Andy Clift returns to the show to discuss Through the Valley of Shadows, an episode we have mixed feelings on. Even Andy, the perpetual Star Trek optimist, has issues with it. Plus! Prequels, and why they may not be a good idea, even if you're enjoying them, and are we the first Star Trek podcast to make a joke about Gant charts?
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PJ, Mat and Eliot finally find out who the Red Angel is! And it's... well, it's not great. We come up with some better ideas. They're all bad ideas. But they're also better than the actual episode. Plus! A thank you to you, our listeners!
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PJ, Mat and Eliot get together to talk about The Wire, multiple versions of The Thing and the Jaws films. They eventually remember to discuss Star Trek. Plus! PJ forgets the introduction!
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PJ, Mat and Eliot are expected to care about a background character we've never gotten to know before. And a threat that's only been vaguely mentioned once. Discovery tries to pack a lot into this episode, and it doesn't really work.
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Journalist and author, Rachel England, joins PJ, Mat and Eliot as they return to Talos IV to get answers about the red angel. Taking in continuity from both this season of Discovery, and The Cage, this would be a terrible episode of Star Trek to be anybody's first. Sorry Rachel.
We had some issues (again) with this episode. We recorded in person, but the podcast machine didn't record the first 45 minutes or so. We pulled the audio from the Patreon video file and cleaned it up as best we could, but you may notice some echo, and general poor quality for the first section of the episode.
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Apologies for the delay in release on this one. We had many technical issues with the episode. We've done our best to edit around them, but you may notice some issues with sound quality, and audio bleed.
PJ, Mat and Eliot join Michael Burnham as she goes back to Vulcan, and everything that happens is very obvious. Plus! Pike and Tyler go on a mission that gets all timey-wimey. Sorry, wrong show.
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More technical issues have reared their heads, so while we beaver away trying to get more episodes recorded and edited, our friends over at The Replimat have very kindly offered to let us share with you an episode of their show, in which all three of us turned up to watch an episode of Deep Space Nine. Did chaos ensue? Well, yeah.
Easter weekend was celebrating with a crossover of podcasts when the entire Measure of a Fan Podcast trio, PJ, Mat, and Eliot, joined Andy and Tim at the Replimat to react to, and discuss, the DS9 episode, CROSSOVER.
What's this? An episode of Star Trek that PJ, Mat and Eliot all liked? It's true, dear listener. It has happened. Plus! Mastication.
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PJ, Mat and Eliot join Tilly in the mycelial network! There's a monster on the loose, and the mushroom people need her help! But is everything as it seems? Plus! Section 31 suck!
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PJ, Mat and Eliot join the Discovery crew as they encounter a mysterious sphere in deep space while chasing Spock's shuttle. But is it scary enough? Plus! A mystery! Which some are happier about than others.
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PJ, Mat and Eliot experience two of their least favourite things: Discovery Klingons, and Section 31. But could they both be a bit more tolerable this time around? Plus! There's a ghost!
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Pyjamas, Mat and Eliot welcome Sarah Millman back to the show, for an episode that again divides opinion. We run the gamut from liked it (guess who) to just don't care (guess who). We also get into the topic of magic box storytelling, and whether Discovery is succeeding at it.
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PJ, Mat and Eliot begin season two of Discovery! PJ thinks the episode is a mixed bag. Mat and Eliot both think a lot less of it. Count yourselves lucky this episode is only an hour long. We could have talked for a lot longer.
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PJ, Mat and Eliot join Tilly as she argues with her mother, then meets an invisible alien. But not a cool one, like the Predator. A rubbish one. Like a Tellytubby. Plus! Mat finds a spine!
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We're back! PJ, Mat and Eliot finally kick off our sixth season with a look at another Short Trek! And we have a mixed response to it. Plus! How did PJ's bath get into his bathroom?
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We made it! It's the finale of Discovery's first season! And it's.... eh, you know. A bit of a damp squib, to be honest. But don't worry! We created interest by inviting noted author, comedian and neuroscientist, Doctor Dean Burnett on the show! And he agreed, so, anything that happens next is really on him.
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PJ, Mat and Eliot reach the penultimate episode of Discovery season one! We're rocketing towards the end, and it's.... really dull. Nothing happens. But we weirdly like a couple of scenes. It's a weird episode. But we're nearly done with this season. At last.
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PJ, Mat and Eliot finally reach the end of the mirror universe story arc in Discovery's first season! And it's the best episode of the arc yet! Which, you know, was a low bar. But at least there's some fun to be had here.
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Sarah Millman is back, and joins PJ, Mat and Eliot for the latest episode in Discovery's mirror universe arc! One of our regulars gets angry with the episode. And it isn't Eliot. Well... It is. But someone else gets angry too.
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PJ, Mat and Eliot are still stuck in the mirror universe, and aren't happy about it. Stuff happens. We don't care. It's all so tedious. Plus! Mat tells us about his fountain pen.
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