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Why Distance Learning?
Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring
71 episodes
1 week ago
The Why Distance Learning? Podcast explores the transformative power of live virtual learning and its role in shaping the future of education. Hosted by three seasoned distance learning experts, this podcast delivers insights, promising practices, and inspiration for educators, content providers, and education leaders integrating live virtual experiences into teaching and learning. Each episode features interviews with content creators, industry professionals, field experts, and innovative educators who are driving engagement, equity, and innovation through distance learning. By challenging common perceptions and uncovering the realities of live virtual education, Why Distance Learning highlights its true impact and explores how it continues to evolve in an ever-changing educational landscape. Hosted by Seth Fleischauer of Banyan Global Learning and Allyson Mitchell and Tami Moehring of the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration.
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The Why Distance Learning? Podcast explores the transformative power of live virtual learning and its role in shaping the future of education. Hosted by three seasoned distance learning experts, this podcast delivers insights, promising practices, and inspiration for educators, content providers, and education leaders integrating live virtual experiences into teaching and learning. Each episode features interviews with content creators, industry professionals, field experts, and innovative educators who are driving engagement, equity, and innovation through distance learning. By challenging common perceptions and uncovering the realities of live virtual education, Why Distance Learning highlights its true impact and explores how it continues to evolve in an ever-changing educational landscape. Hosted by Seth Fleischauer of Banyan Global Learning and Allyson Mitchell and Tami Moehring of the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration.
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Why Distance Learning?
#68 The Future of Distance Learning: USDLA’s Pat Cassella on AI, Hybrid Teaching, and Access for All

In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell and Tami Moehring welcome Pat Cassella—Executive Director of the United States Distance Learning Association (USDLA), VP of Worldwide Sales at VDO360, and founder of ETC Video. Pat traces the evolution of video technology in education, healthcare, government, and corporate training—and offers bold predictions about what’s next.

Why This Matters

Educators are flooded with tools but lack training, workflows, and staffing to use them well—especially in hybrid settings where engaging in-person and remote learners simultaneously feels impossible. K-12 systems in particular face understaffing, turnover, and abandoned tech.

How to Make It Work

Pat argues for purpose-built technology aligned to teacher workflows and deliberate pedagogy for virtual/hybrid environments. The big shift: infrastructure is now easy—the work is pedagogical. He also highlights flexible learning models (including micro-credentialing) that expand choice for learners across K-12, higher ed, and the workforce.

“You don’t want technology for the sake of technology. It has to have a purpose—and fit the teacher’s workflow.”
 “Without distance learning, you’re limiting student choices. Flexibility is what today’s learners demand.”

Put It Into Practice

  1. Audit for Purpose & Fit: Map your most-used teaching routines. Keep/choose tools that reduce steps in those routines and increase engagement for both in-person and remote learners.
  2. Train for Hybrid: Treat hybrid as its own modality. Build camera/mic placement, interaction norms, and roles (e.g., a student facilitator) into lesson plans.
  3. Offer Flexible Paths: Pilot a micro-credential or short, skills-focused module to give students on-ramps that match their time, goals, and circumstances.

Episode Links

  • United States Distance Learning Association (USDLA) — mission, programs, and community
  • National Distance Learning Week (NDLW) — first full week of November; explore events and sessions mentioned in the episode
  • VDO360 — video collaboration cameras and solutions
  • ETC Video — educational technology consulting
  • CILC Podcast Hub — past episodes, resources, and community: cilc.org/podcast

Host Links

  1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
  2. Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.
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1 week ago
33 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#67 What Football Teaches Us About Character, Leadership, and Virtual Learning with Jerry Csaki

Many people think of distance learning as impersonal—a screen separating students from real connection. But at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, it’s doing the exact opposite. It’s bringing students face-to-face with legends, life lessons, and the values that make great teams—and great people.

In this episode, Jerry Csaki, Senior Director of Youth, Education, and Leadership at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, shares how he’s turned virtual learning into a front-row seat to greatness. Through the award-winning Heart of a Hall of Famer series, students across nearly every state connect live with NFL icons to talk about character, integrity, and perseverance. What began as a local field trip program has become a global platform for teaching leadership and belonging.

Jerry reveals how distance learning expands access to stories that inspire—stories that remind students that greatness isn’t about fame or stats, but about resilience, teamwork, and heart.

Listeners will learn:

  • How the Pro Football Hall of Fame uses live virtual programs to teach life values through sports.
  • Why distance learning is about access—to people, perspectives, and purpose.
  • How technology transformed the Hall of Fame’s programs from local field trips to global connections.
  • What makes stories of perseverance and leadership so powerful when shared directly by the legends who lived them.

If you believe distance learning can only go so far, Jerry Csaki’s story will expand your definition of what’s possible when technology connects classrooms to character.

