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Colin Dawson talks about receiving an OBE for services to British tourism; being on first-name terms with Princess Diana; getting started in music and playing guitar in his first skiffle band; first meeting Roger Daltrey in a café in Acton; the formation of The Detours; being inspired by Cliff Richard and taking pride in his appearance on stage; his memories of playing with The Detours and why he eventually left the band; hearing ‘I Can’t Explain’ for the first time; covering a Who song in a different band decades later, and the Who songs and albums he likes the most; his son playing bass for Joy Crookes at Glastonbury earlier this year; and reuniting with Roger, John and Pete at the Royal Albert Hall in 1989.
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Colin sharing rides with Princess Diana and her two sons at Thorpe Park in 1993 Colin (in blazer and tie) first appears at 0:48 and is interviewed at 9:58
Joy Crookes – ‘Perfect Crime’ Glastonbury, June 2025 (featuring Cameron Dawson on bass)
The Wrinklies – ‘Caroline’ Broadstairs, Kent, c. 2010/11 (featuring Colin on lead vocals)
The Wrinklies – ‘Summertime Blues’ Broadstairs, Kent, c. 2010/11
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Richard Evans talks about designing The Who’s latest tour book, trying to impress his mum by working for a Beatle, the upcoming Who Are You Super Deluxe Edition box set, working with Josh Townshend on the Live at the Oval 1971 cover and the inspiration behind it, photographing Keith Moon naked for his first ever Who commission, booking The Who to play in Nottingham while at art school, his management of the band’s website and social media accounts, and why it’s ok to have gaps in your Who knowledge.
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‘Who Put The Boot In’ tour poster
Keith Moon as a bellboy ‘Who Put The Boot In’ tour book cover
The infamous Keith centrefold ‘Who Put The Boot In’ tour book
The equally infamous ‘Keith with football’ photo
‘I Can’t Explain’ Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia, PA, 2015 (The Who Hits 50! tour)
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Buddy Ascott talks about playing with Tony Fletcher in The Dear Boys, being sacked by his previous band and not knowing why, The Who’s influence on The Chords, offering his drumming services to The Who when he was 18, the large Mod audience that followed The Chords through word of mouth, recording BBC radio sessions for John Peel, his love for The Who By Numbers and why it’s an underrated album, and drunkenly heckling The Who and ending up in their dressing room in the same night.
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The Dear Boys – 'Put It Down' (Page/Fletcher), used with kind permission
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The Chords – ‘Maybe Tomorrow’ Top of the Pops, February 1980
The Chords – ‘Something’s Missing’ Top of the Pops, May 1980
The Chords – first Peel Session BBC Radio 1, July 1979
The Chords – second Peel Session BBC Radio 1, March 1980
Proper – Meant To Say Something Bandcamp
The Chords on London Weekend Show May 1979 (a teenage Tony Fletcher can be seen from 2:59–3:03)
The Chords – ‘This is What They Want’
‘Heaven and Hell’ Tanglewood, Lenox, MA, July 1970
The Dear Boys – ‘Put It Down’ YouTube
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Dan Epstein talks about co-writing the autobiography of cult band Redd Kross, jamming with Roger Daltrey at the Rock ‘N’ Roll Fantasy Camp in Las Vegas and leaving in a wheelchair (the two things aren't connected!), the effect that first seeing The Kids Are Alright had on him, seeing spiritual elements within ‘A Quick One, While He’s Away’, attempting to be an edgy music journalist and writing negatively about the band for Ugly Things magazine in his late 20s, and how FM radio was the ideal platform for increasing The Who’s popularity in America.
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Now You’re One of Us: The Incredible Story of Redd Kross
Dan Epstein’s Substack page Jagged Time Lapse
A Quick One, While He’s Away The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus performance from The Kids Are Alright
Success Story from The Kids Are Alright
Eminence Front – official video
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Jody Linscott talks about playing on the recent UK tour with Roger Daltrey, the planned documentary about her life, holidaying in England in 1971 and deciding not to go home, the differences between touring with Roger nowadays and touring with The Who in 1989, how the music industry is rapidly changing, the importance of art to our well-being, the oversaturation of music in the modern era, and having two children’s books published by Jackie Onassis.
