Welcome to Vera the Intern: a podcast about learning, growing, and discovering the unexpected! I’m Vera, your host, and I’m here to ask the big (and sometimes small) questions to some of the most fascinating people out there. Whether you’re an intern, a founder, or just someone curious about the world, this podcast is all about sharing lessons, insights, and stories that inspire and connect us. So grab your coffee, or tea, and join me as we dive into the minds and journeys of incredible people. Let’s explore, together! 
 
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Welcome to Vera the Intern: a podcast about learning, growing, and discovering the unexpected! I’m Vera, your host, and I’m here to ask the big (and sometimes small) questions to some of the most fascinating people out there. Whether you’re an intern, a founder, or just someone curious about the world, this podcast is all about sharing lessons, insights, and stories that inspire and connect us. So grab your coffee, or tea, and join me as we dive into the minds and journeys of incredible people. Let’s explore, together! 
 
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In this engaging conversation, Garga, co-founder and CEO of Yuga Labs shares the journey of building the best club in the world - Bored Ape Yacht Club. This is an episode full of alpha, say less. 
 
To connect with us: 
Vera: https://x.com/veratheape 
Jason: https://x.com/CryptoGarga 
To join our podcast tg group:https://t.me/veratheintern 
 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction and Background 
04:38 ApeFest and Community Engagement 
08:52 Apechain and Its Vision 
14:46 The Otherside and Upcoming Features 
20:47 AI Integration and Future Prospects 
28:42 Navigating the Challenges of Crypto UX 
31:00 The Role of AI in Creative Processes 
34:44 Education and AI 
36:52 Community Engagement and Future Projects 
39:35 Reflections on Leadership and Team Dynamics 
43:18 Personal Insights and Life Lessons 
 
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Summary 
In this conversation, we discuss the intersection of AI and blockchain focusing on the creation of Story, a platform aimed at revolutionizing IP management. The discussion covers the challenges faced by creators in the digital economy, the importance of IP in the age of AI, and the innovative approach Story takes by building a L1 blockchain.  
To connect with us: 
Vera: https://x.com/veratheape 
Jason: https://x.com/jasonjzhao 
To join our podcast tg group:https://t.me/veratheintern 
 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Jason and Story 
03:17 The Intersection of AI and Blockchain 
06:04 Founding Story and Team Dynamics 
09:21 The Role of IP in the AI world 
12:15 Creating a Positive Sum Game for Creators 
15:05 Building a L1 Blockchain 
18:18 The Future of IP and AI Collaboration 
21:00 Agent-to-Agent Interactions and Frameworks 
24:13 Personal Insights and Future Plans
In this conversation, Jansen, co-founder and CEO of Virtuals, shares his journey from a gaming DAO to building a society of AI agents. He discusses the evolution of Virtuals, the importance of team dynamics, and the role of blockchain in creating a decentralized economy for AI agents.  
Follow us on X: 
Vera: https://x.com/veratheape 
Jansen: https://x.com/ethermage 
 
Takeaways
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Vera the Intern Podcast 
00:54 The Birth of Virtuals and Its Evolution 
03:47 Building a Strong Team and Culture 
08:52 The Journey into Web3 and AI Agents 
12:05 Understanding AI Agents and Their Levels 
16:27 The Vision of a Society of AI Agents 
20:41 The Role of Crypto in AI Agent Development 
25:30 Engaging the Community and Building Together 
30:20 Exploring IP and Collaboration with AI Agents 
34:16 The Evolution of AI Agents 
36:13 Leadership and Decision-Making in AI Development 
39:52 Tokenomics and Community Ownership 
50:54 Building a Society of AI Agents 
57:44 The Vision for Virtuals as a Nation State 
01:00:09 The Malaysian Startup Ecosystem 
01:03:53 Personal Reflections and Life Decisions