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The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Darren Wurz, CFP
139 episodes
5 days ago
The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast is the go-to show for ambitious law firm owners who want to grow their practice, build personal wealth, and achieve true financial freedom. Hosted by financial planner and business strategist Darren Wurz, this podcast delivers actionable strategies to help you scale your firm, increase profitability, and design a future beyond billable hours.

Each week, you’ll discover:
• Practical law firm growth strategies to attract clients, improve efficiency, and scale sustainably
• Exclusive insights on financial planning for lawyers, including retirement, tax strategies, and exit planning
• Real stories from successful law firm owners who’ve built thriving practices and financial independence
• Tools to help you step out of the day-to-day grind and focus on becoming the CEO of your firm

Whether you’re a solo attorney ready to grow, a managing partner scaling a team, or a law firm owner planning your exit, this podcast gives you the roadmap to transform your practice into a wealth-building asset.

Subscribe to The Lawyer Millionaire today and learn how to grow your law firm, build wealth, and achieve the freedom you’ve always wanted.
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The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast is the go-to show for ambitious law firm owners who want to grow their practice, build personal wealth, and achieve true financial freedom. Hosted by financial planner and business strategist Darren Wurz, this podcast delivers actionable strategies to help you scale your firm, increase profitability, and design a future beyond billable hours.

Each week, you’ll discover:
• Practical law firm growth strategies to attract clients, improve efficiency, and scale sustainably
• Exclusive insights on financial planning for lawyers, including retirement, tax strategies, and exit planning
• Real stories from successful law firm owners who’ve built thriving practices and financial independence
• Tools to help you step out of the day-to-day grind and focus on becoming the CEO of your firm

Whether you’re a solo attorney ready to grow, a managing partner scaling a team, or a law firm owner planning your exit, this podcast gives you the roadmap to transform your practice into a wealth-building asset.

Subscribe to The Lawyer Millionaire today and learn how to grow your law firm, build wealth, and achieve the freedom you’ve always wanted.
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The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
The “Inner Game” of Networking: How Lawyers Can Build Confidence and Connections (Ep. 138)
Ever felt like you’re stuck playing catch-up in the quest for high-value clients? Maybe you’ve poured energy into sales tactics, attended dozens of networking events, and still wondered am I connecting the right way, or just blending into the crowd? If you’re a law firm owner who craves not only growth, but genuine relationships that move your business forward, you’re not alone.
On this episode of The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, host Darren Wurz sits down with executive coach  and author Nancy Fox to reveal the real secret behind building lasting, lucrative connections in the legal industry. Forget outdated approaches or “sell harder” mantras. This episode is all about how to network smarter, cultivate confidence, and leverage AI tools to prepare for those make-or-break conversations.
Darren and Nancy discusses:

* The major thing people get wrong about networking.
* How to get over the fear of networking.
* The evolution of sales in 2025 and beyond.
* Why curiosity and generosity are powerful networking tools.
* Proven strategies for following up and turning relationships into long-term opportunities
* The interplay between luck and skill.

 
Resources:

A Random Walk Down Wall Street: The Best Investment Guide That Money Can Buy by Burton G. Malkiel
* 10x Is Easier Than 2x: How World-Class Entrepreneurs Achieve More by Doing Less by Dan Sullivan
* The Psychology of Money: Timeless Lessons On Wealth, Greed, and Happiness by Morgan Housel
* The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference by Malcolm Gladwell

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* “Join our Next Masterclass Live”
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free
* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz

 
Connect with Nancy Fox:

* Linkedin: Nancy Fox
* Website: WYZE Rainmakers
* Website: 51 Icebreaker Questions
* Book: Network Like A Fox – A Targeted Approach To Building Successful Business Relationships In Person And Online by Nancy Fox

 
About Nancy Fox:

Nancy Fox is a former corporate executive who launched her coaching and training business in 1999. She has trained and coached hundreds of  professionals and firms in targeted networking, rainmaking, and business development.​​
Focused on helping clients win the inner and outer game of practice growth and client attraction, her approach marries unique strategy with improving the mindset of professionals and understanding their client’s. 
She has trained, coached or spoken at:
Citrin Cooperman                            Holthouse Carlin (HC...
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5 days ago
33 minutes 27 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
What Law Firm Owners Can Learn From Tulip Mania (Ep. 137)
Are you running your law firm full-throttle, chasing every breakthrough and trend, sometimes wondering if the noise and hype are leading you toward the future or straight into chaos?
On this episode of the Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, we are going back into time to dissect what what Tulip Mania from 1637 can teach modern law firm owners about the psychology behind financial bubbles.
Darren Wurz breaks it down with timeless lessons in discipline, strategy and long-term success, thus providing the ultimate cautionary tale about speculation, FOMO and the danger of building dreams on hype.
Darren discusses:

