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20. Web3 social, gaming, and DevRel with Nader Dabit

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0:00 Intro

2:05 Tim’s background

7:13 Tim’s experience running all core dev calls at the EF

11:37 Ethereum implementations that are top of mind

14:23 The Ethereum roadmap

17:35 Spinning up a client in “stateless mode”

19:43 Setting priorities in all core dev calls

22:41 Blobs

31:08 How impactful is this protocol upgrade?

34:43 Protocol guild

41:02 Summer of Protocols

44:24 Spiciest Summer of Protocols take

53:14 Follow Tim

1 year ago

54 minutes 6 seconds

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Nader is the head of Developer Relations at Avara. On this episode, we discuss:

- decentralized social

- web3 gaming

- DevRel at Avara

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19. Early Ethereum days with Hudson Jameson

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0:00 Intro

4:00 Nader’s background

7:45 Avara

9:22 Lens

12:06 The fetaverse

12:36 Decentralized social

17:07 What can be on-chain and off-chain in decentralized social

18:15 How Lens works

21:10 Helping devs choose an infrastructure to build on

25:57 What does sufficient decentralization mean to you?

30:46 Decentralization and web3 gaming

33:55 The latency issue with web3 gaming

36:37 Intents

39:12 Data migration

40:57 Axie Infinity

43:09 The Avara acquisition of Family

45:54 Advice for devs entering web3

49:20 Nader’s GitHub

51:10 Follow Nader

51:29 Outro

1 year ago

51 minutes 57 seconds

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Hudson is a VP at Polygon Labs, he previously ran the Ethereum all devs calls at the EF.

EIP-1
Early days of Ethereum
Social consensus

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18. The evolution of Prysm with Preston Van Loon

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0:00 Intro

2:49 Hudson’s background

8:04 EIP 1

11:43 Learnings from running all core dev calls at EF

17:13 How all dev core dev calls have evolved over time

22:46 Looking to the future of Ethereum

30:25 Pros and cons of enshrining things to the protocol

35:17 Being VP of community at Polygon

40:24 How Ethereum has evolved over time

45:50 Follow Hudson!

46:12 Hudson’s cats and Outro

1 year ago

46 minutes 42 seconds

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Preston is an Ethereum Core Dev and co-founder at Prysm Labs.

Early “ETH 2.0” history and the shift to proof-of-stake
Pre-merge anxieties and how Prysm navigated the merge
What it’s like to build a consensus client

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17. A history of defi architectures with Alberto Cuesta Canada

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0:00 Intro

2:26 Preston’s journey

9:49 Prysm’s beginnings

13:01 The turning point for Prysm

15:16 Prysm V1

18:09 Ethereum speck history

27:05 Client Diversity

32:33 Post merge

37:36 Offchain Labs acquires Prysm

42:10 Preston’s learnings and advice

44:47 How devs can contribute to the space

47:24 Follow Preston

47:53 Outro

1 year ago

48 minutes 19 seconds

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Alberto is the co-founder and tech lead of Yield Protocol. In this episode, we talk:

The history of lending on Ethereum
How defi protocols have evolved

Check out Alberto's article: https://hackernoon.com/borrowing-on-ethereum-comparing-architecture-evolution-of-makerdao-yield-aave-compound-and-euler

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16. Building protocols for public good with Kevin Owocki and Zakk.eth

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0:00 Intro

3:05 Alberto’s background

7:39 DeFi lending lanscape from a high level

13:15 Over collateralization

14:29 DeFi’s target user

17:01 Introduction of the money market concept in 2018

19:32 Compound V2

26:42 Pooled liquidity on Aave V1

31:38 Single and multi collateral Dai

36:20 DeFi summer

39:40 Yield V2 and Aave V2

42:41 Collateral as a token

46:49 Follow Alberto

47:40 Outro

1 year ago

48 minutes 5 seconds

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Kevin and Zakk from Gitcoin join the show to discuss:

Gitcoin’s overarching mission
Designing protocols for public good
Modular protocol design
When code becomes governable

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15. Liquid staking + vampire attacks with Miguel Prada

