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The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

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78 episodes

15 hours ago

Bots follow scripts. Assistants wait for your commands. Agents act autonomously. Maksim Shaposhnikov, AI Research Engineer at Tessl, joins Simon Maple to unpack the capabilities of AI coding agents, including how developers can test and trust the code they generate. On the docket: • how sub-agents operate independently, maintaining their own context windows to handle complex tasks without overloading the main agent. • why human-in-the-loop oversight is still essential, even as agents can a...

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Bots follow scripts. Assistants wait for your commands. Agents act autonomously. Maksim Shaposhnikov, AI Research Engineer at Tessl, joins Simon Maple to unpack the capabilities of AI coding agents, including how developers can test and trust the code they generate. On the docket: • how sub-agents operate independently, maintaining their own context windows to handle complex tasks without overloading the main agent. • why human-in-the-loop oversight is still essential, even as agents can a...

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Episodes (20/78)

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

AI Agents Beyond Context Limits | Maksim Shaposhnikov

Bots follow scripts. Assistants wait for your commands. Agents act autonomously. Maksim Shaposhnikov, AI Research Engineer at Tessl, joins Simon Maple to unpack the capabilities of AI coding agents, including how developers can test and trust the code they generate. On the docket: • how sub-agents operate independently, maintaining their own context windows to handle complex tasks without overloading the main agent. • why human-in-the-loop oversight is still essential, even as agents can a...

6 days ago

58 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Instant PR Feedback Without leaving GitHub | Merrill Lutsky on Graphite

As AI outpaces human review, latency compounds. On AI Native Dev, Graphite co-founder and CEO, Merrill Lutsky joins Guy Podjarny to explore how stack aware reviews remove friction and accelerate AI-native development. They also get into: • how Graphite’s architecture ensures traceability across AI generated commits • what engineering velocity means when code quality depends on alignment • why the next generation of developers will act more like managers of autonomous dev teams than individu...

1 week ago

47 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

AI-First Project Management for Developers | Alex Gavrilescu on Backlog.md

Even the smartest AI agent starts as a blank slate. Alexandru Gavrilescu, creator of Backlog.md, and Simon Maple explore how to give AI the right context and specifications so it can deliver like a human teammate, and sometimes faster. On the docket: • why humans still matter for review, but AI can accelerate work beyond traditional sprints • the rise of persistent agents that proactively manage tasks and subagents • preparing for a world of disposable, single-use software and continuous d...

2 weeks ago

46 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Redefining Developer Workflows in the AI Era with MCP | Steve Manuel

The risk of letting AI do more than autocomplete? It can quickly spin out of control. On this episode of AI Native Dev, Steve Manuel, founder and CEO of Dylibso, unpacks MCP, the protocol that keeps AI extensions safe and predictable, and dives into mcp.run, his framework for tapping into shared MCP servers without losing control. With Simon Maple he shares: • why plugin-safe AI might be the most significant shift in developer tooling this decade • how mcp.run isolates compute to prevent AI...

3 weeks ago

50 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

How Slack AI Agents Accelerate Dev Productivity | Samuel Messing

AI only becomes effective in workflows when it speaks the language of the enterprise. In this episode of AI Native Dev, Simon Maple sits down with Samuel Messing, VP of Engineering for Search and AI at Slack, to explore how they are tackling one of AI’s toughest challenges: managing enterprise context at scale for 80% of the Fortune 100. On the docket: • why understanding context is critical for enterprise AI • how Slack’s ‘AI Explain’ helps you make sense of information overload • how to m...

1 month ago

52 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Can Agentic Engineering Really Deliver Enterprise-Grade Code? | Reuven Cohen

What makes 2025 the “Year of the Agent”? In this episode of AI Native Dev, Simon Maple joined Reuven Cohen, founder of the Agentics Foundation and creator of Claude Flow, to explore how agentic engineering went from a fringe experiment to a movement reshaping how developers build software. On the docket: • what makes “agentic engineering” a new profession, not just a buzzword • how hive minds and swarms mirror nature’s most efficient systems • why large compani...

1 month ago

1 hour 2 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Revolutionising Spec-Driven Development with Tessl’s Framework & Registry

Devs spend more time fixing agent mistakes than shipping features. On this episode of AI Native Dev, Guy Podjarny, founder & CEO at Tessl, and Simon Maple, Head of Developer Relations, announce two new products, the Tessl Framework and the Tessl Spec Registry, built to make specs the source of truth, keeping agents aligned with intent and code dependable. On the docket: • Why agent development needs its own dependency system • Using specs to create tests that validate agent outputs •...

1 month ago

37 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

The Man Behind World’s Largest Dev Con | Stephan & Devoxx

Stephan Janssen, the mind behind Devoxx, calls this moment the “renaissance of development” and explains why AI-native workflows are rewriting what’s possible. On the docket: • how vibe coding cut months of setup and build into days • why “spec to code” loops beat pure prompting every time • what juniors gain from a universal AI tutor • why agents are the big theme for Devoxx Belgium 2025 AI Native Dev, AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, i...

1 month ago

1 hour 4 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Is Your Team Ready for AI-Driven Modernization? | Birgitta Böckeler

What does it mean to be a developer when AI writes most of the code? On this episode of AI Native Dev, Birgitta Böckeler, Distinguished Engineer at ThoughtWorks, joins Simon Maple to unpack how AI is changing legacy migrations, and why the real value comes from pairing LLMs with proven software engineering practices. They also get into: • why “AI alone” won’t solve legacy modernization • how codemods and deterministic tools amplify AI creativity • the reflex to rewrite vs. the discipline to...

