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Unrefined Podcast .com
Brandon Spain & Lindsy Waters
161 episodes
2 days ago
What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure.
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What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure.
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Unrefined Podcast .com
E181 Widespread Panic? Or Widespread Programming?

In this episode, Brandon, Lindsy, and cohost Jennifer Parks dive into the history and fallout of the 1980s “Satanic Panic,” focusing on the rise and fall of Christian comedian Mike Warnke. They unpack how Warnke’s book The Satan Seller and testimony about being a former Satanic high priest helped spark nationwide hysteria—and how later investigations unraveled parts of his story, leading to his public disgrace. The trio explores the broader cultural forces at play, from media manipulation and government psyops to church fear-mongering, and reflect on how believers treat fallen heroes. The conversation weaves humor, empathy, and insight into fear-based religion, false memory syndrome, and grace in the aftermath of failure.

Timestamps:

00:00:54 Welcome
 00:03:13 Who was Mike Warnke?
 00:05:30 Warnke’s early life and beginnings
 00:07:52 His rise as a Christian comedian
 00:10:18 Testimony of salvation in bootcamp
 00:12:40 Did Warnke cause the Satanic Panic?
 00:14:47 “Michelle Remembers” and false memory roots
 00:17:10 Church mysticism and altered states
 00:19:36 The rise of the Satanic Panic
 00:21:55 Fear, media, and moral hysteria
 00:24:17 McMartin case and guilt by association
 00:26:43 Cornerstone Magazine exposes Warnke
 00:29:09 Divorce, the church, and hypocrisy
 00:31:30 Self-righteousness and judgment
 00:33:52 How do we treat fallen believers?
 00:36:16 Jeffrey Victor’s The Satanic Panic and anti-supernatural bias
00:38:39 Reason, discernment, and the Wesleyan quadrilateral
00:41:03 If Satan can’t stop you, he’ll push you too far
00:43:25 How love treats fallen heroes
00:45:52 Shame vs conviction in Christian life
00:48:16 Grace and the value of people
00:50:36 Church discipline and restoration
00:52:59 Modern fallout and confused truth
00:55:21 The Delphi murders and Odinism connection
00:57:45 Government psyops and the “deep cult”
01:00:03 CIA, media control, and discrediting SRA
01:02:28 Where is Mike Warnke now?
01:04:46 Brokenness, mercy, and redemption
01:06:51 Grace, judgment, and final reflections

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2 days ago
1 hour 9 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E180 The Serpent Said WHAT?

Some ideas belong in the theological recycle bin—this episode takes on one of them. We unpack the “serpent seed” doctrine, where it came from, why it keeps resurfacing, and how it collapses under Hebrew, history, and the church fathers. We trace its Gnostic fingerprints, show how it fuels bad fruit (including racist distortions), and contrast it with the biblical “seed” theme fulfilled in Christ. We also sort out why people confuse Genesis 3 with Genesis 6 and how presentism, isogesis, and click-driven sensationalism muddy the waters. Along the way: Irenaeus, Heiser, Zohar, Ophites, Branham/Murray, and why sound doctrine must marry reason and the supernatural. We wrap with practical tests for spotting heresy and a call back to creedal foundations that love the real Jesus. Today we, welcome back Dr. Judd Burton.

https://www.burtonbeyond.net/

Timestamps

 00:00:08 Creedal foundation
 00:00:28 Show intro
 00:00:56 Guest setup
 00:03:11 What is serpent seed
 00:05:36 Deception is moral
 00:07:38 Language and training
 00:09:43 Interest vs. authority
 00:12:08 Fathers refuted it
 00:14:31 Gnostic sources cited
 00:16:57 Zohar/Kabbalah misuse
 00:19:19 Racist applications
 00:21:26 Fruit test of doctrine
 00:23:48 Nephilim vs serpent seed
 00:26:13 Projecting Gen 6
 00:33:03 Crushing the serpent
 00:35:10 Seed ≠ DNA only
 00:37:34 Presentism cautions
 00:39:43 Evidence and humility
 00:42:08 Emergent/Gnostic drift
 00:44:30 Deconstruction nuance
 00:46:51 Creed over tribe
 00:49:17 Unraveling danger
 00:51:39 Torah and grace
 00:54:05 Final thanks

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55 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E178 The Cost of Modern Christianity

This conversation peels back the glossy veneer on modern church culture and asks what Jesus actually had in mind. We talk megachurch money, the “business model” of religion, and whether tithing-as-law was ever the point. Amy unpacks the influencer pastor era, the pressure-cooker system that breeds burnout, and why Acts-style fellowship (shared tables, rotating teachers, real accountability) still works. We compare Sunday stage shows to small, Spirit-led communities and ask if the apostles would even recognize our churches. From Laodicea warnings to Watchman Nee–style generosity, we press into discipleship over attendance. It’s frank, hopeful, and aimed at reform from the inside out with one of our favorite guests- Amy from Eyes on the Right podcast!

