Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk –https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk dive deep into one of the most real conversations any parent can have: are we parenting in fear?
From the growing backlash against gentle parenting to the pressure of raising resilient kids in a chaotic world, this episode pulls zero punches. They talk about toddler meltdowns, regret, comparison culture, and why so many millennial parents secretly feel like they’re failing — even when they’re not.
The dads open up about burnout, guilt, and mental health, tackling questions like:
Are modern parents too afraid to let their kids fail?
Is social media making us worse moms and dads?
Why do most fathers struggle to ask for help?
They also share raw stories about sleepless nights, career regrets, feeling disconnected, and the loneliness of modern parenthood — with some needed humor on Love Is Blind, Costco rage, and irrational pet peeves to keep things real.
This episode is equal parts gut punch and therapy session, a reminder that every parent is figuring it out — and that talking about it might be the most important step.
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🕒 Show Notes
(0:00) Intro, banter & Donald Duck impressions 🦆
(0:30) The end of “gentle parenting”?
(1:20) Gen Z parents and the return of discipline
(3:00) Why every dad loses it sometimes (and how to step away)
(7:00) Toddler sleep PTSD & newborn chaos
(10:00) Parenting guilt and the “I got this” trap
(13:00) Love Is Blind, physical attraction & modern relationships
(20:00) Building your utopia: bonfires, lakes, and no mosquitoes
(24:00) Irrational anger: Costco, liberals & slow walkers
(27:00) Biggest regrets: career, parenting, and lost time
(34:00) Tech distractions, viral moments & being present
(36:00) Fear-driven parenting & comparison culture
(40:00) Advice for struggling parents: just tell someone
(44:00) Dad support groups, mental health, and real connection
(46:00) Closing thoughts & partnership invites
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🔗 Links
• Daniel Berk’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com
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Episode 46: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk open up about midlife shifts, burnout, and finding meaning beyond work. From Troy’s recent Dimmo pivot to raw conversations about mental health, selfishness vs. self-care, and why life behind a screen can feel empty, this episode hits deep. The dads get vulnerable about identity, parenting, and the quiet weight many people carry but never voice. What starts as a business update turns into an unfiltered look at purpose, loss, and what really matters when the noise stops.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Launch day: Troy breaks down Dimmo’s pivot and new focus
(0:45) The grind of startup life without big marketing budgets
(1:30) What’s actually working in outbound today
(3:30) Social algorithms, LinkedIn reach, and why virality can feel fake
(5:00) Beehive’s story and how email is being reinvented
(6:30) The power of organic impressions and building real audiences
(7:00) Do audiences matter outside of tech? (Reddit, Quora, X)
(8:00) The attention economy—are we leaving it or just renaming it?
(9:30) Why “eyeballs = revenue” still rules every platform
(11:00) Reddit as the last honest corner of the internet
(12:00) Coffee, burnout, and managing ADHD during the grind
(13:00) Troy’s routine change that killed his afternoon crash
(14:00) Running, training, and the mental game of staying disciplined
(16:00) Moab 240, ultras, and the insanity of endurance athletes
(19:00) Why some pain is chosen—and some isn’t worth it
(20:00) The case for being “selfishly healthy” as a parent and partner
(21:00) Putting mental health first so you can show up for others
(22:00) The fine line between balance and burnout
(24:00) Marriage, faith, and where selfishness crosses into neglect
(26:00) Early mornings, exhaustion, and the cost of self-discipline
(27:00) TikTok tears: the story that broke Troy
(28:00) Midlife reflections: am I living the right way?
