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340B Insight
340B Health
128 episodes
6 days ago
340B Insight provides members and supporters of 340B Health with timely updates and discussions about the 340B drug pricing program. The podcast helps listeners stay current with and learn more about 340B to help them serve their patients and communities and remain compliant. We publish new episodes twice a month, with news reports and in-depth interviews with leading health care practitioners, policy and legal experts, public policymakers, and our expert staff.
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340B Insight provides members and supporters of 340B Health with timely updates and discussions about the 340B drug pricing program. The podcast helps listeners stay current with and learn more about 340B to help them serve their patients and communities and remain compliant. We publish new episodes twice a month, with news reports and in-depth interviews with leading health care practitioners, policy and legal experts, public policymakers, and our expert staff.
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340B Insight
How To Embed Clinical Pharmacists in Specialty Pharmacy

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The large and growing field of specialty pharmacy means new opportunities and challenges for ensuring patients receive the specialty drugs they need and stay on the therapies that might save their lives. St. Luke’s Health System, based in Boise, Idaho, has approached this mission by embedding clinical pharmacists in the specialty pharmacy space and using 340B as a critical tool. We speak with Josh Weber, senior director of ambulatory retail and specialty pharmacy services at St. Luke’s, to learn more.


How Clinical Pharmacists Can Be a “Value Multiplier”


Embedding clinical pharmacists in their specialty pharmacies improves operations in myriad ways. These pharmacists can take the burden off other providers by meeting with patients to go over their drug regimens, coordinating care, and running split-fill programs to reduce waste. At St. Luke’s, the approach has improved patient adherence to medications and reduced the time between the specialty prescription and the patient having the medication in hand to less than 48 hours – far quicker than the industry standard.


340B Savings Are Key to the Investment


Weber says cost savings from 340B are critical in calculating how they embed resources into specialty pharmacy, noting that improving adherence and retention can increase 340B savings exponentially. These savings then can enable health systems such as St. Luke’s to reinvest in their internal specialty pharmacies, provide more patient cost assistance and unreimbursed care, and ultimately shield themselves from headwinds such as drugmaker contract pharmacy restrictions.


Embedding Pharmacists Depends on Hospital-Specific Factors


For hospitals considering following the lead of St. Luke’s Health System, Weber said a variety of factors such as patient volume, payer mix, and drug spend can call for a variety of service models and investment strategies. Harnessing data such as heat maps showing where patients are and which clinics they visit can inform how best to embed pharmacists and ultimately improve specialty pharmacy care for patients.


Resources:

  1. Drugmakers Release 340B Rebate Pilot Program Descriptions
  2. HRSA 340B Rebate Model Pilot Program
  3. Beacon Rebate Model Resources
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6 days ago
24 minutes

340B Insight
340B Rebates in 2026, Medicare Cuts in 2027?

Between new developments on a rebate pilot program, discussions of possible cuts to Medicare payment for 340B drugs, and new action in states nationwide, this fall has been a jam-packed season for 340B. We sit down with 340B Health President and CEO Maureen Testoni to break down the latest.


Questions Remain About January’s 340B Rebate Pilot 


After the Health Resources & Services Administration (HRSA) released 340B rebate pilot program guidance over the summer, all nine manufacturers of the 10 drugs subject to Medicare price caps applied to HRSA to implement rebates for the drugs starting in January. Testoni says we expect to find out which plans are approved in early November, as drugmakers need to give eight weeks of notice so covered entities can prepare for the change. Testoni says questions remain about the rebate pilot, but information that the drugmakers’ rebate vendor has released so far provides enough detail for hospitals to start preparing for both rebates and price caps.


Potential Medicare Cuts Expected To Target 340B Hospitals


Earlier this year, the Trump administration released an executive order directing the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) to survey hospitals on drug acquisition costs with the goal of using the results to set payment rates for Medicare Part B drugs starting in 2027. Testoni says she is concerned the proposed survey will lead to CMS targeting only 340B drugs for cuts that could bring payment rates down to actual acquisition costs, which would be a steeper cut than what the agency imposed during the first Trump administration.


States Keep Moving on Contract Pharmacy Protections, 340B Mandates


Nearly 20 states have contract pharmacy protection laws in place and a small number of drugmakers have sued to block all these statutes. But Testoni says so far, courts have denied those requests and the laws have stayed in effect despite significant opposition advocacy by drugmakers. An increasing number of states also have enacted laws requiring 340B hospitals to report substantial data on their 340B costs and savings, and some are looking to limit how hospitals can use those savings.