Amy’s Counseling Website: https://www.biblicalguidancecounseling.com/
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Timestamps:
00:01:00 Exposing the business of Christianity
00:02:47 Mention of “The Religious Business” documentary
00:05:08 Heart posture vs church consumerism
00:07:29 Institutional systems and fallen influence
00:09:42 Pastoral pressure and spiritual burnout
00:11:56 Success measured by butts in pews
00:14:23 What is church? The body of Christ
00:16:42 Pedestal pastors and misplaced focus
00:18:59 Shared teaching and authentic leadership
00:21:25 Comparing Acts church to modern models
00:22:05 Tithing vs New Covenant generosity
00:24:32 Giving as worship and heart posture
00:26:45 Generosity, reaping, and sowing in faith
00:29:05 Can the megachurch model be redeemed?
00:31:22 Laodicea church and spiritual blindness
00:33:43 House church rhythm and online fellowship
00:36:03 Would the apostles recognize our churches?
00:38:19 One-anothering and real fellowship
00:40:41 Why recovery groups feel like real church
00:43:07 Transparency, confession, and authentic ministry
00:45:26 Amy’s story — “Get up” and walk again
00:47:46 Prayer for the church and believers
00:49:53 Guest plugs and final thoughts

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2 weeks ago
51 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E177 The C👁️‍🗨️A's Greatest Hits

Brandon and Lindsy welcome a guest who cracks open a hidden dossier on culture-war psyops—where protest songs, psychedelics, and carefully scripted narratives intertwine. Listeners are led through a labyrinth of acid parties that weren’t so “free,” Laurel Canyon salons doubling as distribution hubs, and elite families underwriting a psychedelic renaissance that looks far less organic than advertised. From Lennon to Hendrix, Cobain to Tupac, the names you thought were untouchable are revealed as pawns in a much bigger game. This conversation pulls the velvet curtain back on COINTELPRO echoes in hip-hop, the strange survival of “sex & rock ’n’ roll” while “no drugs” artists vanished, and the shift from vinyl manipulation to viral manipulation.  Guiding us through this maze of evidence and implication is researcher and filmmaker John Potash.

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https://www.johnpotash.com/

Timestamps

 00:52 Setting up today’s topic – hidden war through drugs & culture
 02:00 John Potash joins 
 03:15 John’s personal story with LSD and realization
 05:20 Counseling, corruption & activism background
 07:45 Oligarch fingerprints on U.S. intelligence
 10:00 How John got sources on Tupac & COINTELPRO
 12:10 CIA whistleblowers & early articles
 14:30 Courtney Love, Kurt Cobain & LSD distribution
 16:50 MKULTRA documents & acid in colleges/prisons
 19:10 Timothy Leary, Millbrook Mansion & the Mellons
 21:25 Ken Kesey, Merry Pranksters & the psychedelic bus
 23:50 Crisis-actor rumors about Tupac
 26:15 The Grateful Dead & acid tests
 28:30 How psychedelics weaken emotional control
 31:20 John Lennon’s story, Yoko Ono & manipulation
 33:35 Heroin as a control tactic & parallels with other artists
 36:00 Psychedelics today, ketamine, and medical narrative
 38:15 Funding links: MAPS, Heffter Institute & billionaires
 40:35 Church abuse, MKULTRA techniques still active
 42:55 John’s website, books & projects / closing thoughts

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3 weeks ago
44 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E176 Shroud-Pilled: Science Meets Resurrection

This episode peers into a relic shrouded in both legend and light—the mysterious cloth known as the Shroud of Turin. Brandon, Lindsy, and guest cohost Jen Parks trace its strange trail through history, where carbon dating collides with forensic detail, plasma bursts hint at hidden forces, and ancient lenses raise unsettling questions. Is it art, accident, or a fragment of resurrection itself? In this journey through science, faith, and the unexplained, we welcome back Dr. Trevor Lohman.

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Timestamps

 00:51 Welcome Back Dr. Trevor Lohman
 03:18 Initial thoughts on the Shroud
 05:39 First photograph and negative image
 08:06 Depth data and 3D qualities
 10:31 Skeptics vs believers
 12:50 Gospel accounts and contradictions
 15:12 Faith vs relic debates
 17:30 Forensic blood evidence
 19:53 Camera obscura theory
 22:16 Carbon dating controversy
 24:31 Tracing historical custody
 26:55 1988 carbon dating scandal
 29:18 Problems with raw data
 31:38 Explaining carbon dating
 34:00 Non-invasive dating evidence
 36:26 Historical chain back to Edessa
 38:42 Motives and skepticism
 41:05 Plasma discharge theory
 43:29 Double superficiality discovery
 45:53 Shroud uniqueness
 48:16 Free will and faith tension
 50:42 Protestant skepticism
 53:06 Trevor’s personal transformation
 55:18 Skeptical vs believer arguments
 57:39 AB blood and relic debates
 01:00:02 Resurrection significance
 01:02:26 Trevor’s podcast and other books

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1 month ago
1 hour 5 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E175 The Spirit Already in You

This conversation takes a thoughtful, no-nonsense look at Spirit baptism, gifts, and the heart of what it means to walk in the Spirit. Brandon, Lindsy, and returning guest Clint Byars unravel the baggage around tongues, anointing, and impartation—while exposing how elitism and gnostic thinking have shaped Charismania. They wrestle through semantics, misunderstood doctrines, and real-life experiences of the Spirit, ultimately pointing back to the simplicity of being complete in Christ. From worship as warfare to fasting as a tool for training the flesh, this episode dives into how believers can yield to the Spirit without chasing after hype. Clint closes by sharing a powerful, holistic gospel message rooted in God’s love, freedom, and kingdom reality.

