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Say More
The Boston Globe
126 episodes
8 hours ago
Big ideas and big debates, explained through intimate conversations with the compelling personalities who shape them. AI and biotech. Higher education and health care. Climate and sustainability. Politics and the media. Culture and culture wars. Hosted by Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung.
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Big ideas and big debates, explained through intimate conversations with the compelling personalities who shape them. AI and biotech. Higher education and health care. Climate and sustainability. Politics and the media. Culture and culture wars. Hosted by Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung.
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Introducing "My Home Fronts" Ep 1: Meeting Violet
Today, we’re sharing the first episode from My Home Fronts , a podcast from journalist Romy Neumark. My Home Fronts is a four-parts documentary podcast series tracing the student founder of "Jews for Palestine" at Harvard during the Gaza war - and the generational gap it reveals within American Jewish families. Episode 1, "Meeting Violet": An unexpected encounter between Israeli journalist Romy Neumark and student activist Violet Barron sparks a candid conversation, tracing Violet’s journey from the shock of October 7 to the founding of Harvard Jews for Palestine. This sets the stage for a four-part exploration of Jewish identity, activism, and family in contemporary America. Romy Neumark: Creator & Host Noa Amiel Lavie: Co-Creator & Editor Tina Tobey Mack: Sound Designer https://myhomefronts.com/
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8 hours ago
28 minutes

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Can Better Conversations Heal the Fractured Jewish-American Family?
The Israel-Hamas war took place more than 5,000 miles away from here, but you wouldn’t know that from the intensity of protests happening on US college campuses. Israeli journalist Romy Neumark works at Harvard University, and was curious to understand her own blind spots about how Israel is perceived in Jewish American homes. In Neumark’s new podcast “My Homefronts,” she attempts to detangle a complex web of values, worldviews and history that lead to vastly different opinions about the Middle East within Jewish families. In this episode of Say More, Neumark talks to opinion editor Jim Dao about her project.  Email us at saymore@globe.com.  Listen to "My Homefronts" here:  https://myhomefronts.com/
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4 days ago
27 minutes

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First Lego, then Hasbro. Is Boston Becoming a Toy Capital?
After years of lobbying, Massachusetts has convinced toy company Hasbro to move its global headquarters from Rhode Island to Boston. Massachusetts is the historic home of many iconic toy companies, like Milton Bradley and Parker Brothers, and now, Hasbro joins Lego for another era of toy making. The question is, should we really be celebrating stealing business from our little neighbor to the south? Say More host Shirley Leung talks to Boston Globe business reporter Jon Chesto about the move and why headquarters still matter to a city like Boston. Email us at saymore@globe.com.
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1 week ago
27 minutes

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Tylenol, Autism, and Mom Blame.
The exact causes of autism are unknown - but you wouldn’t know that from listening to President Trump and his health secretary RFK Jr., who recently announced Tylenol was to blame. The science behind the announcement is not solid - but more troublingly, it falls into an old pattern of blaming mothers for autism, which creates a culture of stigma, says Maura Sullivan, CEO of The Arc of Massachusetts, an advocacy group for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Maura has two sons with autism, so this issue is very personal for her. She talks to Say More host Shirley Leung about her own two sons on the spectrum. Email us at saymore@globe.com.
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2 weeks ago
28 minutes

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The MFA is Changing its America Wing - Hope Trump Doesn’t Mind!
The Boston Museum of Fine Arts has announced a major reshuffle of its American Revolutionary War galleries. The goal, it says, is to tell an ‘inclusive’ story of America’s founding. Meanwhile, in Washington, President Trump has threatened the Smithsonian over similar moves. Globe editorial page editor Jim Dao talks to Ethan Lasser, curator of American Art at the MFA, about the museum’s plans and the threat of government censorship. Email us at saymore@globe.com.
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3 weeks ago
24 minutes

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RERUN: The C-Word: Let’s talk about cancer – starting with my own.
This is a re-run of the first episode of our series "The C-Word" which originally aired May 1, 2025. Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung is generally open about her personal life. But this is the first time she is talking publicly about her own experience with breast cancer. She was treated in Boston hospitals and underwent a mastectomy. Like so many others, she will spend the rest of her life getting tested to make sure she stays cancer-free. In this first episode of The C-Word: Stories of Cancer, Shirley talks about the things that surprised her about cancer, and the ways the disease changed her. Email us at ⁠saymore@globe.com⁠.
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1 month ago
29 minutes

