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The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Gurthro Steenkamp
78 episodes
18 hours ago
Lessons From The Game Podcast Hosted by Gurthro Steenkamp and Ben Pegna, this podcast dives into performance, mindset, and resilience. With insights from athletes, coaches, and leaders, we explore the lessons rugby teaches about success—both on and off the field. 🎙 COMING SOON 20 FEBRUARY Perfect for rugby enthusiasts, coaches, and anyone seeking inspiration to elevate their game and life.
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Lessons From The Game Podcast Hosted by Gurthro Steenkamp and Ben Pegna, this podcast dives into performance, mindset, and resilience. With insights from athletes, coaches, and leaders, we explore the lessons rugby teaches about success—both on and off the field. 🎙 COMING SOON 20 FEBRUARY Perfect for rugby enthusiasts, coaches, and anyone seeking inspiration to elevate their game and life.
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The Lessons From The Game Podcast
How Ireland Finally Beat the All Blacks – Andrew Trimble’s Inside Story

In this episode, Andrew Trimble shares what it took for Ireland to finally beat the All Blacks in Chicago 2016.


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From the belief built under Joe Schmidt to the leadership of Sexton & Rory Best, Trimble opens up about the preparation, pressure, and defining moments that changed Irish rugby forever.

A must-listen for rugby fans and players ahead of another epic Ireland-All Blacks clash.


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4 days ago
22 minutes 22 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Conrad Smith on Connection, Culture & Winning Under Pressure

All Blacks legend Conrad Smith breaks down the habits behind sustained success: shared leadership, role clarity, reading the game, and handling World Cup pressure. He also opens up about life after rugby and his work supporting player welfare and purpose. Essential listening for players, coaches, and anyone who leads teams.


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1 week ago
1 hour 14 minutes 25 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Babalwa Latsha: The Psychology Behind the Scrum and Finding Purpose in Adversity

South African rugby trailblazer Babalwa Latsha reveals how she approaches the scrum as a mind game, not just a battle of strength.


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She dives into:
• The mindset and technique behind women’s rugby• How role models like Beast Mtawarira and Serena Williams shaped her• The mental toughness it takes to recover from injury and stay grounded in purpose.


Hosted by Coach Gurthro Steenkamp and Ben Pegna on Lessons From The Game.


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1 week ago
15 minutes 7 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Charlie Hodgson: Reflection, Resilience & the Power of Reframing

Charlie Hodgson, one of England’s most respected fly-halves, joins Lessons from the Game to share the mindset that shaped his rugby journey — from moments of pressure and injury to personal growth and success beyond the field.


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In this honest and insightful conversation with Gurthro Steenkamp and Ben Pegna, Charlie opens up about:


  • The power of reflection and reframing setbacks into growth

  • Managing performance anxiety and pressure in elite rugby

  • The “Effort Error vs Skill Error” philosophy that built accountability and trust at Saracens

  • Finding identity and purpose after professional rugby

  • How mindset and self-awareness can redefine success in sport and life



A masterclass in resilience, perspective, and personal evolution from one of rugby’s most thoughtful playmakers.


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2 weeks ago
1 hour 4 minutes 40 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
The Secret to Building Great Rugby Players (Not Just Great Systems)

It’s not about systems — it’s about players.

Alan Zondagh shares the mindset behind decades of coaching success: turning “Dopeys” into internationals. With AB Zondagh, he unpacks the Ball Man concept, the Rugby Speedometer, and the balance between structure and creativity in modern attack.


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A must-listen for coaches who want to build smarter, braver, more skillful players — not just patterns.


🎯 Key Takeaways


  • Great coaching = developing better decision-makers

  • The Ball Man model for faster, instinctive attack

  • Why bravery and patience matter in skill acquisition

  • The Speed-Space-Connection framework explained


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2 weeks ago
11 minutes 33 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Morne Steyn: The Ice Man – How Pressure Built a Legend of South African Rugby

From a 53m Lions series-winner in 2009 to repeating the fairytale in 2021, Morne Steyn breaks down how composure is trained, not born. We unpack the Bulls brotherhood, why today’s kickers struggle with consistency, how screens and over-structure affect vision, and what real “player-led” standards look like.


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Morne Steyn is a Springbok legend, three-time Super Rugby champion (Bulls), Top 14 winner (Stade Français), and the definition of clutch. Now a kicking consultant (Lions), entrepreneur, and founder of the MS10 clinics/foundation.