Episode Links

  • Pro Football Hall of Fame – Youth & Education Programs

  • Heart of a Hall of Famer Series – Connected by Extreme Networks

Host Links

  • Explore virtual learning resources and programs at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell
  • Discover global learning experiences at Banyan Global Learning with Seth Fleischauer

Want to help us reshape distance learning?
Share this episode with a colleague, reflect on your own “why,” and remember: the power of distance learning lies in the connections it creates—between students, stories, and the human spirit.

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3 weeks ago
38 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#66 Kids Use Podcasting and Friendship to Thrive Online (with Homeschoolers Maddie and Ella)

Many adults assume that kids only tolerate online learning—that it’s isolating, transactional, and never as “real” as learning in person. But what if students themselves told a different story? What if distance learning could be creative, inspiring, and a place to make authentic friendships?

In this episode, we meet Maddie (11) and Ella (13), co-hosts of The Recess Rundown, a podcast created entirely by and for self-directed learners. What started as homeschooling and a love of writing, journaling, blogging, and gaming has grown into a vibrant collaboration fueled by Recess.gg, the online community where they found not only peers but also mentors and their closest friends. Through their podcast, they amplify the projects of other young creators, from coders and artists to bloggers and novelists—and in the process, they discover their own voice.

Maddie and Ella remind us that kids don’t just consume digital culture—they shape it. They share what they’ve learned about podcasting, what inspires them from fellow students, and how distance learning has built their confidence and community.

Listeners will learn:

  • How self-directed learners find their passions through creative outlets like journaling, podcasting, and blogging.
  • Why online friendships can be just as authentic—and even more motivating—than in-person ones.
  • How communities like Recess.gg create a “safe bubble” that grows confidence, connection, and curiosity.
  • Why peer inspiration is one of the most powerful forces in education—and how it drives new projects and ambitions.
  • What it looks like when kids, not adults, set the agenda for their learning.

If you’re a parent, educator, or school leader wondering whether online learning can truly spark joy, curiosity, and belonging, this episode will challenge your assumptions—and let Maddie and Ella show you what’s possible when kids lead.

Episode Links

  • The Recess Rundown Podcast – Student-created show about self-directed learning
  • Recess.gg – Where young learners connect, collaborate, and create
  • Interview with Recess.gg founder Ben Somers - Why Distance Learning #65: Turning Virtual Learning into a Multiplayer Experience

Host Links

  • Explore virtual learning resources and programs at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell
  • Discover global learning experiences at Banyan Global Learning with Seth Fleischauer
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1 month ago
38 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
(Rewind) #41 BOLD Moves: How Virtual Schools Are Redefining Education in Florida with Mandy Perry

In this episode of the Why Distance Learning? Podcast, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring revisit one of their most popular episodes as they welcome Mandy Perry, a virtual school principal and president of the Blended and Online Learning Discovery (BOLD) of Florida Executive Board. Mandy shares her timeless journey in virtual education, her leadership role in BOLD, and how virtual schools in Florida are evolving to meet the needs of students across the state.

Key topics discussed include:

  • The Birth of BOLD: Mandy shares the origins of BOLD, an organization created to support virtual school leaders in Florida. She explains how it has grown to become a vital resource for 67 public virtual school districts, offering collaboration, professional development, and legislative advocacy.
  • Virtual Schools vs. State Virtual Schools: Mandy explains the differences between district and state virtual schools in Florida, emphasizing how they work together to provide a wide range of courses to students. She highlights the flexibility and choice that virtual schools offer, particularly in subjects like foreign languages and specialized courses.
  • Building Relationships in a Virtual Environment: Mandy discusses the importance of relationship-building not just between students and teachers, but also among administrators and educators. She shares how BOLD facilitates these connections to enhance the virtual learning experience.
  • Challenges and Misconceptions of Online Learning: Mandy addresses common misconceptions about online learning, including the differences between emergency remote learning during the pandemic and quality online education. She also talks about the traits that make a good online learner and how virtual schools can adapt to meet diverse student needs.
  • Innovations in Virtual Education: Mandy highlights some of the innovations at Pinellas Virtual School, such as separating student and parent orientations to better tailor the learning experience and improve student success.

This episode offers valuable insights into the evolving world of virtual education, the importance of collaboration among educators, and how virtual schools can provide students with unique opportunities and skills for the future.

For more insights and practical advice, tune into this episode and explore the work of BOLD and Pinellas Virtual School. Links to their resources are available in the show notes.

About today’s guest: Mandy Perry is the principal of Pinellas Virtual School and president of the Blended and Online Learning Discovery (BOLD) of Florida Executive Board. She is a leader in virtual education advocacy at both the state and national levels, dedicated to improving and expanding virtual learning opportunities for students.

Episode Links:

  • Blended and Online Learning Discovery (BOLD) of Florida
  • Pinellas Virtual School

Host Links:

  1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
  2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning leverages technology to enhance cultural competence and educational outcomes for teachers and students alike.
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1 month ago
39 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#65 Turning Virtual Learning into a Multiplayer Experience with Ben Somers

Many educators associate virtual learning with isolation, disengagement, and students passively staring at screens. But what if the opposite were possible? What if distance learning could be thrilling, social, even addictive—in all the right ways?

