Description
David and Ilan break down Microsoft's ambitious Co-Pilot updates (including a feature Ilan swears they stole from him), compare AI browsers in real-time with one literally hallucinating its own downloads, and explore why OpenAI's restructuring might have you passing the same $10 bill around like a Three Stooges routine.
Chapters
[00:35] - Microsoft Fall Update and Co-Pilot Features
[04:39] - Real Talk Feature and Sycophantic AI
[08:43] - AI Browser Showdown: Comet vs Copilot in Edge
[10:56] - Security Vulnerabilities in AI Browsers
[12:53] - OpenAI's Restructuring and Going Public
Sponsors
Querio: never wait for product insights again → querio.ai
Links
Microsoft Fall Update - https://youtu.be/j4jXM8yTdnQ
Microsoft Fall Update blog post - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-copilot/blog/2025/10/23/human-centered-ai/
H1 - https://h1.co/
Perplexity Comet - https://www.perplexity.ai/comet
Comet Vulnerabilities pt. 1 - https://brave.com/blog/comet-prompt-injection/
Comet Vulnerabilities pt. 2 - https://brave.com/blog/unseeable-prompt-injections/
Atlas security vulnerability - https://www.esecurityplanet.com/news/openai-atlas-vulnerability/
3 Stooges bit - https://youtu.be/1aVYJ-krSMA?si=wu_Im8bkc95mgJvW&t=9
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From Wix’s upsell hell and clunky prompts to Lovable and Base44’s near-perfect prompt adherence, the hosts break down what separates gimmicky automation from true AI leverage. If you’re building, shipping, or just curious how far AI website builders have come. This episode is your filter for signal over noise.
CHAPTERS
[00:00] - Intro
[02:41] - The showdown starts
[03:03] - Wix
[12:00] - Lovable
[15:09] - Base 44
[18:33] - Conclusions
LINKS
Querio: Natural language analytics for your product team - https://bit.ly/panc_querio
Base 44 - https://base44.com/
Wix - https://www.wix.com/
Lovable - https://lovable.dev/
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MUSIC
Oleksandr Savochka
Most people think building a powerful AI copilot takes months of coding and a team of engineers, but in this episode Ilan shows how he built one in just one evening that could plan strategy, analyze competitors, write product documents, and even automate workflows. We break down exactly how to set up your system prompt, feed it real context, and use recursion to make it smarter with every iteration, plus how to turn it into a productivity machine that does the work of an entire product team. If you have ever wished for an AI business partner that actually thinks with you, this is the blueprint.
CHAPTERS
[00:00] - Introduction & Setting the Stage
[01:25] - Building an AI Copilot from Scratch
[09:30] - Enhancing the Copilot with Research & Requirements
[15:40] - Automations, Applications & Final Takeaways
LINKS
Querio: Natural language analytics for your product team - https://bit.ly/panc_querio
Tal Raviv’s post on Lenny’s Newsletter - https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-super-ic-pm-tal-raviv
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MUSIC
Description
David and Ilan catch you up on the flurry of AI news from mid-October, from Anthropic's latest Sonnet release to OpenAI's Dev Days announcements. Plus, they dive deep into Sora 2's video generation capabilities and share the structured prompting techniques that actually work for creating multi-shot videos (including mountain-biking dogs).
Chapters
[00:38] - Anthropic Sonnet 4.5 and Full-Stack Coding Tools
[03:19] - Microsoft's Text-to-Audio Models
[06:09] - OpenAI's Big Announcements: Commerce, Sora 2, and Dev Days
[12:24] - AI Slop Goes Corporate and Lionsgate's Failed Experiment
[14:56] - Sora 2 Deep Dive and Video Creation Techniques
Sponsors
Querio: your AI data analyst → querio.ai
Links
Anthropic Claude - https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5
Lovable - https://lovable.dev/cloud
Bolt - https://bolt.new/blog/bolt-v2
Microsoft Copilot Labs - https://copilot.microsoft.com/labs
OpenAI - https://openai.com/devday/
Sora - https://sora.chatgpt.com/
Runway & Lionsgate - https://3dvf.com/en/generative-ai-one-year-later-the-runway-lionsgate-alliance-faces-reality/
Deloitte & AU government - https://fortune.com/2025/10/07/deloitte-ai-australia-government-report-hallucinations-technology-290000-refund/
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Description
Ilan takes David on a deep dive into N8N, the workflow automation platform that's somehow worth $2.3 billion despite making developers set up Google API projects manually. They explore how this "Goldilocks" tool sits between Zapier's simplicity and full-on coding, with Ilan walking through his real-world workflow that automates LinkedIn posts from podcast episodes—complete with all the nerdy technical hurdles he encountered along the way.