* The parallels you can draw between Tulip Mania and today’s trends in investing, such as AI or cryptocurrency.
* How irrational excitement and herd mentality can disrupt your investment and business decisions.
* Why discipline and leaning on the boring business fundamentals beat flashy trends.
* Why financial manias are driven by human nature, not logic.
* How law firm owners can ensure they are making business decisions based on conviction, not comparison.
* Practical tips for resisting FOMO, staying grounded and building a business that lasts far beyond the hype train.

 
Resources:

A Random Walk Down Wall Street: The Best Investment Guide That Money Can Buy by Burton G. Malkiel

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

 
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1 week ago
15 minutes 2 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
How Law Firm Owners Can Build Cash Flow Stability with Charles Harris, CPA (Ep. 136)
On this episode, host Darren Wurz sits down with Charles Harris, an accountant who specializes in helping law firm owners get their books and their business on solid ground. If you’ve ever wondered how to sort out your firm’s finances, pay yourself with confidence, and build an emergency fund that lets you sleep at night, this episode is for you.
Charles and Darren don’t mince words about the real challenges law firm owners face: commingled accounts, unpredictable income, mounting expenses, and the anxiety of being only one mistake away from trouble. They offer practical, straightforward solutions that you can put into action immediately. And yes, it’s the same advice they give their own clients and follow themselves.
Darren and Charles discuss:

* Why you need to separate your business and personal finances.
* Insights from “The Unsexy Entrepreneurship podcast”.
* How to effectively manage IOLTA accounts.
* How law firm owners can weigh short-term tax savings against long-term profit maximization
* The importance of law firm owners paying themselves a reasonable, regular salary.
* How to build business and personal emergency funds.
* Practical advice for law firm owners on hiring executive assistants vs paralegals

 
Resources:

A Random Walk Down Wall Street: The Best Investment Guide That Money Can Buy by Burton G. Malkiel
* Simple Numbers, Straight Talk, Big Profits by Greg Crabtree

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

 
Connect with Charles Harris:

* Email: charles@charriscpa.com
* Website: Charles Harris CPA
* Linkedin: Charles Harris, CPA
* Podcast (Spotify): Unsexy Entrepreneurship
* Podcast (Youtube): Unsexy Entrepreneurship

 
About Charles Harris:
Charles Harris is a CPA who loves to help people understand the numbers of their business. In both tax and accounting roles he has assisted in helping businesses make good decisions to save money and increase profitability.
His specialty is working with small law firms (1-10 attorneys) all across the US. He understands the unique challenges that come with legal practices from maintaining IOLTA accounts in compliance, trust account issues, optimizing partner draws, and ensuring cash flow despite month to month income variations.
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2 weeks ago
38 minutes 15 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Cash Flow for Law Firm Owners Part 2: The #1 Fix for Lumpy Revenue (Ep. 135)
Are you tired of riding the cash flow rollercoaster in your law firm? Maybe you hold your breath between case settlements, wonder where the money really goes, or feel that familiar stress when your income dips unexpectedly. If so, you aren’t alone and you definitely don’t have to figure this out on your own.
On this week’s episode of The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, hosts Darren Wurz and special guest Charley Mann pull back the curtain on one of the biggest game-changers for law firm owners: paying yourself a consistent salary. If cash flow chaos has left you anxious at work and home, this episode offers a fresh, practical way forward.
 
Charley discusses:

* Why predictable personal income leads to better decisions for your firm and family.
* Actionable strategies for stabilizing your finances.
* How financial uncertainty affects leadership and decision-making in law firms.
* The danger of making 5-figure mistakes.
* How to identify your money mindset and how it impacts your financial success.
* The qualities to look for in a financial advisor.