Forward Church — his church (south of Atlanta): https://forward.church

Clint Byars (personal site + resources/membership): https://clintbyars.com

Strong & Godly Men — free course/project for men: https://strongandgodlymen.com

Timestamps:
00:00 Understanding Spirit Baptism
00:45 Clint's Journey to Faith
02:23 The Role of the Holy Spirit
05:37 Semantics of Spirit Baptism
07:24 Misunderstandings in Pentecostalism
09:17 Gnosticism and Its Impact
10:46 Experiencing the Holy Spirit
13:49 The New Covenant and the Holy Spirit
17:22 Obedience vs. Dead Works
20:45 The Outpouring of the Holy Spirit
21:11 Understanding Being Filled with the Spirit
23:12 The Role of the Spirit in Ministry
23:57 Receiving the Spirit: An Active Process
25:46 Contrasting Old and New Testament Experiences
26:36 Gnosticism and the Charismatic Movement
29:12 The Elitism of Spiritual Gifts
30:55 Understanding Spiritual Gifts in Community
33:01 The Toolbox of the Holy Spirit
36:47 Proactive Spiritual Warfare
39:46 Exploring Tongues and Prayer Language
42:48 The Quantum Connection: Consciousness and Creation
43:50 Praying with Authority: Co-laboring with God
45:56 The Power of Tongues: A Divine Gift Under Attack
48:06 Fasting and Spiritual Awareness: The Heart's Role
51:46 Understanding the Heart: The Bridge Between Spirit and Soul
57:24 The Gospel of the Kingdom: A Message of Love and Redemption

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1 month ago
1 hour 12 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E174 Watchers in the Walls: When the Stones Started Talking Back

An ancient site older than history itself flips the script on everything we thought we knew about human origins, religion, and the unseen world. Brandon and Lindsy dig into the strange reality of massive stone structures that shouldn’t exist in the so-called Stone Age—carvings that hint at Watchers, sacred rituals, and even a hidden language lost to time. From ancestor worship and moon-gods to the shocking possibility that humanity’s first couple was deified in stone, this conversation uncovers connections that challenge archaeology, theology, and the very foundations of civilization.  Sure, this guest has been interviewed before—but never like this!

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Timestamps

00:06 Divine nature and cosmology
 03:16 Early assumptions about Gobekli Tepe
 05:42 Agriculture vs. ritual first
 08:08 Pre-agriculture abundance
 10:33 Was the site deliberately buried?
 12:47 Animal guardians and supernatural ties
 14:50 Connections to Watchers and cherubim
 17:17 Symbols, logograms, and proto-writing
 19:45 Luwian language theory
 24:28 Re-dating Gobekli Tepe to Bronze Age?
 26:48 Parallel cultures and locked technologies
 28:55 Explosion of civilization after the flood
 31:17 Natural resources vs. stones as religion
 33:41 Ancestor worship and sacred spaces
 36:07 Deified Adam and Eve imagery
 38:30 Fox pelt loincloths and Genesis echoes
 40:51 Council-like sacred rituals
 43:03 Skull fragments and burial practices
 45:20 Regeneration, vultures, and fertility
 47:43 Nimrod, Babel, and divine intervention
 50:05 What’s next in Aaron’s research
 52:23 Moon-god worship and biblical connections
 54:41 The wilderness of Sin
 56:57 Stones, ancestors, and biblical prohibitions
 59:23 Where to find Aaron’s work
 01:01:44 Patreon and Ancient Pathways resources
 01:04:07 Future hope for Gobekli Tepe research



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1 month ago
1 hour 5 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E173 How to Bury a Nephilim

Something old is hiding in the text—older than creeds, louder than tradition, and it doesn’t like the light. Our returning guest slips us a trail of clues through Genesis 6, Psalm 82, and Deuteronomy 32, pointing to quiet edits, missing words, and a council in the shadows. If those changes are real, they don’t just touch giants—they press on the very name “Son of God.” The story widens: rabbis, translators, and empires trying to hush a supernatural thread that keeps resurfacing. And for reasons that feel uncomfortably current, that thread pulls on politics, bloodlines, and the way nations are discipled. We don’t exactly solve the mystery—but we hand you some compelling evidence with a map.

Timestamps

 00:57 Brandon’s wrestling-style intro 
 02:10 Why he wrote his new paper
 03:17 Pushback against the Nephilim worldview
 05:33 How rabbis altered texts in the 2nd century
 07:56 Augustine and Chrysostom’s naturalistic shift
 10:21 Two Powers in Heaven and early Jewish thought
 12:41 Jesus quoting Psalm 82 and its implications
 15:00 Masoretic vs Septuagint vs Dead Sea Scrolls
 17:21 Deliberate changes in Deuteronomy 32 and Psalm 82
 19:43 New Greek translations to counter the Septuagint
 22:10 Early church fathers’ awareness of text changes
 24:30 Speculation about anti-supernatural agendas
 26:56 Islam, henotheism, and Gnostic influence
 29:15 Jewish fables, genealogies, and textual variants
 31:44 Melchizedek, Shem, and genealogy manipulation
 34:04 Psalm 110 and begotten-before-the-dawn language
 36:32 Connections to Hebrews and Jesus as Melchizedek
 38:51 Why the Nephilim worldview faces modern resistance
 41:09 Tradition vs biblical interpretation in Reformed circles
 43:27 Augustine’s overwhelming influence
 45:32 Quickfire speculative questions for Doug
 47:57 Demythologizing scripture and politics
 50:23 Dispensationalism, Zionism, and modern Israel
 52:32 A biblical chiasm of 1–12–70–nations
 54:50 Paul before the Sanhedrin and watcher parallels
 57:15 Great Commission as discipling nations
 59:40 Two Israels, replacement theology debates

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1 month ago
1 hour 2 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E172 Celtic Fire for the Modern Church

Ever wonder what the future of the church might look like if we tapped into its wild, earthy, and Spirit-filled roots? In this episode, your host Brandon Spain along with Matthew McGuire welcome back author Michael Mitton to explore the wisdom of Celtic Christianity. From sacred landscapes and supernatural encounters to rhythms of prayer, humility, and community, the conversation weaves together theology, history, and the supernatural. They dive into topics like sacred spaces, healing the land, women in ministry, charismatic gifts, and the role of humility in miracles. This one blends ancient faith with modern hunger for authenticity and renewal—and might just give us a glimpse of John 17 lived out.

