B narrates this episode. She survived a serial killer and Tommy Lynn Sells would be known as the cross country killer.  Show Notes and Credits :  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6_aewleyEAxVkxgIHHc0JCxAQFnoECDcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTommy_Lynn_Sells&usg=AOvVaw2B7Ce_9TPWQPbETmmSlfLj&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6_aewleyEAxVkxgIHHc0JCxAQFnoECDYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fallthatsinteresting.com%2Ftommy-lynn-sells&usg=AOvVaw2Knraym3cQjuIC1hRboQl5&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6_aewleyEAxVkxgIHHc0JCxAQFnoECFwQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcriminalminds.fandom.com%2Fwiki%2FTommy_Lynn_Sells&usg=AOvVaw0WemPTK9lv5YF2u7yuc42d&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6_aewleyEAxVkxgIHHc0JCxAQwqsBegQIaxAG&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DwuzW5SqaqT4&usg=AOvVaw3PHFxw25wEXXNHj-j8WwY3&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6_aewleyEAxVkxgIHHc0JCxAQFnoECDIQAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.clarkprosecutor.org%2Fhtml%2Fdeath%2FUS%2Fsells1374.htm&usg=AOvVaw2zpASvvJenCyDK3fR6wJJB&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6_aewleyEAxVkxgIHHc0JCxAQFnoECD4QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tdcj.texas.gov%2Fdeath_row%2Fdr_info%2Fsellstommy.html&usg=AOvVaw1nD94F8HOWdsT9Tb3bB5m6&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6_aewleyEAxVkxgIHHc0JCxAQFnoECFkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcrimejunkiepodcast.com%2Fserial-killer-tommy-lynn-sells%2F&usg=AOvVaw1jKNddgBMIZnuoSsLnmffE&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6_aewleyEAxVkxgIHHc0JCxAQFnoECFYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.crimelibrary.org%2Fserial_killers%2Fpredators%2Ftommy_sells%2F3.html&usg=AOvVaw2yThaA6T7mHDMRcJg2OLi9&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6_aewleyEAxVkxgIHHc0JCxAQFnoECDUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fabc7chicago.com%2Ftommy-lynn-sells-julie-rea-joel-kirkpatrick-fabienne-witherspoon%2F11228084%2F&usg=AOvVaw2r37zouA9ip_rcu_SSu7Qf&opi=89978449

Show notes and Credits :   Sv Williams and Others (CCT20/94) [1995] ZACC 6; 1995 (3) SA 632 ; 1995 (7) BCLR 861 (CC) (9 June 1995) (saflii.org) S v Williams and Others 1995 (2) SACR 251 (CC) - Dullah Omar Institute S v Williams and Others (concourt.org.za) saconstitution-web-eng.pdf (justice.gov.za) International case law stated in trial: Vuolanne v Finland 96 ILR 649, 657. P van Dijk and GJH van Hoof, Theory and Practice of the European Convention on Human Rights, (1990), 2 ed., 226-227. Denmark et al v Greece: Report of 5 November 1969, Yearbook of the European Convention on Human Rights XII (1969), 186 The Republic of Ireland v The United Kingdom (1979-80) 2 EHRR 25, 80, paragraph 167 408 US 238 (1972). This case held that capital punishment in the then existing statute, providing for capital punishment, in the State of Georgia was unconstitutional Smith v The Queen (1988) 31 CRR 193, 213. Supra note 3. Supra note 13, at 721H. Supra note 5. At 4621-J Greenland J agreed with the characterisation of corporal punishment as "barbaric, inherently brutal, cruel, inhuman and degrading."

Show Notes and Credits:   https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjZnN-jlreEAxVMSEEAHebFDnYQFnoECCgQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGert_van_Rooyen&usg=AOvVaw2__ICfZMjsqZBpE8zt5mWb&opi=89978449   https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjZnN-jlreEAxVMSEEAHebFDnYQFnoECEUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sahistory.org.za%2Fdated-event%2Fpaedophile-gert-van-rooyen-and-mistress-commit-suicide&usg=AOvVaw2llylYb6pu-UxyHb7c-Vjd&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjZnN-jlreEAxVMSEEAHebFDnYQFnoECEEQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmurderpedia.org%2Fmale.V%2Fv%2Fvan-rooyen-gert.htm&usg=AOvVaw3FFChIMdcnQYehWhZvwwKS&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjZnN-jlreEAxVMSEEAHebFDnYQFnoECEcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iol.co.za%2Fpretoria-news%2Fnews%2Fresidents-want-gert-van-rooyen-joey-haarhoffs-house-of-horrors-to-be-house-of-hope-9d913526-40f8-4116-9b36-a4b02d4b7ae3&usg=AOvVaw09liLukgnzW4aLz5liqlqM&opi=89978449    

In this episode S and B trauma dump about how they grew up.