(29:00) Escaping screens, chasing sunsets, and booking spontaneous trips
(31:00) Grief, loss, and remembering people are hurting silently
(33:00) Teaching empathy to your kids through small actions
(34:00) Why gratitude hits harder after you cry
(35:00) A new podcast idea: talking to random people about what they’re going through
(36:00) Suicide awareness and how often “the signs” don’t show
(38:00) Why men need more spaces to talk about what’s real
(39:00) Reconsidering what Two Dads in Tech could become
(40:00) Closing reflections: impact, purpose, and what comes next
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Links:
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com
• Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com
• Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP
• Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964
• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai
Episode 45: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – get brutally honest about parenting, burnout, and the fine line between patience and losing it. From gentle parenting and “aggressive dad moments” to marriage dynamics, comparison culture, and raising kids in a world of fear, this episode is raw, funny, and deeply relatable. They open up about moments they’re not proud of, what keeps them grounded, and how to stay sane while raising tiny humans in the chaos of tech and modern life.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Welcome back! Gentle parenting vs. real-world parenting
(0:55) The new survey: 54% of Gen Z parents say “no” to gentle parenting
(2:10) Defining “gentle,” “aggressive,” and everything in between
(5:00) Boiling points: when you have to step away before losing it
(7:00) Sleepless nights, toddler chaos, and the mental toll on parents
(10:00) The car scream test: surviving newborn cries while driving
(12:15) Why people without kids will never really get it
(13:00) Love Is Blind, attraction, and the psychology of relationships
(17:00) Can emotional connection create physical attraction?
(20:30) Building your “utopia” – what stays, what goes, and what drives you nuts
(24:00) Irrational anger: Costco aisle people, liberals, and slow walkers
(27:00) Stubborn people and the danger of being “always right”
(28:00) Biggest career regrets – leaving too early, chasing salary, starting too late
(29:30) Parenting regrets – being present vs. just being there
(34:00) Why tech and distraction are stealing parenting moments
(36:00) Is fear driving modern parenting?
(37:00) Comparison culture and social media’s impact on raising kids
(39:00) Helicopter parents and kids facing the real world
(40:00) Advice for struggling parents: tell someone
(43:00) Dad support groups, community, and finding people who get it
(44:00) Why men need to talk more about mental health
(45:00) Building community without burning out
(46:00) Closing thoughts: empathy, honesty, and what’s next
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Links:
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com
• Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com
• Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP
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• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai
Troy Munson and Daniel Berk break down the two biggest tech revolutions of 2025 — OpenAI’s Sora 2 and Vibe Coding — and what they mean for creators, coders, and the future of work.
From AI-generated movies to apps that can build themselves from a single sentence, this episode dives into how prompting is becoming the new superpower — and why the next billion-dollar company might be written, not coded.
They also debate whether Sora will kill TikTok, whether Hollywood can survive AI, and if real human creativity still matters when machines can make everything look perfect. Between hot takes, dad jokes, and future startup ideas (including energy-efficient prompts and AI power grids), this is one of the most mind-bending Two Dads in Tech episodes yet.
If you care about AI, the future of coding, or just want to know how close we are to AGI running the world — this episode will leave your brain spinning.
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🕒 Show Notes
(0:00) Cold open – AI drama & dad banter
(0:30) The Sora launch: cinematic AI videos that feel real
(4:00) Will Sora replace TikTok and Instagram?
(6:00) How can we tell what’s real anymore?
(7:30) “The future of work is whoever writes the best prompt”
(9:00) Can AI-generated media ever replace human connection?
(10:10) The rise of Sora creators and AI influencers
(15:00) Why AI art still needs human meaning
(20:00) “We’ve already been played” – the illusion of real content online
(25:00) Vibe Coding explained: building apps just by typing
(27:00) The Lovable Cloud and how it kills backend engineering
(29:00) The next billion-dollar idea: power grids, data centers & prompt efficiency
(36:00) AI jokes, dad duties, and rapid-fire questions
(39:00) “Would you fight 100 duck-sized Elon Musks?” 🦆
(40:00) Wrap-up: The human side of AI, creativity, and chaos
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Episode 43: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk - https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk flip the script for a forward-looking episode on technology, parenting, and the moral compass of the next generation. From asking how AI will improve kids’ lives, to exploring connection in a digital-first world, to unpacking the risks of peer pressure, catfishing, and moral drift, this one spans the hopeful and the heavy. They cover everything from the metaverse and online friendships, to pediatric AI, Theranos déjà vu, and even why landscaping might be the ultimate fallback plan. Equal parts thoughtful, funny, and grounded in real dad life—this is Two Dads in Tech at their most future-focused.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Birthday wishes and flipping the script on tech’s impact
(0:26) How AI could improve kids’ lives, not just harm them
(1:14) From libraries to ChatGPT: what learning looks like now
(3:44) Starting a business with AI—from names to logos
(5:02) Connection in the age of FaceTime vs. lost letters in WWII
(6:45) Troy & Daniel’s friendship—never meeting IRL but real nonetheless
(8:34) Gen Z & Gen Alpha: online-first friendships and future peer groups
(9:59) Why the metaverse flopped—and why AI adoption changes everything
(13:12) Philosophy thought experiment: when does a chair stop being the same chair?