Desire Spiritual Direction??  Contact Brandon for more info!  brandon@unrefinedpodcast.com

https://amzn.to/3K54AN1<---Michael's Book -Restoring the Woven Cord: Strands of Celtic Christianity for the church today

 

Timestamps:

 02:47 Roots of Celtic Christianity
 05:12 Physical prayer and worship
 07:30 Earthy everyday spirituality
 09:49 Protestant hesitation with Catholic practices
 12:11 Charismatic adoption of contemplative practices
 14:33 Weaving the strands of faith
 16:57 Sacred spaces and healing the land
 19:17 Contaminated land and cleansing stories
 21:38 Creation, nature, and avoiding new age distortions
 24:05 Celtic vs Roman view of human nature
 26:27 Patrick vs Augustine’s confessions
 28:53 Eastern and desert influences
 31:09 Solitude and community rhythm
 32:43 Anam Cara and soul friendship
 35:09 Spiritual direction and confession
 37:28 Green and white martyrdom
 39:51 Missionary adventure and divine restlessness
 42:05 Woven cord and Trinity emphasis
 44:28 Michael’s novel and magical realism
 45:40 Women in ministry in Celtic Christianity
 48:03 Brigid’s story and authority
 50:27 Charismatic gifts and humility
 52:50 Holiness and humility as prerequisites for miracles
 55:13 Eastern vs Western church architecture
 57:31 Favorite Celtic saints
 59:55 Future of the church

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1 month ago
1 hour 2 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E171 The Magical Ducklings and the Kingdom of God

What happens when a chaos magician encounters the living God? In this raw and unforgettable episode, Cole Harrison recounts his wild descent into psychedelic rituals, demonic possession, and occult deception — and the divine rescue that changed everything. From tripping in a basement drum circle to crying out to God in the Oregon wilderness, Cole’s story is a supernatural rollercoaster of redemption. Now, he’s flipping the script, ministering to the same crowd he once ran with — using music, tea, and the presence of Jesus in the middle of psychedelic festivals. It’s gritty, honest, and lit with the fire of the Holy Spirit.

https://themagicalducklings.com/
Guest Contact Info – Cole Harrison

  • Ministry Name: The Magical Ducklings
  • Email: info@themagicalducklings.com
  • YouTube: The Magical Ducklings on YouTube (new music and surround sound experiences shared here)

Book referenced by Heiser: https://amzn.to/3UbHiai

Timestamps
00:06 Demonic encounter and heavenly intervention
 00:28 Introducing Cole Harrison
 02:44 Childhood spirituality and early artistic family background
 05:06 Drawn to the occult and discovery of witchcraft books
 07:27 Early black magic practices and spiritual fractures
 09:51 Arrest, rituals, and descent into chaos magic
 12:13 Drum-based spirit manipulation and psychedelic influence
 14:40 Traveling, manipulation magic, and Castaneda-inspired sorcery
 17:03 Introduction of sinister teacher and basement rituals
 19:32 Possession experiences during chaos drumming
 21:53 Demonic manifestations and internal torment
 24:16 Connection to Process Church similarities
 26:30 The complexity of electronic music and tripping
 28:55 Turning point in the woods, divine encounter
 31:16 Realization of deception at Grateful Dead concert
 33:40 Demon voices, self-harm, and deliverance in the woods
 36:01 Spiritual breakthrough and divine rescue
 38:15 Journey to Rainbow Gathering and continued torment
 40:36 Encounter with the Bread of Life kitchen and Jesus
 42:53 Full surrender, first Bible reading, and confirmation
 45:12 First deliverance experience in Dallas
 47:32 Filled with the Holy Spirit and slain in the spirit
 49:52 Ministry at Bonnaroo and psychedelic outreach
 52:10 Redeeming psychedelic culture through creative ministry
 54:22 What New Agers get right and wrong
 56:43 Reflections on theology, childhood, and spiritual fatherhood
 59:05 Psychedelics, mind control, and Laurel Canyon
 01:01:31 Supernatural love and genuine community in evangelism
 01:04:20 Media mind control and spiritual warfare
 01:06:44 Advice for those called to reach the fringes
 01:09:07 Embracing weirdness and creativity in ministry
 01:11:29 Where to find Cole’s music and final encouragement

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2 months ago
1 hour 13 minutes

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Unrefined Podcast .com
E170 Matter, Mind, and the Maker

Ever wondered what happens when a neuroscientist follows the data and ends up finding God? This week, we sit down with Dr. Trevor Lohman, author of God’s Eye View, to explore the wild intersection of neuroscience, quantum physics, and biblical faith. From the double-slit experiment to the mystery of consciousness, Trevor walks us through how science isn't just compatible with belief in God—it might actually demand it. We also touch on microtubules, frequencies, and a future episode on the Shroud of Turin!

