On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Rebekah Hannah, not as our usual co-host, but as a special guest to discuss her leadership journey and the upcoming Women in Leadership cohort offered by Anchored Virtual starting in September. We explore how this cohort creates a space for women serving in various leadership roles to come together, find encouragement, and receive valuable teaching.
Becca shares her diverse leadership roles - from being President and CEO of Anchored Virtual to serving as Director of Kids and Families at Redeemer Lincoln Square in New York City, teaching as an adjunct professor at Baylor University, and balancing family life with three children.
We discuss the unique challenges women face in leadership, particularly in predominantly male-led spaces, and how maintaining confidence in Christ rather than position or approval from others has helped Becca navigate these environments.
The conversation concludes with details about the eight-week Women in Leadership cohort starting September 10th, featuring speakers like Alicia Britt Chole, Eliza Huey, Glenna Marshall, Ellen Dykes, Elyse Fitzpatrick, Eric Schumacher, Jared Wilson, and Kelly Kapic - each addressing crucial aspects of leadership from spiritual health to navigating challenges.
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Unlock your leadership potential with the Women in Leadership Cohort—an empowering 8‑week online program designed for women ready to lead with confidence. Experience weekly leadership training, mentorship, and counselor‑led small groups in a supportive community of driven women. Step into your calling, strengthen your skills, and connect with like‑minded leaders.
For more information visit anchoredvirtual.com/womens-cohort
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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For more information about Anchored Virtual, visit anchoredvirtual.com
On this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Dr. Nate Brooks about navigating the tension between honesty and cynicism when dealing with chronic illness. We discuss how the church often struggles to address the realities of chronic pain in authentic ways, sometimes offering shallow platitudes rather than genuine understanding. Dr. Brooks, an associate professor at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary and founder of Courage Christian Counseling, shares insights from his book "Disrupted Journey" and his personal experience walking alongside his wife through chronic illness.
We explore what makes questioning faithful versus unfaithful, how to express raw emotions without sliding into nihilism, and the challenging process of renegotiating relationships when chronic illness changes everything. Dr. Brooks offers a fascinating framework of "key card access levels" for understanding how different relationships can handle different levels of vulnerability during difficult seasons.
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Unlock your leadership potential with the Women in Leadership Cohort—an empowering 8‑week online program designed for women ready to lead with confidence. Experience weekly leadership training, mentorship, and counselor‑led small groups in a supportive community of driven women. Step into your calling, strengthen your skills, and connect with like‑minded leaders.
For more information visit anchoredvirtual.com/womens-cohort
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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For more information about Anchored Virtual, visit anchoredvirtual.com
On this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Harrison Scott Key, author of the incredibly popular book "How To Stay Married" as well as "Congratulations, Who Are You Again?" and "The World's Largest Man" (winner of the Thurber Prize for American Humor).
We explore the theme of fairytale versus real marriage through Harrison's raw, honest, and often humorous account of marital betrayal. Harrison shares his journey of discovering his wife was in love with their neighbor, the separation that followed, and the challenging path to reconciliation. We discuss how he transformed this painful experience into a book, including his wife's perspective, and examine how his simple, naive expectations of marriage collided with the complex reality of betrayal and forgiveness.
This fascinating conversation reveals the universal aspects of marriage through Harrison's particular story of heartbreak and ultimately, hope.
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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For more information about Anchored Virtual, visit anchoredvirtual.com
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the profound topic of rejection and how we respond to it with our special guest Tabitha Panariso. We dive into the contrast between hiding and being held when facing rejection in our lives. Tabitha, a licensed professional counselor, writer, and speaker, shares her personal journey with rejection and how these experiences shaped her identity.
We discuss why rejection leaves us feeling so helpless and confused, examining how our sense of belonging intertwines with our identity. Tabitha reveals how her own healing journey involved recognizing deeply rooted wounds, seeking therapy, and ultimately shifting from an "I am rejected" narrative to an "I am loved" perspective.
The conversation explores why it's difficult to turn to Christ after experiencing rejection, how we often project our human relationships onto our relationship with God, and practical ways to invite Jesus into our places of hiding. Tabitha also shares her approach to building sustainable spiritual rhythms through daily curiosity and reframing questions.
We also examine the powerful intersection of Christ-centered and trauma-informed counseling, discussing how therapists can serve as conduits of God's love to help people experience healing and freedom from past wounds.
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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For more information about Anchored Virtual, visit anchoredvirtual.com
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the relationship between the church and outside counseling resources. Our guest, Garrett Higbee, shares his extensive experience as founder of 12 Stones and president of Soul Care Consulting International.
We discuss the challenges churches face when navigating the counseling world, from concerns about liability to questions about theological alignment. Garrett offers insights on how counseling organizations can better partner with local churches, describing the ideal parachurch organization as "an attendant to the bride" rather than a replacement. We also examine ways to redefine biblical counseling as part of discipleship rather than adopting secular therapeutic models.
Throughout our conversation, we emphasize the importance of creating a culture of compassionate care within churches while acknowledging when specialized help is needed.
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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For more information about Anchored Virtual, visit anchoredvirtual.com
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the topic of nourished souls vs. starved souls with guest Kristen Wetherell, author of "Help for the Hungry Soul."
We discuss why Christians sometimes lose their appetite for God's Word and how to recognize the signs of spiritual malnourishment. Kristen shares personal insights about her own struggles with treating Bible reading as a checklist rather than an encounter with Jesus.
We examine how disordered desires and our culture of distraction affect our spiritual appetite, while also exploring practical ways to renew our hunger for Scripture—including changing our routines, seeking community perspectives, and relying on the Holy Spirit rather than our own determination.
Join us for this honest conversation about developing sustainable spiritual habits that move beyond mere duty to genuine delight.
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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For more information about Anchored Virtual, visit anchoredvirtual.com
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the tension between accepting limitations and neglecting responsibility with Kelly Kapic, Professor of Theological Studies at Covenant College. Kelly, author of "Your Only Human" and the upcoming devotional "You Were Never Meant To Do It All," shares his personal struggles with productivity culture and the constant pressure to do more.
We discuss how human dependency—on God, other people, and creation—was designed as a good thing before the fall, not a consequence of sin. Kelly offers insights on how we can embrace our limitations without abandoning our responsibilities, and how both over-responsible and under-responsible attitudes diminish God's design for us.
The conversation takes us from theological perspectives on human limitations to practical applications for dealing with global suffering and local ministry opportunities. We explore how it takes the entire church, not just individuals, to be the body of Christ, and why trying to carry the weight of the world's problems alone is neither sustainable nor biblical.
On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Kyle Worley, founder and lead pastor of Mosaic Church in Richardson, Texas. We explore the profound concept of our identity in Christ and what it means to be adopted as children of God. Kyle unpacks how our relationship with God as Father transcends mere acquittal from a holy judge—it's an invitation into a family where we are welcomed and delighted in despite our unworthiness. We discuss the struggle many Christians face in accepting this gift of grace and how to overcome the hurdle of feeling undeserving. Kyle shares powerful insights from his book and leaves us with the transformative truth that if we have God's presence, we have everything we need.
Books Mentioned:
Home with God: Our Union with Christ – Kyle Worley
After Virtue – Alasdair MacIntyre
One with My Lord – Sam Allberry
The Christian Life – Sinclair Ferguson
A Gospel Primer for Christians – Milton Vincent
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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For more information about Anchored Virtual, visit anchoredvirtual.com
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the critical distinction between pastoral care and counseling with Dr. Jeremy Pierre. We dive into how these two forms of care overlap and where they differ, examining the unique role each plays in the spiritual formation of believers.
Drawing from his 22 years of experience as both a pastor and professor, Dr. Pierre helps us understand how counseling serves as a specific tool within the broader context of pastoral care.
We discuss why counseling is "problem-initiated" rather than just one-on-one discipleship, and explore how churches can effectively partner with counseling organizations while maintaining the primacy of the local church.
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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For more information about Anchored Virtual, visit anchoredvirtual.com
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the concept of whole body theology and how it differs from the body positivity movement with bestselling author Lisa Whittle. We discuss her forthcoming book Body and Soul, which takes a biblical look at how God created us to be whole persons - body and soul.
We examine why simply having good feelings about our bodies isn't enough, and how understanding Christ's incarnation and "glorious exchange" provides a deeper foundation for how we view and treat our bodies. Through this conversation, we discover how whole body theology offers a path to true freedom that goes beyond cultural messages about body image, leading to a life lived for God's glory rather than appearance.
Book Resources Mentioned:
Body and Soul by Lisa Whittle
Jesus Over Everything by Lisa Whittle
The Hard Good by Lisa Whittle
Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund
Joni: An Unforgettable Story by Joni Eareckson Tada
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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For more information about Anchored Virtual, visit anchoredvirtual.com
On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Eric Schumacher to explore the profound concept of weakness in Christian life. We discuss how recognizing our limitations and dependence on God's grace can lead to greater freedom and spiritual growth.
Eric shares personal insights from his latest book, addressing the paradox of working diligently while maintaining complete reliance on God's strength.
We examine how understanding our weakness doesn't eliminate it, but rather transforms our perspective on dependence, grief, and human limitations.
Book Resources Mention:
The Good Gift of Weakness by Eric Schumacher - A lay-level biblical theology examining weakness from Genesis to Revelation
He Is Strong: Devotions for When You Feel Weak by Emily Jensen - 30 devotional readings about finding strength in Christ during times of weakness
Strong and Weak by Andy Crouch - Explores vulnerability and authority in relation to vocation and work
Glorious Weakness by Alia Joy - A memoir examining poverty and hardship through the lens of God's power in weakness
You're Only Human by Kelly Kapic - Focuses on human limitations with practical applications
Weakness Is the Way by J.I. Packer - An examination of weakness from Packer's personal experience
The Freedom of Self-Forgetfulness by Tim Keller - Referenced during the discussion about finding freedom in Christ
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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For more information about Anchored Virtual, visit anchoredvirtual.com
On this episode of This vs. That, we tackle the complex balance between church and family priorities in ministry life. We welcome special guests Jenna Allen and Stephanie Gilbert from Pastors' Wives Tell All who share raw, honest perspectives about navigating the demands of church leadership while protecting family wellbeing. Through candid conversation, we explore how to set healthy boundaries, support children in ministry families, and handle expectations from congregations. Our guests offer practical wisdom about making tough choices when church and family needs conflict, and share how their approaches have evolved over years in ministry.
The episode concludes with rapid-fire advice for pastors, their spouses, church staff, and congregations, along with valuable resource recommendations for ministry families. Join us for this insightful discussion about finding balance in the intersection of church leadership and family life.
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In this episode we mention The Pastors' Wives Cohort from Anchored Virtual - an eight-week virtual program offering weekly teachings and counselor-led small groups, creating a supportive space to navigate ministry life together.
For more information about the cohort visit www.anchoredvirtual.com/cohort
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana.
This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith.
Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at anchoredvirtual.com/tgc
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore how to effectively help those suffering from depression without unintentionally causing more harm. Our guest Kathryn Butler, a former trauma surgeon turned writer, shares her unique perspective from both sides of depression - as a medical professional and as someone who has experienced it personally.
We discuss the complexities of depression, including its various causes and manifestations, the role of antidepressants, and how to approach Scripture in ways that offer genuine comfort rather than quick fixes. Kathryn shares powerful insights about the deadening of joy that comes with depression and offers practical wisdom for both sufferers and those walking alongside them.
Through our conversation, we explore how the church can better understand depression as both a spiritual and physical reality, moving beyond simplistic solutions to offer Christ-centered hope and presence to those who struggle.
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana.
This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith.
Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at anchoredvirtual.com/tgc
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the tension between hope and despair in the face of evil with guest Collin Hansen, vice president and editor-in-chief of The Gospel Coalition. We tackle one of Christianity's most challenging questions: Where is God in a world of suffering?
Collin shares insights from his forthcoming book and his years of wrestling with difficult questions of faith. We discuss practical ways to cultivate resilient hope and challenge common misconceptions Christians have when responding to suffering. Together, we explore how technology and media affect our perception of evil, the role of lament in corporate worship, and the importance of building genuine hope rather than shallow optimism in our churches.
Through examining biblical examples and modern challenges, we discover how to maintain hope without minimizing the reality of suffering, and why the physical gathering of God's people remains irreplaceable in cultivating lasting hope.
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana.
This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith.
Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at anchoredvirtual.com/tgc
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the challenging balance between anxious parenting vs. parenting with hope. We're joined by author and speaker Melissa Kruger, who brings wisdom and practical insights to this important conversation.
We discuss how parental anxiety manifests in different seasons - from checking if babies are breathing to teaching teens to drive. We examine how social media amplifies parenting pressures and the overwhelming number of choices modern parents face.
Through personal stories and biblical wisdom, we unpack how anxiety can shape our reactions to everyday situations and explore the difference between normal parental concern and anxiety that controls our homes. Melissa shares her journey of prioritizing spiritual disciplines as anchors in parenting and reminds us that our children's journey doesn't end at 18.
If you've ever found yourself lying awake wondering if you're doing enough as a parent, this conversation offers hope and practical wisdom for the journey.
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana.
This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith.
Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at anchoredvirtual.com/tgc
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the important distinction between practical theology and prideful theology with guest Wendy Alsup, author and math professor.
We discuss how true theology should lead to humility and practical life changes, while examining why theological discussions sometimes become prideful and condescending. Through personal stories and biblical wisdom, we unpack how genuine knowledge of God naturally results in humility and transformed lives.
Together, we consider ways to foster meaningful theological discussions that build up the church rather than create division, and explore how our understanding of God directly shapes our daily actions and emotions.
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana.
This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith.
Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at anchoredvirtual.com/tgc
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the complex relationship between neglecting and embracing emotions with Joe Hussung, Director of Ministry Partnership and Senior Counselor atFieldstone Counseling. Our conversation examines the role of emotions in the Christian life, cultural differences in emotional expression, and how the Bible speaks to our emotional experiences.
Joe brings unique insights from his doctoral work on empathy, his personal journey with anxiety, and his extensive counseling experience. We discuss how different cultural backgrounds, including religious traditions, shape our emotional responses. Through examining Biblical examples, particularly the Psalms, we explore how Scripture provides guidance for understanding and expressing our emotions in healthy ways.
The conversation also addresses practical challenges like managing emotions in our busy modern lives and finding ways to stay emotionally present while navigating demanding schedules. Joe's upcoming bookLearning to Listen: Essential Skills for Every Counselor releases March 24th.
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana.
This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith.
Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now atanchoredvirtual.com/tgc
On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the fascinating topic of good stress versus bad stress with our guest Eliza Huie, Director of Counseling at McLean Bible Church and biblical counseling instructor at Reform Theological Seminary.
We discuss how certain types of stress can actually be beneficial for growth and motivation, while other forms can be detrimental to our wellbeing. Drawing from her expertise as a licensed professional counselor and author of "I'm Stressed: A Path from Pressure to Peace," we examine the differences between "eustress" (good stress) and "distress" (bad stress).
We also explore how stress can strengthen us physically, mentally, and spiritually, while uncovering practical ways to manage and understand the role of stress in our daily lives.
Resources Mentioned:
Trauma Aware: A Christian’s Guide to Providing Help and Care by Eliza Huie
I’m Stressed: A Path from Pressure to Peace by Eliza Huie
Knowing God by Jerry Bridges
Why Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers by Robert M. Sapolsky
Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers by Dane Ortlund
The Knowledge of the Holy by A.W. Tozer
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
To listen search for Consult the Counselor wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana.
This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith.
Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at anchoredvirtual.com/tgc
On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Robert Cheong, founder of Gospel Care Ministries and former pastor of care at Sojourn Church Midtown.
We explore the critical distinction between normal ministry tiredness and burnout, discussing how we can recognize the signs when regular exhaustion begins shifting toward burnout.
Drawing from his extensive pastoral experience, Robert shares valuable insights on maintaining healthy rhythms in ministry and understanding the challenges faced by church leaders today.
Whether you're in vocational ministry, serving in your local church, or simply want to support those in ministry, this conversation offers practical wisdom for navigating the complexities of spiritual leadership while maintaining personal well-being.
Resources Mentioned
Restoration Story: Why Jesus Matters in a Broken World – Robert Cheong
Restore: Changing How We Live and Love – Robert Cheong
God Redeeming His Bride: A Handbook for Church Discipline – Robert Cheong
Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers – Dane Ortlund
You’re Only Human: How Your Limits Reflect God’s Design and Why That’s Good News – Kelly Kapic
The Unwavering Pastor: Leading the Church with Grace in Divisive Times – Jonathan Dodson
A Praying Life: Connecting with God in a Distracting World – Paul E. Miller
Abide in Christ – Andrew Murray
The Night Is Normal: A Guide Through Spiritual Pain – Alicia Britt Chole
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Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana.
This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith.
Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at anchoredvirtual.com/tgc
On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Toni Collier, founder of Broken Crayons Still Color. We explore the powerful contrast between hiding vs. healing, as Toni shares her journey from a challenging childhood to becoming an author and speaker. We discuss what it truly means to heal, the importance of being honest with our pain, and how we can find hope and security in Christ even when life falls apart. With raw authenticity, Toni helps us understand that healing isn't about erasing our pain, but rather increasing our capacity to hold it while walking in faith.
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We're really excited to tell you about Anchored Virtual's new podcast, Consult the Counselor. There are very few spaces that are designed for long form conversations on difficult counseling topics. On Consult a Counselor, that's what we want to provide.
In each episode, we invite two of our counselors at Anchored Virtual into a deep dive conversation on a counseling topic. Once a month, we'll release episodes on issues such as addictions, trauma, church hurt, infertility, forgiveness, abuse, and more. You'll get to hear expert counselors discuss the nuances and challenges of these issues and ultimately apply the hope of the gospel in practical and meaningful ways.
The first episode drops February 1st. I hope you'll join us.
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Have you ever experienced the pain of church hurt? Whether it's disappointment caused by leaders, hurtful actions from fellow members, or wounds from the larger church community, these experiences can leave us wondering why we should stay. Join us for Finding Purpose and the Pain of Church Hurt, an auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana.
This special session will take place on Wednesday, April 23rd from 4:45 to 6 p. m. hosted by Anchored Virtual. Join Rebekah Hannah, Dr. Michael Keller, and Dr. Michael Kruger, as they explore how God can transform even the deepest wounds into growth, resilience, and renewed faith.
Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this session will speak to anyone navigating the hard realities of church hurt. Join us online or in person. You can register now at anchoredvirtual.com/tgc
