Join Todd Conklin in the final episode of the Pre-Extended Investigation Podcast as he hosts an insightful conversation with Shane Bush and Professor David Woods. This concluding episode offers a compelling discussion on the evolution of safety practices across industries, the impact of leadership on organizational sustainability, and the challenges faced by modern safety paradigms.Dive into the nuances of human and organizational learning as Shane and Todd reflect on their decades-long journey, touching upon personal anecdotes and professional insights. Professor Woods contributes his expertise on the complexities of maintaining safety in aviation and beyond, highlighting the essential interplay of technology, human factors, and leadership in high-stakes environments. This episode is a thought-provoking exploration of the past, present, and future of safety and learning—an invaluable listen for anyone interested in organizational excellence.