(14:45) Catfishing, self-presentation, and versions of “you” in different settings
(17:23) Skateboarding, peer pressure, and the dangers of belonging
(19:27) What will peer pressure look like in 2035?
(21:29) Shifting moral compasses and the speed of social change
(23:14) Parenting kids’ moral compasses in a dark internet age
(25:28) The art of disconnecting—detachment, Opal app, and phone blocking
(27:58) Tech backlash: will kids rebel against laptops like we rebelled against books?
(33:09) AI in pediatric health care: opportunities and risks
(37:04) Theranos: fraud, prison, and was it just before its time?
(39:22) AI agents, automation, and the future of work
(40:47) Landscaping as the ultimate fallback career
(42:45) Half marathons, training advice, and running apps
(43:53) Shoutout to Momentous: protein, collagen peptides, recovery
(44:35) Tango AI: automating sales workflows and end-of-quarter grind
(45:15) Parenting solo: Troy’s weekend with both kids
(46:06) DoorDash tiramisu and late-night dad wins
(46:41) Wrapping up, gratitude, and looking ahead to 52 episodes
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Links:
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com
• Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com
• Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP
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• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai
Troy Munson and Daniel Berk return for a raw, funny, and surprisingly insightful episode of Two Dads in Tech. From getting scammed on Hamilton tickets in Chicago, to the hilarious reality of dad staches, public restrooms, and dude wipes, to viral investing tweets and whether copying politicians on Robinhood is genius or insane this one is packed with unfiltered stories.
They dive into fatherhood chaos, marathon training woes, poker-playing brothers in Vegas, and even how AI can now write bedtime stories for your kids in seconds. It’s a mix of tech, parenting, investing, and the everyday awkward truths of being a dad in 2025.
Equal parts comedy, tech banter, and dad-life honesty, this episode takes you from Wall Street apps to bathroom etiquette without missing a beat.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Cold open: birthdays, banter & Momentous sponsor plug
(2:10) Dad stache debates & Chicago shoutouts
(5:02) The $3,000 Hamilton ticket scam story
(7:30) Dude wipes, bidets, and why America’s bathrooms are gross
(10:30) Shoes in the house & hardwood floors problem
(14:05) Viral Robinhood tweet: copying politicians’ investments
(15:40) Nvidia, Tesla, Fiverr, and the AI investing dilemma
(18:25) GameStop nostalgia & RadioShack’s viral moment
(18:32) Marathon training, injuries, and overpriced races
(22:00) Oracle, TikTok, and tech billionaires reshaping the world
(25:02) AI bedtime stories for kids & parenting hacks
(27:00) Dad life updates: toddlers, big appetites, and family chaos
(28:14) Brothers, poker in Vegas, and generational gaps
(30:00) Raw wrap-up: no cuts, just real
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Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk return for one of the rawest Two Dads in Tech episodes yet. From the shock of watching traumatic world events unfold online, to the weight of polarization in America, to the very real personal cost of chasing success—this conversation pulls no punches. They dig into trauma, health, equity, time management, and even the eerie possibilities of digitizing human consciousness. Equal parts heavy, honest, and hopeful, it’s a look at fatherhood, tech, and mental health when the world feels upside down.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Cold open: “I quit” and starting mid-conversation
(0:22) Banter, birthdays, and shoutouts
(1:50) Processing a heavy week in America
(3:10) Polarization, faith, and feeling unsafe
(5:01) Why this week “happened to me” vs. just the world
(6:14) Accidentally watching traumatic videos online
(7:23) Real-life trauma flashbacks and PTSD triggers
(8:43) Collective group-mind reactions and viral responses
(10:03) Polarization: saint or devil narratives
(10:34) V for Vendetta, movements, and amplified voices
(12:28) History lens: superpowers, cycles, and U.S. division
(14:08) Why America has never been fully “united”
(16:07) Are we a healthy country? Defining the terms
(17:27) Humans are becoming less healthy, not more
(19:06) Knowledge is power—and apathy
(21:23) Inequity, access, and why Flint still matters
(23:13) The personal cost of chasing success
(25:12) Fatherhood pressure not to miss moments
(26:12) Mental health sacrifices for startup grind
(28:09) Why yoga, prayer, and “wasting time” are life hacks
