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2Tokens Podcast

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93 episodes

1 week ago

In this special episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry is joined by Coen ter Wal (Association for Financial Markets in Europe – AFME) and Meindert Jansberg (Catena / Energy Blocks) for a live discussion from Amsterdam, where the Dutch National Bank has convened experts to explore one of the hottest topics in finance: tokenization. This episode explores how distributed ledger technology (DLT) is transforming capital markets, from sovereign bond issuance to renewable energy financing, ...

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In this special episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry is joined by Coen ter Wal (Association for Financial Markets in Europe – AFME) and Meindert Jansberg (Catena / Energy Blocks) for a live discussion from Amsterdam, where the Dutch National Bank has convened experts to explore one of the hottest topics in finance: tokenization. This episode explores how distributed ledger technology (DLT) is transforming capital markets, from sovereign bond issuance to renewable energy financing, ...

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Episodes (20/93)

2Tokens Podcast

Episode 115: Europe’s Tokenized Future: Finance, Energy, and Everything In Between

In this special episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry is joined by Coen ter Wal (Association for Financial Markets in Europe – AFME) and Meindert Jansberg (Catena / Energy Blocks) for a live discussion from Amsterdam, where the Dutch National Bank has convened experts to explore one of the hottest topics in finance: tokenization. This episode explores how distributed ledger technology (DLT) is transforming capital markets, from sovereign bond issuance to renewable energy financing, ...

1 week ago

32 minutes

2Tokens Podcast

Episode 114: Fractal Energy on Battery Pooling and Grid Optimization

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, Alex Bausch and Jos Röling, captain of the Power of the Many working group, welcome Fabien Bergier, CEO and co-founder of Fractal Energy, for a deep dive into the future of smart energy management and household flexibility. Fabien shares how Fractal Energy is transforming the way households use and share energy through intelligent battery management, AI-driven optimization, and secure cloud-based pooling. He explains how their Energy Management System ...

3 weeks ago

23 minutes

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Episode 113: Smart Grids, Smarter Energy: EUTO’s Vision for the Future

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jos Röling welcomes Vincent van Kalkeren and Ali Karademir from EUTO Energy to explore how software-defined solutions are transforming the way we manage electricity grids. EUTO Energy is addressing one of today’s most urgent challenges in the energy transition: net congestion. As electrification accelerates and renewable energy sources grow, traditional, hardware-centric systems are no longer sufficient to manage the increasingly dynamic and decent...

1 month ago

26 minutes

2Tokens Podcast

Episode 112: Conference: MiCAR Symposium - 1 Year Down the Road

The token economy is evolving fast. 🌍 At the 2Tokens MiCAR Symposium – One Year Down the Road, we reflected on MiCAR’s first year, uncovered real lessons learned and looked ahead at the future of digital assets in Europe. In this episode, we capture the voices of participants who shared their vision, challenges and insights on where the token economy is heading. The questions we asked them: - How can tokenization help businesses operate more efficiently? - What key trends will drive ...

2 months ago

16 minutes

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Episode 111: Dozens of Use Cases, Three Cohorts, One Unique European Blockchain Sandbox

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Olivier Rikken, Head of Research at the 2Tokens Foundation, is joined by Johannes Wirtz, Partner at Bird & Bird Frankfurt and specialist in financial regulation, and Mauro Halve, Head of Compliance at Amdax, for an in-depth discussion on the EU Blockchain Sandbox. Over the past three years and three cohorts, this unique European initiative has brought together regulators and innovators to explore real-world blockchain use cases under strict con...

2 months ago

21 minutes

2Tokens Podcast

Episode 110: Housing 2.0: Co-Living in the Token Economy

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, Alex Bausch is joined by Pascal de Keyser, founder of Portio, and Jonny Fry, founder of Team Blockchain, to delve into the future of real estate through the lens of blockchain, tokenization, and co-living. With rising urban loneliness and the lack of accessible housing, Pascal introduces co-living as a community-centric, flexible alternative to traditional rentals. From entrepreneurs to seniors, co-living is gaining traction across Europe and beyond, of...

3 months ago

23 minutes

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Episode 109: The Next Wave of Tokenization in Finance

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, Karsten Bruinsma, Jonny Fry, and Mathieu Cottin explore the evolving landscape of tokenization one year after the introduction of MiCAR, the EU’s Markets in Crypto-Assets Regulation. With a major symposium taking place at Rabobank in Utrecht, they reflect on the progress made so far and the challenges still ahead. A key theme in the discussion is the growing interest in tokenizing money market funds. The speakers examine why these instruments are becomi...

4 months ago

25 minutes

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Episode 108: Tokenizing Trust: ANGU’s Gold-Backed Solution for Financial Inclusion

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry and chair of 2Tokens Alex Bausch speak with payments expert Richard Anderson about ANGU, a gold-backed stablecoin aiming to reshape how value is stored and transferred in Sub-Saharan Africa. Designed to replace unstable and informal USD reserves with a secure, inflation-resistant digital token, ANGU enables individuals and small businesses to make payments, store savings, and send remittances—without needing a bank account. Built to work...

4 months ago

19 minutes

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Episode 107: The Next Wave of Digital Commerce - Programmable Payments and Stablecoins

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, Jonny, Erich, and Alex take a comprehensive look at the rapidly evolving landscape of digital assets, tokenization, and fintech innovation. They reflect on their recent projects, including the work of 2Tokens in energy, finance, and art, and share insights into how tokenization is unlocking new levels of liquidity, efficiency, and transparency across various industries. The hosts discuss the transformative potential of programmable payments, stablecoins...

5 months ago

30 minutes

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Episode 106: One Token at a Time: Investing in Renewable Energy

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Alex Bausch sits down with Meindert Jansberg, co-founder of EnergyBlocks (formerly Assetblocks), to explore how blockchain technology is being used to open up clean energy investments to a broader audience. EnergyBlocks offers tokenized green bonds that provide a 6.5% annual return, with a fully digital and automated onboarding, investment, and reporting process. Though powered by blockchain, the platform is designed for simplicity—making it easy f...

6 months ago

15 minutes

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Episode 105: Crypto’s Legal Earthquake - Inside the New Rules of Crypto

In this episode host Jonny Fry sits down with Elsa Madrolle, General Manager for Europe, the Middle East, and Africa at VerifyVASP, to explore the complex and rapidly evolving world of crypto regulation and digital assets. Elsa shares her journey from a traditional finance background—most notably at CME Group—to becoming a leader in blockchain compliance. Their conversation delves into the significance of the FATF Travel Rule and how VerifyVASP supports virtual asset service providers in secu...

6 months ago

15 minutes

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Episode 104: From Boring Bonds to Blockchain: Finance Gets an Upgrade

In this episode, Jonny Fry and Alex Bausch sit down with Martijn Siebrand from ABN AMRO to unpack what’s really happening in the world of blockchain, tokenization, and digital assets. Martijn shares his takeaways and gives us a behind-the-scenes look at how one of Europe’s biggest banks is exploring the future of finance. The conversation covers everything from tokenizing bonds and driving green finance projects to what it could mean to digitize loan portfolios. It’s a fascinating look at how...

7 months ago

21 minutes

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Episode 103: Regulatory Winds of Change in Tokenization

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry from TeamBlockchain explores the cutting-edge world of asset tokenization with two industry experts: Philipp Pieper from Swarm and Erich Schnoeckel from 2Tokens. The conversation revolves around the evolution of tokenization from the "wild west" of 2016-2017 to today's emerging regulatory landscape. Philipp shares insights into Swarm's innovative approach to tokenizing real-world assets, including a gold token offering in partnership with...

7 months ago

24 minutes

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Episode 102: The Future of Tokenization with Alex Bausch & Jonny Fry

In this episode, Jonny Fry (TeamBlockchain) sits down with Alex Bausch (2Tokens) to explore the real-world adoption of tokenization and blockchain technology. They discuss how 2Tokens has supported industries like finance, energy, and logistics in leveraging digital assets to solve funding challenges—without the hype of early ICOs. From the Port of Rotterdam’s tokenized bills of lading to regulatory sandboxes and crowdfunding innovations, Alex and Jonny break down how blockchain is transformi...

8 months ago

13 minutes

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Episode 101: Why Blockchain is the Missing Link in Supply Chains

In this episode of the 2Tokens podcast, we dive into the commercial applications of blockchain technology, particularly in the supply chain industry. We're joined by Aljosja from Doc Lab and Juliun from Stability Protocol. The conversation is led by Jonny Fry, CEO of TeamBlockchain. Together they discuss how blockchain can enable the digital transfer of ownership for critical trade documents like bills of lading, inventory receipts, and certificates of origin. We explore the unique prop...

8 months ago

24 minutes

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Celebrating 100 Episodes: Insights from the 2Tokens Community - This is What We Learned

We’ve made it to 100 episodes, and what better way to celebrate than with an in-depth discussion on the future of blockchain and tokenization? In this special episode of the 2Tokens podcast, we bring together industry experts to explore key trends shaping the space. We've asked the experts in our community the following questions: 👉 How are business going to use blockchain to improve their operations? 👉 What trends do you think will influence the adoption of tokenization in 2025? ...

8 months ago

17 minutes

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Episode 99: Blockchain Meets Sustainability: SRECs, GOs, and Beyond

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, our host Erich Schnoeckel sits down with industry leaders Jan Dijkstra from Greenivity and Robert van Mölken of ExoBlock to discuss the potential of tokenizing renewable energy certificates (RECs). Together, they explore how blockchain and decentralized technology can bring new levels of transparency, trust, and efficiency to the renewable energy market while empowering global communities. Key topics covered include: 🌍 What are RECs, SRECs, and GOs? – L...

11 months ago

21 minutes

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Episode 98: Optimizing Energy: Connecting to Real-Time Markets & Changing Behaviors

This episode of the 2Tokens podcast features an in-depth discussion on the energy sector and the role of new platforms and technologies. The speakers include Jos Roling, captain of the 2Tokens Energy working group, Kennard Brandenburgh, CCO of Distro Energy, and Edgar Kampers, CEO of Hypha Energy, which specializes in the governance of energy hubs and communities. This week's discussion covers topics such as the approach to optimizing energy usage by connecting to real-time markets and...

1 year ago

24 minutes

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Episode 97: Web3 Without the Jargon: Making Blockchain Accessible for All

This episode of the 2Tokens podcast features a discussion on using web3 and blockchain technology to drive customer engagement and build unique communities. The participants include Wouter Kloosterman, founder and CEO of Authic Labs, and Jasper Verbeet, co-founder and CTO of Byont Labs. The conversation covers a range of topics, including Authic Labs' new loyalty application that incorporates web3 elements, the challenges of onboarding users to web3, and examples of successful projects that l...

1 year ago

30 minutes

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Episode 96: Bridging the Gap: Tax, Law, and the Future of Tokenization in Web3

The podcast episode delves into the empowering communities working group facilitated by 2Tokens over the past year, with a focus on the tax and legal aspects of tokenization and crypto. This week's participants include Erich Schnoeckel, Arie van den Bergen, a lawyer at Finnic Legal who specializes in helping FinTech companies with legal and regulatory advice, including blockchain and crypto, and Dennis Post, a tax partner at EY responsible for web3-related topics in the EMEA region, who has b...

1 year ago

38 minutes