What you’ll learn


  • Pressure mastery: routines, “five-for-five” finish rule, and training under consequence.

  • Consistency vs. talent: why 80% is the true pro benchmark for goal-kickers.

  • Vision & decision-making: being 1–2 phases ahead; kicking first, then playing.

  • Bulls DNA: family culture, hard sessions, and why extra work matters.

  • Modern game truths: GPS trade-offs, over-coaching, and screen time’s impact on awareness.

  • Adapting abroad: language, culture, and leading as a 10 in France.


    Chapters


    00:00 The Journey of Mournay Steyn

    02:45 Lessons from Rugby: Discipline and Hard Work

    06:01 Iconic Moments: The 2009 British and Irish Lions Series

    08:49 Reflections on a Successful Career

    11:46 The Bulls Family: Team Spirit and Success

    15:01 The Importance of Hard Work and Training

    18:02 The Mindset of a Kicker: Pressure and Performance

    20:52 The Evolution of Goal Kicking in Rugby

    24:03 Adapting to Change: Playing in France

    27:04 Giving Back: Coaching and Mentoring the Next Generation

    30:10 The Future of Rugby: Insights and Advice



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3 weeks ago
1 hour 10 minutes 2 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Train Great, Play Average? Why It Doesn’t Transfer — and How to Fix It

Why doesn’t a great training week show up on Saturday? Coach G and Ben break down the transfer gap—training design that mirrors the game, guided discovery vs over-coaching, player ownership and reviews, managing mental load, and simple lifestyle wins (sleep, hydration). We share pro & amateur case studies and tease a masterclass to turn prep into performance.

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3 weeks ago
26 minutes 35 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
How Women’s Rugby Proved the World Wrong | Resilience, Equality & Changing the Game - Stef Evans

Former player Stef Evans joins Gurthro Steenkamp and Ben Begna on Lessons from the Game to share her powerful journey — from early rejection in sport to becoming a driving force for women’s rugby worldwide.


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Founder of Ragged RFC and the I Care Movement, Stef opens up about inclusion, inequality, entrepreneurship, and the evolution of women’s rugby.

A conversation about resilience, belonging, and proving the world wrong.


Chapters


00:00 Celebrating Women's Rugby Achievements

02:57 The Evolution of Women's Rugby

05:59 Personal Journeys in Rugby

09:02 The Impact of Inclusivity in Rugby

12:11 Challenges Faced by Female Rugby Players

14:51 The Role of Community and Support

18:10 Transitioning from Player to Coach

21:02 The Future of Women's Rugby

23:58 Lessons Learned from the Game



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3 weeks ago
1 hour 21 minutes 55 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Ali Williams: Injuries, Setbacks & the Harsh Truth About Resilience in Rugby

Ali Williams reflects with Gurthro Steenkamp and Ben Pegna on the darkest times of his career — the injuries, benchings, and mistakes that nearly broke him — and the lessons he learned about resilience, vulnerability, and putting the team before yourself.


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A raw and powerful episode for any player, coach, or fan who wants to understand what it really takes to succeed at the top level of rugby.


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1 month ago
13 minutes 21 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Dan Van Zyl: From Cricket to Springboks – Resilience, Mentorship & Building Rugby Pathways

From Loftus ball boy to Springbok, Dan Van Zyl’s story is about resilience, transition, and mentorship. He opens up about juggling cricket and rugby, the shift to professionalism, and how he’s now shaping young players through Rugby Academy Ireland. A must-listen for players, coaches, and anyone chasing growth in rugby and life.


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Chapters


00:00 The Journey of a Multi-Sport Athlete

04:42 Lessons from the Game: Sharing Knowledge

06:51 Roots in Rugby and Cricket

12:30 Mindset and Individual Performance

16:31 Transitioning to Professional Rugby

24:26 The Shift to Professionalism in Rugby

28:37 Learning from Experience: The Springbok Journey

36:23 Building Resilience in Young Players

42:30 The Role of the Dirt Tracker

47:25 Attributes for Success in Rugby

52:22 Coaching and Mentorship in Ireland

01:05:31 Giving Back: The Mission of Rugby Academy Ireland



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1 month ago
1 hour 11 minutes 45 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Richie Gray: Coach People, Not Players — Building “Accurate Aggression”

Contact & collision specialist Richie Gray shares why the best coaches “coach people, not players,” and how to create accurate aggression—the controlled edge that wins tackles and breakdowns. We dig into earning trust in superstar environments, keeping messages simple under fatigue, individualizing coaching inside a team, Fiji’s shared-vision culture, and drill-based training that sharpens technique while lowering injury risk. Hosted by Gurthro “Coach G” Steenkamp & Ben Pegna.