In this episode, we meet Ben Somers, founder and CEO of Recess.gg, an online platform transforming virtual education into an e-sports-style, team-based experience where students show up because they want to. With live academic games, mentorship, and a thriving virtual economy, Recess builds belonging, identity, and motivation into every challenge. But behind the fun is a serious vision: empowering self-directed learners with the tools—and freedom—they need to thrive.

Ben draws from deep experience scaling Synthesis (born from Elon Musk’s experimental school) and brings a philosophy rooted in Papert, Dewey, and Montessori to his product design. He argues that engagement is not just a tactic, but an ecosystem built on freedom, community, and purpose.

Listeners will learn:

  • Why removing humans from digital learning can kill engagement—and how to bring community back.
  • How Recess balances spontaneity and structure to guide students toward long-term goals.
  • What a “job board for kids” looks like—and how it helps them become creators, not consumers.
  • How AI is being used not to replace human reflection, but to support deeper reflection and mentorship.
  • What it means to design an environment where math is learned like French: fluently, through immersive experience.

If you’re a virtual school leader, edtech entrepreneur, homeschool parent, or anyone wondering how to make distance learning work better, this episode will challenge your assumptions and show what’s possible when engagement is student-driven and purpose-aligned.

Episode Links
- Recess.gg – Where student agency meets academic gameplay
- Seymour Papert – The educational theorist Ben credits as a major influence
- Kerbal Space Program – The game teaching kids rocket science and orbital mechanics
- Oxford Kids Conference – Where Recess students presented their podcast

Host Links
- Explore virtual learning resources and programs at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell
- Discover global learning experiences at Banyan Global Learning with Seth Fleischauer


Want to help us reshape distance learning?
Share this episode with a colleague, reflect on your own “why” for virtual education, and remember: the future of learning might look a lot more like Recess than a lecture.

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2 months ago
40 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#64 Teaching Kindergarten Online? Yes, It Works—with Joy, Props, & Puppets (and Nancy Grim!)

Many educators (and parents) believe that teaching kindergarten online is impossible. Young children are assumed to lack the attention span, tech skills, or maturity to thrive in a virtual setting. During the pandemic, even seasoned teachers struggled to keep their youngest students engaged.


In this episode, Nancy Grim, a veteran early childhood educator from Tucson Unified Virtual Academy, brings a burst of energy and creativity to bust that myth wide open. With a background in theater and a deep understanding of child development, Nancy shares how she transforms her virtual classroom into a joyful, engaging, and student-centered space for kindergartners and second graders. From puppets and props to emoji-based emotional check-ins and student-led tech tutorials, Nancy shows how virtual learning can be more than effective—it can be magical.

Listeners will learn:

  • Why puppets, costumes, and unexpected props boost engagement and emotional connection for young learners.
  • How to build tech independence and classroom culture—even in kindergarten.
  • How second graders can lead peer learning and contribute to a thriving virtual community.
  • How embracing creativity and play helps students make academic and cultural connections from home.

If you’re an early elementary teacher, school leader, or curriculum designer wondering how to support younger learners online, Nancy’s practical strategies will spark ideas and shift your thinking. Share this episode with a colleague, try one new engagement prop in your next session, and remember: joy is a tool, not a luxury, in digital classrooms.

Episode Links

  • Tucson Unified Virtual Academy

Host Links

  • Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
  • Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.
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2 months ago
35 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#63 The Human Side of Systems Change (Part 2) with Dr. Tovah Sheldon

Too often, educational change is approached with a top-down, impersonal strategy—especially in virtual settings. Leaders are handed new tools, frameworks, and mandates but given little space for reflection, values alignment, or the flexibility needed to make change stick. The result? Burnout, survival mode, and disjointed systems that don’t serve students or educators.

In this episode, Dr. Tovah Sheldon—school design strategist at Michigan Virtual and leader of the Leadership Coaching for Innovation initiative—unpacks how true transformation begins with the adults in the system. With warmth, insight, and a deep coaching mindset, she guides us through what it really means to center leadership development around the human experience. From redefining change through “rugged flexibility” and allostasis, to bridging the gap between personal and organizational values, Dr. Sheldon makes the case for slower, deeper, more reflective innovation. She shares stories of golden moments, challenges us to pluralize transformation, and gives us a clear pathway toward leading with clarity, purpose, and empathy.

If you’re leading innovation—especially in virtual or hybrid environments—listen in for insight on:

  • Why “rigid” systems fail in dynamic environments, and how to lead with adaptive stability.
  • How to help leaders and teams surface their core values and use them to drive sustainable change.
  • The habits and actions that define innovators—and how they play out differently in virtual spaces.
  • Why going deep before wide is essential for lasting, scalable impact.
  • How “small-i” innovations build momentum toward big transformation.

