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The Three Bells
Global Cultural Districts Network (GCDN)
69 episodes
1 week ago
Hello and welcome to The Three Bells – a podcast in which we explore the challenges and opportunities waiting for us at the intersection of culture and urbanism…
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Hello and welcome to The Three Bells – a podcast in which we explore the challenges and opportunities waiting for us at the intersection of culture and urbanism…
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The Three Bells
From natural talent to creative economy… Andrea Dempster Chung, CoFounder & Executive Director, Kingston Creative

Our host, Stephanie Fortunato speaks with Andrea Dempster Chung, Co-Founder & Executive Director of Kingston Creative, about their long-term strategy to build a cultural district in downtown Kingston – and what it takes to turn natural talent into a thriving creative ecosystem.

External references: 

  • Kingston Creative – the official site of the initiative.
  • Paint the City – a large-scale mural programme aimed at beautifying downtown Kingston and supporting local artists.
  • Artwalk Kingston – monthly activation by Kingston Creative in downtown Kingston.
  • CreateTech Caribbean – a regional programme launched by Kingston Creative to support creative entrepreneurs through training and access to finance.
  • Climate Change Art Park – a public art project by Camille Chedda developed in collaboration with GCDN and Alserkal Advisory as part of A Feral Commons.

About the guest:
Andrea Dempster Chung, is an engineer, entrepreneur and executive. She is the Cofounder and Executive Director of Kingston Creative an organisation seeking to transform Downtown; the founder of Bookophilia, a bookstore that promotes Caribbean literature and the founder of Go Global Art, an art marketing platform which helps artists from developing countries gain access to global markets. +

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1 week ago
38 minutes

The Three Bells
Shakespeare in love... by Stephanie Fortunato (Reflections from The Three Bells)
3 weeks ago
10 minutes

The Three Bells
A HUB for digital creativity... Rachel Parent, Directrice Générale, HUB Montréal

Hilary Knight speaks with Rachel Parent, Directrice Générale HUB Montréal about building a global creative network at the intersection of culture, tech, and business – and why keeping things human is more important than ever.

External references: 

  • HUB Montréal – Annual international fair and gathering for digital creativity
  • Moment Factory – Montreal-based multimedia studio producing immersive experiences globally
  • La Piscine – Montreal-based cultural and creative industries business accelerator
  • TeamLab – Tokyo-based art collective producing immersive art and running permanent museums in Japan and internationally
  • Science Museum Group – Referenced for museum innovation and variation in tech adoption
  • Cleveland Museum of Art – Referenced for integrating tech such as AI and digital experiences into museum practice
  • Codaworx – A platform connecting artists and commissioners of public art, referenced as an international partner
  • ABBA Voyage – The hologram-based immersive concert experience mentioned in the discussion
  • The Golden Key – Immersive AI-powered installation referenced by Rachel, co-presented at Milan Design Week and HUB Montréal


About our guest:
Rachel Parent, is Directrice Génréale of HUB Montréal, an international market event for digital creativity. She leads strategy and development for HUB’s global network of cultural, technological, and creative sector participants. Previously active in the music and screen industries, Rachel brings a cross-sectoral perspective to how innovation happens in cultural ecosystems. +


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1 month ago
42 minutes

The Three Bells
Finding the will to reinvent downtown… by Adrian Ellis (Reflections from The Three Bells)

In this new episode of Reflections from The Three Bells, Adrian Ellis reflects on the slow unravelling of downtowns – and what it will take to reimagine them as civic, cultural, and residential spaces fit for the 21st century.

External reference: 

  • Los Angeles: adaptive reuse ordinance (expanded citywide)
  • Times Square Alliance (BID model in New York) 
  • How Minneapolis, St. Paul leaders plan to revitalize their downtowns
  • Detroit offers St. Paul a downtown turnaround blueprint


About our contributor:

Adrian Ellis is the founder of AEA Consulting (1990) and the Global Cultural Districts Network (2013). He has worked in senior management and as a board member in both museums and the performing arts and as a strategy consultant to leading clients in the cultural, public, and business sectors around the world. + 

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1 month ago
8 minutes

The Three Bells
S5E9: We are a gigantic arts project... Katrina Sedgwick, Director & CEO, Melbourne Arts Precinct Corporation

Adrian Ellis speaks with Katrina Sedgwick, Director & CEO of MAP Co, to discuss the ambitiously complex transformation of Melbourne’s arts precinct – and how principles of collaboration, creativity, and care are guiding one of Australia’s largest cultural infrastructure projects.

External references: 

  • Melbourne Arts Precinct Transformation (MAP Co) – The official site detailing the AU$1.7B redevelopment, including Federation Square, the new NGV Contemporary, and Laak Boorndap garden.
  • NGV Contemporary – The Fox: NGV Contemporary – Australia’s largest gallery dedicated to contemporary art and design, currently under development.
  • Arts Centre Melbourne Redevelopment – Major upgrades underway to the State Theatre and Theatres Building, including new underground facilities.
  • Laak Boorndap – A new 18,000m² public garden designed with Traditional Owners, led by landscape architecture firm Hassell.
  • Laak Boorndap Test Garden – a living window into the future of Laak Boorndap.
  • Koorie Heritage Trust – A First Nations cultural organisation and anchor tenant at Federation Square.
  • Lendlease – Construction partner leading both the Northern and Southern project packages.

Guest bio
Katrina Sedgwick OAM, is the inaugural CEO of MAP Co. She has held leadership roles across festivals, film, broadcasting, and museums – including as Head of Arts at ABC Television and Director & CEO of ACMI, Australia’s national museum of screen culture. She led ACMI’s $40 million transformation before joining MAP Co in 2022. + 

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2 months ago
42 minutes

The Three Bells
Behind the scenes: AI in the museum workplace... by Hilary Knight (Reflections from The Three Bells)
2 months ago
11 minutes

The Three Bells
S5:E8 We are fundamentally social creatures... Mouna Andraos & Melissa Mongiat, Co-founders, Daily tous les jours

Stephanie Fortunato speaks with Mouna Andraos and Melissa Mongiat of Daily tous les jours about their book Strangers Need Strange Moments Together, participatory urban art, and why moments of shared joy between strangers are essential to building healthy, resilient cities.

External references: 

  • Daily tous les jours
  • Strangers Need Strange Moments Together
  • US Surgeon General Report on the Loneliness Epidemic
  • GCDN Research: Culture, Health, and Cultural Districts

About our guests:

Mouna Andraos & Melissa Mongiat, are the co-founders and co-directors of Daily tous les jours, a Montreal-based award-winning art and design studio known for creating large-scale interactive installations that invite public participation. Their work blends storytelling, technology, and design to transform everyday environments into spaces of encounter and collective imagination. + 

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3 months ago
39 minutes

The Three Bells
The end must justify the means... by Adrian Ellis (Reflections from The Three Bells)

In this new episode of Reflections from The Three Bells, Adrian Ellis, shares insights on capital project planning and the value of defining purpose and impact before building and design.

External references: 

  • Manal Ataya: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mataya-uae/
  •  Sharjah Museums Authority: https://www.sharjahmuseums.ae/
  •  The International Museum Leadership Congress (IMCC): https://www.museum.construction/
  • The Bilbao effect: how Frank Gehry’s Guggenheim started a global craze: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/oct/01/bilbao-effect-frank-gehry-guggenheim-global-craze
  •  Daniel Libeskind: https://libeskind.com/
  •  Zaha Hadid: https://www.zaha-hadid.com/
  •  Tadao Ando: https://www.tadao-ando.com/youth_2025/
  •  Rem Koolhaas / OMA: https://www.oma.com/

About the contributor:
Adrian Ellis is the founder of AEA Consulting (1990) and the Global Cultural Districts Network (2013). He has worked in senior management and as a board member in both museums and the performing arts and as a strategy consultant to leading clients in the cultural, public, and business sectors around the world. + 

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3 months ago
8 minutes

The Three Bells
S5:E7 The Google Arts and Culture Lab... Freya Salway, Head of the Lab

Our host, Hilary Knight speaks with Freya Salway, Head of the Lab at Google Arts and Culture Lab which engages artists, institutions and audiences through experimentation with new digital technology. They discuss the lab’s mission, collaborations, and approach to R&D and partnerships.

External references

  • Google Arts and Culture
  • The Lab
  • Experiments with Google
  • Google Arts & Culture and British choreographer, Wayne McGregor developed an AI capable of predicting dance moves in his particular style
  • Jonathan Yeo’s large-scale bronze sculptural self-portrait entitled Homage to Paolozzi (Self Portrait)
  • Future Relics, A collaboration between Google Arts & Culture, Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj Vastu Sangrahalaya in Mumbai and the British Museum in London
  • Dr. Elizabeth Harmon on mining the Smithsonian Institution collections for stories of women in science
  • One Minute Guides, with Cleveland Museum of Art
  • Talking tours
  • NotebookLM
  • Es Devlin’s Please Feed The Lions interactive sculpture in Trafalgar Square

Guest bio

Freya Salway is head of the lab at Google Arts & Culture, collaborating with artists, technologists, curators, scientists and cultural institutions globally to explore the application of advanced technologies for arts and culture.

