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Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity
Sublime
8 episodes
2 days ago
Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity is a limited series of ten in-depth conversations with some of our favorite thinkers and creatives. We explore how artificial intelligence is changing and challenging creative work. Brought to you by sublime.app, the knowledge tool that sparks creativity and Mercury — business banking trusted by 200,000+ entrepreneurs.
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Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity is a limited series of ten in-depth conversations with some of our favorite thinkers and creatives. We explore how artificial intelligence is changing and challenging creative work. Brought to you by sublime.app, the knowledge tool that sparks creativity and Mercury — business banking trusted by 200,000+ entrepreneurs.
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Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity
Every Job Will Become an Art or Die -- Anu Atluru

In this episode we sit down with writer and investor Anu Atluru  to talk about teams, taste, and why AI shifts work from labor to leverage. We get into:

  • “I don’t want an AI, I want a teammate”: how to pick the 5–10 people who amplify your edge
  • The skills triage: in an AI world, human skills become extinct, art, or sport
  • Venture as the last job: allocation, bets, and why taste still matters
  • Media, machines, medicine: the 3 arenas she’s betting on for the next decade
  • Writing with AI, the right way: upstream ideation, downstream critique—protect the messy middle
  • Doom-prompting is the new doomscrolling: avoiding the dopamine trap


If you’re building or creating, Anu’s prompt is simple: choose better tools—and better people. Use AI to offload the draining parts, keep your human “messy middle,” and express your taste where it counts.


Whoa Vol. 2

This episode is part of a limited series of ten in-depth conversations put together by sublime.app with some of our favorite thinkers and creatives where we explore how artificial intelligence is changing and challenging creative work.

👉 Get your copy of the zine: https://sublime.app/whoa


Brought to you by Mercury

This interview is made possible by Mercury — business banking trusted by 200,000+ entrepreneurs and hands-down our favorite tool for running sublime.app.If you’re a founder or business builder of any type and haven’t tried Mercury yet, visit https://mercury.com today.

Disclaimer

Mercury is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services provided through Choice Financial Group, Column N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust; Members FDIC.

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2 days ago
1 hour 5 minutes 42 seconds

Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity
AI Critics Should Do Some Moral Soul-Searching — Venkatesh Rao

In this episode we sit down with writer, theorist, and consultant Venkatesh Rao to talk about authorship, risk, and why AI is pushing us back to a pre-Gutenberg culture. We get into:


  • How “AI alignment” became PR-speak
  • The concept of individual authorship as a very recent invention
  • Treating LLMs as channels for our shared cultural inheritance, not plagiarism machines
  • Why creative work isn’t “labor” and the middle-class myth that effort guarantees economic value
  • Risk as the price of originality and why most AI slop is low-risk human behavior
  • How Venkatesh actually writes with AI and playful “Lego” ideation
  • Why disclosing AI-use in your writing will soon disappear


Whoa Vol. 2

This episode is part of a limited series of ten in-depth conversations put together by sublime.app with some of our favorite thinkers and creatives where we explore how artificial intelligence is changing and challenging creative work.

👉 Get your copy of the zine: https://sublime.app/whoa


Brought to you by Mercury

This interview is made possible by Mercury — business banking trusted by 200,000+ entrepreneurs and hands-down our favorite tool for running sublime.app.


If you’re a founder or business builder of any type and haven’t tried Mercury yet, visit https://mercury.com today.


Disclaimer

Mercury is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services provided through Choice Financial Group, Column N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust; Members FDIC.

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1 week ago
1 hour 11 minutes 21 seconds

Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity
I Don't Care if a Robot Wrote It. If It's Good, It's Good. — Joan Westenberg

In this episode we sit down with writer and strategist Joan Westenberg to talk about creativity and using AI without losing your humanity. We get into:


  • The essay that blew up: deleting her “second brain” and ditching productivity guilt
  • Human in the loop: why tools are neutral—and responsibility isn’t
  • Joan's AI rule: use it for the stuff you hate (titles, charts, video edits), never for the stuff you love (writing, music)
  • Editors vs. yes-bots: why Joan won’t trust AI for feedback
  • The real fear behind AI backlash: replacement after decades of creative devaluation
  • Choosing friction: manual workflows, single‑purpose tools, and keeping agency
  • Comms without spam: building relationships in a world drowning in AI-generated pitches


Whoa Vol. 2

This episode is part of a limited series of ten in-depth conversations put together by sublime.app with some of our favorite thinkers and creatives where we explore how artificial intelligence is changing and challenging creative work.

👉 Get your copy of the zine: https://sublime.app/whoa


Brought to you by Mercury

This interview is made possible by Mercury — business banking trusted by 200,000+ entrepreneurs and hands-down our favorite tool for running sublime.app.


If you’re a founder or business builder of any type and haven’t tried Mercury yet, visit https://mercury.com today.


Disclaimer

Mercury is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services provided through Choice Financial Group, Column N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust; Members FDIC.

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2 weeks ago
58 minutes 24 seconds

Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity
How David Perell Uses AI to Unlock His Playful Side

In this episode we sit down with writer Jasmine Sun to talk about:


  • Why beauty and craftsmanship—not AI—are the real story of our time
  • Democratic beauty: why everyday public spaces used to lift the human spirit (and why they don’t now)
  • The “paradox of abundance”: why AI makes the best better and the average worse
  • How David actually writes with AI (hint: it involves Theo Von)
  • Why David decided to end Write of Passage
  • New York vs. LA vs. SF: the unspoken culture war over AI in publishing and entertainment
  • Personalization vs. prose: why he’ll start with deep research before a book
  • Why David's bullish on spirit-lifting, live performance and theater in an AI-saturated world
  • … and more


Whoa Vol. 2

This episode is part of a limited series of ten in-depth conversations put together by sublime.app with some of our favorite thinkers and creatives where we explore how artificial intelligence is changing and challenging creative work.

👉 Get your copy of the zine: https://sublime.app/whoa


Brought to you by Mercury

This interview is made possible by Mercury — business banking trusted by 200,000+ entrepreneurs and hands-down our favorite tool for running sublime.app.


If you’re a founder or business builder of any type and haven’t tried Mercury yet, visit https://mercury.com today.


Disclaimer

Mercury is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services provided through Choice Financial Group, Column N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust; Members FDIC.

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3 weeks ago
1 hour 1 minute 42 seconds

Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity
The AI Debate Is Not About Art, It's About Money — Jasmine Sun

In this episode we sit down with writer Jasmine Sun to talk about:


  • Why AI pushed her to leave Substack and write full-time
  • How she actually uses ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini (and what each is best at)
  • Why she’s pro-transparency about using AI—even when it upsets people
  • The AlphaGo lesson: letting AI make you more creative, not less
  • The real anxiety underneath “AI ruins art” (it’s economics, not aesthetics)
  • Custom instructions, long-context workflows, and how she summarizes 20,000-word reports
  • Why she thinks AGI is less milestone, more vibe
  • … and more


Whoa Vol. 2

This episode is part of a limited series of ten in-depth conversations put together by sublime.app with some of our favorite thinkers and creatives where we explore how artificial intelligence is changing and challenging creative work.

👉 Get your copy of the zine: https://sublime.app/whoa


Brought to you by Mercury

This interview is made possible by Mercury — business banking trusted by 200,000+ entrepreneurs and hands-down our favorite tool for running sublime.app.


If you’re a founder or business builder of any type and haven’t tried Mercury yet, visit https://mercury.com today.


Disclaimer

Mercury is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services provided through Choice Financial Group, Column N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust; Members FDIC.

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1 month ago
49 minutes 31 seconds

Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity
Quit Optimizing for Algorithms. Make Something Weird — Robin Sloan

In this episode we sit down with Robin Sloan to talk about:


  • What it was like experimenting with GPT back in 2017—and whether he burned out before the hype
  • Why AI writing lacks the density of choices that makes human work feel alive
  • The paradox of AI humor and why real art depends on things being a little weird
  • His shift from online publishing to hand-printed zines—and why “offline math” works better for artists
  • How he actually uses AI for travel and editing, and where it still falls short
  • Why discovery and criticism matter more than ever in the age of algorithms
  • and more


Whoa Vol. 2

This episode is part of a limited series of ten in-depth conversations put together by sublime.app with some of our favorite thinkers and creatives where we explore how artificial intelligence is changing and challenging creative work.

👉 Get your copy of the zine: https://sublime.app/whoa


Brought to you by Mercury

This interview is made possible by Mercury — business banking trusted by 200,000+ entrepreneurs and hands-down our favorite tool for running sublime.app.


If you’re a founder or business builder of any type and haven’t tried Mercury yet, visit https://mercury.com today.


Disclaimer

Mercury is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services provided through Choice Financial Group, Column N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust; Members FDIC.

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1 month ago
1 hour 9 minutes 8 seconds

Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity
The "Talking Dog" Theory of AI — Seth Godin

In this episode we sit down with Seth Godin to talk about:

  • Why AI is like the weather (and why arguing for or against it misses the point)
  • How he’s gone from 1 hour to 7 hours of daily creativity with AI
  • His “talking dog” theory and why most AI output is still just mayonnaise
  • Why he thinks community will be the scarce thing people actually pay for
  • How he uses Claude and ChatGPT differently—and why he believes Claude is a “close friend”
  • What creators should really be asking: how can AI make my work harder, not easier
  • His prediction for where humans will be in 10 years
  • … and more


Whoa Vol. 2This episode is part of a limited series of ten in-depth conversations put together by sublime.app with some of our favorite thinkers and creatives where we explore how artificial intelligence is changing and challenging creative work.

👉 Get your copy of the zine: https://sublime.app/whoa


Brought to you by Mercury

This interview is made possible by Mercury — business banking trusted by 200,000+ entrepreneurs and hands-down our favorite tool for running sublime.app.If you’re a founder or business builder of any type and haven’t tried Mercury yet, visit https://mercury.com today.

Disclaimer

Mercury is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services provided through Choice Financial Group, Column N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust; Members FDIC.

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1 month ago
39 minutes 15 seconds

Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity
Why Substack's Head of Design Thinks LLMs are Overrated -- Mills Baker

In this episode we sit down with Mills Baker, Head of Design at Substack to talk about:

  • What he's witnessing AI do to Substack's ecosystem of writers and creators
  • How he uses (and doesn't use) AI
  • Why he's bearish on LLMs
  • How Mills sees Substack changing in the coming years
  • Substack’s lead engineer's hot take on how AI impacts timelines of coding projects
  • His prediction for where humans will be in 10 years
  • ...and more


Whoa Vol. 2

This episode is part of a limited series of ten in-depth conversations put together by sublime.app with some of our favorite thinkers and creatives where we explore how artificial intelligence is changing and challenging creative work.👉 Get your copy of the zine: https://sublime.app/whoa


Brought to you by Mercury

This interview is made possible by Mercury — business banking trusted by 200,000+ entrepreneurs and hands-down our favorite tool for running sublime.app.If you’re a founder or business builder of any type and haven’t tried Mercury yet, visit https://mercury.com today.


Disclaimer

Mercury is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services provided through Choice Financial Group, Column N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust; Members FDIC.

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1 month ago
1 hour 11 minutes 40 seconds

Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity
Whoa, Vol. 2: Conversations on AI × Creativity is a limited series of ten in-depth conversations with some of our favorite thinkers and creatives. We explore how artificial intelligence is changing and challenging creative work. Brought to you by sublime.app, the knowledge tool that sparks creativity and Mercury — business banking trusted by 200,000+ entrepreneurs.