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Unscripted Direct

Spencer Pahlke and Justin Bernstein

132 episodes

16 hours ago

Introduction (0:00:00). Invincibility. The Break (0:03:49). Results from TOC, Davis MLK, and Buffalo-Niagara -- and special congrats to TSU's Tim Adams. Report from Tournament of Champions (0:07:20). Our correspondent (okay, it's just Justin) talks about the best things he saw, the worst things, the food, and the end of UCLA's streak. Most importantly, did Judge Roberts win the case balance wager? Or did he gamble away his seat on the TOC board? Main Interview: Marian Braccia (0:15:47). Profe...

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Introduction (0:00:00). Invincibility. The Break (0:03:49). Results from TOC, Davis MLK, and Buffalo-Niagara -- and special congrats to TSU's Tim Adams. Report from Tournament of Champions (0:07:20). Our correspondent (okay, it's just Justin) talks about the best things he saw, the worst things, the food, and the end of UCLA's streak. Most importantly, did Judge Roberts win the case balance wager? Or did he gamble away his seat on the TOC board? Main Interview: Marian Braccia (0:15:47). Profe...

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Episodes (20/132)

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Episode 132 - Marian's Jules Epstein Impression

Introduction (0:00:00). Invincibility. The Break (0:03:49). Results from TOC, Davis MLK, and Buffalo-Niagara -- and special congrats to TSU's Tim Adams. Report from Tournament of Champions (0:07:20). Our correspondent (okay, it's just Justin) talks about the best things he saw, the worst things, the food, and the end of UCLA's streak. Most importantly, did Judge Roberts win the case balance wager? Or did he gamble away his seat on the TOC board? Main Interview: Marian Braccia (0:15:47). Profe...

3 days ago

1 hour 27 minutes

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Episode 131 - "I Got Squeezed"

Introduction (0:00:00). Spencer teaches with his siblings, and Justin brags about his sibling. The Break (0:05:40). Results from Gold Cup, Syracuse, and St. John's. Tournament Spotlight: Tournament of Champions (0:07:28). Board member Judge Roberts and this year's host Robert Little talk about this year's TOC. Robert laughs at Judge talking about "paramours" and "getting squeezed," while Judge (arguably) decides to gamble his TOC board position in a predictions contest. Tournament...

1 week ago

1 hour 26 minutes

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Episode 130 - Should NALAE start a trial competition?

We also considered an another episode title: "That's a lot of licking." Introduction (0:00:00). Justin shares a possible life change. The Break (0:08:05). Winners from All Star Weekend Two -- the nationals field is set! NALAE Debate (0:09:00). After the NALAE Zoom call, we invited some community leaders -- Adam Shlahet, Katie Powers, Judge Jim Roberts, Robert Little, and Jared Rosenblatt -- to share their thoughts: Should NALAE host its own national competition? Is now the right t...

2 weeks ago

1 hour 26 minutes

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Episode 129 - An Open Ended Question on Cross (with star trial lawyer Sean Claggett)

Introduction (0:00:00). A murder trial without due process. The Break (0:04:46). Results from All Star Weekend One and Stetson's National Pretrial. Suggested Plagiarism with Sean Claggett (0:09:18). Nevada's Trial Lawyer of the Year gives an unusual -- and powerful -- reason to ask an open-ended question on cross. Main Interview: Rene Shekmer (0:43:20). Campbell's advocacy director talks about her 32 years as an AUSA, her work for the IRS, and her three published novels about the CIA. M...

3 weeks ago

1 hour 11 minutes

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Episode 128 - Mock, Drugs, & Rock 'N Roll

Introduction (0:00:00). Jeff Brooks joins us to discuss the year's least controversial controversy. The Break (0:10:06). Results from Denver's Summit Cup. Interview: Kansas's Adam Sokoloff (0:11:45). Before he coached the mock trial team and oversaw the school's Innocence Project, Adam managed bands, went back to school for a philosophy degree, ran marijuana dispensaries, made a living playing poker, and made "a lot of decisions that you wouldn't necessarily make again, but I'm not gonna say ...

1 month ago

1 hour 28 minutes

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Episode 127 - America's Next Top Trial Lawyer

Introduction (0:00:00). Spencer keeps his job. Justin extols a new approach to scrimmaging. The Break (0:08:33). Results from four competitions -- and a wagering correction. America's Next Top Trial Lawyer (0:15:39). Sacramento County DA Thien Ho announces a new competition, with cash prizes. Main Interview: Emily Stover (0:29:48). The longtime coach -- and national champion alum -- from UC Law SF talks about teaching English in prisons, beertending, and the school's mock trial program. She a...

1 month ago

1 hour 10 minutes

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Episode 126 - Job Interviews

Introduction (0:00:00). With Spencer abandoning his co-host, Justin interviews potential replacements. Suggested Plagiarism with Brett Schreiber (0:32:48). The lawyer who won a $243,000,000 verdict against Tesla reveals some secrets, including his approach to cases with third party liability issues. Tournament Spotlight: Battle of the Experts (1:08:57). Drexel's Phil Pasquarello talks about fatherhood, going full-time at the law school, and whether he knows how to write cases that aren't abou...

1 month ago

1 hour 18 minutes

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Episode 125 - "He Cursed at a Child"

Introduction (0:00:00). Where is Spencer taking Justin for their 10th anniversary season? The Break (0:02:33). Results from the National Flash Trial Competition. Main Interview: Stephanie Sullivan (0:07:27). South Texas's director of trial advocacy talks about her famous father, her published poetry, and her addiction to replying-all. She also opens up about the role faith has played in her life, and how she has dealt with losing two children. Tournament Spotlight: First Chair (0:47:24). USD'...

1 month ago

1 hour 14 minutes

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Episode 124 - "I Blame My Wife"

Introduction (0:00:00). Spencer prepares for his ten-year anniversary. Justin gets publicly insulted. The Break (0:07:45). Your first competition results from the new season. Main Interview: John Henry (0:08:57). Loyola's new trial advocacy director talks about his favorite war stories from 80 jury trials, how trial competitions have changed in the last 25 years, whether he was Mirandized by his own mother, how many boilermakers caused him to spin on his head in Syracuse, and why he blames hi...

1 month ago

1 hour 26 minutes

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Episode 123 - How Many Cats is Too Many?

Catching Up (0:00:00). Travel, verdicts, paying off wagers, two words that unreasonably bother Spencer, alumni events, Spanish accents, and one host trying to cause an IP lawsuit for the other. Summer Recap (0:15:13). What were the five funniest moments in our community this summer? Top Gun: Chatting with the Champions (0:22:23). Ohio State's Sarah Paul joins with her second chair Clay Owens and her coach Kendall Beard. It's pretty heartwarming. New Season Storylines (0:46:23). Artifici...

2 months ago

1 hour 29 minutes

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Episode 122 - Summer Stories - Part 2

Introduction. (0:00:00). We're back (for a bit!) to interrupt your summer Mailbag. (0:1:21:21). Thanks to Robert L., other personally identifying information unavailable, for the excellent "question." Applying the Rules. (0:02:31). In our first episode recorded in a real, live, professional studio, Gabe Rivin is back to apply what he taught us in the last episode. To make sure we're all on the same page, we ask him to show us how we would tell the story of Wooden v. Saban as if he were ...

2 months ago

1 hour 12 minutes

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Episode 121 - Summer Stories - Part 1

Introduction (0:00:00). Where are we? What are we doing here? We answer existential questions, and podcast. Story Fundamentals. (0:05:28). We're joined by Gabe Rivin, former showrunner for the Wondery's American Scandal and writer for publications including The Atlantic and The Paris Review. Spencer talks with Gabe about the raw materials that make a good story, they offend basically every fan of Star Wars, and we gain a new appreciation for Erin Brockovich. Debrief! (1:11:16). Justin somehow...

3 months ago

1 hour 19 minutes

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Episode 120 - "Way to go, Winners!" (Scripty Awards, Silverback Gorillas, and more)

Introduction (0:00:00). Spencer cuts down a tree, and Justin gets sentimental (for three reasons). The Break (0:11:38). The EATS awards! And one errata. All Star is Back! (0:12:44). St. Mary's A.J. Bellido de Luna is back and briefer than ever. He announces the return of the All Star Bracket Challenge, reveals his poker secrets, and explains how his face ended up on t-shirts. Top Gun Preview (0:24:03). Baylor's Robert Little expresses how much a Scripty would mean to him, answers "anonym...