(29:31) Time management, Elon’s 5-minute rule, and wasted blocks
(31:22) Why consistency beats bursts of productivity
(32:23) Cryogenics, ethics, and digitizing consciousness
(34:12) Coping vs. reality when recreating loved ones digitally
(35:45) Movie recs: Goosebumps and Transcendence
(36:02) Sponsor Momentous: protein, creatine, collagen peptides
(37:07) Wrapping up: why this episode may have more nuggets than most
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Links:
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com
• Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com
• Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP
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• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai
Episode 39: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
– and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
– sit down with Scott Leese – https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottleese – for one of the rawest and most vulnerable conversations yet. From surviving nine surgeries and an opioid addiction, to building billion-dollar startups and walking away from easy LinkedIn money, Scott opens up about resilience, authenticity, and the grind of sales. This episode dives into chronic pain, consulting truths, fatherhood fears, and why balance is harder—and more important—than ever. Equal parts battle story and blueprint, it’s a must-listen for anyone chasing success without losing themselves along the way.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) WWE-style intro for Scott Leese
(2:24) Breaking down his consulting scope: sales, ops, recruiting, coaching
(6:09) Authenticity on LinkedIn and walking away from thousands per post
(9:38) Protecting reputation before money changes who you are
(12:00) Scott’s hospital years: autoimmune disease, surgeries, and survival
(14:27) Opioid addiction and going cold turkey at 27
(16:16) From near death to sales: why startups were his lifeline
(20:29) PTSD, chronic pain, and the fear of leaving kids fatherless
(22:10) Fatherhood, health scares, and changing priorities
(25:13) Cold plunges, saunas, and 41 food allergies
(27:00) Grounding rituals and staying even-keeled in business
(33:17) Consulting truths: urgency, feedback, and big-market bets
(39:01) The unicorn that gave him freedom to go solo
(41:20) Lessons he wishes he’d learned earlier about aiming bigger
(42:58) Feeling “almost accomplished” and launching a landscaping biz
(44:33) The comparison trap, stoicism, and keeping perspective
(46:16) Biggest advice: shrink the delta between idea and action
(48:04) How much is a LinkedIn account really worth?
(50:57) Instagram success: $300K in consulting from a new channel
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Links:
• Scott Leese’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottleese
• Daniel Berk’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com
• Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com
• Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP
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• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai
Episode 38: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – sit down with Nir Eyal – https://www.linkedin.com/in/nireyal – for a deep dive into distraction, focus, and fatherhood. From the famous “superpower story” with his daughter, to why attention is the skill of the century, Nir unpacks how to control your time, your triggers, and your tech. The conversation covers parenting in the age of screens, the difference between use and abuse, and how AI might reshape learning and family life. Plus: reconciling Hooked and Indistractable, building better habits, and why being present is the ultimate superpower.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Welcoming Nir Eyal, author of Hooked and Indistractable
(1:15) The “superpower story” that changed how Nir views attention
(3:55) Tech vs. parenting: when phones compete with kids
(6:00) Why attention—not information—is the true skill of the century
(10:20) Stories of millennial parenting and putting devices down
(13:00) The 7-day digital disconnect challenge for families
(14:20) Screen time vs. screen abuse: making the distinction
(19:30) Internal triggers and why distraction starts within
(27:30) How Nir uses AI for writing, notes, and parenting perspectives
(30:00) The future of learning, AI, and education reform
(36:00) Sponsor shoutout: Momentus supplements
(36:30) Nir on handling distraction spirals in real time
(45:20) Reconciling Hooked vs. Indistractable: use vs. misuse
(48:45) Closing gratitude and where to find Nir online