https://unrefinedpodcast.com

Trevor's Book-->https://amzn.to/4fhQByY

Websites & Contact Info

  • 📧 Email to contact Dr. Lohman:
    godseyeviewbook@gmail.com
     
  • 📰 Substack for updates and writings:
    hemisphericpress.substack.com

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Timestamps

00:09 Worldview, science, and truth
 01:08 Introducing Dr. Trevor Lohman
 02:51 Tesla, science conspiracies, and shadow history
 05:10 Growing up in scientism culture
 07:30 Shattered worldview and rise of skepticism
 09:56 Discovering the political and financial layers of science
 12:17 Personal background and corruption in healthcare
 14:39 Philosophy, quantum physics, and shifting perceptions
 16:56 Defining consciousness and free will
 19:16 Mind vs brain: is there a driver in the car?
 21:37 Observer effect and the self
 24:03 Supernatural interpretations of hallucinations
 26:22 Jesus, science, and the power of belief
 28:43 Science as method vs worldview
 31:07 Quantum physics and New Testament parallels
 33:07 Christians vs New Age belief in benevolence
 35:24 Encountering the gospel as an adult scientist
 37:48 The double-slit experiment explained
 42:32 Light as wave vs particle
 44:56 Consciousness collapses reality
 47:07 Simulation theory and rendering reality
 50:27 Co-creation and observation
 50:54 Entanglement and faster-than-light communication
 53:18 Special relativity and breaking it with entanglement
 55:37 Consciousness transmission vs production theories
 57:55 Microtubules as antennas of the soul
 01:00:20 Sleep, prayer, psychedelics, and consciousness
 01:02:26 Frequency, science, and spiritual overlap
 01:04:44 New age vs science: where's the line?
 01:07:01 Real definitions of frequency
 01:09:26 Psychedelics, dreams, and microtubules
 01:11:46 Radio waves, spiritual realms, and spectrum limits
 01:14:11 Frequency medicine and Alzheimer’s
 01:16:38 Why frequency-based health is underfunded
 01:19:01 Shifting focus to the soul and spiritual formation
 01:21:23 Shroud of Turin as scientific mystery
 01:23:48 Evidence for the shroud's authenticity
 01:26:13 Light, resurrection, and conception
 01:27:30 Future topics: AI, consciousness, and shroud
 01:27:56 Outro and contact info

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2 months ago
1 hour 29 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E169 Weird Is Biblical… and We’ve Got More Proof

This conversation gets Holy Spirit wild!  We toss the religious rule book aside and step straight into the deep end of supernatural encounters—exploring altered states of consciousness in the Bible, Old Testament prophets who acted in ways that would shock most church folks today, and how these experiences can’t be judged by outward appearance alone with returning guest Dr. Merrill Greene, author of Drunk in the Spirit.  Merrill unpacks both the scholarship and the strangeness, tying ecstatic experiences to solid biblical precedent, while Brandon shares some wild personal stories (including one about Sandy getting “glued” to the floor). From Saul’s prophetic nakedness to modern misunderstandings like “Kundalini” accusations, this episode pushes past fear, control, and skepticism to ask—what if God is stranger than we think, and closer than we realize?

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Timestamps
00:08 Saul’s example and modern parallels
00:27 Intro to the episode
01:00 Holy Spirit wild and Dr. Merrill Greene returns
02:50 From cessationist to charismatic
05:13 Brandon’s and Sandy’s personal encounters
07:35 Power of lived experience over doctrine
09:55 Old Testament altered states examples
12:16 Misunderstanding altered states in the West
14:26 Academic hesitation toward supernatural topics
16:41 Biblical illiteracy and ignoring the weird parts
19:03 Letting go of control for God’s purposes
21:17 Practicing and maturing in spiritual gifts
23:36 Signs that make you wonder
26:00 Ephesians 5:18 and spiritual intoxication
28:16 Tongues under the prophetic ecstasy umbrella
30:41 Biblical and extra-biblical perspectives
33:07 Archaeology, incense, and hallucinogenics
35:28 Strange fire and God’s terms for communication
37:50 Lonnie Frisbee and encountering Jesus despite drugs
39:55 Future revival and manifestations
42:25 Kundalini accusations and discernment of spirits
44:47 Mislabeling spirits and Catholic demonology
47:35 Closing and where to find Dr. Merrill Greene

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2 months ago
48 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E168 When Science Meets the Spirit?

Ever wondered if remote viewing is just government psy-op weirdness, or WHAT!? In this episode, we welcome back Matthew McGuire—biblical scholar turned parapsychology researcher—to help us sort through the controversy. We explore remote viewing from its scientific roots in the Rhine Research Center and military intelligence units, to its surprising parallels with Christian spiritual gifts like prophecy and words of knowledge. From biblical examples to Watchman Nee’s take on the latent power of the soul, this one hits every angle: theology, science, history, and controversy. Whether you're curious, skeptical, or already peeking through the veil, this episode is an eye-opener.