S narrates this episode. House of horrors, a term we are all too familiar with. In this episode, S delves into 5 South African cases that could very well be dubbed “horror house” and the severe abuse and neglect of the children within their own homes.  This is part 1 of 2. Show Notes and Credits :   https://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAKZDHC/2018/55.html   https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2018-11-08-baby-jamies-mother-sentenced-to-20-years-for-brutal-assault-and-murder/ https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/north-west/parents-face-murder-charge-after-neglected-baby-dies-of-malnutrition-2571e169-efb8-41e6-83fc-1d8068112736 https://www.rnews.co.za/christmas-behind-bars-for-klerksdorp-couple-who-allegedly-abused/ https://www.rnews.co.za/three-children-rescued-from-klerksdorp-house/ https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjzo5HE8qCEAxUsVEEAHfvfA7IQFnoECBIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iol.co.za%2Fnews%2Fsouth-africa%2Fcould-we-have-stopped-her-murder-434936&usg=AOvVaw2k0NYyvM3Mr83aThoHXUId&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjzo5HE8qCEAxUsVEEAHfvfA7IQFnoECA0QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmg.co.za%2Farticle%2F2006-10-19-alleged-child-abuser-granted-r10nbsp000-bail%2F&usg=AOvVaw0mIuFQfj_Z5hvf2YEJX3Yh&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjx_s7X8qCEAxU3UkEAHWsSBUwQFnoECA0QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iol.co.za%2Fnews%2Fthis-years-horror-child-abuse-cases-12485629&usg=AOvVaw1M9qhsnJRUaj_YQRpGMnZl&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjx_s7X8qCEAxU3UkEAHWsSBUwQFnoECBAQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymaverick.co.za%2Farticle%2F2021-01-21-horrific-tale-of-child-abuse-and-murder-unfolds-in-western-cape-high-court%2F&usg=AOvVaw1KazO8lczhRNAt3cY61kBs&opi=89978449  

S narrates this minisode.   Show notes and Credits :   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fosaville_serial_killer https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj51eukyJmEAxWsQkEAHaxUAdUQFnoECBsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iol.co.za%2Fnews%2Fsouth-africa%2Friverman-serial-killer-strikes-again-68691&usg=AOvVaw3zlJeQidENwiL5FAf6TJLD&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiuoJ60yJmEAxXeXUEAHdrDDXY4ChAWegQIDRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.timeslive.co.za%2Fnews%2Fsouth-africa%2F2013-07-24-sugar-cane-killer-confesses%2F&usg=AOvVaw2-KcKExjoehoZzNDK4gPgH&opi=89978449  

B narrates this episode.    Show Notes and Credits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Anni_Dewani

WHAT THE LAW ?   Cupcake delves into assisted suicide in South Africa   Show notes and Credits : https://dx.doi.org/10.7196/samj.2017.v107i5.12450 Minister of Justice and Correctional Services and Others v Estate Late James Stransham-Ford and Others (531/2015) [2016] ZASCA 197; [2017] 1 All SA 354 (SCA); 2017 (3) BCLR 364 (SCA); 2017 (3) SA 152 (SCA) (6 December 2016) (saflii.org)The right to die: unpacking an ethical dilemma in South Africa (theconversation.com)    

S narrates this Minisode .   The horrific murders took place after what was supposed to be a wonderful Thanksgiving. Joel Jr not only murdered his parents, but dismembered them and those who attended his court case would be warned to leave the courtroom if they felt overwhelmed.   Show notes and Credits :  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Joel_and_Lisa_Guy https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjWj5nhmIKEAxX1UEEAHZM6CCYQFnoECBMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.knoxnews.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fcrime%2F2023%2F05%2F10%2Fjoel-guy-jr-loses-longshot-appeal-in-his-parents-murders%2F70195042007%2F&usg=AOvVaw1U1o8TpaGufLeD5DilfLvq&opi=89978449   https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjWj5nhmIKEAxX1UEEAHZM6CCYQFnoECDoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fallthatsinteresting.com%2Fjoel-guy-jr&usg=AOvVaw0bVvBq8uXAY8eGlm2YokJX&opi=89978449   https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjWj5nhmIKEAxX1UEEAHZM6CCYQFnoECDsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wbir.com%2Farticle%2Fnews%2Fcrime%2Fthe-urge-to-hurt-guy-jr-says-hes-fantasized-about-gouging-out-the-eyes-of-fellow-inmates%2F51-11dbfcfa-5ff8-4e1c-b499-13c639b134b3&usg=AOvVaw25plmJ7Kn-Mh-hLXrNwvd1&opi=89978449 https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime/Diabolical-Stew-of-Human-Remains-The-Dismemberment-Murder-of-Joel-and-Lisa-Guy    

B narrates this episode. It’s full episode Friday - well it was, but rather late than never! #thesebitchesareorganised .  B deep dives into the case of Chris Watts and how he planned to have a perfect life with his mistress by eliminating everything that stood in the way of their future together…mainly his pregnant wife and two daughters.  Show Notes and Credits :    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiUyPuDg4KEAxXDV0EAHeAYD9cQFnoECCsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWatts_family_murders&usg=AOvVaw2Fcq_DEWIMBYy0qDtF_fDc&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiUyPuDg4KEAxXDV0EAHeAYD9cQFnoECEYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unilad.com%2Ffilm-and-tv%2Fshocking-things-netflix-chris-watts-documentary-didnt-show-739141-20230507&usg=AOvVaw1mULDAPwLQrlw1IfVn1tm-&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiUyPuDg4KEAxXDV0EAHeAYD9cQFnoECFUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fparade.com%2F1102630%2Fjessicasager%2Fchris-watts-update-2020-prison-life%2F&usg=AOvVaw3KdhBShzHVedmzLyJOOV6K&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiUyPuDg4KEAxXDV0EAHeAYD9cQFnoECCwQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mirror.co.uk%2Fall-about%2Fchris-watts&usg=AOvVaw1PAMOwFskE_JL_5rDqU25Q&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiUyPuDg4KEAxXDV0EAHeAYD9cQFnoECEwQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-12419075%2FChris-Watts-working-custodian-maximum-security-prison-group-female-pen-pals-hes-revealed-gory-details-strangled-pregnant-wife-smothered-two-young-daughters.html&usg=AOvVaw1Y6yL2bZll0-2AshsdHrSA&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiUyPuDg4KEAxXDV0EAHeAYD9cQFnoECGcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.insideedition.com%2Fchris-watts-murders-prison&usg=AOvVaw3oRgz3VJL7Y4mCwJkonBa3&opi=89978449    

What The Law with Cupcake

B narrates this minisode. She delves into 3 cases that have something in common…   Show Notes & Credits :   https://www.ru.ac.za/perspective/2013archive/thedemonisationofoscarpistoriusandcezannevisser.html   https://mg.co.za/tag/cezanne-visser/   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Pistorius   https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-67885713.amp   https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-0QAfoDhvio    

In part 3 we conclude this case and this horrifying journey ends with many questions! If you would like to read the book published please refer to this link :   https://www.saxo.com/dk/taekkemanden_helle-maj_lydbog-download_9788772009926

B narrates this episode and she tells of a love triangle that ended with murder. When 47 year old Susanna was found stabbed to death in her home in Bellville, police did not know that this investigation would shock the City of Cape Town. Was it the husband ? Or his 17 year old mistress ? Or maybe the one legged man who had been stalking their house ? The case would conclude with two death penalties and a change in the Law, only to have her murderer die whist living a free life and and Susanna’s life was exchanged for R1, a bottle of gin and a radio.   Show Notes and Credits :  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlene_Lehnberg  