Episode Links:

  • Leadership Coaching for Innovation at Michigan Virtual
  • Brad Stulberg on Rugged Flexibility and Allostasis
  • Henry Ford Innovation Hub – Phil Grumm’s Work

Additional People and Concepts to Link:

  1. Brad Stulberg
    Referenced for the concepts of allostasis and rugged flexibility.
    🔗 https://www.bradstulberg.com
  2. Phil Grumm and Henry Ford Learning Institute / Innovation Hub
    Credited as the origin of the Habits and Actions of Innovators framework.
    🔗 https://inhub.thehenryford.org/
  3. Dr. Jay Marks
    Mentioned for his insight: “Lots of little moments lead to momentum.”
    🔗 https://www.nuatc.org/about-us/mentors/jay-b-marks-ph-d/
  4. Ellen Langer
    Referenced for her ideas on mindfulness, scientific uncertainty, and contextual truth.
    🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Langer
  5. 3P Learning (Project-, Problem-, and Place-based Learning)
    Discussed in relation to innovation in virtual programs.
    🔗 Resource from Michigan.Gov
  6. Cynthia Coburn
    Cited for the depth before breadth concept in educational change.
    🔗 https://sesp.northwestern.edu/people/faculty/cynthia-coburn.html 

Host Links:

  1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
  2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.
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3 months ago
45 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#62 The Human Side of Systems Change (Part 1) with Dr. Chris Harrington

Too often, distance learning gets dismissed as fragmented or disjointed, seen as a patchwork of tech tools rather than a cohesive educational system. Teachers feel pulled in too many directions, and programs struggle to sustain impact beyond the novelty of going virtual.


In this episode, Dr. Chris Harrington - leader of the EmpowerEd Research Institute, AccredVEd, and Digital Learning Works - shares how real transformation happens when virtual education is approached as a system. From curriculum to leadership to parent engagement, Chris lays out what it means to create a student-centered, coherent virtual learning ecosystem. He introduces specialized accreditation processes, discusses how to build systems around people - not tech - and shares inspiring stories from the field, including how one virtual program helped a struggling student graduate against the odds.

If you’re building - or rebuilding - a distance learning program, listen in for insights on:

  • Why cohesion is the key to long-term success in virtual education.
  • How to lead systems change with clarity, equity, and community buy-in.
  • The power of specialized accreditation to elevate—not just evaluate—program quality.
  • What it really means to put relationships at the center of digital learning.

Episode Links:

  • Digital Learning WORKS
  • EmpowerEd Research Institute
  • AccredVEd

Host Links:

  1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
  2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.
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3 months ago
34 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#61 CTE Thrives Online: High STEP's Amanda Bell Shows Us How

Can hands-on career training truly happen online? Skeptics argue that virtual education falls short when it comes to preparing students for high-touch, high-stakes professions—especially in healthcare.


Amanda Bell, a visionary CTE leader and creator of High STEP Virtual Academy, proves otherwise. In this episode, Amanda shares how she’s revolutionizing health science education for rural and under-resourced schools through virtual reality, AI simulations, and hybrid learning models. From virtual cadaver labs to soft skills AI bots, Amanda walks us through how her students are getting certified, career-ready, and more self-aware—all without ever stepping into a physical clinic.

Discover how immersive technology can elevate CTE and make career exploration more equitable, accessible, and personalized. Amanda also offers practical insight into building community online, teaching empathy virtually, and using tech to strengthen—not replace—the human side of healthcare education.

Episode Links:

  • High STEP Virtual Academy
  • South Central Service Cooperative
  • Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration (CILC)

Host Links:

  1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
  2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.
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3 months ago
30 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#60 Live Gaming for Growth: Social‑Emotional Learning Through Play with CoLab's Alan Tang

In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Seth Fleischauer, Tami Moehring, and Allyson Mitchell welcome Alan Tang, founder of Collaboration Laboratory, to explore the power of play as a core instructional strategy in live virtual learning. They dig into what happens when games aren’t the reward—but the curriculum itself. Alan shares how CoLab uses escape rooms, missions, and collaborative challenges to build communication, emotional intelligence, and strategic thinking for kids around the world.

The conversation covers how CoLab builds safe, judgment-free cohorts that span cultures, how facilitators become coaches, and why giving students agency and space to fail leads to deeper learning. From “Elemental Escape” to avocado-themed risk challenges, this episode reveals a vibrant new model of education—where learning is playful, purposeful, and profoundly human.

Key Topics Discussed:

  • Why distance learning is uniquely suited for global, collaborative play
  • How CoLab designs challenges that teach soft skills in high-stakes games
  • The coaching model that blends structure and autonomy for kids aged 7–15
  • Creating psychological safety in virtual cohorts from 25+ countries
  • How feedback from students and facilitators drives content innovation
  • Alan’s vision for future adult and school-based applications of CoLab
  • The role of play in building empathy, leadership, and resilience

Episode Links:

  • Collaboration Laboratory Website
  • Connect with Alan Tang on LinkedIn

Host Links:

  1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
  2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.