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📚 Books & Authors Mentioned

  • "The Gift: ESP, the Extraordinary Experiences of Ordinary People"
    📖 Author: Sally Rhine Feather (daughter of J.B. Rhine)
    Overview of ESP phenomena and historical studies.
  • "The Sense of Being Stared At"
    📖 Author: Rupert Sheldrake
    Experiments on telepathy, animal behavior, and intuition.
  • "Irreducible Mind"
    📖 Authors: Edward Kelly et al.
    Massive academic compendium of empirical ESP research from the University of Virginia.
  • "Reading the Enemy’s Mind"
    📖 Author: Paul H. Smith
    In-depth history of the U.S. military's remote viewing program.
  • "The Essential Guide to Remote Viewing"
    📖 Author: Paul H. Smith
    Practical instruction and philosophy of remote viewing.
  • "Remote Viewing Secrets"
    📖 Author: Joe McMoneagle
    Techniques and experiences from one of the top military remote viewers.
  • "Phenomena: The Secret History of the U.S. Government's Investigations into Extrasensory Perception and Psychokinesis"
    📖 Author: Annie Jacobsen
    Journalistic overview of government-funded psychic research.
  • Watchman Nee – "The Latent Power of the Soul"
    Discussed for its theological warning against reactivating pre-fall soul powers.
  • "Drunk in the Spirit"  Paper back and Kindle version
  •  Brand-new book on trance and ecstasy in the Bible; referenced for biblical context on altered states

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Timestamps:

00:06 Navigating the tension of faith and caution
 01:59 What is remote viewing?
 02:44 History of parapsychology and its Christian overlaps
 04:48 Empirical evidence and scientific classification
 05:47 Defining remote viewing from a parapsychology lens
 07:26 Comparing charismatic gifts and psychic ability
 09:49 Matt’s personal research journey and resources
 12:08 Mechanics of remote viewing vs. spiritual gifts
 14:30 Signal, noise, and analytical overlay
 16:50 Prophetic missteps and community interpretation
 19:15 Biblical school of prophets and sanctification
 21:37 Watchman Nee and latent power of the soul
 24:04 Soul powers pre-fall and spiritual caution
 26:29 Trauma, programming, and remote viewing triggers
 28:45 Evangelical fear vs. divine sovereignty
 31:08 Divination in Scripture and biblical nuance
 33:30 The role of intention in discerning practices
 35:43 Trance, ecstasy, and biblical precedent
 38:04 Response to critiques and misinformation
 40:31 The matrix vs. spirit guides in RV
 42:54 Spiritual gifts vs. trained psychic ability
 45:10 Elisha, the king's bedroom, and biblical examples
 47:31 Warning against ego-driven pursuit of power
 49:50 Brandon’s 3-part Jesus model: gifts, character, discipleship
 50:58 Sensory deprivation and altered states
 53:22 Worship, water, and spiritual receptivity
 55:36 Practical resources to learn about RV
 58:02 Upcoming classes and Christian saints in parapsychology
 59:55 Final thoughts and where to find Matt online

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2 months ago
1 hour 1 minute

Unrefined Podcast .com
E167 Rotten Truths: Whispers from the Process

#4 of Series: Something Deeper This Way Comes-

In this jam-packed episode, Brandon and Lindsy welcome Dana of Rotting Jewels for a wild ride through some of the darkest corners of cult history, counterculture, and covert influence. From the shadowy origins of the Process Church to links with the Manson family, Sons of Sam, Scientology, and MKUltra, Dana pulls back the curtain on networks most folks don’t even know exist. They discuss infiltration into churches, animal rights fronts, and even Hollywood. With mafia connections, occult rituals, psychological warfare, and government psyops all woven in—this one’s got everything but the kitchen sink. Good luck sleeping tonight.

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Timestamps:
00:09 Cults, psyops, and tangled truths
 02:32 How Dana got into studying the Process Church
 04:49 Ed Sanders’ early work and importance
 07:10 Scientology’s violent policies and Michael Carr
 09:31 Game of the Gods and cult indoctrination
 11:03 How secrecy works in ritual networks
 13:22 NYPD investigator stories and ritual crimes
 15:36 Serial killers, mind control, and network overlap
 17:44 John Douglas, behavioral profiling, and coverups
 20:04 Snuff films, pornography, and organized crime
 22:19 Cult funding, real estate, and government psyops
 24:45 Naval intelligence, Scientology, and spook connections
 26:58 MKUltra, psychedelics, and John Potash’s research
 29:14 Dana’s personal backlash from Scientology
 31:32 Origins and myths of the Process Church
 33:33 Legal documents, missionary cover, and Mexico exile
 35:51 Transition to the Foundation Faith and prison infiltration
 38:00 Satanic Temple and process theology overlap
 40:18 Netflix’s Sons of Sam and documentary distortion
42:43 Franco’s The Deuce and sanitized narratives
44:58 Evolution of the Process into "faith healing" movements
47:18 High-level infiltration and transhumanist goals
49:38 Sirhan Sirhan, Blavatsky Foundation, and media cover
52:01 Jolly West, MKUltra labs, and blackmail operations
54:18 Haight-Ashbury Clinic and human trafficking
56:32 Children of God and New York AG’s findings
58:44 Jonestown, tax exemption, and deprogramming psyops
01:00:58 Best Friends Animal Society and Utah compound
01:03:15 Temple activity, power usage, and secret research
01:05:35 German Shepherd symbolism and Nazi ideology
01:07:47 Nazi ideology and Scientology’s dark beliefs
01:09:59 Mafia connections, drugs, and Manson links
01:12:27 Propaganda documentaries and buried clues
01:14:49 Berkowitz's silence, longnecks, and prison threats
01:17:01 Mafia spiritual figures and recent Berkowitz interview
01:19:30 New Netflix documentary and future crime pinning
01:20:53 Role of motorcycle gangs in cult operations
01:21:52 Why bikers were ideal tools for ritual work
01:23:01 Rapid-fire Q&A with Dana
01:24:12 Michael Thevis and mafia-porn connections
01:26:20 Final thanks and how to follow Dana

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3 months ago
1 hour 27 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E166 When Darkness Meets Mercy: A Killer’s Redemption

#3 of Series: Something Deeper This Way Comes-

Ever wondered what redemption looks like for a serial killer? This episode’s going to challenge everything you think you know about good, evil, and the reach of God’s mercy. Brandon, Lindsy, and co-host Jen Parks unravel the story of David Berkowitz—yes, the Son of Sam—and his journey from demonic chaos to radical transformation. They explore the trauma, lies, and spiritual strongholds that shaped his life, and how Jesus met him in a prison cell. From cult involvement and MKUltra theories to deep emotional healing and true crime rabbit holes, this one goes there. What if the worst of the worst can be redeemed?