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Links:
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
• Nir Eyal's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/nireyal
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• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai
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Learn More About Nir:
• Check out his book: http://geni.us/indistractable
• Indistractable bonus content: http://www.nirandfar.com/indistractable/
• Indistractable summary article: https://www.nirandfar.com/skill-of-the-future/
• Timeboxing article: https://www.nirandfar.com/timeboxing/
• Values article: https://www.nirandfar.com/common-values/
• Free habit tracker tool: https://www.nirandfar.com/habit-tracker/
• Free schedule maker tool: https://www.nirandfar.com/schedule-maker/
• List of top articles: https://www.nirandfar.com/best-articles/
Episode 36: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
– and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
– go raw and unfiltered on friends, faith, family, and tech. From why making “parent friends” feels like dating, to the loneliness vs. longevity debate of friendships, to whether kids today can still have a childhood without screens, this one swings from vulnerable to hilarious. They open up about religion, rebellion, legacy, and what it really means to live without tech (spoiler: it involves mowing lawns). Plus: Amish cabinets, TikTok golf kids, and whether leaving a ‘public legacy’ is actually overrated.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Leaf blowers, protein shakes, and jumping straight in
(2:00) Do friends actually make you happy—or can family be enough?
(5:54) Deep friendships and the science of living longer
(7:35) Parenting, daycare drop-offs, and the awkward art of making couple friends
(10:58) Music in the park, golf buddies, and social media friend hacks
(12:58) Facebook groups and finding lifelong “Sean and Ashton” friends
(14:01) Nostalgia for playing outside vs. today’s tech-saturated childhoods
(16:20) Tech exhaustion and apps that lock you out for sanity
(22:07) Growing up religious, rebellion, and modern faith perceptions
(25:30) Come-to-Jesus moments and rebuilding from a troubled past
(28:11) Judgment, stereotypes, and walking on eggshells in 2025
(29:24) Could you survive—or earn a living—without technology?
(33:36) Disconnect challenges, Amish stories, and “modern Amish” cabinets
(34:46) Legacy talk: family impact vs. chasing public recognition
(38:44) Commodities, Keith Lee, boat families, and the cost of freedom
(42:10) “Tech Bros Network” ideas and doubling the pod cadence
(44:08) Guests vs. no guests, views, and the behind-the-scenes of Two Dads in Tech
(45:29) Sponsorships, newsletters, and a direct call to listeners
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Links:
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• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
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• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai
Episode 36: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – swap PB&J tips, parenting wins, and hard truths about friendship, marriage, and work. From the hunt for “your Shawn and Ashton” couple friends, to rules of engagement that keep marriages healthy, to why “friendly jabs” aren’t so friendly, this one’s part comedy, part therapy. They also wade into LinkedIn etiquette, IPO dreams, controversial brand moves, and the psychology of being first in sales—or a job interview. Plus: creatine talk, hairline honesty, and why apologizing quickly might be the ultimate life hack.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Diagnosing “Zachery disease” and celebrating 36 episodes
(1:15) PB&J hacks, keto bread, and the great toast debate
(3:55) The importance of friends in the same stage of life
(6:00) Moving, parenting, and finding “your couple friends”
(8:45) Why it’s harder to make parent friends than you think
(10:00) Family proximity vs. social life trade-offs
(13:15) Golden handcuffs, IPO myths, and equity realities
(16:45) LinkedIn connection requests—notes or no notes?
(21:40) Marriage compromises and rules of engagement
(26:47) Never make your partner look bad in public
(29:08) Meeting your spouse in Vegas—party stage to partnership
(33:02) American Eagle’s controversial campaign and brand risks
(38:48) The Jaguar rebrand rabbit hole
(39:38) Worst sales advice ever taught
(48:24) Why being first in sales—or interviews—matters
(49:19) Arnold’s Pump Club, Momentous creatine, and cognitive benefits
(52:15) Hairlines, caring less, and emotional triggers
(54:55) Apologizing fast vs. often—strength or weakness?