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4 months ago
38 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#59 What Florida Gets Right About Virtual Schools with Desiré Mosser

In this episode of Why Distance Learning, your hosts sit down with Desiré Mosser, a veteran instructional coach supporting over 125 virtual educators at Pasco eSchool and Vice President of BOLD (Blended Online Learning Discovery of Florida). A former brick-and-mortar science teacher turned online education leader, Desiré brings over two decades of hands-on virtual teaching experience, systems thinking, and heartfelt coaching into a conversation that dives deep into what it really takes to make virtual schools thrive—not just for students, but for teachers too.

The episode explores how Desiré transitioned into virtual learning out of necessity, only to become a cornerstone of educator support in Florida’s online education community. From dispelling myths about teacher isolation to building sustainable systems of care, Desiré shares stories, strategies, and moments of growth that challenge the notion that distance learning limits connection. Her experience reveals how personalized, human-centered leadership—and a dash of humor—can transform virtual teaching into a deeply rewarding career.


Pain Point:
Many educators—especially high-performing ones from traditional classrooms—struggle with the transition to virtual teaching. They face feelings of professional disorientation, burnout, and isolation, often exacerbated by the misconception that online teaching is less personal or impactful.

Solution:
Desiré combats these challenges with a highly personal, relationship-first approach to coaching and systems design. She builds trust from day one, treating teachers as whole people with lives beyond their screens. Her tools include visual boundaries for home life, proactive calendar management, and “kudos files” to keep morale high. Importantly, she systematizes this approach through a team of lead teachers who carry these same values into their smaller groups, making large-scale support both scalable and heartfelt.

Action:
Educators and school leaders can apply Desiré's strategies by:

  • Building proactive onboarding that prioritizes relationship-building.
  • Encouraging staff to design personal schedules that protect work-life balance.
  • Modeling vulnerability and curiosity in coaching interactions.
  • Instituting a “kudos file” system to celebrate small wins and sustain motivation.
  • Training household members (yes, even toddlers) on virtual work boundaries.

These simple but powerful actions help foster longevity, well-being, and excellence in the virtual teaching profession.

🔗 Episode Links

  • BOLD – Blended Online Learning Discovery of Florida
  • SOS Strategies for Online Survival by Desiré Mosser

🎙️ Host Links

  • Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
  • Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.


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4 months ago
39 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#58 Tiered Support in Virtual and Hybrid Learning with Dr. Lori Wiggins

How can distance learning meet the vastly different needs of students who are disengaged, displaced, or underserved—and still deliver equity, engagement, and academic excellence?

In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Dr. Lori Wiggins, principal of Pasco eSchool, shares how her team runs 12 distinct programs under one virtual roof using a tiered system of support. She walks us through how they combine asynchronous learning, live sessions, adaptive tools, and in-person days to respond to every learner’s academic and emotional needs. Lori emphasizes data-informed decisions, social presence, and the importance of building team capacity to identify and address gaps early and effectively.


Learn how to design flexible virtual models that start with student need, not system convenience. Discover how to use AI as a teacher tool, build roadmaps for intervention, and sustain a human connection that keeps students showing up—even when the learning isn’t easy.


Episode Links:
🎧 Listen: https://cilc.org/podcast
🔗 Pasco eSchool: https://www.pasco.k12.fl.us/eschool


Host Links:

  • Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
  • Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.
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5 months ago
31 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#57 Digital PE for the Real World: Physical Wellness Meets Edtech with Joe Titus

In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Joe Titus, founder and CEO of Hiveclass, to reimagine what physical education can look like in the digital age. They explore how Hiveclass brings inclusive, skill-based movement instruction to students who are often left out of traditional PE—whether due to cost, confidence, access, or classroom logistics.

Joe shares how his platform breaks down barriers to participation by offering bite-sized video lessons across 19+ sports and activities, including dance, yoga, and tennis—many of which require no special equipment. Designed to meet national standards, Hiveclass supports both virtual and brick-and-mortar schools in delivering wellness education that’s engaging, equitable, and empowering for all learners.

This episode challenges the myth that physical education can’t be done well online—and makes a compelling case for why it must be.

Key Topics Discussed:

  • Why PE is the most skipped class—and how digital tools can change that.
  • Building student confidence through choice, differentiated instruction, and accessible content.
  • Supporting overburdened teachers and addressing PE teacher shortages.
  • Bringing equity to sports access by removing geographic and financial barriers.
  • How wellness-focused instruction can build lifelong skills and resilience.
  • The future of digital PE: partnerships, growth, and rebranding physical education for what it truly is—whole-child wellness.

Guest Bio:
Joe Titus is the founder and CEO of Hiveclass, an award-winning digital platform that brings high-quality physical education to learners everywhere. A former finance executive turned edtech entrepreneur, Joe’s mission is to make movement education engaging and accessible for all students—regardless of ability, background, or setting. Hiveclass serves hundreds of schools with standards-aligned video content across 19+ disciplines, empowering students to build confidence, health, and lifelong fitness habits.