 

Since 2018, she has supported artistic experimentation with A.I. through residency programs and bespoke collaborations, partnering with renowned artists, innovators and cultural organizations. She has also worked as an independent consultant, enabling artists, brands and broadcasters to deliver creative projects, and previously led arts partnerships for Sky Arts, the U.K.'s only TV channel dedicated to the arts.

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4 months ago
27 minutes

The Three Bells
Big immersive beasts... by Hilary Knight (Reflections from The Three Bells)

In this new episode of Reflections from The Three Bells, Hilary Knight explores the fast-evolving immersive experience landscape, where big players scale up rapidly and independent creators strive to remain empowered to help shape its future.

External references:

  • Netflix House Set to Launch as Immersive Retail and Entertainment Destination
  • ABBA Voyage, London
  • The Sphere, Las Vegas + Correction: the Sphere is located in Las Vegas, Nevada, not Los Angeles, California.
  • The Mukaab in Riyadh

About the contributor:
Hilary Knight  is a creative leader with over 20 years of experience driving strategy, innovation, and digital transformation for cultural organisations worldwide. Currently a Senior Associate with AEA Consulting, she has held senior roles at the BBC, Channel 4, Film4, and Tate, where she led pioneering initiatives that embedded digital thinking and expanded audiences. + 

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4 months ago
7 minutes

The Three Bells
S5:E6 We need earth energy... Shey 'Rí Acu' Rivera Ríos, Artist – Writer – Cultural Worker

Our host, Stephanie Fortunato speaks with Shey 'Rí Acu' Rivera Ríos, Artist – Writer – Cultural Worker from Providence, Rhode Island, by way of Borikén. Together, they delve into Shey’s visionary, interdisciplinary work at the intersection of art, civic engagement, and cultural advocacy. At the heart of their conversation: storytelling, identity, community, and resilience.

External references: 

  • About Shey’s Artistic Practice 
  • Studio LOBA
  • Antigonx, a queer, Latinx story inspired by the Greek tragedy of Antigone
  • Young Lords
  • Violeta Parra
  • June Jordan
  • Frida Kahlo
  • The City of Providence’s Department of Art, Culture + Tourism (ACT) cultural plan, PVDx2031: A Cultural Plan for Culture Shift
  • El Corazón de Holyoke
  • Elizabeth Maynard, In Providence, “Everything Living Fights Back” Gets a Second Life Following Censorship of Shey ‘Rí Acu’ Rivera Ríos by Providence College (Boston Art Review, June 9, 2024)
  • Maya Pontone, Providence College Cancels Exhibition Over “Anti-Catholic” Artwork (Hyperallergic, May 8, 2024)


Guest bio:
Shey ‘Rí Acu’ Rivera Ríos, Shey 'Rí Acu' Rivera Ríos (they/them) is an interdisciplinary artist and cultural worker who uses storytelling across mediums to create immersive worlds of magic and liberation. Rivera was born and raised in Borikén/Puerto Rico and is based in Providence, RI - land of the Narragansett and Wampanoag peoples. +

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5 months ago
44 minutes

The Three Bells
Lessons from AEA's Cultural Infrastructure Index... by Adrian Ellis (Reflections from The Three Bells)

In this new episode of Reflections from The Three Bells, Adrian Ellis, shares key insights from AEA Consulting’s Cultural Infrastructure Index – now in its ninth edition.

External references:

  • AEA Consulting’s 2024 Cultural Infrastructure Index

Contributor's bio:
Adrian Ellis is the founder of AEA Consulting (1990) and the Global Cultural Districts Network (2013). He has worked in senior management and as a board member in both museums and the performing arts and as a strategy consultant to leading clients in the cultural, public, and business sectors around the world. + 

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5 months ago
6 minutes

The Three Bells
S5:E5 The arts are the way we serve... Rachel Moore, President & CEO, The Music Center LA

Our host, Adrian Ellis, speaks with Rachel Moore, President & CEO of The Music Center in Los Angeles, about the organization’s evolving role as both a cultural and civic anchor – from its response to recent local challenges and its leadership in the newly designated Grand Avenue Cultural District, to its commitment to democratic values, inclusive programming, and long-term relevance.

Guest bio:
Rachel Moore is the President & CEO of The Music Center in Los Angeles, one of the largest performing arts centers in the U.S., where she oversees programming, civic partnerships, and a portfolio of over $3B in public assets. A former professional dancer with American Ballet Theatre, she went on to become its CEO and spearheaded nationally recognized diversity and policy initiatives in the arts.

With deep experience in cultural leadership, public service, and nonprofit finance, Moore has served on numerous boards, advised on arts equity and Olympic planning, and authored The Artist’s Compass. She is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and continues to advocate for the civic value of the arts in public life.


References:

  • The Music Center: https://www.musiccenter.org/
  • American Ballet Theater: https://www.abt.org/
  • Grand Ave Cultural District: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2025-04-01/la-county-board-of-supervisors-grand-avenue-cultural-district-broad
  • Bloomberg Connects: https://www.bloombergconnects.org/
  • The Broad Museum Expansion: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2024-03-27/broad-expansion-more-galleries
  • The Colburn School Expansion: https://colburnschool.edu/future/
  • Refik Anadol Is Opening the World’s First A.I. Museum: https://news.artnet.com/art-world/refik-anadol-ai-museum-dataland-2543122
  • GCDN LA Convening: https://gcdn.net/convening/los-angeles-2025/

 

LinkedIn:

  • The Music Center: https://www.linkedin.com/company/music-center/
  • Rachel Moore: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-moore-4b5b445/ 
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5 months ago
30 minutes

The Three Bells
Practicing radical joy... by Stephanie Fortunato (Reflections from The Three Bells)

In this new episode of Reflections from The Three Bells, Stephanie Fortunato explores the power of practicing radical joy as a guiding principle for cultural leadership in an increasingly divided and hostile era where empathy is too often mistaken for weakness...


Contributor bio:
Stephanie Fortunato is Director of Special Projects of the Global Cultural Districts Network. Her expertise sits at the intersection of cultural planning and urban development, collaborating with local communities on creating policies and partnerships to strengthen neighbourhoods and transform public spaces. + 

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6 months ago
8 minutes

The Three Bells
S5:E4 Exploring the gendered city... Nourhan Bassam, Founding Director, The Gendered City

Our host, Stephanie Fortunato, speaks to Nourhan Bassam, Founding Director of The Gendered City. They discuss the necessity to rethink how cities can be more socially inclusive, the role Cultural Districts can play in promoting that inclusivity, and the many inspiring initiatives Nourhan is championing to push feminist urbanism forward.

External references: 

  • The Gendered City
  • The Gendered City, 2023 book
  • FEM DES
  • Simone de Beauvoir
  • Dolores Hayden
  • City with a female face: how modern Vienna was shaped by women
  • The world’s most feminist city: how Umeå in Sweden became an idyll for women


Guest bio:
Nourhan Bassam, a feminist urbanist and architect with a Ph.D. in Urban Design and Placemaking, is the visionary behind "The Gendered City" which started as a book and grew into an organization. The Gendered City works on diverse feminist urban projects and research fields all centered on creating just and gender-equal cities through feminist placemaking and active citizen participation. + 

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6 months ago
43 minutes

The Three Bells
Mapping empathy... by Hilary Knight (Reflections from The Three Bells)

Mapping empathy… In this audio essay, Hilary Knight shares the many benefits of empathy in improving an organization’s workflow and enhancing visitor experience – and offers a framework to leverage it.

External references: 

  • Frans de Waal, Evolutionary Biologist
  • Mario Mikulincer, Psychologist
  • Phillip Shaver, Psychologist
  • Seung Chan Lim (Slim) at TEDxWellesleyCollege: How Empathy Fuels the Creative Process
  • Bill Drayton, Social entrepreneur and CEO

Contributor bio:
Hilary Knight  is a creative leader with over 20 years of experience driving strategy, innovation, and digital transformation for cultural organisations worldwide. Currently a Senior Associate with AEA Consulting, she has held senior roles at the BBC, Channel 4, Film4, and Tate, where she led pioneering initiatives that embedded digital thinking and expanded audiences. + 

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7 months ago
7 minutes

The Three Bells
S5:E3 The murmurs of future potential... Anab Jain, Co-Founder & Creative Director, Superflux

Our host, Hilary Knight, interviews Anab Jain, Co-Founder and Creative Director of Superflux, to explore the studio’s innovative work of creating visceral experiences that encourage audiences to imagine theoretical futures, and the power of tapping into human emotion.

References:

  • Superflux: https://superflux.in/#
  • Anab serves as Professor of Design Investigations at the dieAngewandte, University of Applied Arts in Vienna: https://www.dieangewandte.at/en/institutes/design/industrial_design_2
  • Mitigation of Shock, Singapore: https://superflux.in/index.php/work/mitigation-of-shock-singapore/#
  • The Vault of Life, Museum of the Future, Dubai: https://superflux.in/index.php/work/the-vault-of-life-in-museum-of-the-future/#
  • The Quiet Enchanting, London: https://superflux.in/index.php/work/the-quiet-enchanting/#


LinkedIn:

  • Anab Jain: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anabjain
  • Superflux: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superflux/


Guest Bio:

Anab is a designer, futurist, filmmaker and educator. As Co-founder and Director of Superflux, she catalyses the Studio’s mission to leave a meaningful legacy for our planet and its future custodians. https://superflux.in/index.php/team/anab/#

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7 months ago
30 minutes

The Three Bells
The status quo is not an option... by Adrian Ellis (Reflections from The Three Bells)

In this second episode of Reflections from The Three Bells, our host, Adrian Ellis, shares his personal perspective on the evolving responsibilities of cultural institutions and their role in navigating an increasingly polarized world.

External references: 

  • When background becomes foreground editorial by Adrian Ellis, beginning at 28:35: https://www.thethreebells.net/episodes/s2e8
  • Stathis Kalyvas: https://www.politics.ox.ac.uk/person/stathis-kalyvas
  • Trump Made Chair of Kennedy Center as Its President Is Fired: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/12/arts/music/trump-kennedy-center-chairman.html
  • Trump seeks greater control of independent regulators with his new executive order: https://apnews.com/article/trump-order-agency-independent-regulator-b3f13291374d91491a13f164b402f51b

Credits:
The Three Bells podcast is produced by AEA Consulting for the Global Cultural Districts Network (GCDN). Episode direction by Gregorio Lucena Scarpella. Production support by Alyssa Cartwright. Sound mixing and theme music by Artwave Studio. The views and opinions expressed by the hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of AEA or GCDN.

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8 months ago
8 minutes

The Three Bells
S5:E2 Holding emotional space... Natasha Sharma, co-Curator, Govandi Arts Festival

Our host, Stephanie Fortunato, speaks with Natasha Sharma, co-Curator of the Govandi Arts Festival, about how engagement with the arts and creative interventions can help displaced or overlooked communities reclaim space, agency, and narratives of belonging.

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8 months ago
44 minutes

The Three Bells
We must unleash radical thought... by Stephanie Fortunato (Reflections from The Three Bells)

In this first episode of our new format, our host, Stephanie Fortunato, shares her latest reflections on the state of our world and our industry through a thoughtful audio essay: We must unleash radical thought…

References

  • Southern California wildfires: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2025_Southern_California_wildfires
  • The Linotype Daily: https://dwriletterpress.net/the-linotype-daily-1
  • The Linotype Daily Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelinotypedaily/
  • Linotype Machine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linotype_machine
  • Brain rot, Oxford Word of the Year 2024: https://corp.oup.com/word-of-the-year/
  • Harry Belafonte’s Speech accepting NAACP Spingarn Medal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6gpeROY9Y0
  • Harry Belafonte Obituary: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/25/arts/music/harry-belafonte-dead.html
  • Fair Culture Charter: https://www.fair-culture.org/
  • European Parliament press release, Music streaming sector: EU must ensure just pay for artists and fair algorithms: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20240112IPR16773/music-streaming-sector-eu-must-ensure-just-pay-for-artists-and-fair-algorithms
  • IFACCA 2024 Year in Review: https://ifacca.org/news/2024/12/19/2024-year-review/
  • SMU DataArts Research: https://culturaldata.org/research/research/
  • Springboard for the Arts, Minnesota: https://springboardforthearts.org/
  • Creatives Rebuild New York: https://www.creativesrebuildny.org/
  • IFACCA report ‘Culture as a Public Good’ : https://ifacca.org/media/filer_public/5e/41/5e416ea9-47c5-4d3e-959e-074d624da3bb/ifacca_-_culture_as_a_public_good_report_-_july_2024_-_english.pdf
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9 months ago
11 minutes

The Three Bells
Hello and welcome to The Three Bells – a podcast in which we explore the challenges and opportunities waiting for us at the intersection of culture and urbanism…