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The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
The L Suite
114 episodes
4 days ago
Frank conversations with GCs, CPOs, Product and Policy Leaders around navigating the technology ecosystem, hosted by Andy Dale, General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer at OpenAP and Pedro Pavón, Privacy & Data Policy at Meta. The Data Protection Breakfast Club is produced by L Suite, an executive peer community for CLOs & GCs to make better, faster decisions. Learn more @ https://www.lsuite.co/
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Frank conversations with GCs, CPOs, Product and Policy Leaders around navigating the technology ecosystem, hosted by Andy Dale, General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer at OpenAP and Pedro Pavón, Privacy & Data Policy at Meta. The Data Protection Breakfast Club is produced by L Suite, an executive peer community for CLOs & GCs to make better, faster decisions. Learn more @ https://www.lsuite.co/
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The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"AI Wash, AI Dry" w/ Andy & Pedro

After a summer break, A&P are back at it, discussing AI's impact on tech companies, lawyers and plicy teams. Pedro is moving soon, so this may be the last episode presided over by Tupac!!

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1 month ago
46 minutes 36 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"Not Everyone needs a Rolls Royce" w/ Rebecca MacVittie

A&P are joined by Rebecca MacVittie the GC @ Newstore. Newstore is backbone technology enabling global e-commerce for brands like Burton, Marine Layer, Birkenstock and other popular D2C brands. Rebecca had a unique pathway to the GC seat and we will discuss how these experiences helped her pave the way forward and how the diversity of experience is a plus as a GC.

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4 months ago
55 minutes 19 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"The Appalachia Trio" w/ Andy & Pedro

A&P talk about their favorite things in work, life, privacy, tech, AI, snacks, books and more.

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4 months ago
45 minutes 53 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"The Backyard Dollhouse" w/ Andrew Woods

A&P are joined by Andrew Woods, the GC of AdTech company PubMatic, formerly of Twitter. Andrew’s origin story can be heard on the 2/22/23 Episode. This conversation focuses on the changing economic model of the internet and AI's massive impact on our future and the future of ads/privacy.

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5 months ago
48 minutes 55 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"The Patchwork" w/ Keir Lamont

A&P chat with Keir Lamont, Senior Director of the Future of Privacy Forum’s U.S. Legislation team. In this role he supports research and independent analysis concerning federal, state, and local consumer privacy laws and regulations. Notably Keir releases updates on a fortnightly cadence on State and Federal Privacy Legislation and is one of the people most closely tracking development @ the state level. There may be no greater expert on the US “Patchwork” than Keir!

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6 months ago
46 minutes 27 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"Shout Out to the Cable Companies for Being Patient" w/ Julia Shullman

The guys are joined by longtime friend Julia Shullman. She’s stepped into a role in the advertising tv space with Telly an innovative company that is also developing an actual TV that si free for consumers, with a transparent data driven ad delivery system attached.


The discussion also covers the current TV advertising environment and the dynamism brought about by streaming platforms, internet of things, and regulatory challenges like the VPPA and other laws.


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6 months ago
39 minutes 42 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"Wolves on Steroids" w/ Chris Sands

Andy and Pedro sit down with Chris Sands, former CMO of the L Suite (TechGC) to discuss his new role establishing a community based recruiting function and executive hiring in general.

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7 months ago
32 minutes 56 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"We're Too Old for Sesame Street" w/ Val Ilchenko

Andy & Pedro chat with Val Ilchenko, GC/CPO @ TrustArc, one of the leading privacy technology companies. Val helped create and grow the privacy programs @ GoTo and LogMeIn before moving into his current role. The guys chat about the unique fun and challenges of your first leadership role in legal/privacy.

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8 months ago
51 minutes 38 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"M&A, IPOs and Commander's Palace" w/ Kathleen Patton

Andy & Pedro sit down with Kathleen Patton, a GC who has literally seen it all and done it all in her impressive career. The convo targets some of the biggest issues when leading an IPO and M&A deals, but also touches on her style of confident leadership that all in-house lawyers ought to model and learn from. In addition to her stints inside companies, she also maintains a clear priority of family, friendships, mentorship and fun.

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9 months ago
43 minutes 46 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"Looking Forward to the Greenland Data Protection Act" w/ Pedro & Andy

Andy and Pedro discuss the current climate for tech companies and the impact of an administration change in the US. They also touch on the 2025 outlook for AI tools, privacy laws and how to advise clients in this environment.



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9 months ago
39 minutes 37 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
“The Human Dimension: Hiring, Mentoring and Team Leadership” w/ Susan Rohol and Anne Bradley

Andy & Pedro are joined by some great friends and incredible privacy/legal leaders Anne Bradley FPF fellow/startup advisors/founder and former Nike/Hulu CPO and Susan Rohol partner @ Willkie Farr and former Warner/Discovery CPO.


We chat about hiring, mentoring and the challenges/rewards of both!

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10 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 25 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
“I’m Looking for the Trader Joe’s of Law Firms” w/ Rob Morvillo

Andy & Pedro are joined by a good friend of the pod, Rob Morvillo - Chief Legal Officer @ Olo. The discussion focuses on the in-house lawyer’s relationship with their outside law firm counsel and how this has evolved over time.

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11 months ago
52 minutes 14 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"McPrivacy” w/ Alan Chapell

Andy and Pedro chat with their good friend Alan Chapell, longtime AdTech privacy lawyer and one of the key voices in the overlap between AdTech and competition law.

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11 months ago
39 minutes 10 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"Hal from the Appliances Department" w/ Pedro & Andy

Andy and Pedro discuss the importance of putting yourself out there in your career by speaking, writing and engaging in public conversations. They also bat around some really important concepts like what to watch on flights, motorcycle meditation and the best privacy pros to hear speak at events.

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1 year ago
42 minutes 10 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
“Episode 100! Sharp Paintbrushes” w/ Andy & Pedro

Andy and Pedro celebrate the 100th episode of DPBC! They discuss the future of tech companies in the EU, focusing on data protection regulations and the challenges these companies face. Thank you for listening!

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1 year ago
38 minutes 40 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"Yankees Hat at a Red Sox Game" w/ Nubiaa Shabaka

Nubiaa Shabaka combines a wealth of expertise in privacy/cybersecurity with a deep curiosity and love of learning/collaborating. It is a skill we have consistently seen in several big organization CPOs. And Nubiaa has had some of the biggest roles you can have in privacy/cyber at a mix of very complex organizations. Currently she is the VP, & Chief Cybersecurity Legal/Privacy Officer @ Adobe and was Chief Cybersecurity Legal/Privacy Officer @ American International Group (AIG) and in a similar leadership role @ Morgan Stanley.


In addition to her day job, Nubiaa also works closely on Adobe’s Data Governance program and sits on its AI leadership groups.

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1 year ago
34 minutes 2 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
“Breakfast is the Play” w/ Greg Raiten

We last talked with Greg in October of 2021. In that episode we covered Greg’s law firm days, in-house career and formation of TechGC with his Co-Founder Kiran Lingam.


We catch up with Greg again to discuss the growth of the L Suite and really just the impact of “community” on our work and life. And of course we will tackle the very important question of the best pizza in Brooklyn and Manhattan.

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1 year ago
45 minutes 31 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"A Browns Fan in Denmark" w/ Aaron Mendelsohn - Director, Privacy Officer @ The LEGO Group

Would you move for your dream job?  Aaron Mendelsohn did, but not a simple move.  He and his family relocated to Denmark when he got an opportunity to join the LEGO Group and help support its privacy journey.  We rarely see a US lawyer going to Europe and its a fascinating story.  

Aaron loves the LEGO Group brand deeply (and so do we).  Supporting a company and brand which you personally use and love often goes a long way in doing your best work!



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1 year ago
41 minutes 55 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
"The Best Dressed Guest" w/ Simon McDougall, Chief Compliance Officer @ ZoomInfo and former ICO Deputy Commissioner

Simon McDougall doesn’t take the easy road, never has.  He likes hard problems and isn’t afraid to dig in and try to solve them. Simon has a deep sense of pragmatism and business balance which makes him an effective leader. 

He is currently the Chief Compliance Officer of ZoomInfo and was previously Deputy Commissioner for the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO), the UK’s independent authority for upholding information rights. While @ the ICO he established new technology policy and innovation functions working on artificial intelligence, adtech, and competition.  Simon also has worked for years in consulting at Promontory (an IBM company) and Deloitte.

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1 year ago
54 minutes 5 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
“Nobody’s Asking for a Federal Privacy Law” w/ Jules Polonetsky, CEO @ Future of Privacy Forum
We last talked with Jules on March 17, 2021 over 3 years ago!  A LOT has happened since.  That episode was a career retro covering Jules’ time @ AOL, DoubleClick and in government.   This time we dig in with Jules on the current global and US privacy laws, Artificial Intelligence, Clean Rooms, Public Policy and the role of “think tanks” in both society and in the privacy community.
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1 year ago
58 minutes 18 seconds

The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro
Frank conversations with GCs, CPOs, Product and Policy Leaders around navigating the technology ecosystem, hosted by Andy Dale, General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer at OpenAP and Pedro Pavón, Privacy & Data Policy at Meta. The Data Protection Breakfast Club is produced by L Suite, an executive peer community for CLOs & GCs to make better, faster decisions. Learn more @ https://www.lsuite.co/