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0:00 Intro

2:05 Kevin’s background

3:09 Zakk’s background

6:13 Under the hood of Allo

8:24 Learnings from building Allo

9:43 Difference between singleton and factory pattern

11:21 Benefits of using singleton pattern

15:04 Open contribution and Gitcoin’s evolution

19:18 Configuration vs. convention

22:28 The future of Allo

25:04 Allo’s structure for community contribution

28:22 When code becomes governable

34:11 Modularity within the Gitcoin ecosystem

37:30 Underrated tools

38:19 Zakk’s spicy takes

39:03 Kevin’s cooler takes

41:45 Follow Zakk, Kevin, Allo and Gitcoin

42:43 Outro

1 year ago

43 minutes 11 seconds

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Miguel is the tech lead at Diva and CEO at Shamir Labs (the organization building Diva). In this episode, we discuss:

Today’s staking landscape
Challenges with staking
Distributed Validator Technology (DVT)
Under the hood of Diva

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14. Demystifying Privy’s security model with Asta Li

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0:00 Intro

2:47 Miguel’s background

4:47 What problem in Diva solving?

6:51 Today’s liquid staking landscape

9:24 The dangers of increasing centralized staked eth

11:06 Distributed validator technology (DVT)

11:59 Diva

13:52 Cost to run a diva node

17:30 Specifics of how Diva works

25:07 Distributed key generation

26:35 Choosing a cryptographic standard

30:38 Side effects and benefits to working on Diva

32:53 Incentivizing operators

34:30 Diva tokens

35:30 Rebasing alternative

37:40 Closing thoughts

42:38 Follow Miguel and Diva

43:26 Outro

1 year ago

43 minutes 56 seconds

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Asta is the co-founder and CTO of Privy. In this episode, we discuss:

Embedded wallets
How privy works under the hood
Shamir secret sharing (and why Privy uses it)
Privy security threat models
Future of account abstraction

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13. Enshrining functionality into Ethereum with Chase Chapman and Kevin Weaver

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0:00 Intro

2:48 Privy overview

3:39 Asta’s Background

4:16 Embedded wallets

5:39 How Privy works

9:15 Privy as the bridge between web2 and web3

11:14 How key generation happens within Privy

16:41 Privy experience across devices

21:17 Different levels of security for different apps

23:51 friend.tech security

26:17 Attack concerns

28:52 Attacks on embedded wallets

32:50 Interoperability

38:56 The future of wallets

43:06 Building wallets vs. building autonomous vehicles

45:30 Follow Asta

45:50 Outro

2 years ago

46 minutes 17 seconds

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In this episode, Kevin and Chase dive into Vitalik’s article: Should Ethereum be okay with enshrining more things in the protocol?

We discuss:

Implementing account abstraction into Ethereum protocol
Why enshrinement helps reduce gas costs
Balancing flexibility and efficiency
Benefits of enshrinement
Where enshrinement backfires

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12. ZKPs and private vs. public data with Santiago Palladino

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0:00 Intro

1:44 Enshrinement at a high level

3:21 Protocol minimalism

4:48 Tradeoffs with introducing these standards at the protocol level

7:38 Why enshrinement is cost beneficial

10:31 Community response and responsibility

11:58 Hard forking

14:29 Benefits of enshrinement

17:57 When enshrinement could backfire

19:30 Closing Thoughts

22:03 Outro

Vitalik’s Blog Post: https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2023/09/30/enshrinement.html

2 years ago

22 minutes 37 seconds

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This episode is a re-run with Santiago Palladino, who is an engineer at Aztec Network. In this episode, we discuss:

ZKPs changing the public and private data paradigms
How developers should think about designing with ZKPs
War stories from Open Zeppelin

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(00:00) - Episode Highlight

(00:35) - Intro

(00:46) - What to expect from this episode

(01:28) - Meet Santiago Palladino from Aztec Network

(05:22) - Creating standards at Open Zeppelin

(09:12) - Upgradable contracts and standardization

(10:26) - Building Aztec

(14:54) - Paradigm shifts in zero knowledge proofs

(19:38) - Unconstrained development

(23:39) - UX of public and private transactions

(28:08) - Exciting use cases of zero knowledge proofs

(30:36) - Building an ecosystem to enable zero knowledge proofs

(34:33) - Trade-offs when building Noir

(36:13) - Learning curve for Noir

(38:25) - Future vision for zero knowledge

(42:20) - What data should be public vs private?

