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In this episode of the Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with Jack Scott, Senior Prosecutor with the Queensland Police Service, to explore the fascinating and often gritty world of criminal law.
Jack shares how his journey to the courtroom was anything but straightforward. Jack walks through his experience of struggling with vision impairment and leaving private practice, to nearly dropping out of law entirely before rediscovering his passion for advocacy.
With humour, candour, and insight, Jack opens up about:
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A unique and lively conversation that highlights the human side of law, this episode will resonate with lawyers, students, academics, and anyone curious about where the legal profession is headed.
WE'RE BACK: In this episode of The Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with internationally respected consultant, speaker, and author Simon Tupman.
After an early career as a solicitor in England, Simon transitioned into consulting and has spent over three decades helping law firms and legal professionals navigate challenges of leadership, business structure, and cultural change. His latest book, The Heart of Practice, distils insights from leaders across the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, tackling the profession’s greatest Achilles heel: leadership.
Simon and Chantal explore:
Along the way, Simon shares stories from his personal journey, including a surprising tale from the South of France with lessons in freedom, connection, and reflection.
If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to lead in law—or how to align purpose, professionalism, and business in turbulent times—this episode offers both wisdom and practical insight.
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🎙 People in Legal – 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 𝗘𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 💡At the Women + AI Summit, David Woolstencroft spoke with Anna Golovsky about her role in legal tech, the value of diversity, and the practical challenges of AI adoption.From starting small with proof of concepts to building strong vendor partnerships, the conversation highlighted how curiosity, collaboration, and active engagement are essential to transforming legal service delivery.💡 Key takeaways: ↳ 𝗗𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗱𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝘂𝘁𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 ↳ 𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗳 𝗼𝗳 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗲𝗻𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗶𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 ↳ 𝗥𝗢𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝗸𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗼 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮 𝗰𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗔𝗜 ↳ 𝗩𝗲𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗹𝗼𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗹𝘂𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱𝘀 ↳ 𝗖𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗾𝘂𝗶𝗿𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗲𝗻𝗴𝗮𝗴𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁, 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗽𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗼𝗯𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 ↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗳𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗱𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 – 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗱𝗶𝗮𝗹𝗼𝗴𝘂𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹🙌 Thanks to Terri Mottershead, Cat Moon, Caryn Sandler, The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the Women + AI Summit such an impactful event.
At the Women + AI Summit, David Woolstencroft spoke with Bernadette Hyland-Wood, PhD about integrating AI in legal practices, from the promise and pitfalls of Microsoft Copilot to the importance of regulation, education, and ethics for small law firms.They also explored the role of women in technology, the power of community support, and why AI should complement—not replace—human expertise.💡 Key takeaways: ↳ Responsible AI usage is essential for legal practices ↳ Microsoft Copilot offers potential but carries risks of data contamination ↳ Regulation and education are critical for safe AI adoption ↳ Over-reliance on AI can erode professional skills ↳ Ethics and transparency are vital for trust in AI ↳ Community support strengthens AI adoption and best practices🙌 Thanks to Terri Mottershead, Cat Moon, Caryn Sandler, The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the Women + AI Summit such an impactful event.
At the Women in AI Summit, David Woolstencroft spoke with Kim Trajer and Liza Greenwood about breaking down barriers to AI adoption in the legal industry.From creating psychological safety within teams to educating clients about AI’s risks and benefits, this conversation explored how community support and open dialogue can turn fear into innovation.💡 Key takeaways:↳ Barriers to AI adoption include fear and lack of understanding↳ Psychological safety empowers teams to experiment with new technologies↳ Younger generations tend to embrace new tech more readily↳ Clients need education on AI’s potential and pitfalls↳ Community support and shared experiences can drive innovationChapters00:00Introduction to the Women in AI Summit01:49Understanding Mindset and AI Adoption05:27Creating Psychological Safety in Teams07:42Educating Clients on AI Risks and Benefits🙌 Thanks to Terri Mottershead, Cat Moon, Caryn Sandler, The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the Women + AI Summit such an impactful event.