(55:32) Where to find every Two Dads in Tech episode and challenge yourself to a 7-day disconnect
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Links:
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
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Episode 35: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – sit down with Anthony Natoli – https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonynatoli – for one of the most vulnerable and powerful episodes yet. From gambling addiction and $100k in debt, to fitness transformation and mindset mastery, Anthony takes us through the dark valleys and high peaks of his life. He opens up about rebuilding from rock bottom, becoming a future father, and why inner peace—not external success—is the ultimate win. If you're building something big while trying to keep your head and heart in check, this one’s for you.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Anthony joins the pod — with chocolate and charisma
(1:45) Losing 34 pounds and the deeper mental win
(4:10) “I’m 32, live in Jersey, and I optimize for joy”
(6:00) Addiction patterns: gambling, food, and emotional escape
(8:45) Childhood trauma, insecurity, and the pursuit of control
(10:30) Gambling $1,000 parlays while in debt
(12:20) Rock bottom: debt, weight gain, and a Brooklyn mom’s ultimatum
(18:30) Joining GA and the turning point that saved his life
(21:00) How recovery helped him find love—and himself
(26:15) “You are enough”—the message Anthony wishes he heard sooner
(29:00) Nataloli’s Nuggets: helping reps sell without burning out
(30:45) The dream: a dog rescue, coffee shop, and gym
(35:00) Finding time when life is full — and why influencer advice often misses the mark
(40:45) Building ‘Offline’: an app to gamify unplugging
(45:00) Stella Sweets, charcuterie boards, and resisting cookie temptation
(47:00) What kind of dad Anthony wants to be—and why he’s ready
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Links:
• Anthony Natoli's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonynatoli
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com
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• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai
Episode 34: Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – and Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – dive headfirst into one of their spiciest topics yet: Should everyone have kids? They unpack the data on parenting and happiness, question cultural expectations, and get deeply personal about their own dad journeys. Along the way, they roast tech influencers, ponder digital dystopias, and ask why Gen Z seems over it all. It's philosophical, funny, and brutally honest — just how you like it.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Podcasting with sick kids in the background
(1:05) Why this might be our most controversial topic
(2:10) “Should everyone have kids?”
(4:50) Circumstantial happiness vs. purpose
(7:00) The data on kids and happiness (it’s rough)
(9:22) Would you be more fulfilled without kids?
(11:30) Emotional cost of raising kids in chaos
(13:40) Is entrepreneurship in your DNA or environment?
(16:15) Teaching kids the mindset to build
(18:00) The parenting paradox: burnout and joy
(20:30) Dysfunction, divorce, and the cost to children
(23:10) The “love tax” of raising kids
(25:25) Should the world even have more people?
(27:00) Tech utopias, AI gods, and digital disillusionment
(30:15) Influencer culture and the fake front
(33:10) Work sucks and Gen Z knows it
(35:00) Building something bigger than yourself
(37:30) Why legacy matters more than convenience
(39:00) Final thoughts on parenting and privilege
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• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
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Episode 33: Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – is back with Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – for a wide-ranging convo that spans euro trips, retirement blueprints, and AI clones. They riff on building wealth without burnout, why vacations matter more than birthday parties, and what happens when your AI twin outlives you. Also: the iPhone is mid, social media might be a drug, and Jeff Bezos (almost) gets a handshake.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Subscribe on YouTube or else
(0:29) Troy’s intervention? Rebrand talk and show structure
(1:09) Why guests are hard (and unpaid help wanted)
(2:42) Troy’s month in Europe vs. real life in South Carolina
(4:55) Retire by 45 — or maybe 40?
(7:03) Kids, wealth planning, and living now
(9:04) What does “retirement” even mean anymore?
(10:00) Angel investing, advising, and startup stakes
(12:35) The Beehive bet and life after SaaS
(14:04) Building wealth as a parent — risk and responsibility
(16:00) Side hustle mentality and the $100K confidence
(17:19) Digital afterlife and AI twins: what happens when you die?
(19:02) AI clones at work — Adam Robbins goes full simulation
(20:02) Scarlett Johansson vs. AI voices
(21:03) Legal gray zones of deepfake content
(22:00) TikTok shop, AI influencers, and automated income
(23:14) Should the U.S. delete TikTok?