Resources:


  1. Senate Hearing Features Both Bipartisan Support for 340B and Calls for Reforms
  2. Read Our Comments on CBO’s 340B Growth Report
  3. Review Our 340B Rebate Pilot and IRA Resources
  4. Beacon Shares New Details on 340B Rebate Pilot Implementation
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2 weeks ago
23 minutes

340B Insight
Using 340B for Comprehensive Medication Review

About two years ago, Indiana University Health implemented a 340B-funded comprehensive medication review clinic after pharmacy staff noticed patients at their hospitals were not filling maintenance prescriptions due to high cost. Although patient assistance was available, there was not a systematic approach to connecting qualifying patients with the financial help and education they needed, and the health system started the clinic to fill that gap. IU Health Regional Pharmacy Manager of Ambulatory Services Carrie Krekeler discusses how the clinic came about and how it works to improve patient health outcomes.

Improved Drug Affordability and Patient Education

When a prescription goes through IU Health’s comprehensive medication review clinic, pharmacists and other staff will prioritize finding financial assistance for eligible individuals and teaching patients important information about taking their medications. Krekeler says clinic staff will look for discounts for all medications a patient is on and see what a patient’s insurance will cover, if there are copays, and if prior authorization is needed. Staff then will connect patients to coupon cards, manufacturer assistance programs, or 340B-funded assistance through IU Health.

Demonstrated Results

In the two years since the clinic launched, Krekeler says its success has prompted IU Health to reinvest more 340B dollars to expand its reach. Patients with heart failure and diabetes who have gone through the clinic have seen significant improvements in their key health metrics. The clinic helps patients better maintain their health and stay out of the hospital.

Understanding 340B Is Vital for Such Programs

Krekeler says IU Health was able to launch its clinic after adapting a similar initiative that UC Davis had implemented. The key to getting the IU Health clinic off the ground was obtaining buy-in from executives who understood 340B and finance and were able to see the long-term benefit in investing 340B dollars in this area.

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1 month ago
17 minutes

340B Insight
How 340B Helps Put Cancer Screening on Wheels

340B savings do not just enable hospitals to provide more care, they also help hospitals pioneer innovative approaches to bringing care directly to patients. For West Virginia University Medicine, which serves a high population of Medicare and Medicaid patients, one of these 340B-funded innovations came from recognizing a need to increase cancer screening rates. WVU Medicine 340B Enterprise Director Karen Famoso tells us how the system’s mobile cancer screening initiative came about.


The Barriers to Cancer Screening


WVU Medicine identified that some of the biggest social determinants of health for its West Virginia patients were relatively unique to the areas it serves. The rural state has significant travel barriers, small population areas, and high poverty rates, a combination that leaves thousands of patients without easy access to a source of primary care.


Mobile Screenings Look for Breast, Lung Cancers


Today, WVU Medicine operates two types of mobile cancer projects: Bonnie’s Bus and LUCAS. The former launched in 2009 and is a mobile mammography unit named after a patient who died because she had limited access to breast cancer screenings. Her family donated funding to the hospital to support this effort. More than a decade later, WVU Medicine introduced the mobile lung screening program LUCAS. That initiative provides low-dose CT scans to patients meeting the screening guideline using a nearly 70,000-pound tractor trailer.


340B Is Key To Sustaining Mobile Screening Efforts


Famoso says WVU Medicine funds its mobile cancer screening programs through grants and donations, but that is not enough to cover the full cost. That is where 340B savings can help cover the operating loss, which was almost $400,000 last year. Without those 340B savings, the health system’s financial situation would not allow investments in mission-focused programs such as Bonnie’s Bus and LUCAS.


Resources

  1. Lung Cancer Screening on Wheels
  2. HRSA Reviewing Rebate Pilot Proposals and Comments
  3. Second Federal Appeals Court Upholds State Contract Pharmacy Law
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1 month ago
16 minutes

340B Insight
How To Keep Your Teams Educated on 340B

One important but understated aspect of 340B compliance is the importance of training new and existing team members on how the program works. But what does effective training look like? Pooja Shah, the system pharmacy manager of 340B programs at University of North Carolina Health, walks us through the key elements of an effective and engaging 340B education strategy.


Setting a Baseline of 340B Knowledge


UNC Health utilizes a two-pronged strategy to 340B education for its team: didactic and interactive approaches. The didactic approach involves creating three online, standardized learning modules to educate those who are new to 340B or who interact with it indirectly as well as those who are more involved in day-to-day 340B operations. The interactive approach involves an educational and decision-making structure designed to adapt to new 340B developments in real time. 