🎙 People in Legal – Law and Beyond ShowHost Chantal McNaught sits down with Wenee Yap – serial entrepreneur, writer, and founder of Survive Law – to explore the power of storytelling, the realities of law school, and why community matters.From mental health challenges to creative ventures, Wenee shares how her journey blends law, writing, and entrepreneurship – and why relatable resources and shared experiences are vital for the next generation of lawyers.💡 Key takeaways:↳ Storytelling is a powerful tool in the legal profession↳ Survive Law supports law students through their toughest challenges↳ Mental health struggles are common but often hidden in law school↳ Creativity and law can go hand-in-hand↳ Community and shared experiences drive real growthChapters00:00Introduction to Winnie Yap and Her Journey03:01The Intersection of Law and Creativity06:00The Challenges of Law School09:06The Birth of Survive Law12:06The Power of Storytelling in Law14:57Transitioning from Law to Entrepreneurship18:14 Riding the Unicorn: A New Venture21:03The Importance of Community in Legal Education23:54Reflections on Personal Growth and Success26:50Travel Memories and Life Lessons
🎙 People in Legal – 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 𝗘𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 💡 At the Women + AI Summit, David spoke with Jaysee Sunapho CAPM, a data architect, about the real foundations for successful AI—starting with clean, well-managed data.From the dangers of using AI as a bandaid for bad data to the critical role of skilled data teams, Jaysee shares how industries like healthcare and law can embrace innovation without skipping the groundwork.💡 Key takeaways:↳ 𝗗𝗮𝘁𝗮 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗯𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗔𝗜↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗮 𝗯𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗮𝗶𝗱 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗯𝗮𝗱 𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗮↳ 𝗖𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗳𝘂𝗹 𝘃𝗲𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗿 𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝗼𝗿 𝗯𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗸 𝗔𝗜 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀↳ 𝗛𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗮 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘁𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗺 𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹↳ 𝗦𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲𝘀 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗮Chapters00:00Introduction to AI and Data Architecture02:16Vendor Selection in AI Implementation04:18The Dangers of Over-Engineering Solutions05:32The Importance of Data Quality06:30The Role of Data Professionals in AI Teams07:11Cautious Embrace of AI Adoption🙌 Thanks to Terri Mottershead, Cat Moon, Caryn Sandler, The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the Women + AI Summit such an impactful event.
David sat down with Andrea Foot to unpack the reality of AI in the legal sector—beyond the hype and into the cultural, structural, and human challenges of adoption.From the “𝗔𝗜 𝗴𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗿𝘂𝘀𝗵” to the evolving role of women in shaping these conversations, Andrea shares why open dialogue, values, and people-first thinking are essential for making AI work in law.💡 Key takeaways:↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝗴𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗿𝘂𝘀𝗵 𝗶𝗻 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹↳ 𝗖𝘂𝗹𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝗲 𝗯𝗶𝗴𝗴𝗲𝗿 𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗱𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗻 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗴𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝘀 𝗺𝘂𝗰𝗵 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝘀↳ 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗽𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗔𝗜 𝗱𝗲𝗯𝗮𝘁𝗲↳ 𝗘𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗰𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲𝘀 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗴𝘂𝗶𝗱𝗲 𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻Chapters00:00Introduction and Conference Overview01:28The AI Gold Rush in Legal Tech04:27Cultural Impacts of AI in Organisations07:06Women in AI and Broader Implications🙌 Thanks to The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 such an impactful event.
