In this episode of Third Space, host Naisi Chen sits down with Bobby Shen, an architect and former local board member for Mt Roskill, to explore what it means to serve the community while navigating dual identities as a Kiwi-Asian. From growing up speaking Cantonese on the playground to shaping Auckland’s urban landscape, Bobby shares his journey of learning te reo Māori and embracing tikanga, Bobby reflects on how Māori values like mana and whanaungatanga resonate deeply with Chinese cultural roots. Together, they explore what it means to build bridges between cultures, lead authentically, and find a shared sense of belonging in Aotearoa.
Welcome to the very first episode! This week we welcome Andrew Mei to the couch— now a Red Influencer with over 50K followers — shares his journey of navigating identity, ambition, and family expectations as an Asian New Zealander. He reflects on how diversity shaped his career in law, strategy consulting and corporate. A conversation about walking into the unknown, how to survive corporate and finding your own light in the tunnel.
We present to you: The 3rd Space with Naisi Chen.
This is a podcast made by Kiwi Asians, for all people creating their 3rd culture to support our personal and professional journeys in Aotearoa.
It’s for anyone learning to embrace both sides of their cultural identity, wanting to connect with community, and seeking to feel empowered to influence the world around them.
Every week, we talk with inspiring guests who’ve been there, doing that: sharing honest career stories, workplace reflections, and experiences from across our communities and society.
A special thanks to Kaishandao-Kristen Ng for the music, and Sam Collins for the guidance.