2 months ago

56 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Can AI Really Build Enterprise-Grade Software? | Maor Shlomo & Base44

AI coding is great for demos, but can it handle production apps? On this episode of AI Native Dev, Maor Shlomo, founder of Base44, joins Guy Podjarny to share how he built one of the first “batteries-included” AI app builders and what it reveals about building real software in the age of LLMs. They dive into: • why less complexity helps LLMs perform • how Base44 ships apps with databases and integrations built in • what smaller, high-context teams can do that big ones can’t • the path from ...

2 months ago

55 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Transforming Dev Practices with Kiro’s Spec-Driven Tools | Nikhil and Richard

Rapid prototyping is fun, but maintaining it? Not so much. In this episode, Simon Maple is joined by Nikhil Swaminathan, Head of Product and Richard Threlkeld, Principal Engineer at Kiro IDE (AWS), to discuss how spec-driven development moves the focus from writing code to understanding and communicating system behavior, building software that is easy to understand so that developers can maintain code without losing clarity. They also explore: • Kiro’s philosophy on spec-driven development...

2 months ago

1 hour 9 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Transforming Debugging and Root Cause Detection with Sentry | David Cramer

On this episode of AI Native Dev, David Cramer, co-founder of Sentry, joins Guy Podjarny to talk about what it really takes to ship faster with LLMs built into the workflow, and why over 4 million devs rely on Sentry to do it right. On the docket: • how Sentry’s moat is built on deeply interconnected app data • why David prefers Cursor over Claude • how a cynical mindset kills AI adoption before it begins AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast fo...

2 months ago

50 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Why Tracking AI Usage Drives Better Results | Justin Reock & DX

With AI adoption surging across orgs, Justin Reock, CTO at DX, joins Simon Maple to break down the difference between meaningful integration and just chasing trends. They also get into: • two levers of velocity: quality and maintainability. • why measuring real AI impact starts with knowing who’s using it and how • how AI supercharges developer productivity across the SDLC AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software developme...

3 months ago

51 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

What Next Gen AI Infra, Voice and Video Looks Like | Datadog, Eleven Labs and Synthesia

In this compilation, Olivier Pomel (Datadog), Mati Staniszewski (ElevenLabs), and Victor Riparbelli (Synthesia) join Guy Podjarny to unpack what it takes to build category defining products in the AI native era. On the docket: • why root cause detection felt like sci-fi a few years ago, and what’s changed • the early challenges ElevenLabs faced as an audio first AI company • how Synthesia got Mark Cuban to invest in them AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your ...

3 months ago

34 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

What If Fixing Code Wasn’t Your Job Anymore? | Jonathan Schneider & Moderne

Jonathan Schneider, co-founder and CEO of Moderne, joins Simon Maple to share how real engineering teams are using Moderne’s rewrite engine to reduce technical debt at the source, and drive org-wide transformation. On the docket: the hard limit LLMs can’t scale pastwhy OpenRewrite uses a declarative frameworkthe real challenge: accessing the compiler’s truth AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of...

3 months ago

36 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Why AI Coding Agents Are Here To Stay | Patrick Debois

Patrick Debois, the mind behind “DevOps,” joins Simon Maple to unpack the system-level shifts AI is driving across software engineering, drawn from what he saw firsthand at the AI Engineer’s World Fair. They also get into: • how inconsistent codebases confuse AI • why running agents locally is becoming obsolete • inside OpenAI’s concept of “model specs” AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI....

3 months ago

48 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

The Graph Layer Behind NASA’s Breakthroughs | Michael Hunger

Michael Hunger of Neo4j, joins Simon Maple to unpack how graph databases inject structure, intent, and traceability into modern AI systems. On the docket: why relationships in data encode intentthe black-box problem in vector based RAGwhy devs should build their own MCP server AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to t...

3 months ago

36 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

The Missing Gap In Workflows For AI Devs | Baruch Sadogursky

Baruch Sadogursky, Head of Developer Relations at TuxCare, joins Simon Maple to explore why automated integrity needs to be built in before we rely on AI outputs. On the docket: the difference between specs and testswhy PMs sidelined specsthe "intent-integrity gap" between human goals and LLM outputsthe non-determinism of LLMs as a feature, not a flawBaruch’s belief: devs are not going anywhere AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions ...

4 months ago

49 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Why LLMs Keep Missing This One Thing | Jason Ganz

Can LLMs replace structured systems to scale enterprises? Jason Ganz, Senior Manager DX at dbt Labs, joins Simon Maple to unpack why, despite the rapid rise of AI systems, enterprises still rely on structured data for consistency and reliable decision making. They also discuss: the invisible edge cases LLMs can’t seedifference between software engineering and data engineering in AIthe mismatch between AI output and business logicwhat the data engineer of the future actually does AI Native D...

4 months ago

49 minutes

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

CTO of $7B Snyk Talks AI Security, Risky Software & Enterprise Adoption

In this episode of AI Native Dev, Guy Podjarny and Danny Allan unpack how security has reduced just to a concern from a roadblock for devs. On the docket: why 80% of Snyk’s enterprise customers are actively using AI toolsnavigating security risks of today and tomorrowthe recurring flaw in every new stackwhy more code means more vulnerabilities AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as...

4 months ago

35 minutes