(25:13) Gen Y, Yik Yak, and nostalgia apps
(27:12) Gamified loneliness and doomscrolling depression
(28:30) Are creators addicted, too?
(30:50) Should social media exist at all?
(34:15) What if the internet had a time limit?
(36:00) Is distribution just another name for social media?
(37:08) The future of wearables and AR
(39:01) Is iPhone just… boring now?
(41:26) Leaving Apple? Notes, texts, and bubble shaming
(44:31) Merch plug, Bezos jokes, and outro banter
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Links:
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com
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• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai
Episode 32: Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) goes solo dad this week, joined by meme mastermind Charlie Light — the guy behind viral Twitter personalities like John W. Rich, Hunter Cold Calls, and Chase Passive Income. They break down the business behind meme accounts, how to turn tweets into six figures, and what it’s really like building a content empire while raising toddlers. Also: LinkedIn cringe, alpha male memes, and the secret identity of Chet Newsletter Guy.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Daniel flies solo — with meme legend Charlie Light
(1:05) From John W. Rich to Chase Passive Income
(2:06) The grind: posting 40 tweets a day
(4:00) How new meme accounts are born
(6:58) The secret sauce of viral growth
(8:17) Explaining meme work to your kids
(9:03) Dad life, coworking spaces, and working from your phone
(11:26) Real-life ideas → meme gold
(12:18) How meme accounts actually make money
(13:38) Consulting, ghostwriting, and the $500k/year Twitter hustle
(15:05) Ghostwriting clients and meme secrets
(17:28) Finance background → Twitter alpha
(19:21) What about TikTok, LinkedIn, Instagram?
(22:10) Why LinkedIn loves low-effort memes
(24:14) Twitter pays, but LinkedIn converts
(25:09) Meet Chet Newsletter Guy (it’s not who you think)
(27:14) Balancing parenting and always-on content
(30:19) 5 hours > 80-hour grinds
(32:14) Work vs. vacation — for parents, it’s all the same
(33:06) So you want to start a meme account? Here’s how
(35:37) Where to find Charlie online
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Links:
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/
• Charlie Light's Twitter – https://twitter.com/charlierich
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Episode 31: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) jump from cold call sprints to billion-dollar acquisitions, all while hiking the Dolomites and dodging SEO doom. They dive deep on why the internet is broken (again), how social virality actually works, and why email lists might be your startup’s last lifeline. Plus: parallel dialers, parenting backpacks, and a running comeback you didn’t see coming.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Mics are hot and jerseys are tight
(2:00) Would you take $1M to never visit Rhode Island?
(4:05) Ragebait on Twitter and Gen Z podcasts
(6:00) Cold call challenge: 10 meetings in a day
(8:20) Parallel dialers, P1 data, and qualifying leads
(11:00) Empathy on cold calls? Wild idea, we know
(13:00) Breaking out of a founder funk
(15:00) Sales vs. marketing: who actually gets training?
(17:00) The psychology of persuasion and compounding success
(20:00) AI bots banned from crawling websites
(22:10) SEO is dying. What now?
(24:30) Email lists are everything
(26:00) Building social engagement inside your startup
(29:00) Beehive’s secret growth engine
(31:30) Sponsor shoutout: Tango (https://tango.us)
(32:15) AI isn’t magic — it’s leverage
(34:00) Cloudflare vs. OpenAI — who wins?
(36:00) Hiking Italy with kids (and packs)
(38:00) Delegating the podcast grind
(39:00) Grammarly buys Superhuman — wait, what?
(41:00) Mental vs. physical health: Daniel’s return to running
(43:00) Wrapping it up + why you should just subscribe already
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Links:
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/
• Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/
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Episode 30: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) go full late-night therapy session — live from Spain (again) and the depths of parental chaos. From mushroom microdosing and screaming toddlers to productivity paranoia and the new AI gold rush, the dads get vulnerable, real, and a little spicy. This one’s less “tech podcast,” more existential spiral. You’ve been warned.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Chaos in Spain: Kids crying, lights dying
(1:40) Daniel’s 14-hour day (with zero breaks)
(3:10) “I microdosed mushrooms… but not enough”
(5:00) The lie of productivity culture
(7:30) Doing hard things with your kids — not despite them
(9:20) Troy’s “Go off, King” dad moment
(10:50) AI doesn’t kill jobs — dumb managers do
(13:15) The “you should just be better” gaslight
(15:00) What leadership actually requires now
(17:40) Will your AI agent handle your meetings soon?