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Timestamps:
00:56 Redemption or jailhouse con?
02:45 Jen's obsession with true crime
04:58 John Douglas, Mindhunter, and SRA doubt
07:12 Ritual abuse denial and its consequences
09:37 Berkowitz’s testimony and Jen’s skepticism
11:59 Monster Mirror and shared humanity
14:25 Process Church connections and spiritual warfare
16:42 Identity, shame, and God's long game
19:01 Jailhouse salvation myths busted
21:25 Early trauma and emotional abandonment
23:47 Adoption trauma and never feeling at home
26:08 Push-pull love and attachment issues
28:25 Shame, guilt, and performance Christianity
30:48 Firestarting, self-harm, and brain trauma
33:14 How the Process Church love-bombed him
35:30 Programmed to kill and lone shooter myths
37:54 Samhain, occult cryptids, and symbolism
40:17 MKUltra, authors, and childhood disillusionment
42:46 The quiet moment of salvation in a prison cell
45:07 Redemption fruit and prison ministry
47:33 Identity lies, Genesis truth, and the orphan spirit
49:55 Losing your individuality in cults
52:09 Dying to self vs. killing your uniqueness
54:36 Enemy’s playbook and emotional triggers
56:59 Why media ignores Berkowitz’s redemption
59:17 A letter-writing ministry to the lost
01:01:39 Caparelli’s interviews and final confession
01:04:02 Final thoughts on spiritual cover-ups
01:06:22 Message of hope: no one is too far gone
 

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3 months ago
1 hour 12 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E165 Mojave Mysteries: Moth to the Flame

Ever wonder what’s really going on in the desert when tens of thousands gather to build a temporary city and burn a giant effigy? In this offbeat episode of Mojave Mysteries, we step just outside the Mojave and into the heart of the Black Rock Desert to explore Burning Man—its roots, rituals, and strange esoteric undercurrents. Brandon and Lindsy are joined by BT Wallace to tackle the symbolism of fire, liminality, mystery schools, countercultures, and even the Nephilim agenda. From sympathetic magic to CIA surveillance, this episode doesn’t just ask questions—it burns them into the sand.

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Timestamps:
01:00 Overview of Burning Man origins
02:18 Symbolism of the effigy and sympathetic magic
04:42 Ancient fire rituals and esoteric connections
07:04 Black Rock Desert and Paiute water baby myths
09:30 Occult views of waterways and dry lakebeds
11:35 Collective ritual and sympathetic resonance
12:29 Burning and cremation traditions across cultures
14:41 Catholic and Presbyterian burial practices
17:03 The utopian illusion and societal experiments
19:22 Watchers, Nephilim, and spiritual magnetism
21:33 Rituals, lights, and spiritual pheromones
23:52 The effigy’s origin story and contradictions
26:15 Mock freedom vs. true spiritual liberty
28:32 Cacophony Society and Silicon Valley roots
30:57 Hypocrisy of Burning Man’s 10 Principles
33:21 Chuck Palahniuk and cultural chaos
35:38 Spiritual warfare and societal engineering
37:58 Government programming and MKUltra links
40:12 Christianity as the true counterculture
42:07 Constantine and the church’s cultural shift
44:09 Eugenics, contraception, and deception
46:31 DARPA, frequencies, and surveillance
48:56 Petri dish of social chaos and control
51:19 Phoenix symbolism and the fake resurrection
53:40 Moses’ fire vs. man-made flame

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3 months ago
56 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E163 Something Deeper This Way Comes: Coast to Cult -Part 2

Things get dark in this part two of the Sons of Sam series. Brandon and Lindsy crack open the ritualistic layers surrounding the Berkowitz case and Maury Terry’s explosive claims. From the eerie murder of Arlis Perry to the strange deaths of the Carr brothers, the duo follows a sinister trail that points to organized cult activity—possibly reaching into military bases, MKUltra, and even serial killer networks. With threads leading to the Process Church, Manson, Zodiac, and the CIA, this isn’t just a crime story—it’s a tangled web of mind control, spiritual warfare, and hidden agendas. And yes, they go full conspiracy mode, all while keeping it rooted in truth.