 
Resources:

* Paying Yourself as a Law Firm Owner: A Practical Guide by Darren Wurz
A Random Walk Down Wall Street: The Best Investment Guide That Money Can Buy by Burton G. Malkiel
* Simple Numbers, Straight Talk, Big Profits by Greg Crabtree
* American Gods: A Novel by Neil Gaiman
* Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara
* Profit First: Transform Your Business from a Cash-Eating Monster to a Money-Making Machine by Mike Michalowicz

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

 
Connect with Charley Mann:

* Website: Law Firm Alchemy
* Website: Red Kraken Creative
* Linkedin: Charley Mann
* Podcast: They Don’t Teach This in Law School
* Book: They Don’t Teach This in Law School by Charley Mann with Bryan Austin

 
About Charley Mann:
Charley Mann is the host of “They Don’t Teach This in Law School” and founder of Law Firm Alchemy, a company dedicated to providing resources and coaching for law firm growth. With over 15 years of experience in the legal industry, Charley guides law firm owners in optimizing their practices and achieving success. He emphasizes the importance of networking, providing value, and maintaining strong client relationships, focusing on both business operations and personal growth.
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3 weeks ago
42 minutes 54 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Cash Flow for Law Firm Owners Part 1: Why You Must Separate Business and Personal Finances (Ep. 134)
Let’s be honest: as a law firm owner, juggling unpredictable cash flow, unexpected expenses, and the pressure of growing both your business and personal wealth can feel overwhelming. If you’ve found yourself swiping your firm’s debit card for groceries one week and dipping into your personal savings to make payroll the next, this episode of The Lawyer Millionaire was made for you.
On this episode, host Darren Wurz takes a deep dive into the heart of financial chaos for law firm owners mixing business and personal finances. He explains why this is the single biggest threat to your firm’s long-term success and your peace of mind. But here’s the good news: there’s a simple, practical solution you can put into action today.
Darren discusses:

* The dangers of mixing personal and business finances.
* How separating your accounts can reduce stress and boost profitability.
* How to prevent cash flow confusion from eating your profits.
* Common retirement hurdles law firm owners and how to overcome them.
* The top financial tools to help you manage personal and business finances.

 
Resources:

* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell
* Wave
* Quickbooks
* Relay
* Ally
* Monarch Money
* YNAB

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

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1 month ago
24 minutes 46 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
The #1 Financial Blunder Killing Law Firms And How to Fix it Fast (Ep. 133)
Running a law firm isn’t just about winning cases or delivering great legal advice. If you’re like most ambitious law firm owners, you went to law school not business school and now find yourself juggling the roles of attorney, CEO, bookkeeper, and more. And let’s be real: that’s overwhelming.
On this week’s episode of The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, Darren Wurz sits down with the Co-founder of cpnLEGAL, Peggy Gruenke. She has helped 400+ law firms clean up their books, streamline trust accounting, and scale with confidence
Peggy discusses:

* The risk of managing law firm finances on paper rather than using dedicated financial software.
* Her surprising journey from IT consultant to law firm operations powerhouse.
* The most common blunders law firm owners make with their trust accounting, financial systems, and collections.
* Real world steps for making the shift from practicing lawyer to confident business owner ready to scale.
* How to identify the KPIs that actually matter.

 
Resources:

* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell
* Come Up for Air by Nick Sonnenberg
* 10X is Easier Than 2x by Benjamin Hardy and Dan Sullivan
* Traction: Get a Grip on Your Business by Gino Wickman

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

 
Connect with Peggy Gruenke:

* Email: peggy@cpn-legal.com
* Website: cpnLEGAL
* Linkedin: Peggy Gruenke

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1 month ago
31 minutes 13 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
5 Steps to Building a High Performance Team for Law Firm Owners (Ep. 132)
On this episode of the Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, Darren Wurz discusses the essential steps to building a high-performance team that can help law firm owners buy back their time and scale their businesses. He emphasizes the importance of creating standard operating procedures (SOPs), strategic hiring for A-players, and fostering a culture of feedback and transformational leadership. The episode provides actionable insights and a roadmap for law firm owners to evolve from solopreneurs to effective team builders.
Darren discusses:

* The importance of creating SOPs and documenting your processes.
* Why you need to prioritize attitude over skills when hiring.
* How to use personality and behavioral assessments like DISC or CliftonStrengths in your team-building process.
* The distinction between delegating tasks and delegating outcomes.
* Why the “test first hiring method” could help you avoid costly hiring mistakes in your practice.
* The importance of receiving feedback and how to improve your feedback culture.

 
Resources:

* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell
* High Performance Team Checklist

Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

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1 month ago
25 minutes 7 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Time Management Hacks for Law Firm Owners: Explode Your Productivity and Kill Stress (Ep. 131)
On this episode of The Lawyer Millionaire, host Darren Wurz explores practical productivity hacks for law firm owners, emphasizing the importance of time management, delegation, and effective email strategies.
Drawing insights from Dan Martell’s book, ‘Buy Back Your Time’, Wurz provides actionable tips on time blocking, batching tasks, achieving inbox zero, and empowering team members to make decisions.
The episode concludes with a focus on aligning energy management with time blocking and leveraging technology to enhance productivity.
Darren discusses:

* The hidden dangers of context switching while working on your daily tasks.
* How to use theme days and batching to regain control of your schedule.
* The 1-3-1 rule for problem-solving and how it aids in delegating decisions.
* Achieving Inbox zero and effective email management.
* Why the unrealistic quest for perfectionism negatively impacts your productivity?
* How powerful tools like reclaim.ai helps to prioritize your tasks and manage your calendar.

 
Resources:

* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell
* Reclaim – AI calendar app

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

 
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1 month ago
29 minutes 54 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
The 1st Hire Every Law Firm Owner Needs: How an Executive Assistant Can Free Your Time and Grow Your Firm (Ep. 130)
On this episode of the Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, host Darren Wurz discusses the critical role of an executive assistant in law firms, emphasizing that without one, lawyers often find themselves overwhelmed with administrative tasks.
He introduces the concept of the ‘replacement ladder’ from Dan Martell’s book ‘Buy Back Your Time,’ outlining the stages of delegation that law firm owners should follow to enhance productivity and growth.
Wurtz shares personal experiences and insights on hiring, managing, and effectively utilizing an executive assistant to free up time for more valuable work, ultimately leading to increased revenue and business success.
 
Darren discusses:

* Fresh strategies for breaking free from admin overwhelm so you can focus on billable work, business growth, and your personal life.
* How to overcome the real fears lawyers face when hiring support staff.
* Practical tips for finding and training the right executive assistant to fit your needs.
* How to prepare a playbook for your executive assistant.
* How hiring an executive assistant doubled his firm’s revenue.

 
Resources:

* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell
* Executive Assistant Job Description Template:

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

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2 months ago
27 minutes 20 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Law Firm Owners: Stop $10/hr Work, Reclaim 100 Hours & $100k in Profit (Ep. 129)
If you’re like most law firm owners, your plate isn’t just full, it’s overflowing. You’re handling everything from client calls to casework to the mountain of admin tasks that somehow never ends. You work hard, but does it ever feel like you’re running out of hours while bigger goals get pushed aside? The truth is, it isn’t just about being busy; it’s about being busy with the right things.
On the latest episode of The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, host Darren Wurz tackles the struggle that so many ambitious attorneys face: getting trapped doing work that others could handle for a fraction of your billable rate. He’s here to show you that reclaiming your time isn’t just possible, it’s the key to building a more profitable and enjoyable firm.
This episode covers:

* The biggest hiring struggle for small business owners.
* How to effectively track your time.
* How to run your law firm without it ruining your life.
* Why you must avoid the trap of doing it all yourself.
* How to delegate like successful law firm owners.
* Real world examples of law firm owners breaking free from the mindset traps that keep them stuck.

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The Lawyer Millionaire Listener Challenge
 
Resources:

* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell
* Law Firm Time Audit Worksheet:

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

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2 months ago
27 minutes 8 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Law Firm Marketing: Convert Clicks into Clients with Real ROI (Ep. 128)
Most law firms are pouring money into digital marketing, but are still battling low conversion rates and online anonymity.
On the latest episode of The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, Darren Wurz sits down with Tanner Jones from Consultwebs to uncover what actually drives real ROI for law firm marketing.
This episode covers:

* How to your value and expertise clear from the second someone lands on your website.
* The importance of tracking the right KPIs, don’t just count “leads rather ” count qualified leads with real potential.
* Why investing in your brand can actually LOWER your cost per client in the long run.
* Optimizing for Google without ignoring new AI-driven search platforms.
* How to effectively add social proof such as case studies, testimonials and reviews everywhere your company exists.