Chapters
[00:28] - What is N8N and Why It Exists
[03:58] - N8N's Meteoric Rise and Funding Rounds
[06:38] - Pricing Model and Developer Community
[08:28] - How Workflows and Agents Work in N8N
[10:06] - Building a Real Workflow: LinkedIn Post Automation
[16:18] - Lessons Learned and Recommendations
Business Use Cases/Applications
Automated social media content creation workflow using webhooks, AI agents, and Google integrations to draft LinkedIn posts from podcast transcripts
Setting up custom API connections in Google Cloud Platform to enable N8N integrations with Drive and Gmail
Using N8N's code nodes to run custom JavaScript or Python for data transformation within workflows
Sponsors
Querio → https://querio.ai
Links
N8N - https://n8n.io
Transistor - https://transistor.fm
Lindy AI - https://www.lindy.ai
Zapier - https://zapier.com
Sequoia Capital - https://www.sequoiacap.com
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Description
Ilan puts Lindy.ai to the test for podcast automation and customer discovery, only to find himself debugging workflows until 2 AM while his wife waits for date night. David and Ilan break down what works, what doesn't, and how Lindy compares to ChatGPT's agent mode.
Chapters
[00:00] - How Lindy Ruined Date Night
[03:34] - The Lindy Workflow Disaster
[08:11] - Pricing and Credits Problem
[13:17] - Integration Issues and Hallucinations
[23:00] - What Actually Works Well
[30:08] - Final Verdict and Alternatives
Sponsors
Querio → https://querio.ai
Links
Lindy.ai - https://www.lindy.ai
Transistor - https://transistor.fm
N8N - https://n8n.io
Zapier - https://zapier.com
Crunchbase - https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/lindy
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Description
David and Ilan take you on a Nano Banana Bonanza and explore Google's viral image generation model. They tell you why it's creating such a buzz, how to use it effectively, and practical business applications beyond viral memes.
Chapters
Key Topics
Pro Tips
Sponsor
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→ Try it at querio.ai
Links
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David and Ilan dive into the news from the last week of AI and Vibe Coding, covering shifting partnerships between tech giants, breakthrough achievements in AI capabilities, and emerging concerns around safety and security.
Sponsor
Querio - AI agent for natural language data insights
https://querio.ai
Chapters
Links
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CHAPTERS
[00:00] Intro
[02:33] Defining problems using AI
[06:07] Generating hypotheses using AI
[12:30] The Mom Test
[15:04] Next Steps
SPONSOR
Querio - https://bit.ly/panc_querio
LINKS
The Mom Test - https://www.momtestbook.com/
Music by Oleksandr Savochka
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DESCRIPTION David and Ilan catch you up on the latest AI news, covering OpenAI's new budget tier, why 95% of AI projects fail, and Google's impressive new image generation capabilities.
CHAPTERS
[00:00] - OpenAI's Go Tier: $5 AI for Global Markets
[06:13] - Latam-GPT: Regional AI for Latin America
[07:13] - Small Language Models vs. LLMs
[12:34] - MIT Report: Why 95% of AI Projects Fail
[16:43] - Accenture CEO's Red Flags for AI Adoption
[20:33] - World Models: Beyond Language Understanding
[26:12] - Google's Nano Banana Image Generation Demo
KEY LINKS
SPONSORS
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Welcome to season 2! In this season, David and Ilan are exploring the process of becoming an AI native product team by building a product from scratch using AI tools along the way. This week, you’ll get to hear about how they’re thinking of building a product and how deep research does just a mediocre job at coming up with business ideas.
Chapters
00:13 Building in Public: The Journey Begins
03:36 Exploring Problem Discovery
10:54 Niche Markets and Personal Interests
15:30 Evaluating GPT-Generated Problems
24:53 Sustainability and Consumer Choices
31:29Exploring AI Tools for Discovery
LINKS
Ilan’s product for teachers: https://teachr.me/
Bastion Cycles: https://bastioncycles.com/
SPONSORS Co.Lab Build Co-Pilot – Turn your idea into a working product with your first customers pre-loaded
Querio – Natural language analytics for your product team
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Music: Oleksandr Savochka
Nabeel Khan shares his journey from operations manager to Amazon's youngest Senior PM, and why he believes product management will thrive alongside AI development.
What we cover:
CHAPTERS
[00:00] - Introduction to Nabeel
[08:03] - The Future of Product Management
[24:23] - Getting Hired and Hiring Strategies
LINKS
Nabeel Khan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nabeel-y-khan/
Nabeel’s company: Nayru - https://www.linkedin.com/company/trynayru/
Madhu Guru - Google moving from a writing first culture to a building-first one: https://x.com/realmadhuguru/status/1950336434126336154?s=46&t=ipsnrJAOf8pNNhup0-xHnQ
Vibe coding interview post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nabeel-y-khan_google-tech-productmanagement-activity-7349447677396312065-AyIo?utm_medium=ios_app&rcm=ACoAAA1kDVQBLeuCVf2Li66BAzt9_K3rn_283dU&utm_source=social_share_send&utm_campaign=copy_link
Jobs to be done: https://www.christenseninstitute.org/theory/jobs-to-be-done/
SPONSORS
Co.Lab Build Co-Pilot – Turn your idea into a working product with your first customers pre-loaded
Querio – Natural language analytics for your product team
DESCRIPTION
Ilan interviews Rami, co-founder of Querio, about his journey from Amazon operations to product management to founding an AI-enabled startup. Rami drops knowledge on what PMs need to know when starting a company.
CHAPTERS
[00:00] - Rami's background: From Amazon warehouses to Alexa PM
[10:48] - Founding Querio and startup lessons learned
[19:39] - Querio demo: AI-powered data queries in action
[27:40] - "Un-AI-ing" your product and AI philosophy
[34:39] - Shape Up framework and where to find Rami
GUEST
Rami - LinkedIn: /in/datarami | X: @ramiabh | Calendar: calendly.com/ramiabh
SPONSORS
Querio – AI-native business intelligence platform for self-service data analytics → https://querio.ai
LINKS
Reid Hoffman quote - https://x.com/reidhoffman/status/847142924240379904?lang=en
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DESCRIPTION
Ilan and David demystify AI agents and show you that building them is more accessible than you think! They explore the difference between "agentic AI" and true "AI agents," walk through a practical framework, and build a working news summarization agent live using Replit.
CHAPTERS
[00:00] - Intro & Defining AI agents vs agentic AI
[06:18] - Testing the framework with examples
[10:06] - Breaking down the news agent problem
[13:39] - Step-by-step agent building tutorial
[20:13] - Technical implementation strategy
[23:59] - Live building demo in Replit
[27:51] - Results and key takeaways
SPONSORS
Querio – Natural language analytics for your product team. Two-month free trial for listeners. → https://bit.ly/panc_querio
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DESCRIPTION
David is joined by Ray Kanani and Adam Kropf to discuss the evolving role of AI in product management, exploring its implications for society, practical applications, and the skills needed for product managers in this new era.
* How AI shifts the product manager’s job
* What expertise means in an LLM-powered world
* Why puzzles (yes, puzzles!) are a form of rebellion
* And the role of passion in the future of work
CHAPTERS
[00:00] - Intro
[01:00] - Intelligence going to zero
[03:30] - Is the hype real? Or are we hitting a plateau?
[05:00] - Cheap intelligence, expensive expertise
[07:00] - Using AI to challenge your own thinking
[09:00] - Marketing stacks are now AI-only
[10:30] - The sparring partner: ChatGPT with context memory
[12:00] - Voice interfaces and anthropomorphism
[17:00] - AI assistants vs. human patterns
[20:00] - Product skills that still matter: discovery, storytelling, context
[23:00] - What would you build if money didn’t matter?
[26:00] - The case for analog experiences: puzzles & purpose
[29:00] - Where to find Ray & Adam
SPONSORS
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→ https://bit.ly/pandc_colab
**Querio** – Natural language analytics for your product team
→ https://bit.ly/panc_querio
LINKS
Adam Kropf - https://www.linkedin.com/in/akropf/
Ray Kanani - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raykanani/
Good Fortune Puzzle Co. - https://goodfortunepuzzleco.com/
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What if you could get a comprehensive market analysis that would normally take weeks of research in just 13 minutes, complete with competitor breakdowns, financial projections, and strategic frameworks? In this episode, we put AI's newest "deep research" capabilities to the ultimate test, pitting Gemini, ChatGPT, and Perplexity against each other in a head-to-head battle to analyze the explosive $30 billion vibe coding market. While AI companies are raising billions and getting acquired overnight (we're looking at you, Windsurf drama), we discovered which AI tool actually delivers actionable insights versus pretty charts with outdated data. And the results might surprise you! Whether you're a product manager hunting for market opportunities or just someone who wants to stop spending countless hours on research rabbit holes, this deep dive reveals which AI research assistant deserves a more prominent spot in your workflow.
CHAPTERS
[00:00] - News
[06:02] - The Setup
[10:52] - Perplexity
[20:10] - Gemini
[28:46] - GPT
[40:38] - Conclusion
SPONSORS
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Querio - https://bit.ly/panc_querio
NEWS
Open AI releases ChatGPT agent: https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-agent/
Lovable raised 200M at 1.8B valuation: https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/17/lovable-becomes-a-unicorn-with-200m-series-a-just-8-months-after-launch/
Windsurf reverse acqui-hire by Google, then acquisition by Cognition (makers of Devin): https://devops.com/cognition-ai-to-acquire-windsurf-after-google-licensing-deal/
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What if the secret to next-level productivity was hiding in plain sight?
In this week's episode of Prompt and Circumstance, David and Ilan dive into three surprisingly powerful AI tools that could change the way you work. Forget the jargon and hype: they're sharing practical tips you can use immediately.
CHAPTERS
[00:00] News
[05:37] Voice dictation
[12:35] AI Studio
[15:51] Deep research & NotebookLM
SPONSORS
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Querio - https://bit.ly/panc_querio
TOOLS
NEWS
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SUMMARY
Which AI notetakers stack up and which ones just flop?
David (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dvuong/) and Ilan (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilan-rotenberg/) test 10 AI note-taking tools in challenging conditions to find the best options for your meetings
CHAPTERS
00:00 Setting the Stage for AI Note Taking
01:08 Method
01:11 Scoring
03:13 Grain
06:45 Circleback
08:42 Sybill
10:41 Sembly
12:30 Fireflies
14:00 tl;dv
16:52 Zoom
20:35 Notta
24:11 Granola
25:50 Loom
30:53 Rev
32:54 Tiers
AI NOTE-TAKERS WE TESTED
Fireflies, Sembly, Circleback, Sybill, Granola, Zoom, Loom, tl;dv, Grain, Notta
Bonus:
Rev (transcription service)
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Ilan pushed a vibe coded app to production and shares three important lessons he learned along the way.
Here's the link to the working prototype.
EPISODE CHAPTERS
[00:00] - Intro
[01:00] - Important AI News
[05:00] - Lessons
MENTIONED
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Querio - https://bit.ly/panc_querio
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Episode Summary
David and Ilan dive deep into Model Context Protocol (MCP), the emerging standard that's revolutionizing how AI agents interact with software platforms. Learn why this could be more important than traditional APIs and how it's already transforming product workflows.
What You'll Learn
Key Topics & Timestamps
[00:00] AI News Roundup
[06:22] What is Model Context Protocol (MCP)?
[11:31] Real-World MCP Example
[20:27] Security & Best Practices
Mentioned in this episode
Useful Links
MCP Resources
Security & Best Practices
AI Coding Security
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