🎙 People in Legal – Women + AI Summit Edition 🌟🤖David caught up with Bríd Heffernan to talk change management, AI adoption, and why women in legal tech are reshaping the industry.From empowering young lawyers to enhancing existing tech stacks, this conversation explores the real opportunities and challenges AI brings to legal.💡 Key takeaways:↳ 𝗥𝗲𝗮𝗹 𝗮𝗶 𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗻𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀↳ 𝗖𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗮𝗴𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗸𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗼 𝗔𝗜 𝘀𝘂𝗰𝗰𝗲𝘀𝘀↳ 𝗡𝗼 “𝗼𝗻𝗲-𝘀𝗶𝘇𝗲-𝗳𝗶𝘁𝘀-𝗮𝗹𝗹” 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗮𝗱𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻↳ 𝗧𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗮 𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗻𝗲𝗿𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹↳ 𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗴 𝗹𝗮𝘄𝘆𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝗮𝘃𝗲𝗻𝘂𝗲𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵↳ 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 𝗶𝗻 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗿𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘂𝗮𝗹 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸—𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗹𝗮𝘄𝘆𝗲𝗿𝘀↳ 𝗘𝗻𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗲𝘅𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗔𝗜↳ 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 𝗶𝘀 𝘃𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹↳ 𝗟𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝗿𝗼𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘄𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗔𝗜Chapters00:00The Evolution of AI in Legal Services02:34Change Management and Mindset in Legal Tech05:29Strategic Implementation of AI in Law Firms08:15Opportunities for Young Lawyers in the AI Era11:20Empowering Women in Legal Technology🙏 Thanks to The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the Women + AI Summit such a standout event.
🎙 People in Legal – 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 𝗘𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 🌟Heather Paterson from Legora to unpack what it really takes to move the needle on AI adoption in legal.From leadership mindset to curious culture—this is a powerful conversation on how law firms can navigate the AI wave together.💡 Key takeaways:↳ 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗺𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝗻 𝗔𝗜 𝗷𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗻𝗲𝘆𝘀↳ 𝗙𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝘁 𝗱𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗮𝗱𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻—𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁’𝘀 𝗼𝗸↳ 𝗟𝗮𝗴𝗼𝗿𝗮 𝗲𝗻𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗽𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗲-𝘄𝗶𝗱𝗲 𝗔𝗜 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗺𝘀↳ 𝗖𝗹𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗱𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗲𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝘆↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗮𝗱𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘃𝗮𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗰𝗿𝗼𝘀𝘀 𝗽𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘀↳ 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗲𝗿 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗮𝗹𝘆𝘀𝘁𝘀↳ 𝗟𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗽 𝗺𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘀—𝗯𝗼𝗹𝗱𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗴𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗼𝗽↳ 𝗠𝗶𝗱𝘀𝗶𝘇𝗲 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗻’𝘁 𝗮𝗳𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘁 ↳ 𝗖𝘂𝗿𝗶𝗼𝘀𝗶𝘁𝘆 & 𝗲𝗺𝗽𝗮𝘁𝗵𝘆 𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽 𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝗳𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 ↳ 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗔𝗜 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘀𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗳𝗮𝘀𝘁—𝗸𝗲𝗲𝗽 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴Chapters00:00The Power of Community in AI Adoption02:27Understanding Lagora and Its Use Cases05:03Driving Change in Legal Firms07:54Partnerships and Long-term Success10:25Curiosity and Empathy in AI Transformation🙏 Thanks to The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for powering this remarkable summit.
🎙 People in Legal – 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 𝗘𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 💡David caught up with Jan Christie at the 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 in Sydney to dive into how AI is reshaping talent, training, and the human side of law.This insightful conversation explores the future of capability building in legal practice—and why it’s not just about tech, but also about empathy, curiosity, and the connections we build.💡 Key takeaways:↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝗿𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗱𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗽𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝗻 𝗹𝗮𝘄↳ 𝗖𝗮𝗽𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝗲𝗺𝗽𝗮𝘁𝗵𝘆 & 𝗰𝘂𝗿𝗶𝗼𝘀𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗶𝗻 𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗲𝗻𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 & 𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸—𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗮𝗱𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗶𝘁↳ 𝗥𝗲𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗶𝘁𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘆 𝗳𝗼𝗰𝘂𝘀 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗼𝗻 𝗵𝘂𝗺𝗮𝗻 𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀↳ 𝗦𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗳𝗶𝘁 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗻𝗲𝘁𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸𝘀 & 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀↳ 𝗙𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗵𝘂𝗺𝗮𝗻-𝗔𝗜 𝗯𝗮𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹Chapters00:00Introduction to AI and Talent Development02:42The Human Element in AI Integration05:22Balancing Talent Selection and Capability Building07:52Practical Strategies for Small Firms10:28Final Thoughts on Technology and Caution🙏 Huge thanks to The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making this important summit possible.