Episode Links:

  • Learn more: hiveclass.co
  • Connect with Joe on LinkedIn: Joe Titus
  • See CILC.org/podcast for more episodes

Host Links:

  1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
  2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.
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5 months ago
43 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#56 How We Got Here: Three Stories That Fuel This Podcast

In this special episode of Why Distance Learning, the hosts become the guests. Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring step out from behind the mic to share their personal journeys into distance learning, their current work in the field, and why this podcast exists. From museum basements to prairie dresses to viral Mets fandom, this episode dives into the stories that shaped their passion for virtual education.

They discuss the unique mission of the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration (CILC) and Banyan Global Learning, the challenges and triumphs of distance learning, and the surprising golden moments that define their purpose. It’s a candid, insightful, and at times comedic conversation that reminds us why distance learning matters—and what’s possible when it’s done with care, creativity, and connection.

Episode Highlights:

  • Allyson’s early roots in museum education and her passion for virtual learning that began in 2007.
  • Tami’s journey from prairie dresses to pioneering history education online—and a logging lesson kids never forget.
  • Seth’s origin story as the Sad Mets Fan and how it intersects with the founding of Banyan Global Learning.
  • The role of CILC as a global connector for educators, institutions, and learners across every stage of life.
  • Golden moments from remote Canada to Taiwanese seniors preparing for U.S. colleges—real stories of virtual learning done right.
  • Why this podcast was created: to challenge misconceptions, amplify untold stories, and advocate for the power of live virtual learning.

Episode Links:

  • Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration (CILC)
  • Banyan Global Learning
  • Make It Mindful Podcast

Host Bios:

  • Seth Fleischauer is the founder of Banyan Global Learning and a longtime advocate for teaching global competencies through live virtual programs. He’s also the internet’s original Sad Mets Fan.
  • Allyson Mitchell is the Director of Partnership and Engagement at CILC. With deep roots in museum education, she’s a passionate voice for live virtual learning and co-creator of Why Distance Learning.
  • Tami Moehring is the Director of Member Relations at CILC, bringing 10+ years of expertise in supporting educators and institutions in delivering impactful virtual experiences.
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6 months ago
48 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#55 Distance Learning as a Lifeline for Ukrainian Students with Yuliya Kosko

In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring welcome Yuliya Kosko, founder of Svitlo Education, to explore how live virtual learning becomes a lifeline in the darkest of times. They discuss the founding of Svitlo School during the Russian invasion of Ukraine and how distance learning has supported nearly 2,000 Ukrainian students with free, high-quality instruction amidst trauma, displacement, and daily threats to safety. Yuliya shares how her all-volunteer team, spanning multiple continents, builds meaningful community and resilience through online education—even when students are logging in from bomb shelters.

This powerful conversation makes the case that when done intentionally, virtual learning can create stability, connection, and even joy in crisis.

Key Topics Discussed:

  • Founding an online school during wartime and scaling it to serve thousands.
  • The role of distance learning in supporting displaced, traumatized, and underserved students.
  • Building emotional safety and student engagement in a virtual community.
  • Supporting volunteer teachers and maintaining a strong international team.
  • Why culture, structure, and creativity matter even more in crisis.
  • The importance of equipping students not just with knowledge, but with hope and vision for the future of Ukraine.

Guest Bio:
Yuliya Kosko is the founder and director of Svitlo Education, a free online school for Ukrainian children affected by war. A former primary school teacher in London and co-founder of EducAd Consulting, Yuliya has used her deep experience in international education to create a thriving virtual community that supports both academic growth and emotional healing. Svitlo means “light” in Ukrainian—a name given by one of her first students, and a mission Yuliya embodies every day.

Episode Links:

  • Learn more or get involved: svitloschool.com
  • Connect with Yuliya on LinkedIn: Yuliya Kosko
  • See https://cilc.org/podcast for more episodes

Host Links:

  1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
  2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.


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6 months ago
37 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#54 Online Education That Outperforms Traditional Schools—Here’s How with Heather Rhodes

This is a special crosspost episode of host Seth Fleischauer's other podcast, Make It Mindful: Insights for Global Learning.

In this episode of Why Distance Learning?, host Seth Fleischauer welcomes Heather Rhodes, founder of Highgrove Education and former leader of Harrow School Online. Together, they explore how international online schools can foster academic excellence, cultural competence, and learner autonomy—challenging the perception that online learning lacks rigor, community, or real-world readiness.


Heather shares how her journey began with a desire to support English learners beyond summer programs, and evolved into leading some of the most academically successful online schools in the UK. She explains how Highgrove Education builds a vibrant online culture, prioritizes independent learning, and prepares students not just for exams—but for adulthood.