(46:45) - Start building ZKP applications

(50:31) - Development war stories

(56:01) - Connect with Santiago online

(56:33) - Ending

2 years ago

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11. Seaport, harberger taxes, and royalty enforcement with emo.eth

James (emo.eth) is a smart contract developer working on Seaport. On this episode we talk:

Overview of Seaport architecture
How zones unlock new types of dynamics
Turning Seaport testing suite into a CSP (and the future of testing for market-based systems)
Redeemables (EIP7498) and other burgeoning NFT standards
Future of royalty enforcement
Harberger taxes and potential for new types of revenue

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10. Strong types and dev tools with Tom Meager and Jake Moxey

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0:00 Intro

1:59 James’ background

3:31 Why Seaport

5:16 What is the architecture of Seaport

7:48 Sufficient decentralization

11:39 Protocol constraints and zones

17:41 NFT standards

19:05 Harberger taxes

21:17 Royalties

23:26 Orbs

25:17 Enforcing fees

28:48 The issue of testing

30:39 Constraint satisfaction Problems (CSPs)

34:11 Rust

36:51 Shipyard

38:54 The importance of developer experience in crypto

40:18 What experiments James would like to see

42:13 Underrated dev tools

43:32 Follow James

2 years ago

44 minutes 34 seconds

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Tom and Jake are maintainers of wagmi, viem, and rivet. On this episode we talk:

Type safety and the EVM
Why they built wagmi and viem
Optimizing for performance with viem
How the dev tooling ecosystem in Ethereum has evolved over time
Developer wallets and rivet

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9. Standardizing account abstraction with Richard Meissner

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0:00 Intro

2:12 Tom’s background

4:01 Jake’s background

5:38 How wagmi got started

9:18 Overview of wagmi

11:02 Benefits of wagmi

12:42 Overview of viem

18:03 Optimizing viem

19:24 RLP serialization

21:21 Strong typing in the Ethereum ecosystem

24:23 The drama with DHH

27:08 Rivet

32:17 Typescript and Rust

34:12 anviljs

36:11 Areas where web3 dev experience could be improved

39:05 Wagmi CLI

43:00 Shilling cool tools

47:46 Outro

2 years ago

48 minutes 8 seconds

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Richard Meissner is a co-founder of Safe. In this episode, we discuss:

Major EIPs related to account abstraction
Why fragmentation and vendor lock-in are massive challenges with AA
Creating a modular system for standardizing AA

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8. Building and testing decentralized social at Farcaster with Horsefacts.eth

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0:00 Intro

1:56 Welcome Richard

2:46 Richard’s background

5:21 How Safe has evolved

8:02 Overview of current standards and EIPs

15:53 Fragmentation, vendor lock in and security

21:47 Overview of Safe Protocol

27:44 Complexity of modules

35:03 Incentivizing the ecosystem

41:36 The future of cross chain account abstraction

45:47 How far along are we?

50:53 Tools that developers should check out

52:06 Follow Richard

52:43 Outro

2 years ago

53 minutes 37 seconds

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Horsefacts.eth is an independent smart contract engineer. In this episode, we discuss:

Deep dive into Farcaster’s architecture
Implementing “sufficient decentralization”
Leveraging standards vs. bespoke smart contract architecture
How smart contract devs should approach testing

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Certora - https://www.certora.com/

Halmos - https://github.com/a16z/halmos

Foundry - https://github.com/foundry-rs/foundry

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7. The future of onchain indexible data with Andrew Hong

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0:00 Intro

1:39 Welcome Horsefacts

2:09 Horsefacts’ background

8:33 Smart contract design in DeFi compared to consumer applications

12:11 Intro to Farcaster

13:06 Farcaster Hubs

13:53 Sufficient decentralization on Farcaster

16:13 When to use standards

20:10 FIDs

22:40 Comparing Farcaster with other web3 social apps

24:00 EdDSA vs. ECDSA

25:13 Migrating data to new contracts on Farcaster

28:12 Tradeoffs between L1s and L2s

29:33 Testing on an L2 vs. an L1

30:57 Benefits of working in the EVM

33:37 Approaches to testing

38:20 Formal verification

39:49 Tools worth checking out

41:45 Follow Horsefacts

42:33 Outro

2 years ago

43 minutes 9 seconds

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Andrew is currently building at Dune. In this episode, we discuss:

Dune’s architecture
How new data types will change indexible onchain data
Learnings from building for consumers at Mirror
Why standards matter (and why they’re often ignored by teams)

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