B is back ! And S narrates this episode, taking B from confused to actual wtf. In this full episode we delve into the murder committed by Chane van Heerden and Maartens van der Merwe in a Welkom Cemetery. If you thought that the cemetery was the creepy part of this story, hold on to your socks as S takes you through the disturbing journey that led to the murder of Michael van Eck and the killer couple that was a match made in hell.   Show Notes and Credits :  THE BOOKS :  https://a.co/d/h1oGInL https://www.penguinrandomhouse.co.za/book/profiler-diaries-case-files-police-psychologist/9781776095827 THE NEWS :  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi62NCL5MaDAxUCRvEDHaHqDy8QFnoECAwQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.news24.com%2Fnews24%2Foccult-killer-shows-no-remorse-20111121&usg=AOvVaw1twBYM6O4t5YOPi-xztrzk&opi=89978449   https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi62NCL5MaDAxUCRvEDHaHqDy8QFnoECBAQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nzherald.co.nz%2Fworld%2Fchilling-drawings-from-sadistic-serial-killers-in-prison%2FI5C7FDBGGSDFOOM2NI3RBLVZJ4%2F&usg=AOvVaw3Z-OAREShz3ah29M_smVjz&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi62NCL5MaDAxUCRvEDHaHqDy8QFnoECA0QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftruecrimesouthafrica.com%2Ftag%2Fchane-van-heerden%2F&usg=AOvVaw06Lz_PwN2tMVNKk61iXvdk&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi62NCL5MaDAxUCRvEDHaHqDy8QFnoECCkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.timeslive.co.za%2Fnews%2Fsouth-africa%2F2011-11-21-welkom-woman-found-guilty-of-occult-murder%2F&usg=AOvVaw2mJQRyL-Zl-grdn-jyivBA&opi=89978449 THE PODCASTS :  https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/rotten-mango/id1517954480?i=1000577904156 https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/true-crime-south-africa/id1469703618?i=1000471701600  

S narrates this Minisode. Yuka Takaoka (高岡由佳, Takaoka Yuka, born January 28, 1998) is a Japanese woman known for having stabbed her alleged boyfriend with a kitchen knife in her apartment in May 2019. She was found guilty of attempted murder in December 2019 and sentenced to 3+1⁄2 years in prison.   Show Notes and credits :  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiQ56nYt8ODAxWGUkEAHc7uCtgQFnoECBIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DEc08A4fGeaQ&usg=AOvVaw3P_JcLzI2MfjU830yvF8aw&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiQ56nYt8ODAxWGUkEAHc7uCtgQFnoECAgQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fin%2Fpodcast%2Freal-life-yandere-obsessed-fan-went-viral-for-murder%2Fid1682504024%3Fi%3D1000632198723&usg=AOvVaw1YA3Se-Oe2-AiEVsWzazNI&opi=89978449 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuka_Takaoka https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi1nqW9t8ODAxW4Q0EAHSZbCVg4ChAWegQIHBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FStephanieSooStories%2Fcomments%2F17rhz03%2Fyuka_takaoka_is_out_of_jail_and_posted_this_to%2F&usg=AOvVaw3rR9zMNaJGeqY5ZGlYIGdG&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiLh4HMt8ODAxUgT0EAHRlGAM44FBAWegQIBxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.news.com.au%2Flifestyle%2Freal-life%2Ftoo-beautiful-attempted-murder-suspect-becomes-internet-sensation%2Fnews-story%2Fca733ee8b8412edb69ba49ed323a1c47&usg=AOvVaw2KfMlmfBl-fJWri6VKTxrB&opi=89978449  

Pedro Rodrigues Filho (29 October 1954 – 5 March 2023), also known as Pedrinho Matador,   S narrates this episode.  Brazilian serial killer, spree killer, and vigilante known for pursuing and killing exclusively suspected criminals as a teenager, between the age of 14 and 19, in particular an entire gang in response to the murder of his pregnant girlfriend. Officially sentenced for 71 murders but claiming to have killed over 100 drug dealers, rapists, and murderers, he served 34 years in prison (about 25 weeks per murder) before his release in 2007. In 2011, Rodrigues was imprisoned again on charges of inciting riot and deprivation of liberty; he was sentenced to eight years in prison, but was released again in 2018 after seven years on good behavior. Since his second release from prison in 2018, after announcing himself to be reformed from his self-declared vigilantism as a youth, and committed to not committing any more crimes, Rodrigues was considered a Brazilian celebrity and YouTuber, maintaining a YouTube channel called Pedrinho EX Matador, commenting on modern crimes while educating the public that criminal acts are not something to be proud of.   Shownotes and credits: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiWke_c-bSDAxUZQUEAHcFHD6kQFnoECCIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPedro_Rodrigues_Filho&usg=AOvVaw3LPx31Yx-8ng2Sl-w1LSY2&opi=89978449      

This is part 2 - it got a little spicy. The Q and A continues and we are also introduced to S’s alter ego “verushka” who has no business joining in but she just does and says whatever she wants.   

WHAT THE LAW ? with Cupcake   In this episode S and B ask Cupcake some questions about how the law works in South Africa. 

If you were ever wandering what gets deleted out of our episodes, we have compiled a few deleted scenes. Enjoy