Key Topics Discussed:

• Why international community building is at the heart of online learning

• How online education reduces prejudice and creates a more inclusive environment

• Practical ways to build belonging, including student-led clubs, house systems, and real-time feedback

• The flipped classroom model and the secret to student agency and academic success

• How conflict is addressed through cultural awareness and shared expectations

• What kind of young adult emerges from this model—and why they thrive at university and beyond


Guest Bio:

Heather Rhodes is the founder of Highgrove Education, an academically rigorous international online school. With over a decade of experience in online education, she previously led Harrow School Online and continues to redefine what’s possible in virtual learning. Heather’s mission is to develop globally minded leaders through inclusive, high-impact education.


Episode Links:

1. Highgrove Education
2. Highgrove Speaker Series – A public-facing program of expert-led talks that anyone can attend, not just enrolled students.

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7 months ago
38 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#53 Online School for Neurodivergent Kids: Insights from Gaia Learning with Kate Longworth

Traditional classrooms can be overwhelming for neurodivergent students. Rigid schedules, sensory overload, and one-size-fits-all approaches leave many feeling anxious, disconnected, and unable to thrive. Parents often ask: Is online education a viable alternative?


In this episode, we sit down with Kate Longworth, CEO and founder of Gaia Learning, a global online school designed for neurodivergent learners. Kate shares how personalized online learning can reduce stress, increase accessibility, and help students build the confidence they need to succeed—whether in virtual or in-person settings.


Key takeaways include:

✔️ The misconception that distance learning isn’t suited for marginalized students—and why the reality is quite the opposite.

✔️ How Gaia Learning’s tiered approach helps neurodivergent students transition from disengagement to confidence.

✔️ Why emotional safety is the foundation of academic success, and how online learning can foster trust and connection.

✔️ Strategies for scaling personalized education while maintaining meaningful, individualized support.


🎯 Action Steps:

• For educators: Consider how flexibility and interest-based learning can transform student engagement.

• For parents: Explore whether hybrid or online models might provide a better fit for your child’s learning needs.

• For school leaders: Rethink the role of online education as a complement to—not a replacement for—in-person learning.


🔗 Episode Links:


🎓 Learn more about Gaia Learning: GaiaLearning.co.uk

📖 Explore resources on neurodivergent learning and education accessibility.

🎧 Listen to past episodes at CILC.org/podcast.


🎤 Host Links:

🌍 CILC.org – Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources with Tami Moehring & Allyson Mitchell.

🎥 Banyan Global Learning – Bringing meaningful global learning experiences to students worldwide with Seth Fleischauer.


🔹 Why Distance Learning? Because it’s evolving, impactful, and here to stay.

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7 months ago
38 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#52 Can You Really Learn Music Online? Debunking the Myths of Virtual Music Education with Caleb Smith

🎵 Can Music Be Taught Effectively Online? Exploring Distance Learning in the Arts


Pain Point: Many believe that subjects like music require in-person instruction to be truly effective. Can students really learn to play an instrument, develop musicality, and experience meaningful arts education online?


Solution: In this episode, Why Distance Learning? hosts welcome Caleb Smith, a professional musician and experienced online music educator. Caleb shares how virtual learning is breaking barriers, making music education accessible to students in remote communities, and fostering creativity in ways traditional classrooms cannot. He explains how online instruction differs from in-person teaching, how technology enhances musical immersion, and why local educators are key partners in virtual music programs.


Key Takeaways:

🎸 Access Over Geography: Online music education connects students in isolated communities with world-class instruction.

🎼 Beyond the Notes: Music education online isn’t just about technique—it’s about inspiration, creativity, and cultural exchange.

📡 Technology as an Enabler: Innovations like OBS Studio, hybrid models, and latency-free platforms (like Gig Room) are redefining online music learning.

🤝 Empowering Educators: Effective online instruction isn’t just about students—it also supports local teachers in refining their craft.

🌎 Cultural Connection: Virtual learning expands students’ exposure to musical traditions, instruments, and styles from around the world.


Action: Listen now to learn how distance learning is transforming music education and what educators can do to optimize virtual arts instruction.


🎧 Episode Links:


 • Learn more about Caleb Smith’s work in online music education


 • Explore Gig Room, a low-latency solution for virtual music collaboration


 • Read about how OBS Studio enhances online music instruction


📌 Host Links:

1️⃣ Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell

2️⃣ Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.


🎙️ If you found this episode valuable, please rate, review, and share Why Distance Learning? with your network!

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8 months ago
31 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#51 From Stopgap to Standard: The Rise of Virtual Learning with DLAC's John Watson

Is distance learning just a pandemic-era stopgap, or does it have lasting potential in education?


Virtual learning skeptics often assume that online education was a temporary fix—an emergency response rather than a viable long-term model. Many educators and policymakers still equate today’s online learning with the chaotic transition of 2020, failing to recognize how far the field has come.


In this episode, John Watson, founder and CEO of DLAC and the Digital Learning Annual Conference, joins us to challenge these misconceptions. As one of the leading voices in digital education, John has spent decades tracking the evolution of online learning, from early adoption to the cutting-edge innovations shaping its future.


Key Insights & Takeaways:


✅ Distance Learning Is Not a Pandemic Experiment—It’s a Proven Model.