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Steven Pinker to Harvard: Don't be a hero. Negotiate with Trump.
President Donald Trump wants Harvard to cough up at least $500 million. Longtime Harvard professor Steven Pinker says it's extortion. And Harvard should do it anyway. Globe columnist Carine Hajjar, filling in for host Shirley Leung, talks to Steven Pinker about caving to the Trump administration and where to draw the line. Email us at saymore@globe.com.
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1 month ago
23 minutes

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"Succession" New England style: inside the Market Basket drama
The Market Basket board of directors fired its CEO, 'Artie T.' Demoulas, on September 9th after a very public - and very nasty - succession battle. Host Shirley Leung and Globe Business Reporter Jon Chesto get into the messy family dynamics and how other New England business dynasties manage to make it work. Email us at saymore@globe.com. Check out more about the detailed family history of Market Basket on The Globe:https://www.bostonglobe.com/multimedia/audio/podcast/globe-podcast/
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1 month ago
21 minutes

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Is Michelle Wu What Democrats Need?
Boston Mayor Michelle Wu trounced challenger Josh Kraft in Tuesday’s preliminary election for Boston mayor. What makes Wu so successful? And can she be a model for Democrats nationally? Say More host Shirley Leung talks to Boston Globe politics reporter Emma Platoff and columnist Joan Vennochi about the ‘Trump effect’ on the mayoral election. Email us at saymore@globe.com.
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1 month ago
17 minutes

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Leslie Forde on ways moms can beat burnout
It's perhaps never been more exhausting to be a mom. In her book, "Repair with Self-Care: Your Guide to the Mom's Hierarchy of Needs" author Leslie Forde calls on moms to find to put themselves first and prioritize their own health and well being, even when things are busy. Leslie Forde joins host Shirley Leung on today's episode of Say More.
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2 months ago
29 minutes

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Say More Presents: The Outlaw Ocean "A Team of Journalists at Gunpoint"
Today, we’re bringing you the third and final installment of The Outlaw Ocean podcast’s investigation into the shadowy work of the Libyan Coast Guard. The podcast looks into efforts to capture and detain migrants crossing the Mediterranean Sea in the hopes of a new life in Europe.  This week’s episode describes how members of the Outlaw Ocean team were arrested and detained in Libya while they were investigating its network of migrant prisons. If you like what you’ve heard over the last three weeks, you can check out the rest of Outlaw Ocean’s new season wherever you get podcasts.  You can learn more about the work of Outlaw Ocean Project here: https://theoutlawocean.com/podcast
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2 months ago
39 minutes

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Say More Presents: The Outlaw Ocean "A Place ‘Worse Than Hell’
More than 50 million people make their living working offshore on the two-thirds of our planet covered by water.  Today, we’re bringing you episode two from the second season of “The Outlaw Ocean,” a podcast from the Outlaw Ocean Project, a journalism non-profit that investigates human rights, forced labor, and environmental concerns on our planet's seas. Today’s episode picks up where last week’s episode left off, so if you missed that one, we encourage you to go back and give it a listen.  You can learn more about the work of Outlaw Ocean Project here: https://theoutlawocean.com/podcast
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2 months ago
51 minutes

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Say More Presents: The Outlaw Ocean "A War on Migration, Funded by the EU"
More than 50 million people make their living working offshore on two-thirds of our planet covered by water.  The non-profit Outlaw Ocean Project is dedicated to exploring human rights violations, forced labor, and environmental problems that plague the world’s oceans. Over the next few weeks, we’re bringing you a three-part story from the second season of The Outlaw Ocean podcast.  Today, in part 1, Outlaw Ocean explores the efforts of the Libyan Coast Guard to capture migrants crossing the Mediterranean to Europe, and the secretive prisons holding those who are caught.  You can learn more about the work of Outlaw Ocean Project here: https://theoutlawocean.com/podcast
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2 months ago
30 minutes

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Viet Thanh Nguyen on writing as the other
It wasn’t long ago that finding an Asian American novelist in a local bookstore felt like finding a rare flower. Today, the options overflow. Viet Thanh Nguyen was on the leading edge of that wave. His first novel, The Sympathizer, won the Pulitzer Prize in 2016. Since then he has written a sequel, a collection of short stories, books for children,  and a book about the Vietnam War. He’s also become an important public intellectual, promoting the work of immigrant and minority writers, and advocating for Palestinian rights. Today on Say More, editor Jim Dao is joined by Viet Thanh Nguyen for a discussion about his recent works and the role of the writer in times of political turmoil. 
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2 months ago
29 minutes

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Young men are betting big on sports gambling
In 2018, the Supreme Court struck down a law that banned sports betting, and ushered in a new era of gambling. Sports betting has become a multi-billion dollar industry. It’s as ubiquitous as it is lucrative.  In his new book “Losing Big: America’s Reckless Bet on Sports Gambling” Jonathan Cohen argues that the rise of online sports betting, fueled by the convenience of mobile phones, is leading to an out-of-control industry that puts the health of young men at risk. Today, author Jonathan Cohen joins Shirley Leung to discuss gambling and public health.
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3 months ago
30 minutes

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Rep. Jake Auchincloss on the future of Democrats
Democrats are at a crossroads. According to recent polling from CNN, just 28% of Americans view the party favorably. The lowest rating in the poll’s 30-plus year history. Critics say the party lacks vision, and fails to connect with voters. Some say, the party is out of touch. Others believe it’s simply gone too far to the left. But there are new voices looking to dictate a path forward for Democrats, as they work to gain back trust of centrist and working class voters, and seats in Congress heading into next year’s midterm election. Some want to double down on the progressive direction of the party. Others are calling for a return to the center and a new vision for working voters to rally around. Rep. Jake Auchincloss represents Massachusetts' 4th district in Washington. Today, he joins guest host Carine Hajjar for a discussion about his vision for the future of the Democratic Party.
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3 months ago
28 minutes

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What the Michelin Guide means for Boston dining
The  Michelin Guide is known for identifying the crème de la crème of dining in the nation’s hottest cities. And for the first time, it’s coming to Boston. Today on Say More, Shirley Leung is joined by Boston Globe Restaurant Critic Devra First to discuss what Michelin means for the city, and how the challenges facing  Boston restaurants, including high rents and the steep cost of living, are impacting industry workers and diners alike
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3 months ago
22 minutes

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Say More Live: Dr. Kevin Churchwell of Boston Children’s Hospital
It's a uniquely challenging time for our nation's medical community. The Trump administration has set its sites on slashing federal funding for healthcare and research by tens of billions of dollars, which could be catastrophic for the NIH and CDC. Funding is tenuous to say the least. Then there's mounting political pressure to restrict access to care for low income families on Medicaid plus care for at-risk health groups like transgender Americans and immigrants. So how are healthcare leaders navigating these uncertain times? Today we're bringing you a live episode recorded at the Boston Globes Health Equity Summit in May. It's a conversation with Dr. Kevin Churchwell, CEO of Boston Children's Hospital. Dr. Churchwell and host Shirley Leung discuss how major changes at the federal level are impacting healthcare workers and patient care in Boston and beyond.
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3 months ago
22 minutes

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Fourth of July vibe check
The 4th of July. What does it mean to you? This week it's America's birthday, a day that recognizes the signing of the Declaration of Independence, a blueprint for Democracy. It's a celebration that comes around every year, yet this time it feels different. Globe Opinion asked readers and community members to reflect on what it means to be an American today. Tune into this special episode featuring a heartfelt collection of voices and perspectives, and check out Globe Opinion's full package marking Independence Day here. 
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4 months ago
12 minutes

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10 years after tragedy, a historic Black church lives on
Kevin Sack is a longtime reporter who spent much of his career writing long-form pieces for the New York Time. Then in 2015, he helped cover one of the most horrific massacres in recent US history, the killing of nine parishioners who were attending Bible study at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina. The story launched Sack on what would become a 10 year project to document the history of Mother Emanuel, one of the oldest and most influential black churches in America.  The book, which is out now, explores stories of the enslaved and emancipated Black people who created and sustained the church against all odds in a bastion of the confederacy. The book also grapples with eternal questions of forgiveness and resilience a decade after this terrible tragedy.
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4 months ago
27 minutes

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Big ideas and big debates, explained through intimate conversations with the compelling personalities who shape them. AI and biotech. Higher education and health care. Climate and sustainability. Politics and the media. Culture and culture wars. Hosted by Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung.