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Welcome to episode 273 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
Hold on to your hats here, cos we’re actually talking about running (sorry about that) with a bit of a recap of our recent running, and the stats we’re served afterwards, and what it all means.
We also talk about how to flex our training when life is getting busy, and also how we’re coping with shorter days and darker evenings and mornings. While we get ourselves a bit cross and shouty here, don’t be put off and listen right through to the end for the mother of all emails – in terms of fun pod stories, we believe we have a gold medallist.
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Welcome to the second series of Am I Nuts. This is the second episode in a series of ten weekly podcasts from us at the Women’s Running podcast. I am your host Esther Newman, and she is your other host Holly Taylor.
In this series, we wanted to explore some of the things that we’ve talked about on our big podcast – that’s the Women’s Running podcast – that don’t necessarily have anything to do with running. Hol and I are natural born worriers, and we’ve realized that in almost every episode, we talk about at least one of those worries – and we also realized that with many of them, we’ve thought we were the only ones. We thought we were nuts. If you have something you think we should talk about, then please email us at wrpodcast@anthem.co.uk
In this second episode, we’re getting our knickers in a twist about strength training. Should we all be doing it? Are we doing enough? And what should we be doing if we’ve never done it?
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Welcome to episode 272 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
We’re talking about the most important thing on our minds at the moment, and that’s obviously Celebrity Traitors. Spoilers are here, if you’ve been saving it up to watch at another time, so be warned. But then we start talking about the running we’re doing and the races we’re looking forward to. I fancy taking on a huge race next year – who’s with me?
Then we’re on to a contentious subject that I’d read about: is depression more prevalent in runners who complete multiple marathons? If so, why? It’s a headline designed to get us cross, but we have a lot of thoughts about it. Pretty sure you will have too – get in touch at wrpodcast@anthem.co.uk with your take on it all.
We also mention the release of Am I Nuts series 2, which we’re very excited about, and we get it completely wrong! While yes, the series is out this week, we are NOT talking about strength training, we’re talking about protein! Do please go and have a listen to it and tell us what you think
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The Guardian article that started our conversation
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Welcome to Am I Nuts. This is the first episode in our second series of ten weekly podcasts from us at the Women’s Running podcast. I am your host Esther Newman, and she is your other host Holly Taylor.
In this series, we wanted to explore some of the things that we’ve talked about on our big podcast – that’s the Women’s Running podcast – that don’t necessarily have anything to do with running. Hol and I are natural born worriers, and we’ve realized that in almost every episode, we talk about at least one of those worries – and we also realized that with many of them, we’ve thought we were the only ones. We thought we were nuts.
In series one, we talked about everything from cancer to sugar. This series, we’ve got another mixed bag. If you have something you think we should talk about, then please email us at wrpodcast@anthem.co.uk
In this first episode, we’re dealing with a biggie, and we’re pretty sure we’re not alone here. Are we nuts for worrying about not eating enough protein?
Thank you so much for listening. Do please like and subscribe, so that you’ll be first to know when the next episode in this special series drops
Am I Nuts has been brought to you by the Women’s Running podcast – do please check it out wherever you listen to your podcasts for longer episodes to keep you company while you run. And if running is your thing, or you’d like it to be your thing, check out Women’s Running magazine – right now you can save up to 50% off the cover price. Just go to shop.womensrunning.co.uk to find out more.
And if you want a fantastic guide to protein, including 30 simple high protein recipes, you can still buy 30 Days to Increase Your Protein for just a smidge under a tenner.
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Welcome to episode 271 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
Holly has been on her very exotic travels to the Body Holiday in St Lucia, and she has many tales to tell. Many. Honestly, she only gets off the plane at about 20 minutes in because of all the new friends she’s made. We all know what she’s like, right? So she’s had a jolly old time, training with an Olympian and is giddy with it all. Even unsociable me is desperate to go, especially now it’s gone full-on UK winter weather. Shall we all go next year….?
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· Holly had an incredible stay at The Body Holiday in St Lucia, training with Julien Alfred
· check out Maaree’s lovely range of bras, specifically the Empower in a beautiful pink, from which they’re donating 10% of the profits to Coppafeel
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Welcome to episode 270 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
Holly is actually in St Lucia this week, but we pre-recorded so you don’t have to worry about missing her lovely voice. We have an update on the whole plumbing situation, which we know you must be very worried about. This leads into some nasty poo chat, so be warned.
But the main event in this episode, is our October cover star, Lavina Mehta MBE. We talk to her about her book, The Feel Good Fix, and her mission to encourage everyone to move a little more – in fact, for just 11 minutes a day through something she calls ‘exercise snacking’, which we really like the sound of. We talk squats while the kettle boils, calf raises on zoom calls, and perimenopause when you least expect it.
We come back afterwards to talk about marathon recovery, specifically about lung function. It has occurred to me that running long distances can really affect my asthmatic lungs, and my spot of google research has underlined this.
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· Pick up Lavina’s book The Feel Good Fix
· Also check out Maaree’s lovely range of bras, specifically the Empower in a beautiful pink, from which they’re donating 10% of the profits to Coppafeel
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Welcome to episode 269 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
Apols to all for a slightly scatalogical start to the pod, but I’m a tiny bit traumatised by my plumbing (not a euphemism), so you’ll have to bear with.
Eventually I get into my race report – I ran the Trail Escape Bristol to Bath marathon at the weekend and I have a LOT of thoughts about it. It was absolutely brilliant!
One thing I fail to mention in my report is a podsquadder I met at the finish line – so a quick shout out to the lovely Rosie, thank you for coming to say hello. She was a total hero who had signed up to the event, had become ill, and decided to volunteer for it instead – the best kind of person.
And Holly is off on her travels next week, on a very exciting trip indeed. She talks about training with Olympians and bikini-shopping. We’ll find out more in a couple of pods’ time.
Before I forget, do please vote for us in the Running Industry Awards – there are lots of categories and lots of brilliant people to vote for, including us, so it’s worth hopping on to the site to register your vote for everyone you love (not just us). But if you *did* find yourself there and wanted to vote for us, we would be thrilled, honoured, and would hug you all. (um, that’s the Running Industry Awards, link in the show notes, or just a swift google should bring up the page, google fans).
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Welcome to episode 268 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
I’ve come back from the Circuit of Bath, which is organised by Bath homelessness charity Julian House. This was 20 miles circumnavigating the city, taking in all the beautiful sights, and let this be a lesson to us all: 20 miles at a slow trot is WAY easier than 13 miles in a race!
But speaking of races, we get on to our 2026 goals – what on EARTH is Hol going to do? That’s the question on everyone’s lips.
I talk about a couple of bizarre perimenopausal symptoms that I’ve been experiencing, one of which has completely blown my mind as I would never have realised it was anything to do with menopause without deciding to google it. Ugh. Please let me know your weirdest menopausal symptoms.
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· I ran the Circuit of Bath for Julian House
· I’m also going to be running the Trail Escape Bristol to Bath
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Welcome to episode 267 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
Today we’re talking about university life, and how it has changed from when we were there. We talk about empty nesting, and the heartache as well as the small blessings that it affords. Lots of love to all of you going through this right now.
Hol has been doing a sterling job at the Take the Baton conference interviewing the legendary Kathrine Switzer and getting lots of behind the scenes knowledge about that day in Boston.
We get back on to the thorny subject of when we stop our Garmins / Strava when we’re racing – do let us know your thoughts. What I’m trying to say is that I feel like I’m somehow cheating if I stop before the finish line, but also that I want to show off about the distance – so if I stop at 26.2 but run 27.2, did that final mile even count?
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· I’m going to be running the Circuit of Bath for Julian House
· I’m also going to be running the Trail Escape Bristol to Bath
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Welcome to episode 266 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
We are debriefing our half marathon at Westonbirt with Relish Running. I’d started my race weekend on the wrong foot, by going to a beer festival the night before, which might have had a slight impact on my performance.
We talk about that and all our little mishaps en route to the start line. But from that slightly ropey start, we’re then on to the race itself, how we had prepared for it (very differently) and how it felt along the way. Hol fesses up about her actual race goal.
Also – big question: do you stop your watch when you reach the end of the race, or when your watch tells you you’ve run the distance? Big old controversy ahead here!
If you aren’t a patron yet do join us on Patreon for just £2 a month, through which you can join Discord, our forum just for you, our gorgeous Pod Squad, to meet up, chat about running, TV, books, menopause, and anything else you like. You also get to come along to our Live Pods! To get access to Discord, all you need to do is head to patreon.com/womensrunning and join us for just £2 a month.
· Get your tickets to the Get the Baton conference, so you can witness Holly chatting to the legendary Kathrine Switzer on 13th September
· Check out the races on offer from Relish Running
· I’m going to be running the Circuit of Bath for Julian House
· I’m also going to be running the Trail Escape Bristol to Bath
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Welcome to episode 265 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
We need to discuss a lot of things this episode cos we’ve not seen each other for a fortnight and we’ve missed each other! So, obviously, we begin with some silly stuff about Joe Wicks.
And then we’re on to holidays, festivals, awful toilets, dog-sitting, and the correct way to eat a Jaffa cake.
We eventually move on to the race that we’re doing this weekend – the Westonbirt Half with Relish Running. Neither of us feel fully prepared, but we are determined to have a good time. Race report next episode!
If you aren’t a patron yet do join us on Patreon for just £2 a month, through which you can join Discord, our forum just for you, our gorgeous Pod Squad, to meet up, chat about running, TV, books, menopause, and anything else you like. You also get to come along to our Live Pods! To get access to Discord, all you need to do is head to patreon.com/womensrunning and join us for just £2 a month.
And one last thing! Holly is interviewing the legendary Kathrine Switzer at the Take the Baton conference just outside of Oxford on 13th September. It’s an not to be missed event, and there are only a few tickets left. Grab yours from 261clubuk.co.uk or follow the link in the show notes.
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Welcome to episode 264 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
We’re prepping for our September races with a healthy chunk of maranoia and shoe concerns.
We perk ourselves up with a chat with two-time Winter Olympian Aimee Fuller, our September cover star. Aimee started skiing at the age of 4, before moving into motocross and then Snowboarding. She says she’s not an adrenaline junkie, but we beg to differ! She talks about how she got into running by using it as a way to clear her head when she was travelling, and what happened when she decided to run her very first marathon.
We come back after our chat with Aimee to talk about two huge things: toenails and marathons. My toenail has decided to escape to the great sock draw in the sky, and I am slightly traumatised as a result. Hol tries to make me feel better about it but nothing’s working until I get distracted by trying to pin her down on which marathon she’s going to run next.
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Welcome to episode 263 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
We start off quite sedately talking about training stresses, and adjusting our running when it’s just not going well. But we quickly move into unchartered waters with a chat with Mari from Maaree bras. She talks to us about how to tell if our bra fits us, and why it’s so important for runners to be wearing the correct fitting bra. And then she shakes our worlds by measuring us for bras over video call (no boobs were flashed in the making of this podcast). We were so looking forward to this, and were rewarded with some very unexpected numbers.
We then come back afterwards to talk about a surprising and very exciting email I received before I went on holiday, and a parcel I received as a result. I don’t want to give too much away, but in the interests of hopefully dissuading our parents from listening, the initial email was from Lovehoney, the sexual wellness company, and it was something to do with hydration. And if that doesn’t pique your interest, nothing will.
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Welcome to episode 262 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
This starts off as one of those therapy episodes. We launch into a lack of jolliness and motivation in the middle of summer, while we’re trying to navigate weather that doesn’t feel too brilliant (don’t worry, we perk up fairly quickly!). We talk about how we’re adapting our training plans to fit us and the weather, rather than adhering to them religiously.
We also discuss the summer juggle, and how we’re managing the feeling of overwhelm. One way, of course, has been to celebrate the Euro’s, so we chat about women’s Football, and how brilliant these role models are for kids.
Speaking of which, we feel we need to continue our chats about PE lessons – there’s more from you lot, which is fascinating, and we have some ideas for new PE lessons in the future, and I think we’re on to something!
At the end, Holly talks about the very exciting thing she’s doing on 13th September, when she’ll be interviewing the legendary Kathrine Switzer at the Take the Baton conference. Make sure you pick up your tickets to go and watch! Google the Get The Baton conference if the link doesn’t work in the show notes!
Lovely extra bits
· Get your tickets to the Get the Baton conference, so you can witness Holly chatting to the legendary Kathrine Switzer on 13th September
· Find your perfect holiday wetsuit from Orca
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Welcome to episode 261 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
We start with some hot service station chat, and also some controversial service station chat. But then we quickly move on to the highlight of Holly’s holiday (that’s hard to say) in Berlin, which is something she would always do, but something I would never do. I’ll leave you to guess what it is.
We talk about my Cornish holiday and my new wetsuit. If you fancy finding wetsuits a joy rather than a trauma, then check out the range at Orca. Mine is a beautiful orange thing and I love it more than my children.
We do eventually get around to running – we’ve both been doing a bit of escapism on our holidays, which I thoroughly recommend. But even though I’ve been escaping, I’ve still got a lot to complain about. Don’t cancel us just because I’m horrible about pretty much everyone, I think it’s hormonal.
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Lovely extra bits
· Find your perfect holiday wetsuit from Orca
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Welcome to episode 260 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
In this episode we’re joined by Renee McGregor, who as well as many other amazing things, is our August cover star – make sure you pick up a copy of Women’s Running from all good shops now to read our interview with her. Renee is a world renowned sport nutritionist and eating disorder specialist, she’s an ultra runner and a trustee of Black Trail Runners. Author of Fuel for Thought.
We chat to her about some of the themes we were talking about a few weeks ago: about how runners can fuel themselves well, warning signs to look out for in terms of getting the balance between training and fuelling right, and the complexity of figuring this out when you’re going through perimenopause. We also touch on how things have changed for women; how society influences our view of ourselves and our shapes, and the impact of weightloss jabs. It’s one of those must-listen episodes.
If you aren’t a patron yet do join us on Patreon for just £2 a month, through which you can join Discord, our forum just for you, our gorgeous Pod Squad, to meet up, chat about running, TV, books, menopause, and anything else you like. You also get to come along to our Live Pods! To get access to Discord, all you need to do is head to patreon.com/womensrunning and join us for just £2 a month.
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Welcome to episode 259 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
Today we’re talking about how we’re managing our running in the recent heatwave at the beginning of July. And we have *some* resolution to the – I’m sure by now – extremely dull London Marathon chat.
We need to remind you at this point that if you’re up for running the Bath Half with us in March next year, do please sign up, because if you do, you can then come and join us at our live event the night before, which will be filled with fun and giggles and perhaps a few tips on how to survive the Half the following day. Make sure you pick up your tickets to come and see us (they’re only a tenner) from Eventbrite. Google Women’s Running Bath Half event if the link doesn’t work!
I also bring up a controversy – tell us what you think about marathons having time penalties if they’ve got lots of downhill! Then we get on to PE at school – what are your experiences, what do you think of the PE provision we have these days for kids?
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Welcome to episode 258 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
After a lot of blather about cordless vacuum cleaners (it’s the content you’ve been crying out for) we talk about our pace and fitness dropping off post-marathon. We also talk about the difficulty of trying to create goals that aren’t necessarily about pace.
We then move on to the gym, exploring the differences in experience and price for a gym memberships. There’s a HUGE variety, which we sort of knew, but goodness, not everyone is paying 30 quid a month, it turns out! Then we move on to gym class intimidation or gymtimidation if you will. And we lead into children and sport, and the concept of being “good at sport” – something we’ll get back into in a forthcoming pod. We thought there was nothing to talk about, but it turns out that there’s a lot!
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Welcome to episode 257 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
We’re still debating whether or not we should do the London marathon - yawn. We talk about regrets from our 2025 marathon, and what we’d do differently. We also chat about sports watches – Holly is just tipping into the possibility of actually committing to one.
Our sandwich filling this issue is Laura Fountain, part of the WR family, friend of the pod, Run Tester, and run coach, and many more qualifications besides. We wanted to drag her on this issue cos Hol is very interested in Hyrox, and Laura not only knows what it is, she’s actually done one, and has all the info and lots of thoughts on who else should participate. She tells us it’s way more inclusive than it sounds, and that it’s brilliant for women, despite what you might see on social media. It still hasn’t quite pushed it into must-do for me, but Hol still remains Hy-curious.
Oh and spoiler: Holly’s Lemsip did NOT work, as you’ll discover in the next episode.
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Welcome to episode 256 of the Women’s Running podcast. I’m your host Esther Newman and she’s your other host Holly Taylor. On this podcast we talk about health, politics, stuff on TV and what we ate last night. Occasionally, we talk about running.
We’ve got a bit of a Glasto recap, and then we’re talking about surviving the heat – how running makes us feel in this weather, and how we need to listen to our heart rates.
We revisit our London Marathon chat – should we or shouldn’t we? Holly is still undecided, I’m beginning to be swayed… We’ve had lots of messages from you guys telling us what you think about us running it, but also about how you feel about media places at the London Marathon. All very interesting, and we don’t feel told off, which of course is the main thing.
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