Compliance Meetings Facilitate Discussion


UNC Health uses entity-level and system-level oversight committees to discuss key 340B compliance issues and relevant metrics. Shah says these meetings offer ways to inform senior leadership about key 340B changes and keep other stakeholders, such as hospital compliance and legal credentialing professionals, in the loop.


340B Education Is Best When Nimble


As hospitals evaluate their 340B education efforts, Shah says it’s important they explore existing resources but also work with stakeholders to discuss what would best serve them when learning about 340B. Hospitals also can change existing governance structures to incorporate 340B discussions. Shah says the ability to stay nimble and be able to quickly identify and assemble key players in the 340B space is key to keeping teams informed amid times of change.


Resources

  1. Read Our Appeals Court Brief Opposing 340B Rebate Schemes
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2 months ago
19 minutes

340B Insight
Everything You Need To Know About Recertification

Mid-August to mid-September marks the time every year when hospitals need to recertify for 340B. Failure to recertify in time could cost a hospital its ability to participate in 340B. 340B Health Senior Manager of Policy and Compliance Rebecca Swartz joins us to walk listeners through the process.


Why recertification is “exceptionally important”


Swartz says annual recertification is not just important, it’s also one of the central tenets of 340B compliance. All hospital types except critical access hospitals need to make sure they’re meeting the minimum disproportionate share percentage threshold. Hospitals also need to affirm that they are non-profit facilities and that all their registered parent and child sites continue to have reimbursable outpatient costs and charges on their Medicare cost reports.


The cost of losing eligibility is high


Failure to recertify 340B eligibility in a timely manner can lock hospitals out of their access to 340B pricing for a year or more. That could deprive a hospital of crucial resources to provide the care and support its patients need.


Tips for a smooth recertification


Swartz says a key to making the process go smoothly is to start early and make sure hospital officials have the necessary worksheets and other documentation before the recertification process begins. Authorized officials and primary contacts should be on the lookout for returned tasks from HRSA and other messages to ensure their recertification process is complete. Taking screenshots of each step of the process also can help identify and fix discrepancies that might arise.


Resources

  1. Annual Hospital Recertification Began August 11
  2. 340B Health Webinars
  3. HRSA Announces 340B Rebate Pilot Program for up to 10 Drugs in 2026 
  4. 340B Health Responds To HRSA 340B Rebate Pilot Program
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3 months ago
21 minutes

340B Insight
340B Support for Long-Acting Injectable Clinics

Patients with behavioral health and substance use disorders often struggle with accessing and staying on the daily oral medications they need to keep their disorders controlled. That’s why SSM Health uses some of its 340B savings to run long-acting injectable (LAI) clinics in the St. Louis area to help these patients achieve better health. We speak with SSM Health Vice President of Pharmacy Financial Operations Michelle Schmitt to learn how much of a role 340B plays in that patient care mission.


LAI clinics offer comprehensive services


SSM Health’s three LAI clinics offer injections for patients with conditions such as bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and alcohol and opioid use disorders that might last as long as three to six months. Clinic visits also give the patients access to a full team of pharmacists, psychiatrists, nurses, therapists, and others to help them navigate treatment and stay healthy.


340B funds are key to patient access


Because behavioral health is often a subsidized service, 340B savings are crucial to the operations of the clinics. They also enable SSM Health to offer financial assistance to patients living up to 400% of the poverty level so they can afford the treatments they need to stay on the road to recovery.


Cuts to 340B would be detrimental to patients


Schmitt says losing access to 340B pricing could mean a 60-70% price increase in the cost of LAI drugs, which would threaten the viability of the clinics and the financial assistance that many patients rely on to access their treatments. She says these clinics are a great example of how 340B is about much more than just price discounts; it provides resources for health systems to meet unique community health needs and serve patients where they are.


Resources

  1. Federal Legislation Would Ban Harmful Drug Company Restrictions on 340B
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3 months ago
20 minutes

340B Insight
How Medicare Price Caps Will Affect Your 340B Hospital

About three years after being signed into law, one provision of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) that is of particular importance to 340B hospitals is about to take effect: Medicare price caps. Jan. 1, 2026, marks the date that the first 10 Medicare drugs will be subject to a maximum fair price (MFP). Meetali Desai, director of pharmacy business services at UMass Memorial Medical Center, joins us to explain how this will affect 340B hospitals and health centers such as hers.


The Good and Bad News for Covered Entities


The good news, Desai says, is that there is potential for the 340B ceiling prices to go down for certain medications. This is because the MFP will become the new “best” price in the formula for calculating 340B prices. However, because the law will cap reimbursement rates to MFP when Medicare patients receive those drugs, 340B hospitals will see their 340B savings amounts go down for those dispenses.