 • Many assume that online learning started with COVID, but John explains how digital education has been a long-standing movement with a robust foundation before the pandemic.


 • The abrupt shift in 2020 was emergency remote learning, not the structured, effective virtual programs that have been evolving for decades.


✅ The Reality: Virtual Learning Expands, Not Replaces, Student Options.


 • Online courses are often the only way students can access AP classes, dual enrollment, or specialized subjects.


 • Hybrid and online programs are built on choice, allowing students to personalize their learning while maintaining flexibility.


✅ The Future of Education Is Hybrid, Not Either-Or.


 • The next wave of education isn’t about choosing between online and in-person—it’s about blending the best of both.


 • DLAC attendees are shaping innovative hybrid models, where online learning enhances, rather than replaces, traditional schools.


✅ Sustainability and Lifelong Learning Matter More Than Ever.


 • AI, virtual reality, and digital tools are reshaping education, but sustainable models require schools to focus on personalization and long-term adaptability.


 • John shares a powerful story of a student who went from nearly dropping out to excelling in a hybrid learning model, proving that online education creates futures, not just classrooms.


Actionable Takeaway:


Educators and policymakers must shift their focus from debating if distance learning has a future to optimizing its role in expanding educational access and personalization. The key isn’t replacing in-person learning but designing flexible, high-quality options that meet students’ diverse needs.


🔗 Episode Links:


 • Learn more about DLAC and upcoming events: DLAC.com


 • Explore virtual learning resources at CILC: CILC.org/podcast


📢 Host Links:


 • Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.


 • Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.


🎧 Listen now to hear why distance learning isn’t just here to stay—it’s shaping the future of education.

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8 months ago
46 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
#50 Virtual Students Feel Disconnected? Fix It with These Strategies from Dr. Breauna Wall

🚨 “Distance learning isn’t the problem—bad implementation is.” 🚨


Too many virtual students feel disconnected and unseen, struggling in a system that wasn’t designed with them in mind. Educators want to create engaging, inclusive online spaces—but without the right tools, distance learning can feel like a barrier rather than a bridge.


🎧 In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring sit down with Dr. Breauna Wall, founder of Collaborative Ed Solutions, to tackle one of the biggest challenges in virtual education: how to build an emotional climate that keeps students engaged—especially those with diverse learning needs.


Key Takeaways:


✅ Why emotional climate is the #1 factor in student success—before grades, curriculum, or even technology.

✅ How online learning can be a game-changer for students with disabilities and marginalized learners.

✅ The difference between access and true inclusion—why simply providing a device isn’t enough.

✅ Proven strategies to foster engagement and connection in any virtual classroom.

✅ Golden moment: How one father’s frustration turned into a powerful breakthrough in student support.


💡 PROBLEM → SOLUTION → ACTION

If your virtual students feel like they’re just a name on a roster, this episode will change the way you think about online learning. Discover practical strategies to build community, engagement, and real human connection—even through a screen.


About Today’s Guest:


Dr. Breauna Wall is the founder and CEO of Collaborative Ed Solutions, a Johns Hopkins University teaching associate, and an expert in special education and educational leadership. With over a decade of experience, she focuses on empowering educators and fostering inclusive, accessible learning environments. Her upcoming book on supporting special educators will be released in 2025.


Guest Links:
1. Dr. Wall's CollaborativeEd Solutions - https://www.collaborativeedsolutions.com/


Host Links:


 1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.


 2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.


Research Consulted:

1. Golden, Alexandrea and Emily N Srisarajivakul, Amanda J Hasselle, Rory A Pfund, and Jerica Knox. "What was a gap is now a chasm: Remote schooling, the digital divide, and educational inequities resulting from the COVID-19 pandemic." [PubMed Central] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10259090/

2. Pressly, J.P. "Online Learning Can Help Minimize Racism and Ableism In and Out of the Classroom." [Edtech Magazine] https://edtechmagazine.com/higher/article/2022/05/online-learning-can-help-minimize-racism-and-ableism-and-out-classroom

3. Spievack, Natalie and Megan Gallagher. "For Students of Color, Remote Learning Environments Pose Multiple Challenges." [Urban Institute] https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/students-color-remote-learning-environments-pose-multiple-challenges

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9 months ago
37 minutes

Why Distance Learning?
The Why Distance Learning? Podcast explores the transformative power of live virtual learning and its role in shaping the future of education. Hosted by three seasoned distance learning experts, this podcast delivers insights, promising practices, and inspiration for educators, content providers, and education leaders integrating live virtual experiences into teaching and learning. Each episode features interviews with content creators, industry professionals, field experts, and innovative educators who are driving engagement, equity, and innovation through distance learning. By challenging common perceptions and uncovering the realities of live virtual education, Why Distance Learning highlights its true impact and explores how it continues to evolve in an ever-changing educational landscape. Hosted by Seth Fleischauer of Banyan Global Learning and Allyson Mitchell and Tami Moehring of the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration.