2 Complicated 4 History is a show that examines the “deleted scenes” of history. In each episode, co-hosts Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by a different guest bringing a fresh perspective to the history you thought you knew.
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2 Complicated 4 History is a show that examines the “deleted scenes” of history. In each episode, co-hosts Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by a different guest bringing a fresh perspective to the history you thought you knew.
Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by historian Dr. Julia Gaffield to uncover the overlooked legacy of Jean-Jacques Dessalines, a central—but often forgotten—figure of the Haitian Revolution. While many histories of Haitian independence sideline or erase him, Dr. Gaffield restores Dessalines to his rightful place as a revolutionary leader whose impact reshaped the Atlantic world.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Introductions
1:29 - Who is Jean Jacques Dessalines
6:01 - His experience as an enslaved person
8:59 - Differences in US slave societies vs French colonies
10:42 - Saint-Domingue
12:38 - Defining Creole
14:16 - The complexities of the Haitian Revolutions’s demographics
15:04 - From slave to freeman
15:54 - The 7 Years War and the Haitian Revolution
17:52 - Racism as a cultural norm vs codification
21:00 - What sets off the revolution?
23:35 - How does the French revolution play a role?
27:12 - Jean Baptiste Charbonneau & Vincent Ogé
32:45 - Dessalines and Louverture
37:39 - Betrayal and Legacy
41:09 - A double standard: Dessalines’ barbaric reputation
49:30 - The path to independence: The end of slavery in Haiti
54:44 - The significance of the book title
EPISODE LINKS:
Dr. Julia Gaffield - https://juliagaffield.com/
I Have Avenged America: Jean-Jacques Dessalines and Haiti’s Fight for Freedom - https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300255478/i-have-avenged-america/
Haitian Revolution - https://scholar.library.miami.edu/slaves/san_domingo_revolution/revolution.html
Toussaint Louverture - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Toussaint-Louverture
Jean-Jacques Dessalines - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jean-Jacques-Dessalines
French Revolution - https://www.britannica.com/event/French-Revolution
MLK - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Martin-Luther-King-Jr
Malcolm X - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Malcolm-X
Saint-Domingue - https://www.britannica.com/place/Haiti/Early-period#ref515792
Hispaniola - https://www.britannica.com/place/Hispaniola
Jean-Baptiste Chavannes - https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Appletons%27_Cyclop%C3%A6dia_of_American_Biography/Chavannes,_Jean_Baptiste
Vincent Oge - https://www.blackpast.org/global-african-history/oge-vincent-1755-1791/
Leclerc Expedition - https://islandluminous.fiu.edu/part02-slide09.html
Cover Image - https://spencerart.ku.edu/art/collections-online/object/58502
Ulrick Jean-Pierre - https://ulrickjeanpierre.com/
“I Have Avenged America” Speech - https://haitidoi.com/2013/08/02/i-have-avenged-america/
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2 Complicated 4 History
2 Complicated 4 History is a show that examines the “deleted scenes” of history. In each episode, co-hosts Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by a different guest bringing a fresh perspective to the history you thought you knew.