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00:08:00 Cult tactics and MKUltra
00:54:00 Intro to part two and recap
01:56:00 Fear, lies, and Berkowitz’s silence
03:30:00 Arlis Perry’s ritualistic murder
06:32:00 Satanic panic as smokescreen
08:49:00 Who were the Carr brothers?
11:07:00 The Breslin letter and multiple shooters
13:24:00 Was Arlis’s murder covered up?
15:46:00 More strange connections and police pressure
18:08:00 Occam’s Razor fails in conspiracies
20:33:00 Untermyer Park and Devil’s Cave
22:51:00 Animal sacrifice, Nazi ideology, and Chile
25:16:00 Global trail of cult killings
27:39:00 Process Church theology
29:54:00 Jesus and Satan reconciled?
32:19:00 Controlled opposition and sleeper cells
34:37:00 Animal sanctuaries with occult ties
36:36:00 Human sacrifice in modern disguise
38:57:00 CIA, law enforcement, and the occult
41:18:00 Cults as intelligence experiments
43:42:00 Casinos, sensory deprivation, and dark psychology
45:58:00 Principalities at work
48:20:00 Serial killer networks and the Zodiac
50:37:00 Are serial killers actually organized?
52:04:00 Mentors, handlers, and network cleanups
54:34:00 Media distractions and erosion of trust
56:49:00 Process Church still active?
59:12:00 Was Maury Terry taken down strategically?
01:01:40 Outro and reminder of Jesus as the answer

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3 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E162 Something Deeper This Way Comes: Coast to Cult -Part 1

You think you know the Son of Sam story—lone gunman, demon dog, case closed. But what if the real story is way more tangled, way more sinister, and still unfolding? In this kickoff to a multi-part series, Brandon and Lindsy crack open Maury Terry’s The Ultimate Evil, exploring occult networks, multiple shooters, and a satanic underground that spans the country. From Yonkers to Minot to LA, this episode sets the stage for a wild conspiracy ride. Is Berkowitz just a fall guy? Who were the Carr brothers? And why was the case slammed shut so fast? You’re about to find out.

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Timestamps:

 00:52: Brandon and Lindsy set up the series
 01:50: Berkowitz and the demon dog narrative
 03:13: Maury Terry and the deeper trail
 04:06: Breakdown of the Son of Sam timeline
 06:27: The 44 caliber killer gets a name
 08:50: The famous Breslin letter
 11:06: Berkowitz’s arrest and eerie confession
 13:26: Eyewitness contradictions and sketch inconsistencies
 15:51: Political motives and the Netflix angle
 18:11: Enter Maury Terry and his obsession
 20:36: Discrepancies in the letters and handwriting
 23:01: Untermeyer Park, rituals, and satanic signs
 25:16: Political pushback and Terry's credibility
 27:43: Process Church teaser and cult networks
 30:05: Berkowitz’s confession vs. fear and silence
 32:23: Military ties and the Carr brothers
 34:46: Suspicious deaths of the Carr brothers
 37:12: Minot cult ties and law enforcement tensions
 39:30: The Process Church’s expansion into America
 41:59: The theology of the Process Church
 44:26: Lawsuits, censorship, and occult influence
 46:50: Origins in Scientology and compulsions analysis
 49:09: Lindsay on Manson, cult overlaps, and biker connections
 53:53: Connections to Scientology and suppressed research
 55:47: Cliffhanger and setup for part 2

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4 months ago
57 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
E161 Made to Heal: Why Your Body Can Beat the System

What if the toxins in your body aren't just making you sick… but making you easier to control? In this mind-bending episode, Dr. Robin Braun returns to blow our minds and strengthen our spirits. From smart dust and nanotech to EMFs, vaccines, and mind control frequencies, this conversation is packed with fringe-y facts and soul-saving solutions. But don’t worry—it’s not all doom and gloom. Dr. Robin shares practical tools, detox hacks, and a spiritual framework for staying aligned, healthy, and naturally supernatural in a technocratic world gone rogue.

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Timestamps:

 01:23 Babylonian church structures
 03:02 Authoritarianism vs. biblical leadership
 04:15 The toxic American lifestyle
 05:09 The Sahara metaphor for toxicity
 07:22 Chemtrails and smart dust
 09:38 Bioweapons and Lyme disease
 11:56 Vaccine admissions and mind control
 14:20 Frequency medicine explained
 16:42 Rife machines and healing
 19:07 Scalar energy and AO Scan
 21:16 The unholy trinity: pharma, doctors, insurance
 23:22 EMFs and radiation sickness
 25:46 Harmonizing devices and practical tools
 28:03 Detoxing while traveling
 30:20 The role of military frequency weapons
 32:45 Why EMFs are disharmonious
 35:10 Glyphosate, heavy metals, and hormone disruption
 37:23 Smart dust and brain-machine interface
 38:29 Morgellons and nanotech in the body
 40:50 Frequency control and black goo
 43:13 Demonic influence and energy
 45:37 Voice-to-skull tech and spiritual warfare
 47:42 Operation Paperclip and transhumanism
 49:58 Super soldiers for the Kingdom
 52:17 Spiritual immunity through sonship
 54:40 Mind-controlled rioters and movie metaphors
 56:54 Pineal gland suppression via vaccines
 59:08 Mark of the Beast and compliance
 01:01:23 Evolution of psyops into technomancy
 01:03:53 Nicotine patches for detoxing spike proteins
 01:06:09 MyBadBatch.com and placebo vials
 01:08:20 Tobacco and nicotine myths
 01:10:40 Caffeine and natural stimulants
 01:13:02 Making food choices that heal
 01:15:26 Water contamination and glyphosate
 01:17:49 Kingdom health and performance-based suffering
 01:20:06 EMF and nanotech remediation tools
 01:22:25 Detox hacks and grape juice swish test
 01:24:50 Parasites and spiritual open doors
 01:26:44 Final encouragement and resources

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4 months ago
1 hour 27 minutes

Unrefined Podcast .com
What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure.