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The Laymens Lounge
www.TheLaymensLounge.com
155 episodes
4 days ago
Podcast interviews for everyday Christians trying to navigate normal everyday stuff that make up our wonderful (yet often horrible) existence. Listen-in as we (an appliance salesman and a business process analyst) interview Theologians about normal stuff - a Theology of, and for, us laymen (you know, our stuff like: work, leisure, hiking, sex, fighting, art, beer, music, self-image, doubt, the Gospel, depression, sales, baseball, the church, hippies, annoying neighbors, family, etc.). 
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Podcast interviews for everyday Christians trying to navigate normal everyday stuff that make up our wonderful (yet often horrible) existence. Listen-in as we (an appliance salesman and a business process analyst) interview Theologians about normal stuff - a Theology of, and for, us laymen (you know, our stuff like: work, leisure, hiking, sex, fighting, art, beer, music, self-image, doubt, the Gospel, depression, sales, baseball, the church, hippies, annoying neighbors, family, etc.). 
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155. Head Coverings: Yes, It's A Timeless Command (and No Its Not Hair)—Stop Pretending They’re Not (With Dale Partridge)

Everyone loves sola Scriptura - until it comes to head coverings. As we celebrate Luther’s call to go ad fontes, maybe it’s time we stop editing the Bible with our feelings and the good old get of jail "it's cultural" card. Join us as we talk with Dale Partridge, author of A Cover for Glory: A Biblical Defense for Headcoverings, about why head coverings aren’t optional, it's not your hair, and it's not “just cultural.”

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4 days ago
45 minutes 35 seconds

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154. Saint and Sinner/Simul Justus et Peccator: The Joy of Knowing Where We Stand Before God and Not Being Crushed as we Stand Before Man (with Luke Kjolhaug)

As we celebrate Reformation month, Luke Kjolhaug joins us to unpack Luther’s life-giving insight that we are simul justus et peccator — both saint and sinner. We discuss how this truth frees us from despair and lets us rest in the finished work of Christ.

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5 days ago
49 minutes 19 seconds

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153. Luther Rising: The Storm Before the Theses (With Adam Francisco)

Before Luther ever took hammer to door, forces were already at work reshaping the soul of Europe and Christianity. In this episode, Adam Francisco joins us to unpack the theological disputes, the issues of the scholastics and vain philosophy, the need for ad fontes, and longing for reform that pushed a young monk toward his historic stand at Wittenberg.

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6 days ago
57 minutes 42 seconds

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152. The Afscheiding: The Other October Reformation - A Brief History of the Dutch Church Secession of 1834 w/ Robert P. Swierenga

On October 31, 1517, the Protestant Reformation began—a monumental reclaiming of truth from its usurpers. But October also marks another vital act of reformation: the 1834 Dutch Afscheiding (Secession). Join us as we sit down with Robert Swierenga for a short primer on this historic movement.

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1 week ago
53 minutes 19 seconds

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151. Joel Beeke: The Doctrine of Man, Obedience, and the State of the Church

Join us as we sit down with Joel Beeke who co-author of the forthcoming book “Essentials of Reformed Systematic Theology” published by Crossway (expected around Nov 4). Here we discuss Theology-as-hobby guys, Bavinck vs Kuyper, Paedo vs Creedo, Classical Theism, obedience, Young Restless Reformed and all manner of subjects.

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1 month ago
1 hour 21 seconds

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150. What Now? America (One Million Charlie Kirks)

Today, the day after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, Pastor Michael Foster sent out a short article on his Substack and posted it on X. It read like a manifesto, but rooted in reformation and not revolution. I sent it to no less than 40 people. I asked Michael if I could read it on this episode of TheLaymensLounge.com and He has given me permission to do just that. The article is called “What Now?” Please listen and share.