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1 month ago
21 minutes 11 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Dan Norton: Life After Rugby, Sevens Glory & Lessons from the World’s Leading Try Scorer

Dan Norton – the all-time leading try scorer in World Rugby Sevens and a two-time Olympian – joins Lessons from the Game to share the mindset, habits, and lessons that kept him at the top for over 14 years.


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In this powerful conversation with Gurthro Steenkamp and Ben Pegna, Dan opens up about:


  • The rivalries that pushed him to new heights 🏉

  • How he stayed consistent, fit, and fast across more than a decade of elite rugby

  • The importance of self-analysis and mental resilience in high performance

  • Insights for young players: scanning, decision-making & becoming a student of the game

  • The transition from rugby to life after sport in Dubai and finding a new identity


Chapters


00:00 The Journey of a Rugby Legend

06:00 Mental Resilience in High-Pressure Situations

11:58 The Evolution of Sevens Rugby

18:11 Lessons from the Game: Skills and Strategies

24:04 The Impact of COVID-19 on Rugby Careers

29:51 Transitioning from Player to Coach

35:46 Reflections on Identity and Legacy

42:13 The Future of Sevens Rugby in the UK

48:09 Memorable Moments and Experiences in Rugby

54:01 Final Thoughts and Advice for Aspiring Players



Whether you’re a player chasing improvement, a coach building teams, or a fan of rugby’s most electric athletes, this episode is packed with lessons on performance, mindset, and resilience.


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1 month ago
1 hour 14 minutes 13 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Process Beats Panic: Why You’re Only As Good As Your Last Game

You’re only as good as your last game. In this short-form episode, Coach G and Ben unpack why process beats panic, how to crush negative head talk, and the reset tool pros use: Step Back → Step Up → Step Back In.



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1 month ago
19 minutes 21 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Building the Saracens Wolfpack — Resilience, Leadership & Life After Rugby⎮ Brad Barritt

Brad Barritt unpacks how Saracens built the Wolfpack culture, why resilience is the ultimate competitive edge, and how shared leadership empowered stars like Owen Farrell and Maro Itoje. He also details Brendan Venter’s “17% of your time” philosophy, the stonecutter mindset behind bouncing back from setbacks, and his transition from elite rugby into Tikitonga Coffee, fintech and venture capital.


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Perfect for players, coaches, and leaders who want practical takeaways on culture, mindset, and performance.


Chapters


00:00 The Journey of Resilience

03:06 Building a Winning Culture at Saracens

05:57 The Importance of Leadership and Team Dynamics

09:00 The Wolf Pack Mentality

11:56 Psychology of Success and Overcoming Setbacks

15:01 The Role of Individual Identity in Team Success

18:08 Shared Leadership and Genuine Leadership Traits

20:48 The Evolution of Saracens' Playing Style

24:03 The Stone Cutter Analogy and Its Impact

30:11 The Journey to Success

32:47 Preparing for Life After Rugby

34:47 Building a Coffee Brand

38:05 Transitioning from Player to Entrepreneur

42:34 Resilience in the Face of Adversity

49:30 The Meaning of Representing England

54:53 Reflections on Injuries and Team Spirit


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1 month ago
59 minutes 56 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Back to School Rugby Lessons: Making Your Mark as a Young Player

Heading back to school or joining a new team can be challenging—especially for young rugby players. In this episode, Coach G and Ben Pegna break down how to build confidence, make a strong impression, and find your place both on and off the field. Packed with lessons for players, coaches, and parents.


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1 month ago
18 minutes 14 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Attack, Attack, Attack: Alan & AB Zondagh on Unlocking Rugby’s Creative DNA

Attack, Attack, Attack.

This week on Lessons From The Game, Gurthro Steenkamp & Ben Pegna welcome a special father-son duo: Alan Zondagh, one of rugby’s most respected coaching minds, and AB Zondagh, a progressive attack coach with experience at the Sharks, Toulouse, Scotland, and Lyon.