 
Enter to win:
The Lawyer Millionaire Listener Challenge
 
Resources:

* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell
* AVVO

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

 
Connect with Tanner Jones:
Linkedin: Tanner Jones
Website: Consultwebs
 
About Tanner Jones
VP of Business Development and
Co-host of the LAWsome podcast

As our Vice President of Business Development, Tanner Jones oversees all business development opportunities for Consultwebs and our clients. He has the privilege of speaking with virtually every law firm that contacts Consultwebs and working with them to determine how we may accomplish their digital marketing goals.
Tanner earned a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration, with a concentration in Management, from Berea College in 2008. His journey with Consultwebs began in 2009, and he now has over a decade of experience consulting with law firms on case-driving online marketing strategies.
He was originally drawn to Consultwebs because of how we have remained a leader in the niche of legal marketing. Tanner often quotes the Canadian hockey player, Wayne Gretzky, when he says, “Skate to where the puck is going, not where it has been.” For Tanner, Consultwebs strives to do just that. He says, “I’ve always been drawn to companies with an intentional focus because it often breeds stronger results, efficiencies, and scalability.

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2 months ago
31 minutes 22 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
The $5k Student Loan Tax Deduction for Law Firm Owners and Other Creative Repayment Strategies (Ep. 127)
Did you know your law firm can cover up to $5,250 of your student loan payments each year tax free?
On the latest episode of The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, Darren Wurz breaks down the Section 127 plan and how law firm owners can use it to pay down student debt more efficiently. This isn’t just great for employees, it works even if you’re a solo owner. Plus, you’ll find insights on new repayment plans, forgiveness options, and the creative strategies successful firms are using to build wealth while tackling student loans.
This episode covers:

* Prevalence of student loan debt among attorneys.
* How to structure your law firm’s payments to save big on taxes.
* Pitfalls to avoid with new repayment plans and deadlines.
* Strategies to use windfalls, home equity, or even life insurance to accelerate your paydown.
* The new RAP plan and how it differs from other income driven repayment plans.


Enter to win:
The Lawyer Millionaire Listener Challenge
 
Resources:

* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

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2 months ago
17 minutes 1 second

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Student Loans Part 3: The Big Dilemma–Invest or Pay Them Off? (Ep. 126)
If you’re a law firm owner staring down a mountain of student loans, you’ve probably asked yourself: “Should I throw every extra dollar at this debt, or is my money better off working for me elsewhere?” Maybe you find comfort watching that loan balance shrink, or perhaps the thought of missing out on big investment gains keeps you up at night.
You’re not alone and you don’t have to figure it out on your own.
In the latest episode of The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, host Darren Wurz digs into this exact crossroads. Forget the guesswork and gut feelings. Darren combines behavioral science, real math, and plain-spoken strategy to help you make your smartest move yet.
 
This episode covers:

* The true cost of paying off student loans versus investing for the future.
* How to run a break-even analysis to see what makes more sense for your bottom line.
* Why mindset and emotions are just as important as the numbers.
* The impact of behavioral biases such as hyperbolic discounting when making financial decisions.
* Practical decision frameworks to help you align your financial choices with your long-term goals.

 
Enter to win:
The Lawyer Millionaire Listener Challenge
 
Resources:

* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Website

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free

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3 months ago
21 minutes 13 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Student Loans Part 2: Federal Law Updates and Repayment Strategies and Tips (Ep. 125)
If you’re a law firm owner, chances are you know the feeling: you’ve built a thriving practice, but those student loans are still lurking in the background. Maybe you’re worried you aren’t making the smartest moves with your repayments, especially since the rules seem to change every year. Well, you’re not alone—and you absolutely don’t have to go it alone, either.
On the latest episode of The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, host Darren Wurz is back with part two of our student loan series. This time, he’s cutting through the noise and breaking down the new federal policies for student loans, and, more importantly, sharing practical strategies (and some creative hacks) to help you finally get ahead on those payments.

This episode covers:

* The major changes in federal student loan policies introduced by the “one big beautiful bill”
* The importance of separating personal and business finances
* When you should consider refinancing or consolidating student loans?
* How to gamify your student loan payments?
* Updated borrowing caps for graduate, law, and medical school loans

 
Resources:

* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free
* The Lawyer Millionaire Money Mastery Assessment
* Financial Advisor Decision Checklist

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3 months ago
19 minutes 48 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Student Loans Part 1: How Millionaires Think About Debt (Ep. 124)
Are student loans holding you back or could they be the key to your financial growth?
This episode of The lawyer Millionaire Podcast kicks off a special six-part “Student Loan Success” series designed for law firm owners just like you. Instead of treating student loans like a shackle, I’ll show you how the most successful professionals view debt as a strategic tool that serves as a launchpad not an anchor.
I challenge the old narratives that say you have to be debt-free before building wealth. Instead, you’ll hear why your loans shouldn’t keep you from investing, why “waiting until later” is one of the biggest financial mistakes you can make, and how thinking like a millionaire now could be your biggest asset (no matter what your loan statement says).
This episode covers:

* Reframing student loans as an opportunity rather than a burden.
* How to let go of guilt or shame about student loans.
* What most financial gurus won’t tell you about debt?
* The potential downside of waiting until loans are fully paid off before investing.
* The importance of protecting retirement savings.

 
Resources:

* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free
* The Lawyer Millionaire Money Mastery Assessment
* Financial Advisor Decision Checklist

 
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3 months ago
15 minutes 42 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
600 Leads, 3 Clients Why Your Marketing Isn’t Working and What To Do Instead (Ep. 123)
On today’s episode, host Darren Wurz sits down with Ben Glass, founder of Ben Glass Law and Great Legal Marketing, to tackle a common frustration for law firm owners: why aren’t your marketing efforts turning leads into actual clients? Ben, a nationally recognized attorney with over four decades of experience, pulls back the curtain on flashy digital trends and reveals why genuine, referral-based relationships still reign supreme even in this digital age.
 
Ben shares:

* The biggest marketing myth that law firm owners need to ditch.
* Why referrals trumps cold leads?
* How to build and leverage a carefully curated “Dream 100” referral list.
* How storytelling can help your firm rise above the online noise.
* The power of building authentic relationships in your community.
* Scrappy marketing ideas that worked.

Resources:

* Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion by Robert B. Cialdini
* Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
* Building a StoryBrand 2.0: Clarify Your Message So Customers Will Listen by Donald Miller
* Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire by Dan Martell

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free
* The Lawyer Millionaire Money Mastery Assessment
* Financial Advisor Decision Checklist

 
Connect with Ben Glass:

* Tel: 703-570-8357
* Linkedin: Benjamin Glass
* Website: Great Legal Marketing
* Website: Ben Glass Law

 
About Ben Glass:
Ben Glass is a prominent long-term disability attorney, business leader, and legal marketing expert with over 40 years of experience in representing disabled and injured clients against insurance companies. He is widely recognized for his innovative approach to law and business, making significant contributions to both fields.
Early Life and Education
Ben Glass was born and raised in Northern Virginia, attending Thomas Jefferson High School where he captained his high school soccer team for three years, won a regional championship his senior year and went on to play soccer at William & Mary on scholarship.
Ben played for the Annandale Cavaliers, who won a national youth soccer championship in 1976 at the U-19 division. He started his soccer referee career at age 16 and continues to referee at the youth and high school level today.
Ben graduated from George Mason University Law School, (now The Antonin Scalia School of Law) and began the private practice of law in 1983. He started BenGlassLaw ...
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3 months ago
33 minutes 24 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Culture First: How Joel Ferdinand Built a 230+ Partner Law Firm with Servant Leadership (Ep. 122)
On today’s episode of The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast, host Darren Wurz welcomes Joel Ferdinand, co-founder and co-chairman of Pierson Ferdinand LLP a law firm that made headlines for launching with over 130 partners and scaling to more than 230 in under two years. But what truly sets this firm apart isn’t just its size; it’s the radical approach to building a culture-first law firm rooted in servant leadership, transparency, and a shared commitment to putting people first.
Joel pulls back the curtain on how he and his team intentionally set expectations from day one, maintain a transparent compensation system, and foster an environment where every partner knows the rules—and even the leaders are held accountable. From reimagining the dreaded partner handbook to leveraging technology that gives lawyers their lives back, you’ll hear how culture and innovation together drive not only rapid, sustainable growth, but real work-life balance and fulfillment.
 
Joel shares:

* Why clearly defined values and consistent rules make scaling smoother not harder.
* His perspective on salary openness and why you should treat your partners as equals with your policies.
* How serving your team, not just managing them, fosters loyalty, innovation, and genuine well-being in (and outside) the firm

 
Resources:

* Blinkist
* The Psychology of Money: Timeless lessons on wealth, greed, and happiness by Morgan Housel
* Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones by James Clear
* The 5Am Club: Own Your Morning. Elevate Your Life by Robin Sharma

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free
* The Lawyer Millionaire Money Mastery Assessment
* Financial Advisor Decision Checklist

 
Connect with Joel Ferdinand:

* Email: joel.ferdinand@pierferd.com
* Linkedin: Joel Ferdinand
* Website: Pierson Ferdinand

 
About Joel Ferdinand:




Mr. Ferdinand is a business trial lawyer, handling sophisticated business disputes. He regularly appears in federal and state courts throughout the country. Large companies, family owned businesses, and business executives seek out his experience, which brings an assertive and practical, results-oriented approach, to help resolve their personal and professional issues. Mr. Ferdinand aggressively pursues client interests in court and the boardroom.









Among others, Mr. Ferdinand’s experience includes, appellate litigation; bankruptcy adversary proceedings; bid protests, debarments,
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3 months ago
37 minutes 46 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Building Bold: Ariana Tadler on Leadership, Legacy, and Law Firm Success (Ep. 121)
Are you a law firm owner striving to grow your business, lead with clarity, and create something bigger than yourself?
I had the honor of sitting down with Ariana J. Tadler, founding partner of Tadler Law LLP, and a national powerhouse in complex litigation and E-discovery. In this inspiring episode, Ariana shares her personal journey, from deciding to be a lawyer at age 13 to becoming a leader and innovator in the legal field.
Ariana shares:

* How to define and live by your core values.
* How her mindset gave her firm a competitive edge, especially during the unprecedented challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic.
* Why everything she does is a strategic move.
* The influence of her family dynamics and a debate-oriented upbringing while growing up.
* How she navigates leadership challenges as a mother and woman.
* Creating a legacy and empowering others for greater success.

Resources:

* The Psychology of Money: Timeless lessons on wealth, greed, and happiness by Morgan Housel
* Be That Lawyer: 101 Top Rainmakers’ Secrets to Growing a Succesful Law Practice by Steve Fretzin
* Journeys On The Edge: Living a Life That Matters by Walt Hompton
* The Keeper of Happy Endings by Barbara Davis

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free
* The Lawyer Millionaire Money Mastery Assessment
* Financial Advisor Decision Checklist

 
Connect with Ariana Tadler:

* Email: atadler@tadlerlaw.com
* Linkedin: Ariana J. Tadler
* Website: Tadler Law

 
About Ariana Tadler
ARIANA J. TADLER is the founding partner of Tadler Law LLP, a WBENC-certified, women-owned boutique law firm that offers an array of litigation and legal counseling services. With 32 years’ experience advocating for consumers, employees, and investors against corporate fraud and abuse while litigating and managing securities, consumer and data breach class actions, and complex litigation and arbitrations, Ariana is one of the leading women litigators in the country. Described by Chambers USA as one who “passionately defends her clients’ interests to the greatest extent possible,” Ariana litigates large, complex, high-profile cases as well as smaller, impactful matters. She is sought after for her unique legal and technological acumen and case management skills.
Ariana is renowned for being “gracious and tenacious.” A tough, solution-driven negotiator with a creative and robust aptitude for resolving disputes, Ariana is regularly retained by clients and appointed by courts to leadership positions in large,
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4 months ago
38 minutes 59 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
How Jeff Hughes Scaled Sterling Lawyers with Fixed Fees, Offshoring, and Innovation (Ep. 120)
Ever wondered how to break free from the billable hour grind and truly scale your law firm? On today’s episode, host Darren Wurz sits down with Jeff Hughes, founder of Sterling Lawyers, who shared exactly how he built a 100% fixed fee family law firm, leveraged offshore talent, and embraced innovation to transform his business. We talked about aligning client and firm interests, the power of transparent pricing, and why documenting your processes is essential if you want to grow—or even exit—your practice. If you’re ready to build a scalable, profitable, and future-ready law firm, this episode is a must-listen!
Jeff shares:

How Sterling Lawyers transitioned to a fixed fee model?
The top challenges law firms face when switching to a fixed fee model.
Why Sterling Lawyers offshores many roles to the Philippines?
How to effectively train your team and build scalable processes
The mindset shift from technician to business owner.

 
Resources:

* Book: Smuggler by Roger Reaves

 
Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free
* The Lawyer Millionaire Money Mastery Assessment
* Financial Advisor Decision Checklist

 
Connect with Jeff Hughes:

* Linkedin: Jeff Sterling Hughes
* Website: J. Sterling Hughes
* Website: Sterling Lawyers

 
About Jeff Hughes:
We operate Sterling Law daily with the conviction that we must empower clients enduring a family legal crisis, which are some of the most painful, bewildering moments of life.”
When someone utters the word “divorce,” specific images pop to mind. Expensive and never-ending bills, uncaring lawyers, and drawn out cases ending in heartache, to name just a few.
But why? Family law is supposed to be about serving people during some of the difficult moments of their life when they need a helping hand the most.
Jeff Hughes chose law as the platform to impact his community and the families in it. After working as a lawyer for many years, he saw that the status quo was broken, and radical changes had to be made.
As a co-founder of Sterling Law Offices, he turned his focus to obliterating the archaic family law “old school” system.
First, and this may strike you as crazy radical – Jeff does not want you as a client of the firm. He would much rather live in a world where families never broke apart. Sadly, that is not reality. The truth is that good, loving people find themselves in a family legal crisis.
Consequently, Jeff’s core belief is simple: “When people in my community find themselves in a family legal crisis, we desperately want to serve them. They need us. So, we are obsessed with creating a modern firm that focuses on them and their families. I have this unshakable conviction, that if we build a client-centered firm, we will be wildly successful. If we empower clients, we will dominate.
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4 months ago
33 minutes 35 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
Ep. 119 – Law Firm in the Metaverse Scott C. Pappas Is Redefining How Law Firms Operate
Have you ever wondered: Is there a better way to build a firm that’s both profitable and fulfilling for everyone involved?
On this episode, host Darren Wurz sits down with Scott C. Pappas, the managing partner of Omnis Law, to talk about a truly groundbreaking approach to running a law firm. Scott and his team have tossed out the old playbook, building a firm that puts attorneys first, prioritizes mental health, and leverages technology in unexpected ways—including a law firm campus in the METAVERSE. Yes, you read that right!
Scott shares how Omnis Law’s core values of grace and kindness shape everything from daily operations to client relations. If you’ve ever wished for a law firm life with more freedom, connection, and opportunity—and less stress—this episode is for you.
Scott shares:

The benefits of prioritizing attorney wellbeing as a core business strategy.
The role of the metaverse in building connection and collaboration for remote legal teams.
How Omnus Law removed strict billable hour requirements in favor of autonomy and trust.
His experience with advocating for mental health and autism services.
How Omnus Law fully virtual office in the metaverse mimics real life office interactions

 
Resources:

*
Book – The Metaverse Workplace Revolution by Jason Gesing


Connect with Darren Wurz:

* Schedule a Call with Darren
* The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network

* The Lawyer Millionaire: The Complete Guide for Attorneys on Maximizing Wealth, Minimizing Taxes, and Retiring with Confidence by Darren Wurz
* LinkedIn: Darren P. Wurz
* Join The Lawyer Millionaire Founders Network and Book Club for Free
* The Lawyer Millionaire Money Mastery Assessment
* Financial Advisor Decision Checklist

 
Connect with Scott C. Pappas:

* Email: scottpapas@omnuslaw.com
* Linkedin: Scott C. Papas
* Website: Omnus Law
* Website: Autism Behavioral Wellness

 
About Scott C. Pappas:
Scott C. Pappas is the Firmwide Managing Partner of Omnus Law, where he leads the firm’s mission to modernize legal practice through autonomy, culture, and operational innovation. With more than 20 years of experience spanning litigation, legal operations, and firm leadership, Scott brings a rare dual perspective, grounded in both practice and performance.
Before joining Omnus, he held senior roles at Goodwin, Lowenstein Sandler, and Redgrave LLP, where he built and scaled practice management functions that aligned attorney well-being with business results. A former litigator who has managed large caseloads for financial institutions,
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4 months ago
35 minutes 59 seconds

The Lawyer Millionaire® Podcast: Business & Financial Planning for Law Firm Owners
The Lawyer Millionaire Podcast is the go-to show for ambitious law firm owners who want to grow their practice, build personal wealth, and achieve true financial freedom. Hosted by financial planner and business strategist Darren Wurz, this podcast delivers actionable strategies to help you scale your firm, increase profitability, and design a future beyond billable hours.

Each week, you’ll discover:
• Practical law firm growth strategies to attract clients, improve efficiency, and scale sustainably
• Exclusive insights on financial planning for lawyers, including retirement, tax strategies, and exit planning
• Real stories from successful law firm owners who’ve built thriving practices and financial independence
• Tools to help you step out of the day-to-day grind and focus on becoming the CEO of your firm

Whether you’re a solo attorney ready to grow, a managing partner scaling a team, or a law firm owner planning your exit, this podcast gives you the roadmap to transform your practice into a wealth-building asset.

Subscribe to The Lawyer Millionaire today and learn how to grow your law firm, build wealth, and achieve the freedom you’ve always wanted.