Follow Michael Foster on X @thisisfoster

https://www.thisisfoster.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

https://x.com/thisisfoster/status/1966171803249946760

Jon Harris has written and shared on his Twitter the song “America (One Million Charlie Kirks)" - you can listen to it here:

https://x.com/jonharris1989/status/1966246387080978830

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1 month ago
12 minutes 35 seconds

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149. Robert Swierenga: Who is Albertus Van Raalte (1811-1876)?

Dutch Reformer, Institution Founder & Michigan Entrepreneur

Albertus Christiaan Van Raalte was born in 1811 in the Netherlands, was a pillar in the Afscheiding, sat under Groen van Prinsterer, was always running from the law, wrote letters to Abraham Kuyper to not over-work (which council Kuyper failed to apply), led the emigrations to Michigan, helped start Hope College and Western Seminary, and loved him so church polity. To talk about Van Raalte we are joined by the living-legend Robert Swierenga, author of “A. C. Van Raalte: Pastor by Vocation, Entrepreneur by Necessity.”

A stagnant economy, premodern agriculture, and high population growth had led to a sense of hopelessness. Then Enlightenment rationalism and political discontent cast the Dutch Reformed Church adrift in a sea of doubt and uncertainty. This set the stage for the welcome by Dutch liberals of invading French “liberators” in 1795 and the formation of the Batavian Republic, which disestablished the public church. French dominance increased under Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte who established the Kingdom of Holland under his brother Louis in 1804 and made the nation a French vassal state in 1810. The new regime introduced the French Civil Code and modernized an antiquated bureaucracy, bringing with it new taxes and intrusive regulations, such as the first national census, universal military conscription, a civil registry, and other constraints. Young Albertus received the best education the Netherlands could offer in the nineteenth century—parochial day school, Athenaeum, and university. He became an itinerant pastor who planted congregations in the largely rural province of Overijssel. When desperate poverty drove thousands of these Separatists to emigrate to America in the 1840s, Van Raalte himself decided to emigrate and lead his followers to safer pastures. Had he remained in the homeland, as did all but a few of his colleagues, his life would have been comfortable and in familiar surroundings, within his subculture and its routines. Emigrating overseas never entered his mind until midlife, but doing so lifted him to a dynamic role in a period of change in both countries, with different speeds, directions, opportunities, and threats.

The two major Dutch Reformed colonies in the 1840s were those of A. C. Van Raalte in Holland, Michigan, and Rev. Hendrik (Henry) P. Scholte in Pella, Iowa. Van Raalte and Scholte, erstwhile friends in the Netherlands, faced a role reversal in America, and they became rivals, competing for settlers and influence. Pella had the early advantage because Scholte had brought almost nine hundred followers, compared to Van Raalte’s fewer than one hundred. But Scholte’s religious independence and refusal to join the American branch of the Reformed Church, as Van Raalte did, hurt his recruitment efforts. The poverty-stricken Holland colony was isolated and twenty miles from the nearest market towns. But thanks to its harbor, wood products shipped to insatiable Chicago markets paid for provisions and supplies that were brought back on return sailings. Holland’s harbor offered easy sailing to Chicago and other Great Lake ports as far away as Buffalo and even New York City via the Erie Canal. Kalamazoo, fifty-five miles southeast, provided a direct rail connection to New York. Pella in south-central Iowa lay fifty miles from Des Moines, the capitol and nearest large city, and it had no railroad service for twenty years. As a result, it remained for generations a small, market town that serviced farms within twenty miles. Holland lay astride the two most productive agricultural counties in Michigan—Ottawa and Allegan. The Holland area today has five or six times the population of the Pella area. And Holland’s diverse industrial economy far surpasses that of Iowa’s agricultural economy. In the rivalry with Scholte, Van Raalte’s accomplishments became the embodiment of what Scholte had hoped to achieve.

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1 year ago
1 hour 1 minute 57 seconds

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148. William Boekestein: A Guide for Finding Your Vocation & Humanity

The Piety of a Normal Job & the Process to Arrive There

“How can I pick the right job?” Actually, you don't need to choose a job that's "perfect for you." But you do need to be productive in ways that honor God in your work life. Here's a better question: As a believer, how can I determine what I am supposed to do, and then do it well? The doctrine of calling, or vocation, will lead you to the answer. All this, and more, as we sit down with William Boekestein and discuss his new book “Finding My Vocation: A Guide for Young People Seeking a Calling."

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1 year ago
56 minutes 30 seconds

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147. Forrest Dickison: When A Children's Book Gets Gender Right

Most children’s book and entertainment are woefully lame (and, of course, most adult books and entertainment are lame as well [(did you guys see that there is an Amazon show for clowns that has a black, gay, handicap King of England?]). In attempts to counteract that (often with good intentions) authors who seek to position the male lead in his rightful masculine place often, perhaps unknowing to them (perhaps in their knee-jerk reaction resulting in overcorrection), will often relegate the female role to a truncated picture of optimal biblical femininity. However, in Forrest Dickison’s new children’s book “Crispin’s Rainy Day” we don’t get that sort of sloppy work. Sons of Adam and daughters of Eve are given a proper account that aligns aright with their respective roles as bearers of the image of God. Join me as I sit down with Dickison and discuss what goes into a penning a book for children, toads and pirates, and, how, being a father of daughters, Forrest accounts for the role of both boys and girls in a way that does your kids right.

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1 year ago
29 minutes 53 seconds

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146. Megan Basham: What Happens When Bootlickers and Sellouts Get Called Out

Megan Basham, author of “Shepherds for Sale: How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda” joins The Laymen’s Lounge to discuss all the dust that’s been kicked up as a result of all the bootlickers and sellouts getting called out.

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1 year ago
27 minutes 57 seconds

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145. Aaron Renn: The Moral Minority

For years, when folks were taking stock of our cultural moment in regard to faith and such, it was a given that people would reference Charles Taylor. As of late, however, I've started noticing every book, article, and podcast I've digested is referencing Aaron Renn and his observations and analysis in connection with his book "Life in the Negative World: Confronting Challenges in an Anti-Christian Culture." With the help of this framework, join us as we discuss with Renn everything from the SBC, Doug Wilson, and Jordan Peterson to Taylor Swift, Disney, and short-term missions.

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1 year ago
58 minutes 22 seconds

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144. Scott Hatch: Cornelius Van Til's Christian Ethics of Telos

Join us as we sit down with Scott Hatch and discuss his new book "Van Til and the Foundation of Christian Ethics: A God-Centered Approach to Moral Philosophy." Unveiling the often-overlooked significance of Cornelius Van Til in the realm of Reformed ethics, this work draws light upon his unique moral philosophy. Grounded in the covenantal epistemology and metaphysics typically employed for apologetics, Van Til masterfully harmonized his insights with those of Geerhardus Vos’ biblical theology. In contrast to many ethicists who concentrate on formulating and applying principles, Van Til focused his attention on the Christian’s greatest good (summum bonum), which is God himself. His dedication to exploring the ethical implications of this divine starting point produced a standard of God-centeredness in moral philosophy that remains distinctive among Reformed thinkers, setting him apart even from his students, such as Greg Bahnsen, John Frame, and Meredith Kline, who have also contributed substantially to Reformed ethics. Amidst the rise of moral relativism in the mid-twentieth century, Van Til’s stance was steadfast. This book, which includes a new critical edition of Van Til’s Christian Theistic Ethics, reveals how, against the backdrop of this challenging era, he not only successfully defended Christian ethical foundations but also holistically integrated ethics with the rest of Christian theology, reinforcing its relevance and import.

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1 year ago
1 hour 1 minute 12 seconds

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143. David Bahnsen: Bid "Dark Night of the Soul Christianity" Adieu

The Image-Bearing Piety of Being a Cog in the Wheel

If you read one book this year let it be David Bahnsen’s “Full-Time: Work and the Meaning of Life.” Why? Well, you know there are three persons in one God, and you know that you are saved by grace alone through faith alone, you know you would do well to be a part of a local church, etc. (and you do well to know and consider these things), but is that extent of the Christian life? Is your telos in this life to just white-knuckle it until you swept away yonder by and by? Surely there must be something more to this life than mere prep for the afterlife. Work must be more than just a medium to evangelize and support missionaries… Yes, yes! Tis true! There is more! Rejoice in your telos, in the glorious blessing of work that has been given you! When we work, we reflect the image of God, we have an intuitive sense of firing on all cylinders, and all seems to be in order when we submit to the Lordship of Christ in this most fundamental of spheres (both pragmatically and spiritually). Do read the book – and listen-in as we chat with Bahnsen and catch a primer on what awaits you in these foundational and timely and God-honoring and joy-yielding pages. Pro Rege!

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1 year ago
47 minutes 4 seconds

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142. Stephen Eccher: Zwingli the Third-Wheel of the Reformers

Today we are joined by Stephen Brett Eccher to discuss the firebrand of fidelity that is Ulrich Zwingli in connection with Eccher’s new book “Zwingli the Pastor: A Life in Conflict” from Lexham press.

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1 year ago
1 hour 5 minutes 35 seconds

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141. Ernst Conradie: AA Van Ruler asks was Jesus an "Emergency Measure"?

Was Jesus merely an “emergency measure”? Did Kuyper take the creation and culture far enough? Is the goal of life to “get saved” or is it to get saved unto the end that God intended all along? Do we overemphasize Jesus at the expense of the Trinity? All this, and more, is what the great Dutch Theologian AA Van Ruler causes us to consider. Join us as we sit down with Ernst Conradie and discuss Ernst’s project that saw a series of AA Van Ruler’s essays, called “This Earthly Life Matters," made available in English.

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1 year ago
1 hour 2 minutes 59 seconds

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140. David Fowler: Adam and Steve? Eating Caesar’s Apple

This might be the most important interview we have ever done. We Christians have been so concerned with maintaining our "rights" and focusing on maintaining our (pitiful) "freedom" in society that we have abdicated the very glory and honor of King Jesus and have allowed His good decrees to be trampled. Rather than asserting the crown glory of Christ we have sought ease and comfort at the cost of far too much. In this interview we sit down with the great implicational thinker David Fowler of the "God, Law & Liberty" podcast and we are given a wake-up call. It is time to think through the utterly wicked and far-reaching implications of the U.S. Supreme Court’s analysis in its 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges where the state-demi-gods have redefined marriage. But, we also discuss our own wickedness in doing nothing and seeking ease and peace. By doing nothing we have become guilty of standing approvingly while the state audaciously plays God and assumes it is the arbiter of truth. Yet, as Fowler reminds us, the government doesn’t create truth - its job is to acknowledge truth. Marriage is, and has always been, between a man and a woman who exchange promises before man and God. The shocking reality is that every minister who signs a state marriage license bends their knee to the government's arbitrary definition of marriage and takes it on as their own. It is simply an evil we can not abide. The disastrous and far reaching implications of living in a post-Obergefellian world are daunting, yet, there is much that can and should (must!) be done. We are grateful for David Fowler in sounding the alarm on this great evil. After a damning diagnosis we are offered tangible steps to see true piety take shape not just in our prayer closets but in the halls of congress and every square inch of this world that belongs to our mighty King of Kings. Pro Rege!

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1 year ago
1 hour 22 minutes 54 seconds

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139. Stephen O. Presley: Benedict Option? Kuyperian Option? Or The Early Church Option?

In this episode we are joined by Stephen O. Presley, author of "Cultural Sanctification: Engaging the World like the Early Church." to see if we might glean some insight on how to engage our post-post-Christian-now-pagan-nation.

In an increasingly secular world, Christians are often pulled in two directions. Some urge us to retreat and build insular communities. Others call upon us to wage a culture war, harnessing the government to shore up Christian cultural power.

But there is another way—and it’s as old as the church itself. Stephen O. Presley takes us back to the first few centuries AD to show us how the first Christians approached cultural engagement. Amid a pagan culture that regarded their faith with suspicion, early Christians founded a religious movement that transformed the ancient world. Looking to great theologians like Augustine, Origen, and Tertullian, Presley shows how the early church approached politics, family, public life, and more. From these examples, he draws lessons for practicing authentic, pious discernment in how we engage with the wider culture.

The Christians who came before us endured persecution to share a vision of human flourishing that changed the world. Following in their footsteps, we can sanctify our society through social witness. Readers anxious about shifting cultural tides will be left with hope in the already-present kingdom of God and the promised resurrection.


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1 year ago
57 minutes 35 seconds

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138. Timothy Decker: Does Romans 13 Require Unqualified Obedience to the State?

Today talking with Pastor Timothy Decker author of “A Revolutionary Reading of Romans 13: A Biblical Case for Lawful Subjection to the Civil Magistrate and Dutiful Resistance to Tyrants”


Does Romans 13 command Christians a near unqualified obedience toward the civil magistrate? Is there an appropriate occasion and even a duty to resist tyranny, even if the tyranny is not sinful, per se? The aim of this book is to shed light on the fact that Paul's appeal for submission to governmental authorities in Romans 13 is far narrower than it so often gets treated. The many events and crises of 2020 revealed the broad brush strokes Christians often painted with it and thereby abuse of it. It is here argued that the apostle Paul wrote Romans 13 within a specific historical context, a pastoral occasion if you will, to take up the matter of warding off the common Jewish revolutionary spirit so pervasive in that period. Such a sentiment of private revolution among church members of Rome would have undermined a Gentile government and thereby destroyed the gospel influence of the Christian church in Rome. In this way, this book offers a revolutionary reading of Romans 13—that Paul opposed private revolution among private citizens. Therefore, rightly understood, Romans 13 teaches lawful subjection to the civil magistrate while at the same time affirming a Christian's duty to resist tyranny.

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1 year ago
1 hour 10 minutes 23 seconds

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137. Paula Maddox: Humble Conversations by Listening

Today we are talking with the delightful Dr Paula Maddox. Author of "THINK Globally LEAD Strategically: A Christian Guide to Building Effective Leaders" and are reminded of the wisdom of slowing down and listening. Dr Maddox, like Proverbs and Francis Schaffer reminds us to walk/talk in humility and be wise with our words and lead with our ears.

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1 year ago
44 minutes 49 seconds

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136. Andrew Crapuchettes: Job Opportunities Beyond Woke Culture & Mandatory "Microagression" Training

Many Christians are wearied by the self-censorship at our workplaces for fear the blue-haired they/them in the next cubicle will report us for microaggression and misgendering the man with the dress. Join us as we sit down Andrew Crapuchettes, founder/CEO of RedBalloon, America's largest and most successful non-woke job board and talent connector. In this interview we discuss the potential folly of a college degree, why businesses will still push the woke agenda even if it costs them customers, how organizing at the worker-level to fight against woke-requirements is both a legal and advisable action plan, and how to find a good job for freedom loving, God fearing Christians who have conviction that the lord really is Lord of all.

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1 year ago
48 minutes 30 seconds

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Podcast interviews for everyday Christians trying to navigate normal everyday stuff that make up our wonderful (yet often horrible) existence. Listen-in as we (an appliance salesman and a business process analyst) interview Theologians about normal stuff - a Theology of, and for, us laymen (you know, our stuff like: work, leisure, hiking, sex, fighting, art, beer, music, self-image, doubt, the Gospel, depression, sales, baseball, the church, hippies, annoying neighbors, family, etc.).