Updated Calculator Can Help Hospitals Gauge Potential Impact


340B Health recently updated its calculator for hospitals to use to estimate the effects of MFP pricing based on the newest data. This new calculator allows users to project what the potential impact from the IRA could be on a hospital, including if drugmakers decide to lower their list prices significantly to avoid IRA inflation penalties. This drop in prices of Medicare drugs could result in 340B hospitals seeing higher ceiling prices and reduced savings.


Reduced Savings Could Impact Patient Care


Desai says Medicare price caps, combined with other financial pressures on hospitals, could mean some rough times ahead for hospitals that care for a large proportion of low-income patients. She encourages 340B teams to share their results from the IRA calculator with their senior leadership and with 340B Health as the hospital community prepares for the impact of these caps.


Resources

  1. Use Our IRA Calculator and Share How Your 340B Savings Will Change
  2. Read Our Analysis: Second Federal Court Affirms HRSA's Authority Over 340B Rebates
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3 months ago
20 minutes

340B Insight
Why Hospitals Need a 340B Purchasing Strategy

Health systems eligible for 340B savings must strike a balance by staying compliant with purchasing rules while also maximizing the amount of eligible savings they can obtain to invest in patient care. Angela Campitelli, the director of the pharmacy 340B program at MetroHealth System in Cleveland, explains how a hospital system such as hers implements a purchasing strategy that achieves that balance.


Following rules for 340B purchases


Disproportionate share (DSH) hospitals, children’s hospitals, and cancer hospitals are subject to a group purchasing organization (GPO) prohibition that bars them from buying covered outpatient drugs on GPO accounts. That requires maintaining a purchasing system that involves buying drugs at wholesale acquisition cost (WAC) for neutral inventory and then replenishing at 340B, WAC, or GPO pricing depending on how the drug is used.


How the cycle can break down


Purchasing drugs outside of the outlined processes could cause violations of the GPO prohibition or other 340B rules, which could lead to sanctions that might include losing eligibility for 340B. That is why health systems such as MetroHealth use staff education, regular auditing, and other safeguards to ensure they are purchasing and replenishing drugs on the correct accounts.


Investments in the strategy


Campitelli recommends 340B hospital teams bring their senior leadership on board to invest in auditing and other resources to ensure a strong purchasing strategy. Such investments will help avoid potential rule violations while ensuring that hospitals are not walking away from 340B savings to which they are entitled.


Resources

  1. 340B Health Appeals Rebate Ruling; Federal Court Agrees to Fast-Track Drugmaker Appeals
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4 months ago
22 minutes

340B Insight
340B Hospitals Notch a Court Win on Rebates

After months of litigation in a federal district court, a key decision recently came out in the legal fight over 340B drug rebates. 340B Health Vice President of Legal and Policy Amanda Nagrotsky updates us on the development.


Court deals a blow to drugmakers


D.C. district court judge Dabney Friedrich ruled on May 15 that manufacturers cannot unilaterally implement rebate models for 340B, agreeing with the Health Resources & Services Administration (HRSA) that the agency effectively has preapproval authority over rebates. In her decision, the judge cited early results from a 340B Health survey finding that shifting 340B to a rebate model would divert significant hospital resources from patient care. Drugmakers have already appealed the ruling.


Some bright spots for drugmakers in this decision


Although the decision largely went against pharmaceutical companies, the judge ruled that the 340B statute does not categorically prohibit rebates, leaving the door open for government approvals of rebates. The judge also agreed with drugmakers’ assertions that HRSA should consider how rebate models could improve 340B compliance and how requiring the sharing of data through rebates could aid in drug company audits of covered entities.


Will HRSA stop all rebates from proceeding?


Despite this decision, the legal fight over rebates isn’t over yet. The judge found that, for three of the manufacturers in these cases, HRSA has yet to issue final decisions with respect to their proposed rebate models. In the case of Sanofi, the judge found that HRSA failed to adequately explain the legal basis for rejecting the drugmaker’s rebate model, and she directed the agency to reconsider its decision and explain whether and how it would violate the 340B statute. HRSA sent rebate guidance to the White House for approval earlier this month, though as of recording this episode it was not known what that guidance would say.


Resources

  1. Read Our Analysis of the First Federal Court Decision on Rebates
  2. 340B Health Continues Court Fight Against Rebates
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5 months ago
20 minutes

340B Insight
How 340B Helps Put Drugs in Patients’ Hands

More than a third of patients released from the hospital never fill their discharge prescriptions, but “meds-to-beds” programs can help improve that statistic. That is the approach Renown Health in Reno, Nev., took with the help of its 340B savings. Renown Vice President of Pharmacy Services Adam Porath joins us to describe how this meds-to-beds program improves patient care.


Hospital readmissions down, patient convenience up


Renown Health’s 340B-funded program offers medication to patients who are being discharged from the hospital, either through bedside delivery, pneumatic tube, or a unique discharge lounge. The effort began as a pilot for Medicaid patients in 2016, and it demonstrated patients in the program were 25% less likely to be readmitted to the hospital once discharged. These health improvements plus the added convenience of medication access for patients convinced the system to expand the program.


340B pricing to patients who cannot pay


Porath says Renown Health refers patients who cannot afford discharge medications to its social services team, which can authorize providing the drugs to those patients at the 340B-discounted rate. The team also will work with patients to see if they qualify for coverage such as Medicaid or other programs to reduce their out-of-pocket costs. Porath said Renown’s meds-to-beds program provides drugs free of charge to about 30 patients per month.


The keys to success


Renown Health’s meds-to-beds program has been a success, with more than 80% of eligible patients participating as of the end of 2024. The hospital expanded the services to all patients and started operating it 24/7 in April 2024. Porath said the keys to success include regular reporting to stakeholders and innovations to handle a large volume of patients discharging at once. Such changes allow all parties to stay in the loop with the development of the program and to celebrate successes as they occur.


Resources

  1. Read Our Analysis of the First Federal Court Decision on Rebates
  2. Second Federal Judge Allows 340B Health, Member Hospitals To Intervene in Rebate Lawsuit
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5 months ago
18 minutes

340B Insight
Answers to Big 340B Rebate Questions Could Come Soon

Big potential changes to how 340B operates plus heightened interest in both new protections and new restrictions for covered entities means there is much to keep track of in the 340B world. 340B Health CEO Maureen Testoni joins us to make sense of recent developments in the nation’s courts and beyond.


Rebates Get Their Day in Court


340B Health, two member hospitals, and the government met drug companies in court in late April to challenge drugmaker attempts to replace 340B discounts with rebates. Testoni says the judge cited potentially devastating consequences to hospitals if rebates proceeded but also had probing questions for the government on how it is working to address drugmaker compliance concerns. The Dept. of Health and Human Services is set to release guidance by early June on the rebate issue, and the court’s decision could come out soon.


The White House Proposes 340B Big Oversight Shift 


A leaked copy of the Trump administration’s latest budget proposal includes a plan to move the Office of Pharmacy Affairs (OPA) from the Health Resources & Services Administration to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services. Testoni says the oversight shift is concerning because of a stark difference between the purpose of 340B and the operations of Medicare and Medicaid. CMS also imposed years of Medicare payment cuts to 340B hospitals that the U.S. Supreme Court eventually overturned.


340B Protections, Mandates Take Center Stage


States continue enacting laws to protect hospital access to 340B pricing, but they also are moving forward with reporting mandates and proposals to define how hospitals should use their savings. Testoni said reporting and use-of-savings mandates lead to misdirected views on the purpose of 340B, which goes far beyond direct patient care and cost assistance. On Capitol Hill, a report from a long-running investigation of 340B recently came out, contributing to the debate over possible new restrictions.


Resources

  1. Federal Government Signals Upcoming Guidance on 340B Rebate Models Amid Legal Challenges
  2. Brief Your Leaders on White House Plans for Major 340B Changes
  3. Nebraska Is 12th State To Enact Contract Pharmacy Protections
  4. Indiana Becomes Fifth State To Mandate 340B Reports From Hospitals
  5. Key Senator Concludes 340B Investigation, Calls for Major Reforms
  6. New 340B Health Research
  7. 340B Impact Profiles
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6 months ago
22 minutes

340B Insight
How To Effectively Onboard a 340B Child Site

The ancillary outpatient sites known as 340B child sites serve as important places for patients to access the drugs and care they need. There are crucial steps involved in effectively onboarding potential child sites as well as ongoing processes involved with maintaining the parent hospital’s partnership with those sites. University Hospitals Cleveland Medical Center  340B Pharmacy Manager Joe Moss joins us to shed light on this process and the potential problems to be on the lookout for.


How is a 340B child site onboarded?


Moss says the first big step to identifying potential sites is to work with a hospital’s finance, revenue, pharmacy, and legal departments to evaluate a site. The team looks at Medicare cost reports and trial balances to ensure they are eligible for 340B. As part of the process, they also use electronic medical record and retail data to identify potential clinic areas based on their patient volumes.


