In this episode, James Maude sits down with Kevin E. Green, Chief Security Strategist at BeyondTrust, whose 25+ year career stretches from configuring Nokia firewalls in basements to shaping federal research initiatives. Kevin recalls how crashing systems during penetration tests at Ernst & Young was once considered a win - a “capture the flag” moment - and how he crossed paths with future industry leaders like Stuart McClure and George Kurtz, who went on to found Cylance. He shares his pivotal work in mapping NIST 800-53 controls to the MITRE ATT&CK framework, transforming static security catalogs into threat-informed heat maps that show which defenses light up against real-world attacks. Blending technical depth with cultural insight, Kevin also draws unexpected parallels between cybersecurity and hip-hop — from how attacker techniques echo rapper “signatures” to why his alter ego "Kevtorious" and his "Secure Coding by Nature" brand reflect the creativity and pattern recognition needed in both fields.