(20:10) Why we’re tired of the 10x hustle cult
(22:25) Talking about marriage... again
(25:00) What no one tells you about scaling startups with kids
(28:00) Why Daniel cried on a run
(29:30) Cereal, snacks, and unfinished therapy
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Links:
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/
• Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/
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• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/
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Episode 29: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) fire up the mics from across the globe — literally. With Daniel calling in from a Spanish bedroom, the dads get real about raising kids while building companies, how their own childhoods shape their parenting, and what legacy really means in a hyper-growth world. Plus, a spicy take on AI sales tools, the end of the smartphone era, and why your next vacation might include teleportation.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Daniel calls in from bed in Spain
(0:48) Why flying with toddlers is chaos (and how Daniel hacks it)
(2:14) Daniel’s son loses it in Madrid
(4:10) “What do I want my kids to say at my funeral?”
(6:10) Should our kids earn what we didn’t have?
(8:00) When providing becomes a problem
(10:00) Memories of being “not enough” as a child
(11:30) Troy on public school, depression, and doing better for his kids
(14:10) Systems, burnout, and fixing the root causes
(17:25) Love your spouse out loud — here’s why
(19:03) Troy’s mom might be our next guest?!
(20:30) What happened to “simple”?
(22:35) AI tools we’re using right now (Dimmo, Sybill, etc.)
(24:25) The “AI agent” debate + AI sales truth bombs
(27:40) Why Gong might not be it anymore
(28:50) ClickUp, Replit, and the race to own the workflow
(30:00) “The next phone is not a phone” — the future of devices
(31:55) Wearables, teleportation, and post-screen tech
(34:25) Daniel’s bizarre powdered donut story
(35:45) The digital detox challenge is ON
(36:50) New site drop + what’s next
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Links:
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/
• Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/
• Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP
• Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964
• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/
Episode 28: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) go off on the current state of AI and the annoying trend of fake content. They share hilarious (and painful) stories of ChatGPT hallucinations, the dangers of outsourcing content creation, and why you need to be your own source of truth. From OpenAI's growing reach to the wild world of AI-generated demos, it's a tech-heavy episode with just enough dad jokes to keep you grounded.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) "Dude, Chet" and existential AI fatigue
(2:00) Shoutout to Travis + HubSpot’s OpenAI partnership
(4:00) ChatGPT hallucinated the entire episode
(6:30) When AI scripts your podcast with fake topics
(8:15) The demo video debacle
(10:00) Can you trust what you didn’t verify?
(13:00) “It’s happening more now” — on the rise of AI laziness
(16:30) Why being the source matters in content creation
(19:00) Everyone is repackaging…everything
(22:45) Should you even outsource demo content?
(26:10) AI outputs vs actual insight
(30:00) “Make sure you watched the damn thing”
(32:40) Is AI too confident for its own good?
(36:00) The dad truth: trust but verify — always
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Links:
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/
• Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/
• Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP
• Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964
• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/
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Episode 27: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) are back from a wild lake trip — 4 families, 7 kids, and a whole lot of chaos. They get real about co-parenting dynamics, underwater earbuds, and the mental load moms often carry. This one’s a vulnerable, reflective take on modern fatherhood: the guilt, the growth, and the grind of trying to be present while still needing space.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) Lake trip recap: 4 families, 1 mic, and a ton of coffee
(3:10) Trading roles with your spouse: easier said than done
(6:00) Daniel’s take on “doing nothing” and why it’s never nothing
(8:30) Underwater music and pool workouts — dad recovery mode
(11:45) The guilt of checking out vs. the need to recharge
(14:15) The invisible load: why appreciation matters
(17:40) Raising toddlers and navigating triggers
(21:00) Learning to out-serve your spouse (and failing often)
(24:15) Being more present and letting go of control
(27:00) Reflections on family, empathy, and growth
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Links:
• Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/
• Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/
• Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/
• Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/
• Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP
• Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964
• Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/
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