5 months ago

1 hour 17 minutes

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Episode 119 - "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers"

Introduction (00:00). Apply for competitions and vote in the Scripties! The Break (06:11). Serious results from Amicus, ridiculous results from Amicus, and a new podcast achievement. Gavel Rankings (12:40). With the semester coming to a close, Gavel founder and head mathematician Jared Rosenblatt shares his calculations and major storylines from the 2024-25 season. He also lodges allegations of snoring and cheating. Shanin Specter: Defending the Rule of Law (25:04). The famed trial lawyer tal...

6 months ago

56 minutes

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Episode 118 - "Ask Your Law Mom"

Introduction (00:00). Spencer and Justin are recovering. "Ask Your Law Mom" (02:30). Buffalo Law's Jen Scharf and Lisa Bauer have their own podcast! They do serious work -- offering advice about legal careers -- but we do our best to make this discussion entirely unserious: yoga, Wordle, student slang, headphone squabbles, and an "Ask Your Law Mom" trivia game that Spencer hosts ... and Justin crashes. Vexatious Litigants (31:29). Northwestern's Josh Jones and Baylor's Dan Tilly debate whethe...

6 months ago

58 minutes

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Episode 117 - Chatting with the Champs

Introduction (0:00:00). Spencer goes to Disney World ... and he tries to change the world. US News Rankings -- for real this time! (0:9:48). What schools made a big jump? The Break (0:13:28). Results from both Big National Competitions, case balance numbers, and Students of the Week. Predictions Recap (0:18:07). Who's paying for Waffle House? Can judges fit in suitcases? And who's the first lawyer in Lone Star to actually win a mid-trial motion? Chat with the Champs, Part 1 (0:30:...

6 months ago

1 hour 26 minutes

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Episode 116 - "Otto is a Sentient Citrus" (Nationals Predictions with Judge Roberts and Brett Bayne)

Introduction (0:00:00). Discussion of the embargoed 2025-26 US News Rankings. The Break (0:02:34). Results from Ethics, South Texas, Chapman, and two military competitions. Nationals Predictions Contest (0:03:57). South Carolina's Brett Bayne and Cumberland's Judge Roberts -- and an unexpected guest -- predict results from AAJ Nationals and TYLA Nationals. You'll hear about mascots, Waffle House, worm taming, camel spitting, and many, many Southern idioms. Suggested Plagiarism: Bill Barton (0...

7 months ago

1 hour 13 minutes

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Episode 115 - What Percentage of Real Lawyers Would Make Your Mock Trial Team?

Introduction (0:00:00). Justin apologizes, and atones, for a Cardinal sin. The Break (0:02:15). Results from Queens DA and Cap City. Plus, a new job opening! Vexatious Litigants (0:03:35). Colleague fight! Stetson's Liz Boals and Kate Donoghue debate if competitions are better with "live witnesses" or "team witnesses." Kate insults her boss. Liz threatens her job. Suggested Plagiarism (0:34:07). Dr. Emily Shaw -- a professional jury consultant and successful mock trial coach -- identifies tri...

7 months ago

1 hour 12 minutes

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Episode 114 - "How to Ask a Question" (Interview with Shanin Specter)

Introduction (0:00:00). Justin gets practical: when do you start planning for next year? Spencer gets philosophical: how do you find the right balance between teaching and other professional obligations? The Break (0:10:41). Results from Trials and Tribulations, and BLSA Nationals! Vexatious Litigants (0:11:26 ). In between vicious insults, Fordham's Adam Shlahet and Hofstra's Jared Rosenblatt debate whether schools should let students compete twice in the same semester. Suggested...

7 months ago

1 hour 10 minutes

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Episode 113 - "Dragging Hostages" - Star Trial Lawyer Chris Arledge on How He Cross-Examines

Introduction (0:00:00). Who's at fault for Microphone-Gate? "How I Teach" (0:04:07). Justin is organizing a new EATS presentation -- and he wants your advice. Who would you like to see teach? And on what topics? (Click here to nominate people.) The Break (0:08:16). Which 20 teams are headed to AAJ Nationals? AAJ Report Card (0:10:08). Was the judge shortage solved? What was the case balance in Hunter v. Huffheins and Snoats? Are there any rules that need to be changed? And how does AAJ ...

7 months ago

1 hour 21 minutes