A 340B child site is registered. Now what?

The work is not over once a child site has been registered in 340B. UH has a program it calls the “340B Concierge Program,” which aims to provide comprehensive, ongoing support and guidance to a given child site. The program offers additional education and information in such areas as procurement processes, the appropriate ways to handle drug transfers, and miscellaneous licensing issues.


Onboarding requires relationships and a close eye on compliance


Moss says that hospitals onboarding a child site should establish and maintain close ties with the site to prevent issues with 340B compliance. This can involve being the first line for any pharmacy issues the site staff might be having, holding frank conversations with clinic management when necessary, and inviting staff to observe mock audits so they can learn more about what goes into maintaining 340B compliance.


Resources:

  1. Trump Executive Order Could Revive Medicare 340B Cuts
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6 months ago
14 minutes

340B Insight
How Hospitals Should Prepare for Clean Audits

Health Resources & Services Administration (HRSA) audits of hospitals play a key role in ensuring compliance with 340B rules and regulations. In this episode, Dave Lacknauth, executive director of pharmacy services at Broward Health in Fort. Lauderdale, Fla., joins us to discuss the importance of taking a proactive, comprehensive approach to audit readiness with the goal of ensuring clean audit results. 


Compliance protects 340B access

Being prepared for HRSA audits serves a crucial function that ultimately benefits the patients whom hospitals serve, Lacknauth explains. Maintaining the integrity of 340B means protecting access to 340B savings that hospitals can invest in crucial care for community members that need it. 


Continuous audit readiness

Lacknauth discusses how Broward Health maintains audit readiness by conducting internal audits, bringing in external consultants, and identifying areas of opportunity for improvement. A robust system of internal reviews means that when HRSA comes knocking, Broward Health is already prepared. This was evident after a recent audit of one of the system’s hospitals that resulted in zero recommendations for improvement.


Organization, resources, transparency are key

Preparing for audits requires a health system to invest time and resources, but Lacknauth stresses that these investments pay off. Engaging a comprehensive team from various departments in the audit readiness process allows for a health system to have the appropriate level of responsiveness and transparency during a HRSA audit.


Resources:

  1. Nebraska Is 12th State To Enact Contract Pharmacy Protections
  2. Idaho Becomes Fourth State To Mandate 340B Reports From Hospitals
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7 months ago
17 minutes

340B Insight
How AI Can Strengthen 340B

Artificial intelligence continues to impact industries, including pharmacy and 340B. As hospitals and health systems consider adopting AI, we spoke with Kristin Chupka, the 340B program system director for Dartmouth Health, who shares her experience launching this initiative there and considerations for entities seeking to do the same.  


AI, automation, and how they can support 340B

Chupka distinguishes that AI is like a machine learning and making decisions depending on what it is taught. Automation, although similar to AI, does not make decisions. Both can systematize processes and with the help of guardrails, enable pharmacists to dedicate more time to patient care. 


Opportunities and considerations 

The novelty of AI promises an opportunity for 340B teams that can consider and correct its potential pitfalls. Chupka explains that as with any emerging technology, it is best to start slowly, teach the algorithm, and consistently check in to ensure accuracy and ethical considerations. This approach can limit errors and inspire confidence as time goes on. 


What entities can learn from Dartmouth Health? 

The Dartmouth Health team has explored how AI can help with budgeting, modeling, and auditing, always double-checking work to avoid errors. Because a fully staffed team is required for this, Chupka reassures that AI has not affected staffing. If anything, Chupka says AI is a tool to assist in compliance. 


Check out all of our episodes on the 340B Insight podcast website. You also can stay updated on all 340B Health news and information by visiting our homepage. If you have any questions you’d like us to cover in this podcast, email us at podcast@340bhealth.org. 


Resources:

  1. 340B Health, Member Hospitals Ask Court To Throw Out Drugmaker Rebate Lawsuits)
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7 months ago
21 minutes

340B Insight
How Can 340B Support Clinical Pharmacy Services?

Hospital clinical pharmacies play a key role in ensuring patients are taking medications effectively and supporting other providers who are managing their care. Mark Riggle, the assistant chief pharmacy officer at UC Davis Health, explains how 340B helps make this direct care and ancillary support possible.


Clinical pharmacies are a bridge between providers and patients


Riggle says clinical pharmacy teams serve as drug experts that can help teach patients about potential side effects and how to take their medications properly. But these teams also can take the lead on supporting other providers on refills, prior authorizations, financial assistance, and more. That allows the other providers to focus less on those processes and more on providing medical care to the patients. 


In-house pharmacies can improve patient care and generate revenue


Using an in-house clinical pharmacy has benefits for both patients and the hospital. Riggle notes that keeping prescriptions and pharmacy support in-house can enable hospitals to keep better track of patients’ health and identify if there are issues or questions with certain medications. At the same time, it generates revenue and 340B savings that support even more hospital services and improve patient health outcomes even more.


Ramping up clinical pharmacy services and overcoming barriers can take time


Riggle says expanding clinical pharmacy initiatives at UC Davis Health has come with some challenges. It took years to roll out a refill program for all the providers who needed that support, and achieving success with a prior authorization program involved an evaluation of workflows to improve efficiency. But he noted that hospital pharmacists can present a value proposition to their leaders for how investing in 340B-supported clinical pharmacy services can be worth it to improve care quality and provider satisfaction.


Resources

  1. Federal Judge Allows 340B Health, Member Hospitals To Intervene in Rebate Lawsuits
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8 months ago
21 minutes

340B Insight
What 340B Rebates Will Cost Hospitals

The legal fight over drugmakers’ push to impose 340B rebates is heating up, with five lawsuits pending in a federal court in Washington, D.C. Recently, 340B Health joined with two of its member hospitals in asking the court to intervene as defendants to stop these rebates from taking effect. Genesis HealthCare System based in Ohio is one of those hospitals. Shona Carr, the director of 340B and ambulatory pharmacies at Genesis, breaks down how rebate models would create financial challenges for hospitals that would hamper their patient care initiatives.


Carrying and Compliance Costs


Each drugmaker’s push to impose rebates would incur new drug purchasing and compliance expenses for covered entities. Bristol-Myers Squibb’s rebate policy alone would cost Genesis HealthCare System an additional $400,000 per month in drug spend if it applied to all BMS drugs. If 340B rebate models became the norm for all drugmakers, Carr estimates Genesis would pay an additional $5.2 million per month in upfront costs. Those figures do not include additional hundreds of thousands of dollars in annual staffing expenses to process rebate claims and challenge denials.


Effects on Patient Care and Support


Imposing 340B rebates could force Genesis HealthCare System to scale back or discontinue its patient assistance program, according to Carr. But 340B savings do not just go towards direct patient help with drug costs at the hospital. The financial impact of rebates also could affect other community programs and free services, such as patient transportation, meds-to-beds, health screenings, and a paramedicine program.


Advice for Other Hospitals


Carr says every covered entity that has not already done so should begin reviewing drugmaker rebate policies and working with their 340B third-party administrators to estimate potential costs. She says this involves entities asking bigger questions: Would rebate policies require additional 340B staffing? Does senior leadership understand the potential impact of these changes? What 340B-funded programs might be at risk?


Resources:

  1. 340B Health Seeks To Intervene in All Drugmaker Rebate Lawsuits
  2. Declaration of Shona Carr in Support of Motion To Intervene
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8 months ago
17 minutes

340B Insight
Answering More of Your 340B Questions

In what has become an annual tradition for the podcast, we consulted with 340B Health’s expert staff to answer our listeners’ most pressing 340B questions. As an uncertain and busy year starts for the world of 340B, we want to prepare you by covering your queries about the efforts by drug companies to impose 340B rebates, proposed federal and state legislation on 340B, how Inflation Reduction Act implementation will affect 340B, and more.


340B Rebate Lawsuits Heat Up


So far, five drug companies have sued the Health Resources & Services Administration to challenge HRSA’s rejections of their backend rebate proposals. 340B Health Vice President of Legal and Policy Amanda Nagrotsky notes that a rebate model would harm 340B hospitals through delayed access to 340B savings and potentially denials of legitimate rebate claims based on drugmaker interpretations of 340B rules. We recorded this episode just before 340B Health filed a motion to intervene as a defendant in the Johnson & Johnson (J&J) rebate lawsuit against HRSA.


Lawmakers Eye Ways To Protect or Cut 340B


The new year means a new Congress and the start of new state legislative sessions. 340B Health Senior Vice President of Government Relations Tom O’Donnell notes that members of Congress have floated potential reductions in what the federal government pays for 340B drugs to help fund new spending priorities outside of health care, though it is unclear how seriously they are considering those options. 340B Health Vice President of Legal and Policy Greg Doggett reports that several states are considering new contract pharmacy or payment nondiscrimination protections for 340B hospitals, but others have introduced proposed new mandates for covered entities. 


Price Caps Will Apply to More Medicare Drugs


The list of drugs eligible for Medicare price caps will grow to 25 starting in 2027 under the Inflation Reduction Act, which will have implications for 340B savings on those drugs. 340B Health Research and Policy Analytics Manager Claudia Escue notes that popular weight loss and diabetes drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy have made the price cap list because of how much they cost Medicare. 340B Health is tracking how these price caps might lower 340B savings and have submitted letters to Medicare officials to represent other hospital concerns about the implementation of the IRA.


Resources:

  1. 340B Health Files Motion To Intervene in J&J Rebate Lawsuit
  2. Option To Cut Commercial Pay Rates for 340B Drugs Is on Draft Congressional Budget “Menu”
  3. Medicare Expands List of Drugs Subject to Price Caps, Decreased 340B Savings
  4. 340B Coalition Winter Conference Registration 
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9 months ago
16 minutes

340B Insight
What’s in the First State 340B Report in the Nation?

A Minnesota requirement for covered entities to submit data on the costs they pay and the payments they receive for 340B drugs yielded its first annual report this past November. Today’s guest, Minnesota Hospital Association Director of State Government Relations Danny Ackert, tells us why the report’s findings don’t tell the whole story.


The Context for the Dollars 

The first Minnesota report concluded that covered entities received a net of $630 million in payments for 340B drugs in 2023 and paid $120 million to contract pharmacies and third-party administrators. But Ackert notes the figures do not account for what entities would have paid for drugs at non-340B prices, nor what pharmacy administrative costs they would have had if they did not have access to 340B.


Where the Money Goes

Ackert notes that the report does not spell out how hospitals in the state use their 340B savings to stretch resources and provide more care and support to patients. He notes that Minnesota hospitals spend about $15 billion a year providing care. They also face an annual shortfall of about $1.8 billion from Medicare and Medicaid underpayments, a figure that does not even account for charity care, bad debt, and other unreimbursed hospital spending. Some rural hospitals in the state rely on 340B savings just to stay open.


What Other States Can Learn

Although submitting data for the report and countering misconceptions about its findings have been challenging for Minnesota hospitals, Ackert also notes that it has given them an opportunity to educate policymakers about 340B. By learning more about the report and following the state’s example, hospitals in other states considering reporting mandates can put themselves in a position to explain to lawmakers why 340B is so vital.


Resources:

  1. Minnesota 340B Covered Entity Report
  2. Episode 89: How New 340B Reporting Requirements Are Affecting Hospitals (February 2024)
  3. 340B Medicare Hospital Pay Cuts Floated as an Option for Congress
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9 months ago
24 minutes

340B Insight
The Fight Over Rebates Heats Up

Earlier this year, the Health Resources & Services Administration took a strong stance against drug giant Johnson & Johnson’s plan for a proposed 340B rebate model, but the fight over rebates is far from over. 340B Health President and CEO Maureen Testoni joins us to discuss how the company is taking the issue to federal court and how they are not the only drugmaker doing so.


J&J Sues HRSA Over Rebates


J&J is arguing in court that HRSA lacks the authority to block a 340B rebate model. Such a model would allow individual drug companies effectively to impose their own rules on 340B drug purchases. These rules would curtail the number of drugs a company would offer a 340B discount on and reduce the number of patients that would be deemed 340B-eligible.


Other Drugmakers Pushing Rebates


Bristol Myers Squibb and Eli Lilly also sued HRSA, claiming the agency does not have the authority to stop a rebate model. Sanofi has not yet filed suit but is saying it will impose its rebate scheme in early January. The Sanofi model raises significant concerns not just because of the imminent effective date but because it would impose far more stringent restrictions on 340B eligibility than HRSA ever has.


State Contract Pharmacy Laws Rack Up More Wins


In another 340B issue before the federal courts, state contract pharmacy protections continue obtaining key litigation wins. Several district courts and one appeals court have upheld state laws designed to protect covered entity access to 340B pricing through community and specialty contract pharmacies.


Resources:


  1. Brief Your Leadership on Drugmaker Rebate Schemes
  2. The Wall Street Journal: “The Economic Imperative of Protecting 340B”
  3. Register for the 340B Coalition Winter Conference
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11 months ago
21 minutes

340B Insight
340B Insight provides members and supporters of 340B Health with timely updates and discussions about the 340B drug pricing program. The podcast helps listeners stay current with and learn more about 340B to help them serve their patients and communities and remain compliant. We publish new episodes twice a month, with news reports and in-depth interviews with leading health care practitioners, policy and legal experts, public policymakers, and our expert staff.