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In this episode, Jess is joined by Nova Reid as they unpack the question of healing and what that might mean in this moment of polycrisis.
Nova Reid is a thought leader, TED speaker, writer and producer. Often described as a force to be reckoned with, Nova uses her background in mental wellbeing to encourage meaningful change from the inside out. Through her impactful advocacy and powerful public speaking, writing and storytelling, she has become renowned as an agent of change, selected as one of Black Magic Network’s Top 100 Black British Women and receiving a Precious Award for Social Impact. Nova’s sought-after online academy - Becoming Anti-Racist with Nova Reid - and best selling debut book, The Good Ally , have consistently been described as life-changing.
Connect with Nova:
IG - @novareid
Website - www.novareid.com
Buy ‘The Good Ally’ here
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Sign up to our Open Forums:
Healthy Humans For Social Change Open Forum Sign Up Form
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In this episode Jess is joined by Hazem Jamjoum.
Hazem is a Palestinian educator and an editor with the recently-established publishing house Maqam Editions. His translation of Ghassan Kanafani's The Revolution of 1936-1939 in Palestine was published by 1804 Press in 2023, and his translation of Maya Abu al-Hayyat's No One Knows their Blood Type was released by the CSU Poetry Center in October 2024.
Their honest and at times raw conversation is a call to action to all of us, a call to asking better questions, a call to facing our shared complicity and ultimately a call to take responsibility and play our part in standing up against injustice everywhere and building new worlds.
As always, let us know what you think in the comments on IG and join us not just by listening but by participating in our Open Forums.
Connect with Hazem on IG
Engage with Hazem's work here
Clips from the panel Hazem spoke on, hosted by the Nejma Collective, Jess refers to in the episdode:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3a0OY5K0jQ/?igsh=MTR4YThoYWxmbm1yYg==
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C35aAfrqbYd/?igsh=MWJtN2M1YnV2OXFzbA==
Healthy Humans Open Forum Sign Up Link
Check out The AWETHU School of Organising Jess mentioned in their intro.
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Music and production by Finlay Mowat
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Welcome to a brand new season of Healthy Humans for Social Change!
In this kickoff episode, host and founder Jess Mally (they/she) is interviewed by Emma Slade Edmondson.
This engaging conversation sets the stage for an exciting season ahead.
Emma skillfully guides Jess through a candid discussion about their hopes for the upcoming season, the challenges they face in the work of social change, and their ongoing efforts to break free from white supremacy culture.
From the raw honesty in this episode to the inspiring guests lined up for the season, we invite you to engage deeply with these conversations.
Join us not just by listening but by participating in our Open Forums and connecting with us on social media.
ABOUT EMMA:
Emma Slade Edmondson is a sustainability consultant, writer, ethical fashion advocate and presenter, who currently splits her time between London and Paris. Writing on sustainability, fashion and Race and Identity for publications like Marie Claire, Grazia and Eco Age. In 2020 she launched her award-winning podcast Mixed Up; An exploration of Race and Identity through the lens of the Mixed Race experience.
Her first book The Half Of It is written with friend and co presenter Nicole Orcan, and is an exploration of race and identity through the lens of the mixed race experience is published by HarperCollins.
Emma is a thought leader working across all elements of fashion retail, sustainability, race, marketing and branding.
OTHER HELPFUL LINKS:
The Half Of It by Emma Slade Edmondson and Nicole Ocran
We Will Not Cancel Us - adrienne maree brown
Healthy Humans Open Forum Sign Up Link
Follow and engage with Emma's work:
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Music and production by Finlay Mowat
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In this episode, Jess is joined by their friend, chosen family and comrade Jo Becker. Jo and Jess met at a Civil Resistance training course a few years back and have been in each others lives since. Jo (they/she) is currently doing their PhD in the field of autonomous spaces, prefigurative politics and degrowth. This is grounded in political organising bringing anti-hierarchical, abolitionist and climate justice perspectives/praxis together.
They can be reached as @treesnpeace on Instagram or @josephinebeckr on twitter - they use both platforms to chat politics, usually in form of anger and rage at what is happening in the world.
In this episode they cover so much ground - from imagining different economies and worlds, to the importance of true solidarity, to their different thoughts on how to call people into the work of social change and their shared passion and belief that things don’t have to be this way.
Sources mentioned in the episode:
Healthy Humans Open Forum Sign Up Link
Follow and engage with Jo’s work:
Find us on IG:
Music and production by Finlay Mowat
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In this episode Jess is joined by the author, broadcaster and social advocate Yassmin Abdel-Magied. They both happened to be in NYC for various reasons and decided to get together to record this long awaited episode. They cover so much - from Yassmin's advocacy and organising work, her writing, the role her faith plays in her work and the balance between organising offline and online. They talk about healthy as a groundedness and rootedness, about holding opinions lightly and the importance of being willing to change and so much more. They also touched on Yassmin's advocacy work for Sudan - links to learn more and get involved in amplifying Sudanese voices below!
Sudan:
Connect with Yassmin:
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TW: Racism, suicidal ideation
In this episode, Jess Mally interviews Andre Henry, bestselling author, award-winning musician, and activist based in Los Angeles.
Jess and Andre cover so much ground in this conversation - from Andre’s journey into activism, including their awakening to systemic racism, their studies and exploration of armed struggle vs nonviolent resistance as a strategy, what healthy means to them and how our movement spaces desperately need to centre care, community and relationships to sow a better future into the soil of today.
Andre shares vulnerably and openly about their own journey with depression, the way out and how that journey taught them - among other things - how the body is a key strategic battleground in the work of liberation.
It’s an incredible conversation, but it ain't short ;) so grab a cuppa or listen in two parts - we promise it’s worth it!
Books and Resources mentioned:
All the White Friends I Couldn’t Keep - Andre Henry
Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi
The Greater Good Science Center
Connect with Andre:
Join Andre’s newsletter via the website
Andre’s podcast - Hope and Hardpills Podcast
Register for An Introduction to Anti-racism:
Jess' Patreon here
Find us on IG:
Music and production by Finlay Mowat
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In this episode, Jess is joined by Ani Zonneveld, founder and President of Muslims for Progressive Values (MPV), an international human rights organization that advocates for social justice and equality for all. In this conversation, Ani shares about her journey from being a Grammy Award winning singer-songwriter to founding MPV, her thoughts on the intersection of faith and social justice and why she has committed to framing all her work from compassion and love.
Connect with Ani:
Ani's personal website (including links to her music)
Muslims For Progressive Values
Ani's Op Ed mentioned in the conversation
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In this episode, Jess is joined by Suhaiymah Manzoor-Khan, a poet and writer whose work disrupts assumptions about history, race, violence and knowledge.
From interrogating our intentions, to moving past feeling unable to move and act at all, they explore the role of a divine gaze in our social change work. Suhaiymah shares beautifully about her faith and how it impacts her work, about her work with the Nejma collective and so much more. Finally, they land on the idea that we are all here for a reason, all have our part to play and can start wherever we are right now.
Names referenced - learn more:
Talal Assad
Rumi
Saba Mahmoud
Connect with and support the Nejma Collective:
Register for An Introduction to Anti-racism:
Follow these journalists who are reporting straight from Gaza:
Resources to learn more about what’s happening in Palestine / Israel:
Daniel B Mate IG Live (it’s long but I highly recommend it)
Resources to make your voices heard for the people of Gaza:
Email your MP with this template
Palestinian Youth Movement (find out about rallies)
Jess' Patreon here
Find us on IG:
Music and production by Finlay Mowat
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In this episode, Jess is joined by the powerhouse sisters and Anti-Racism educators Naomi and Natalie.
From the beginnings of their platform @everydayracism_ , the UK’s largest anti-racism platform on social media, to what racism actually means and what anti-racism requires of us in practice.
Naomi and Natalie expand on how their understanding of anti-racism requires an analysis of capitalism, coalition building across lived experiences an intersectional approach and actively imagining a different world.
Connect with Naomi and Natalie:
Everyday Racism threads account
Sign the petition:
Sign the racial literacy training petition
Sign up to Jess' Patreon here
Find us on IG:
Music and production by Finlay Mowat
Other links:
Parable of the Sower - Octavia Butler
Why I No Longer Talking to White People About Race - Reni Eddo-Lodge
The body is not an apology - Sonya Renee Taylor
An Introduction to Anti-racism Course by Jess
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In this episode, Blair and Jess explore what Pokémon can teach us about Social Change and our place in it. Seriously ;)
We can't put more in the show notes because we have so many links and references to share with you (see below) - suffice to say this episode is brilliant and a must listen! As always, like, share and subscribe and leave us some good reviews!
Blair's socials:
Sign up to Jess' Patreon here
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Music and production by Finlay Mowat
References and links:
Susanna Barkataki - Embrace Yogas Roots
Screen actors guild strike info
Fred Hampton Rainbow coalition
Noor Tagouri I see you foundation
Why the Willow Project is a bad idea
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TW: miscarriage/domestic violence
In this episode, Jess is joined by the honest multidisciplinary powerhouse Sereena Abbassi. From sharing about her personal journey - her complex childhood and journey to becoming a mother - to the difficult yet important process of healing, overcoming pain and acceptance. Jess and Sereena also discuss their political home, challenges they find there and how self-righteousness and binary thinking won't get us the solutions we so badly crave. Finally, Serenna gives us an insight into the local democratic system in Bristol, the power of community and the link between spirituality and social change.
Sereena's socials:
Links to topics discussed in the show:
Black women maternal death rates
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In this transparent episode, Jess swaps the interviewer role and is now in the hot seat! Jess is interviewed by her interdisciplinary talented friend Ronaé Fagon. During the episode, we get to hear Jess’ journey into the social movement sphere and the true intentions behind the podcast. Later on in the conversation, both discuss the importance of bringing integrity and self-awareness to our actions. Finally, Jess and Ronae end on a note of how it’s integral to hold uncomfortable conversations in our interpersonal relationships to move towards a healthier collective.
References for the episode:
Emma Dabiri - What White People Can Do Next
Jess Mally's anti-racism course
Follow The Third Way Podcast on instagram and twitter
Other social media links:
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In this honest and transparent episode, Jess is joined by powerhouse and climate justice activist Mikaela Loach.
Mikaela is a climate justice activist, bestselling author of It’s Not That Radical: Climate Action to Transform Our World (April 2023), co-host of The YIKES Podcast, writer and 4th year medical student based in the United Kingdom. In 2020, Forbes, Global Citizen and BBC Woman's Hour named Mikaela as one of the most influential women in the UK climate movement. In 2021, she was one of three claimants on the "Paid To Pollute" case who took the UK government to court over the huge public payments they give to fossil fuel companies every year. Her work focuses on the intersections of the climate crisis with oppressive systems and making the climate movement a more accessible space.
In this episode Jess and Mikaela explore what climate justice actually means, how it seeks to tackle the root causes of the climate crisis, how we are all needed and have something to bring to the work and what role our own honesty and vulnerability plays on the journey,
Mikaela defines what healthy looks to her, the importance of choosing honesty over scarcity and “not pretending to know it all”!
Links:
Climate Strike, Mikaela Loach on Capitalism, Colonialism & Imperialism Fuel Climate Crisis
Do better - Spiritual Activism for Fighting and Healing from White Supremacy - Rachel Ricketts
Climate activist groups in your area:
https://groups.friendsoftheearth.uk/near-you/local-authority
https://netpol.org/2022/04/06/find-your-local-copwatch-group/
Mikaela on Social Media:
Instagram: @mikaelaloach
Twitter: @mikaelaloach
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T/W: mentions of suicide/crisis/illness
In this episode, Jess is joined by Nora Logan, in discussing her passion for disability justice including her raw and personal story about why she is passionate about health and wellness.
Nora is a writer, meditation teacher and the host of the podcast So, Life Wants You Dead, produced in collaboration with Soho House after winning their 'Soho Chance' competition in 2021.
In this conversation Nora shares her journey of going through a liver transplant and the recovery process in the face of an ableist and capitalist society. Nora and Jess explore that healthy is a practice more than a state of being, that it is intrinsically complicated in the world we live in and that everything - as always - is interconnected.
Links to Nora's Work:
Nora’s Podcast - So Life Wants You Dead
Nora’s website and sign up for her newsletter
Other things referenced:
Disability and climate change
https://healthpolicy-watch.news/climate-change-twofold-blow-for-disabled/
Floods that hit the UK: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/07/met-office-issues-thunderstorm-warning-for-parts-of-uk
The Third Way and Jess:
Sign up to Jess' Patreon here
Find us on IG:
Find us on Twitter:
Music and production by Finlay Mowat
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This is the first episode of the unedited The Third Way offering, normally available to Patrons of our 'Exclusive Content' Tier only, but because it's the first, I made it available for all tiers as well as on the general podcast feed as 'Unedited' so everyone can have a listen. It is literally unedited.
The audio quality isn't amazing - sorry about that! Will be resolved next time.
I talk about why Patreon, my hope for it and then also talk about (TW - I get raw and explicit) the shooting of Ralph Yarl and what we all need to do.
In regards to the actions mentioned, see below:
- Email Prosecutor Zachary Thompson in Missouri prosecutor@claycopa.com and demand the immediate arrest of the shooter and that he be charged with appropriate charges
- Sign up to my course via www.jessmally.com/events
- Read 'It's Not That Radical' by Mikaela Loach and 'What White People Can Do Next' Emma Dabiri
- Get organised in whichever way calls to you. One way might be to join your Local Copwatch Groups
Thanks for tuning into the first episode. The next unedited episode will land in a month and will only be available for folks on the Exclusive Content tier
Much love
J
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TW/CW: this episode contains mentions of death and dying
In this first episode of the #HealthyHumansForSocialChange series, Jess is joined by Father Jarel Robinson-Brown, author of “Black Gay British Christian Queer". He joins Jess for an open, raw conversation about what it means to be a healthy human in this world.
From embracing death to church abolition, the end of the world and more, they cover a broad array of subjects, ultimately leaving us with thoughts on what being a healthy human might mean.
References from the conversation:
How To Survive The End of The World Podcast
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Music and production by Finlay Mowat
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Welcome to the first season and intro episode of Healthy Humans for Social Change.
In this intro episode, Jess outlines her intentions for the podcast and discusses the plans for the upcoming season.
Join her and her guests each month as they outline their dreams for a healthier and more inclusive world.
Read 'What Does Your Heart Dream Of'
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Music and production by Finlay Mowat
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