In this special crossover episode, Michael Gungor shares an intimate reflection from his new Loving This podcast series, Magnificat — a journey through the songs, symbols, and spiritual questions behind his latest album.
This episode centers on Mary — the divine feminine, the cosmic mother, and the presence of love that births the world again and again. Through story, song, and meditation, Michael explores how the archetype of Mary lives in all of us — as compassion, surrender, and creative power.
It’s both a return and a beginning — a bridge between The Liturgists and what’s emerging next.
Stay tuned for a new season of The Liturgists coming early next year: conversations with voices that help us feel a little less alone.
Michael Gungor talks about how he's been church shopping and how the Internet has reacted to it as well as his thoughts and feelings around this unexpected burst of cultural conversation
Sally Kempton (January 15, 1943 – July 10, 2023) was an American swami, author, and spiritual teacher. This interview with Michael Gungor from the final year of Sally's time on this planet covers a range of topics from the divine feminine to kundalini to trans-rational perspective. You can check out more of Sally's work at sallykempton.com
The Sedona Method has helped transform the lives of hundreds of thousands of people around the globe. In this sequel to our original Sedona Method podcast that we released last year, Michael Gungor speaks with Hale Dwoskin, author of the book "The Sedona Method" about blocks to releasing, the nine emotional states, how children know how to do this instinctively, and more.
In this episode, Michael talks about his discovery about how the most destructive patterns in his history have been rooted in a story of not being enough. This realization has made him refocus his mission to the point that he is restructuring all of his life, work, and business.
Audrey Assad interviews Michael and Lisa Gungor about Gungor’s new record “Love Song to Life.” They talk about music, theology, and some unexpected musical instrumentation.
Can the idea of forgiveness actually be violent? In this episode, Michael talks about Gungor's new single "I Forgive You" and explores the idea of forgiveness looking through the different lenses presented in Marshall Rosenberg's "Nonviolent Communication".
In this bonus episode from the Loving THIS podcast, Michael talks about the meaning and story behind Gungor's new single "A Million I's"
Victoria Loorz, MDiv, is a "wild church pastor," an "eco-spiritual director" and co-founder of several transformation-focused organizations focused on the integration of nature and spirituality. She feels most alive when collaborating with Mystery and kindred spirits to create opportunities for people to re-member themselves back into intimate, sacred relationship with the rest of the living world.
After twenty years as a pastor of indoor churches, she launched the first Church of the Wild, in Ojai CA and began to meet others with the same sense of call to leave building and expand the Beloved Community beyond our own species. She then co-founded the ecumenical Wild Church Network.
Victoria is co-founder and director of Seminary of the Wild, which is focused on a deep-dive yearlong Eco-Ministry Certificate program for all those who feel called by Earth and Spirit to "restore the great conversation." (Thomas Berry)
In today's episode, Michael talks to Jennifer Dawn Watts, friend of the show and noted faith community leader and therapist, about the idea of The 12 Steps and how they relate to spirituality.
Join us in this special episode where Michael discusses the concept of Praise: what it means to him, what it means in the world, and how you can practice it in your own life
In today’s episode, Michael talks to John Philip Newell, a Celtic teacher and author of spirituality who calls the modern world to reawaken to the sacredness of the earth and every human being. Together, they discuss Celtic Christianity and the modern-day application of its wisdom.
3:00- Michael asks what the scope of Celtic Christianity is
7:50- Michael asks why this wisdom is difficult to practice together
12:50: Michael reads some quotes and John Philip discusses the divine feminine
20:30: Michael and John Philip discuss the intersection between sexuality and spirituality
29:30: Michael asks John Philip what God isn’t
41:00: They discuss distinctions between ego and soul
47:00- Michael asks what the Celtic Christian view of Jesus Christ is
In this episode, Michael speaks with Hale Dwoskin, author of "The Sedona Method: Your Key to Lasting Happiness, Success, Peace and Emotional Well-Being" to discuss his book and the Method as he sees it. The Sedona Method is described as "a simple, powerful, and easy-to-learn technique that shows you how to uncover your natural ability to let go of any painful or unwanted feeling in the moment."
Some helpful timestamps for this episode:
5:30- Hale describes the Sedona Method
10:00- Hale gives you an interactive analogy for letting go
12:00- Hale begins describing the basic questions of the Method
13:20- Hale begins describing the experience of it
18:30- Michael and Hale discuss the conscious permission to constrict
23:15- Michael discusses how these practices have affected his daily practices
26:00- Hale discusses one of the more shocking revelations of the method
28:00- Hale leads a process for embracing opposites
34:20- Michael allows some time for personal meditation
In the first episode of Season 8, Michael speaks to Derek Webb. Derek Webb is a musician who has always bravely asked the big questions in his music and invited others to do the same. In this episode, Derek and Michael Gungor chat about music, spirituality and why the two have been so intertwined for both of them.
Some helpful timestamps for this episode:
2:30- Derek Webb introduces himself
5:00- Michael and Derek discuss their similar music careers
9:00- Derek talks about meaning
13:00- Michael talks about ambiguity in Christian art
21:30- Michael asks how spirituality and music are intertwined in Derek’s music
31:00- Derek talks about the difficulties of moving between and beyond spirituality
40:30- Derek talks about limitations in art
46:00- Derek tells a story about limits in creation
50:15- Michael asks where Derek’s art is now
57:00- Michael begin interrogating the idea of “belief”
1:06:15- Derek talks about the utility of language without reverence
1:10:00- Derek talks about his philosophical position with his new album “The Jesus Hypothesis”
Join the Liturgists for a conversation immediately following the January 1st, 3pm PST Youtube premiere of "Mass", an existential meditation by Stephen Proctor that features music from Michael Gungor's WEIWU album. You can find the information about "Mass" at massfilm.art, and find the zoom conversation at the usual link below:
Zoom Link: https://zoom.us/j/3271876473
Room Code: 300300
We'll see you there!
In this final episode of Season 7, Symposium member Briana Lynn and Michael Gungor have a fun, lighthearted conversation about the belief, play, and why we tried to do what we did in this last season of the podcast.
Peter Rollins returns to the Liturgists podcast to disagree with Michael about reality being “One” and, of course, to have some good laughs while doing so.
As season 7 draws to a close, Michael talks about the mission of the Liturgists and where things are headed.
We've lot a lot of listeners and patrons this season. Perhaps not surprisingly, reframing Christianity to be seen as nondual spiritual technologies is not everyone's cup of tea. (Neither is Michael Gungor) But we also want you to know that we hear you and that there's space for you and your disagreement here too. In this episode, Michael talks with an old Christian music buddy (and Liturgists podcast listener), Jimmy Needham, about why they disagree about the content of this season.
Does the concept of salvation have any use if we don’t see it as a ticket to some other worldly existence after we die? Does the progressive notion of “freedom” that is so related to morality, justice, money, and power imply that we should all be more like Bezos or Trump? What is enlightenment and does anybody actually get to be enlightened? These are a few of the questions we tackle in this raw and powerful conversation between Michael Gungor, Emily Capshaw, and Mason Smith.