David Woolstencroft sat down with Cat Moon, Caryn Sandler, and Terri Mottershead to unpack what real inclusion looks like in AI—and why this moment matters.Born from frustration, the Women in AI movement is more than a hashtag. It's a call for responsible innovation, community-led change, and collective courage to shape the future of legal tech together.💡 Key takeaways:↳ 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 𝗶𝗻 𝗔𝗜 𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗴𝗲𝗱 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗳𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻—𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗮 𝗱𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗿𝗲 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲↳ 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗻𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗔𝗜 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗲𝘅𝗶𝘁𝘆↳ 𝗜𝗻𝗰𝗹𝘂𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗶𝘁𝘆 = 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗽𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗔𝗜↳ 𝗙𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹—𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝘁 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗻𝘀𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗲𝗱↳ 𝗘𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗲’𝘀 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴—𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝗟𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘀↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗯𝗮𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗳𝘂𝗹𝗳𝗶𝗹𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁↳ 𝗖𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 𝗶𝘀𝗻’𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴—𝗶𝘁’𝘀 𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲🙏 Thanks to The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for bringing this incredible summit to life.Chapters00:00Introduction to the Conference and Speakers01:31The Genesis of the Women in AI Movement03:26Insights from the Conference04:55Addressing the Psychology of Change06:23The Impact of AI on Personal Lives08:16The Future of Work with AI09:50Transforming Fear into Opportunity11:13Next Steps and Community Engagement
Chapters00:00Introduction and Background02:28Navigating Legal Tech Confusion04:47Understanding Client Needs and Tool Selection07:22The Role of AI in Legal Services10:02Evaluating Startups and Market Risks12:36Return on Investment in Legal Tech15:27The Future of Legal Services and AI17:47Training the Next Generation of Lawyers20:26Commerciality and Client Relationships23:06Broader Perspectives in Legal Consulting25:57Comparison Tools for Legal Tech28:25Conclusion and favourite Suits Character
SummaryIn this engaging conversation, the speakers explore the evolving landscape of legal technology, focusing on the integration of AI and its implications for the legal profession. They discuss current trends, challenges, and opportunities within the industry, as well as ethical considerations surrounding AI use. The dialogue also touches on personal reflections and futuristic visions inspired by popular culture, particularly Star Trek.Takeaways• The legal tech landscape is rapidly evolving with AI integration.• AI can enhance legal practice but comes with challenges like hallucination.• Lawyers need to adapt to new roles as traditional tasks diminish.• Ethical considerations are crucial in the deployment of AI in law.• The future may see a shift away from smartphones to voice-activated technology.• Infrastructure for AI in legal tech is essential for future growth.• Legal tech companies are becoming increasingly valuable in the market.• AI can assist in monitoring and protecting legal conversations.• Personal reflections on technology can inspire innovative solutions.• Cultural references like Star Trek highlight the potential of future technologies.Chapters00:00Introduction and Setting the Scene02:24Current Trends in Legal Tech05:03Challenges and Opportunities with AI in Law07:31The Future of AI and Legal Practice10:01Personal Reflections on AI and Legacy12:26Predictive Capabilities and Legal Implications15:06Fun Insights and Star Trek References
Episode 1 - The Law and Beyond Show with Chantal McNaught: The Drone Lawyer AKA Tom Pils shares his insights about carving out emerging areas of practice from the Gartner Hype Cycle, staying competent in the changing landscape of legal technology, and how leaders can support their people to shine. Takeaways• The transition from corporate tax to drone law was unexpected but rewarding.• Understanding the difference between concept and content is crucial in legal practice.• Smaller firms often provide more exposure and flexibility for lawyers.• Integrity, trust, and exactitude are core values in legal practice.• Dabbling in areas outside your expertise can be risky.• Emerging technologies like drones and AI present unique opportunities for lawyers.• Building a strong support network is essential for professional growth.• Staying informed about industry trends is vital for legal competence.• The lack of significant case law in drone law offers a unique opportunity for new lawyers.• It's important to balance ambition with realistic capabilities.Chapters00:00From Accounting to Drone Law: A Unique Journey10:09The Evolution of Drone Law and Its Challenges19:53Core Values in Legal Practice: Integrity, Trust, and Exactitude30:08Navigating the Future: Technology, AI, and Legal Practice
In this episode, Ronni Millard sits down with David Langdon, founder of Blind Spot, to talk about legal tech, accessibility, and AI’s role in transforming the legal profession.From data strategy to inclusive design, David shares how his personal journey with vision impairment has shaped his mission: making tech work better—for everyone.💡 Key takeaways:↳ 𝗔 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗴𝗶𝗰 𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗮𝗰𝗵 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝗮𝗱𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗹↳ 𝗗𝗮𝘁𝗮 𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗲𝘁—𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗮 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗳𝗶𝗹𝗲𝘀↳ 𝗙𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗼𝗳𝘁𝗲𝗻 𝗳𝗼𝗰𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝗳𝗲𝗮𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲𝘀—𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗯𝗶𝗴𝗴𝗲𝗿 𝗳𝗶𝘁↳ 𝗜𝗻𝗰𝗹𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗺𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗲↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗽𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗲𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝘆↳ 𝗖𝘂𝗹𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗹 𝗱𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗰𝘁 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝗮𝗱𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗴𝗹𝗼𝗯𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆↳ 𝗗𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗱’𝘀 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗮𝗶𝗿𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝗻𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗵𝗲 𝗱𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗴𝗻𝘀 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆↳ 𝗡𝗲𝘁𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗽𝘀 𝗱𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝘀𝘂𝗰𝗰𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵↳ 𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗿𝗮𝗰𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗷𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗻𝗲𝘆Chapters00:00Introduction to People in Legal Podcast01:10David Langdon's Journey in Legal Tech02:10Shifts in Law Firms' Approach to Technology06:53Evaluating Legal Tech: Common Mistakes09:42Inclusion and Accessibility in Legal Workplaces14:23The Role of AI in Legal Practice21:39Cultural Differences in Tech Adoption Across Regions25:26David's Move to Australia and Its Impact29:35Advice for Newcomers in Legal Tech
In this episode of People in Legal, host Andrew Hay speaks with Roni Millard, founder of The Wellbeing Edge, about her journey from a high-pressure corporate career to prioritizing health and wellbeing. Roni shares her personal turning point with burnout and cancer, and the challenges legal professionals—especially women—face in balancing high performance with self-care. They discuss the state of wellbeing in the legal industry, the cultural shifts needed, and practical tips to build resilience and support mental health.Takeaways:• The legal industry often prioritises endurance over wellbeing.• Burnout can manifest in various forms, including emotional detachment.• High performance and wellbeing can coexist with proper boundary setting.• Personal experiences can lead to significant shifts in perspective on health.• Women in legal face unique challenges, including burnout and decision paralysis.• Organisations need to embed health and wellbeing into their culture.• Daily check-ins can create a safe space for employees to share.• Empowerment comes from choosing how to respond to situations.• Data-driven approaches can help identify wellbeing issues in organisations.• Success in the legal profession should be redefined to include wellbeing.Chapters00:00Introduction to Ronnie Millard and Her Journey01:38High Performance and Wellbeing in the Legal Sector06:07The Turning Point: From Invincibility to Health Awareness12:21The Evolution of Workplace Wellbeing Initiatives20:11The Wellbeing Edge: Services and Impact22:41Challenges Faced by Women in Legal Leadership23:00Women in Legal: Addressing Burnout26:37Redefining Success and Fulfillment30:50Recognizing Signs of Burnout35:50Building a Culture of Wellbeing41:29Empowerment Through Choice43:16Redefining Ambition in Legal Professionals
In this episode of the Legal Change Agents podcast, Andrea Foote speaks with Tessa, CEO of Moores, about her journey to leadership and the shift toward human-centric, values-based legal practice. They discuss navigating change, recruitment challenges, and the importance of building a purpose-driven, adaptable culture. Tessa also reflects on how law firms must evolve with societal and technological shifts—and why self-awareness is key to leading through change.Takeaways:• Tessa identifies as a 'people enabler' in her roles.• Her upbringing instilled a strong sense of social justice.• She transitioned from a public law litigator to CEO of Moores.• Moores employs a values-based pricing model, eschewing time-based billing.• Human-centric practices are essential for law firms' future.• Change resistance is common in the legal industry.• Recruiting for adaptability is crucial in today's legal landscape.• Generational differences impact attitudes towards change.• Tessa emphasises the importance of self-awareness in leadership.• The legal industry must evolve to remain relevant and effective.00:00Introduction to Legal Change Agents Podcast02:01Tessa's Journey to CEO: A Personal Narrative06:05Values-Based Pricing: A Revolutionary Approach10:48Human-Centric Law Firms: The Future of Legal Practice18:00Navigating Change in the Legal Industry24:04Recruitment and Culture: Finding the Right Fit29:50Reflections on Leadership and Change Management
Andrea Foot meets with Robyna May, CIO at McInnes Wilson Lawyers, to explore how law firms are being reshaped by technology—and why culture matters just as much as code. Robyna shares her path into legal tech and reflects on the shifting role of IT as a strategic enabler rather than just a support function. From generative AI in the hands of clients to dismantling outdated hierarchies in law firms, this conversation dives into what real change looks like—and what it takes to get there.🔑 Key Takeaways• IT is an enabler, not a back-office function—it’s core to client service.• The traditional fee earner vs support divide is holding firms back.• Clients are using AI, and that’s reshaping the legal playing field.• Lawyers must adapt to evolving expectations and workflows.• Legal professionals are no longer immune to public accountability—just like doctors.• Process matters—you can’t improve what you don’t understand.• Change needs clear communication, ownership, and leadership.• Trust and authenticity are the foundation of any successful transformation.• Leadership isn't just about direction—it's about enabling others through change.• Robyna’s personal journey informs her empathetic approach to transformation.Chapters00:00Introduction to Rabina May and Her Role02:59Navigating Change in the Legal Sector05:58The Impact of Generative AI on Law Firms08:59Shifting Perspectives on Legal Work12:10The Role of Technology in Law14:55Managing Change and Ownership in Law Firms17:56Lessons from Experience and Leadership20:57The Importance of Trust in Change Management24:02Conclusion and Reflections on Change
In this episode, Giles Thompson, Head of Revenue at Avvoka, shares his personal journey from commercial litigator to legal tech leader. He reflects on the evolution of legal technology, the emotional drivers behind adoption, and how different global markets are approaching AI and automation. Giles also dives into the highs and lows of startup life, the value of lived experience in sales, and why agentic workflows are shaping the next wave of legal innovation.🔑 Key Takeaways:Giles transitioned from a commercial litigator to legal tech.Legal tech is experiencing rapid acceleration and disruption.Deep understanding of client needs is essential for tech adoption.Personal experiences power more authentic sales strategies.Resilience (and humour) are vital in startup environments.Australia, the US, and the UK each show unique tech dynamics.Document automation is on the rise across law firms and corporates.Flexible pricing models are key to meeting diverse client needs.Seamless integration with legacy systems is non-negotiable.Education and community fuel successful adoption of automation.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Legal Tech and Personal Journey02:36 Transition from Law to Legal Tech Sales04:51 Understanding Client Needs in Legal Tech07:11 The Role of Neurodiversity in Legal Tech09:28 Startup Challenges and Resilience in Sales11:37 Market Differences: Australia vs. US vs. UK14:08 Global Expansion and Client Base16:34 Document Automation and Pricing Models18:24 Integration and Training in Legal Tech20:32 Current Trends in Legal Tech and AI