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They dive into:

  • Why attacking flair is vital in modern rugby

  • The Zondaghs’ philosophy of Speed, Space & Connection

  • Coaching players to think, adapt, and create under pressure

  • Stories from Saracens, Western Province, and the Springboks

  • Their new book: Attack, Attack, Attack

An inspiring episode for players and coaches who want to bring back creativity and courage into rugby.


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1 month ago
1 hour 17 minutes 50 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Springboks vs All Blacks: Inside Rugby’s Greatest Rivalry | Lessons From The Game

The Springboks vs the All Blacks – rugby’s ultimate rivalry.


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In this episode, Gurthro Steenkamp and Ben Pegna explore what it takes to face the All Blacks in their own backyard, leadership lessons from Siya Kolisi and Jesse Kriel, and why controlling the controllables matters more than the hype.


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2 months ago
19 minutes 15 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
From ‘Too Big’ to Rugby’s X-Factor Lock | JJ van der Mescht

In this episode of Lessons From The Game, we sit down with JJ van der Mescht, the towering South African lock now making waves at Northampton Saints. From his days as a multi-sport schoolboy in Durban, to a headline move to France with Stade Français, JJ shares how he turned doubts about his size into fuel for success.


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We unpack his journey of resilience, mental strength, and belief, his transformation from being labelled “overweight” to becoming a dominant force in the scrum, and how he balances professional rugby with coaching and building his real estate business.


This is a powerful conversation for young props, locks, and coaches looking to learn what it takes to dominate on and off the field.


Chapters


00:00 The Journey of JJ van der Meest

05:05 Belief and Self-Confidence in Rugby

11:34 The Importance of Pre-Season Training

17:45 Multi-Sport Background and Its Impact

23:26 Navigating the Path to Professional Rugby

29:10 Experiences in South African Rugby

32:24 Transitioning to Stade Francais

36:31 The Move to Northampton Saints

41:51 Mental Health and Balancing Life

47:19 Setting Goals and Improving Skills

52:09 Future Aspirations Beyond Rugby


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2 months ago
1 hour 4 minutes 26 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
Discipline, Leadership & Aggression — Corné Krige on Captaining SA in Rugby’s Toughest Era

In this short-form episode of Lessons from the Game, former Springbok captain Corné Krige shares the lessons that shaped his journey as a leader.


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From the importance of discipline to leading South Africa through one of rugby’s toughest transitional eras, Corné reflects on:


  • The life-changing influence of Nelson Mandela.
  • Why discipline is the foundation of success on and off the field.
  • How being “too small” forced him to play with unmatched aggression.
  • The leadership values that carried him through the hardest moments.



Corné’s story goes beyond rugby — it’s about resilience, values, and leadership that apply in sport, business, and life.


🎧 Listen now and get inspired by one of South Africa’s most courageous leaders.


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#Rugby #Springboks #Leadership #Discipline #NelsonMandela #LessonsFromTheGame

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2 months ago
12 minutes 44 seconds

The Lessons From The Game Podcast
From Journalist to Rugby Super-Agent: Damien Dussault on Mindset, Agents & the Business of Rugby

This week on Lessons From The Game, Coach G and Ben Pegna are joined by rugby super-agent Damien Dussault. From his start as a journalist to representing players worldwide, Damien has seen the game from every angle.


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We dive into:


  • What players need to know about agents

  • The mindset differences between good and great players

  • The reality of French rugby and Top 14 life

  • Stories of resilience, setbacks, and bouncing back


    Chapters


    00:00 The Journey of a Rugby Agent

    06:18 Mindset Over Contracts

    19:59 Navigating the Rugby Landscape

    25:57 The Role of an Agent

    36:11 Cultural Adaptation in Rugby

    49:09 The Allure of Top 14 Rugby

    56:27 Misconceptions About French Rugby

    01:03:43 The Human Side of Being an Agent



  • 💡 A must-listen for players, coaches, and anyone passionate about rugby.


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    2 months ago
    1 hour 21 minutes 26 seconds

    The Lessons From The Game Podcast
    Lessons From The Game Podcast Hosted by Gurthro Steenkamp and Ben Pegna, this podcast dives into performance, mindset, and resilience. With insights from athletes, coaches, and leaders, we explore the lessons rugby teaches about success—both on and off the field. 🎙 COMING SOON 20 FEBRUARY Perfect for rugby enthusiasts, coaches, and anyone seeking inspiration to elevate their game and life.