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Buy tickets for Who’s Next at the 100 Club (featuring Paul interviewing Dante DiCarlo)
The Who: Album by Album – Dante DiCarlo’s new book
Who’s Next tribute band website
The Who’s North American farewell tour dates
Roger Daltrey – ‘Naked Eye’ London Palladium, 21st April 2025
Roger Daltrey – ‘Days’ (Kinks cover), proceeded by heckling Wolverhampton Civic Hall, 24th April 2025
Roger Daltrey – ‘Who Are You’ Piece Hall, Halifax, 30th July 2025
Kachina Dechert (Jody’s daughter) on IMDB
The Who – ‘Join Together’ Universal Amphitheatre, Los Angeles, 24th August 1989
Jody’s two children’s books on Amazon:
Once Upon A To Z: An Alphabet Odyssey
The Worthy Wonders Lost at Sea: A Whimsical Word Search Adventure
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Dante DiCarlo talks about the origins of tribute band Who’s Next and how he came to join, learning to play Who songs and improvise in Pete Townshend’s style, how a website competition helped him perfect the windmill, warnings from nurses at Who’s Next gigs, balancing a tribute band and other musical ventures, and his connection with The Who on a deeply personal level.
Plus: Paul goes to the Cavern Club in Liverpool to see Who’s Next for the first time and nearly breaks his phone in the process.
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Who’s Next – ‘Baba O’Riley’ The Cavern Club, Liverpool, 2025
Who’s Best – ‘Heaven and Hell’ 2010 Who Convention
Dante’s ‘How to windmill’ video
‘Won’t Get Fooled Again’ Live Aid, 1985
‘Won’t Get Fooled Again’ Shepperton, 1978
‘Baba O’Riley’ Shepperton, 1978
‘Baba O’Riley’ Charlton, 1974
Pete falling on his guitar Hamburg, 1972
Vince Lightning & The Thunderboltz
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Andy Neill talks about writing and curating the new book Their Generation: The Who in America 1967–69 and how it came about, photographer Tom Wright’s role and importance in The Who’s history, the light-hearted elements of The Who’s music through the years, the band’s struggle to initially break America, his involvement in the upcoming Live at the Oval 1971 album, the long process behind the album’s release, and why The Who are being inexplicably overlooked as a live band.
Plus: Paul attends the opening night of Quadrophenia: A Mod Ballet at Sadler’s Wells and gets very close to saying something stupid to Pete Townshend.
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Mandy Moon talks about being personally affected by the recent California wildfires, becoming a grandmother for the first time, the chaos surrounding her childhood, realising that her dad was famous because of her schoolteachers, her memories of some of Keith Moon’s friends, her childhood band and learning to play drums as an adult, seeing Keith for the last time and learning of his death, her struggles with drug and alcohol dependency, how people react to finding out she’s Keith Moon’s daughter, and pulling strings to obtain One Direction tickets.
Plus: Paul looks back on Who-related stuff that’s been going on since Season One ended – not only for the band, but in his personal life too – including a trip to the Cavern Club, sharing pizza with Roger Daltrey’s solo band, and the ever-confusing Zak Starkey saga.
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‘The Song is Over’ from the Royal Albert Hall, 30th March 2025
Pete Townshend’s first statement – Zak Starkey ISN’T out of the band
The Who's North American farewell tour dates
Pete’s second statement – Zak Starkey IS out of the band
Zak on BBC Breakfast, 27th May 2025
Waking Ned (full movie), featuring Dermot Kerrigan as Father Patrick (Dermot first appears at 17:30)
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Matt Kent talks about his entry point to The Who, appearing in a Dave Clark Five movie, his work for the upcoming Who Are You Super Deluxe box set, meeting Keith Moon in 1978, why Who fans are a special breed, how his Naked Eye fanzine became a semi-official fan club, the only time he had to walk out of a Who gig, establishing a friendship with John Entwistle, and how seeing the band live in the 70s was like seeing the Grand Canyon.
Plus: in light of the end of Season One, Paul looks at what’s to come from Talking About The Who before the start of Season Two.
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Opening scene of Catch Us If You Can starring the Dave Clark Five
‘Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere’ from Shepherd’s Bush Empire, 1999 (second night)
‘Won’t Get Fooled Again’ from Live Aid, 1985
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Matt Kent talks about releasing the first Naked Eye fanzine for 22 years, being behind the Who 60th anniversary commemorative stamps from Royal Mail, showing the band members a Track Records compilation that they didn’t know existed, why Quadrophenia will work as a ballet, his pride in co-organising the 1995 Who convention and the difficulties involved, his creativity thriving from working for Pete Townshend, being up close to the ideas behind Lifehouse becoming a reality, and why he walked out on his dream job.
Plus: Paul looks at the recent gig announcements for 2025 and wonders what the potential line-up of the band could look like.
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Royal Mail Who stamps and collectibles
Track Records’ Who Did It album front cover
Roger Daltrey sings 'Pinball Wizard' on Don't Forget Your Toothbrush, 1994
‘Boris the Spider’ from the 1995 Who Convention, Shepherd’s Bush
Quadrophenia medley from the 1995 Who Convention
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Ethan Fisher and Bets Crockett from The Fisher Protocol talk about the origins of their channel, why a video about ‘Slip Kid’ is their most popular, Keith Moon's capability of being a disciplined drummer, why the band had to carry on after Keith’s death, what sort of live Who show they want to see in 2025, and why making mistakes on stage is a good thing.
Plus: Paul puts forward a thought experiment around The Who of the 1980s and considers whether they would have sounded all that different with Keith on drums instead of Kenney Jones.
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‘I Can’t Explain’ from The Who at Kilburn: 1977
The Fisher Protocol’s ‘Who played the drums on Slip Kid’ video
‘Real Good Looking Boy’, live at the Gotham, New York, 2005
‘Who Are You’ from A Celebration: The Music of Pete Townshend and The Who, 1994
Scott Halpin replaces Keith Moon on drums at the Cow Palace, California, 1973
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Tony Fletcher talks about his work with the Rock Academy and the challenge of directing a show dedicated to The Who, recording with his band The Dear Boys, what compelled him to write a Keith Moon biography, trying to separate the myths from the truth, the effect the book had on his well-being, the most surprising thing he learnt while writing the book, his experiences of interviewing Oliver Reed and John Entwistle, and where he ranks Dear Boy/Moon amongst his other work.
Plus: on the 60th anniversary of The Who’s first single ‘I Can’t Explain’ being released in the UK, Paul looks at how the band’s debut immediately established their identity and managed to stay relevant throughout the next six decades.
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The Who – ‘I Can’t Explain’ (original version)
The Who – ‘I Can’t Explain’ (London Coliseum, 1969)
The Who – ‘I Can’t Explain’ (Royal Albert Hall, 2000)
Keith Moon with champagne bottle in wall image
Chris Charlesworth’s memoir Just Backdated
Tony’s festive recommendations post on Substack
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YouTuber Mr Boulder is more likely to talk about Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and Metallica on his channel than he is to talk about The Who. However, after asking Paul for a Who album recommendation beyond the greatest hits he already owned, Paul offered up Who’s Next. Sometime later, the two of them decided to record a track-by-track analysis of the album from their different perspectives – while also going off on various tangents – as part of an experimental cross-channel collaboration, and today we present their conversation as our New Year’s Day offering – Happy New Year to you all!
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Classic Albums episode on Who’s Next (Part 1 of 4)
Roger Daltrey – ‘Baba O’Riley’, 2024
John Entwistle – ‘My Wife’ (1973 solo album version)
The Who – ‘My Wife’ (live version from Thirty Years of Maximum R&B box set)
Roger Daltrey – ‘Going Mobile’, 2009
Limp Bizkit – ‘Behind Blue Eyes’
Bob Dylan – ‘All Along the Watchtower’
The Jimi Hendrix Experience – ‘All Along the Watchtower’
The Vocalyst reaction to ‘Won’t Get Fooled Again’
The Charismatic Voice reaction to ‘Won’t Get Fooled Again’
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Irish Jack was a nineteen-year-old Mod in Shepherd’s Bush when he first met and became friends with The Who in 1962, and he’s gone on to become an instantly recognisable figure to Who fans everywhere. In this episode, he shares some of his short stories about the band, and these are combined with archive clips to create ‘A Mish Mash of Irish Jack’, a collection of 60 years of Who-related memories. These include: a series of letters between Jack and Pete Townshend which sowed the seeds for Quadrophenia, hearing the album before its release as a way of avoiding watching Coronation Street, meeting the band for the first time when they were called The Detours, interrupting a Roger Daltrey radio interview with a badly timed phone call, broaching the subject of Who manager Kit Lambert’s homosexuality with his mother, and experiencing an evening in the company of Keith Moon and Oliver Reed.
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Clip 1: Pete Townshend interview with Ken Stewart on RTE Radio, 1985
Clip 2: Pete on The BP Fallon Orchestra on RTE Radio, 1984
Clip 3: Irish Jack interview on Portsmouth TV, 2002
Clip 4: ‘Jack Lyons: A Moment’ on RTE Radio, hosted by Alf McCarthy
Clip 5: Mastermind on BBC TV, 2008
Clip 6: Roger Daltrey interview with Nihal Arthanayake on BBC Radio 5 Live, 2018
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Chris Charlesworth talks about writing his new memoir Just Backdated, being Melody Maker’s man in America during the 70s, giving Debbie Harry her first UK print exposure, an unexpected phone call from Keith Moon after writing a glowing review, getting to know The Who and their families, and his feelings on the band playing with an orchestra.
Plus: after Pete Townshend announces upcoming Who activity in 2025, Paul ponders what that might look like and whether it’s finally time to bring back some obscure early material on stage.
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Sound desk audio of Roger and Pete banter at the Royal Albert Hall, 2024
Pete’s interview in The Standard, October 2024
Roger Daltrey – ‘Another Tricky Day’, 2024
Matt Kent on The Fisher Protocol
The Who – ‘Young Man Blues’, Ottawa, 1969
The Who – ‘My Generation’ from Live at the Fillmore East 1968
Slade – ‘Get Down and Get With It’ on UK TV, 1971
John Entwistle’s Ox – King Biscuit Flower Hour Presents in Concert, 1975
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Jody Linscott talks about how she inadvertently became a musician, being fired from Dingwalls and joining a band, the inspiration from her parents’ and brother’s record collections, not initially being a fan of The Who, being told, “Pete Townshend is looking for you”, playing with Pete’s Deep End band in the mid-80s, touring with The Who in 1989, the joyful chaos of being part of The Who’s acoustic line-up in 2020, and how Roger Daltrey is singing better than ever.
Plus: host Paul Bearman explains how he became a Who fan at the age of two, and how a major health scare in 2020 led to him wanting to make a podcast about them.
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Kokomo on The Old Grey Whistle Test, 1975
Jeff Linscott – ‘Things to See’
Pete Townshend’s Deep End – 'Slit Skirts’, 1986
Pete Townshend’s Deep End – ‘Rough Boys’, 1986
The Who – ‘Join Together’, 1989
Roger Daltrey – ‘Won’t Get Fooled Again’, 2024
Roger Daltrey – ‘Boy in the Bubble’, 2024
The Who – ‘Break the News’, 2020
The Who – ‘Baba O’ Riley’, 2022
The Who – ‘Won’t Get Fooled Again’, 2022
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