Join Kartik Sathappan and Jack Dwyer as they sit down with Chris Samra, co-founder of Waves, the viral camera glasses built for creators. We explore how Waves went from a Black Mirror-inspired idea to a launch video with 30M+ views, the privacy debate, and why Chris wants Waves to be more like Ray-Ban than “smart glasses.”
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Join us on this inspiring episode of Out of Office, where Kartik Sathappan and Jack Dwyer sit down with Clayton Mooney, founder of Clayton Farms, to explore the future of healthy fast food and the fight against the lifespan crisis caused by America’s eating habits.
Clayton shares his unlikely journey—from growing up on an Iowa farm, to a career in professional poker, to building indoor farms that now power a profitable restaurant model. His mission? To give back millions of years of life to humanity by changing the way we eat, one healthy fast food meal at a time.
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06:02 Tackling Food Waste with Kinosol
08:46 Building Clayton Farms: Indoor Farming Innovations
11:26 From Delivery Service to Restaurant Model
19:53 Competing with Sweetgreen & Scaling Healthy Fast Food
30:49 Health, Entrepreneurship & Building a Mission-Driven Brand
44:33 Fundraising, Transparency, and Open Sourcing the Farm
59:21 The Future of Nutrition & Adding 70 Million Years of Life
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Kartik Sathappan and Jack Dwyer sit down with Sarv, founder of Origami Computing — a playful “sidekick computer” aiming to make our relationship with tech healthier. We cover the journey from scrappy, screenless prototypes to a colorful device that feels human, why phones exhaust us, and what it really takes to learn hardware, raise a round, and build something people love.
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In this inspiring episode of Out of Office, Kartik Sathappan and Jack Dwyer sit down with Alex Mathew, a high school student at the experimental Alpha School and the teenage founder of Berry, an AI-powered stuffed animal that teens can talk to for mental health support.
Alex shares how his own struggles with therapy and school stress led him to build Berry, why he believes AI will replace traditional therapy, and how a cuddly plushie could help millions of young people reflect and build self-awareness. We dive into the science behind “transitional objects,” what’s wrong with online therapy, and why he’s designing Berry to push back instead of just validate.
We also explore Alpha School’s radical education model: three hours of AI-powered academics, no teachers, and afternoons spent launching real-world ventures. Alex explains how he balances building a startup with being a student and how Alpha helps teens find their passion and develop it to Olympic-level standards.
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Join us on this special episode of Out of Office brought to you by Families Fund, where Kartik Sathappan and Jack Dwyer sit down with Karen Kirchner — a California elementary school teacher — to break down what’s really happening inside public schools today.
Karen shares how COVID, politics, and outdated literacy methods have collided to leave kids behind — and what it will take to turn things around. We explore why teachers get so little respect, how the “science of reading” can transform classrooms, and what parents should look for when evaluating their children’s education. From the rise of AI tutors to the false promise of endless tech in the classroom, this conversation cuts through the noise to spotlight what strong schools actually do right.
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21:25 Science of Reading vs. Balanced Literacy + Teacher Training
29:55 Multi-Sensory Learning, Parent Roles, and Cultural Attitudes
38:19 Education Policy, Teacher Quality, and Curriculum Gaps
45:05 Classroom Management, Tech Hype, and AI Tutors
53:44 Alternative Models, Community, and What Traditional Schools Get Right
Episode 17 – Can a Robot Fold Your Laundry? Evan Wineland on Building Weave Robotics
On this episode of Out of Office, hosts Kartik Sathappan and Jack Dwyer welcomeEvan Wineland, co-founder of Weave Robotics. Evan unveils Isaac—a telescoping,wheeled home robot that folds laundry, tidies rooms, and even taps human tele-operatorswhen autonomy needs a boost. We explore why wheels beat legs (for now), how onboardcompute keeps your data private, what Evan learned while shipping Apple Intelligence,and why your own robo-housekeeper could arrive as early as late 2025.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction & Isaac highlight reel
02:45 First impressions: Roomba ≠ Isaac
06:45 What Isaac is and isn’t
13:40 Wheels > legs: safety & reliability
19:40 Why start with laundry-folding & tidying
23:40 Mapping, memory & onboarding your home
32:00 Tele-operation, trust & guardrails
39:30 Pricing, early adopters & parents vs. entropy
49:10 From Apple Intelligence to home robots
57:00 YC, quadrupeds & pivoting to Isaac
1:03:00 Shipping timeline & Weave is hiring!
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In this episode of Out of Office, Kartik Sathappan and Jack Dwyer sit down with Brandon Aversano, founder of Alloy, the online platform making it safe, simple, and transparent to sell gold and precious metals.
Brandon shares the wild origin story of Alloy—starting with a cancer diagnosis, medical debt, and a humiliating pawn shop experience. He explains how Alloy offers 80%+ payouts (versus 20–30% industry standard), the challenges of building trust in a scammy industry, and why customer empathy is his biggest weapon. We also discuss the future of jewelry resale, how Brandon bootstrapped his way from a failed app to state-backed funding, and what most people don’t understand about the value of their gold.
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Join us for an imaginative and deeply thoughtful episode of Out of Office as Kartik Sathappan and Jack Dwyer sit down with Daniel Kuntz — founder of Creature Co. and the mind behind The Little Guy, a wearable digital pet that blends nostalgic design, emotional tech, and low-level engineering into a new kind of companion.
Daniel walks us through how a viral demo turned into a funded startup, how Fred Again ended up using his music plugin, and why he's rejecting the software subscription model in favor of playful, expressive hardware. We also dive into his artistic inspirations (like vintage Sony gadgets and absurd watches), the philosophy of meaningful design, and whether generative AI can ever create something with soul.
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Join us for this eye-opening episode of Out of Office, where we sit down with Andrew Song, co-founder of Make Sunsets, to discuss a radical approach to climate change: solar geoengineering. Andrew explains how releasing reflective aerosols into the stratosphere—something volcanoes do naturally—may help cool the planet, buying time for other sustainability efforts to catch up. We also dive into regulatory roadblocks, the role of public perception, and what it’s like to scale a startup focused on reversing global warming.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Make Sunsets
03:23 The Science Behind Solar Geoengineering
06:46 Comparing Solutions: Stratospheric Aerosol Injection vs. Carbon Capture
10:26 Market Landscape and Competition
13:56 Customer Demographics and Engagement
17:17 Funding and Business Model
21:00 Regulatory Landscape and Challenges
24:21 Public Perception and Education
28:10 Operational Mechanics of Balloon Deployments
31:30 Future Outlook and Mission-driven Goals
34:48 Navigating Financial Sustainability
37:22 Evaluating Climate Solutions
39:13 The Reality of Recycling
41:46 Innovating for a Sustainable Future
45:16 Personal Journey to Climate Action
48:51 Future Aspirations and Opportunities
54:24 Building a Climate-Conscious Community
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Join us on this insightful episode of Out of Office, where Kartik Sathappan and Jack Dwyer sit down with Hirbod Bigvand, founder of Cassius, a unique dating wellness app designed to help men gain confidence, master communication, and build meaningful relationships through personalized coaching.
Hirbod shares how seeing his friends struggle on dating apps inspired him to bridge the gap between dating coaches and men searching for authentic connections. They discuss why traditional dating apps like Tinder and Bumble often fall short, the power and challenges of "cold approaching," and why San Francisco can be an especially challenging city for dating. Hirbod also reveals how Cassius leverages both tech and personalized coaching to transform men's dating experiences.
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Chapters:Andrew shares how his personal experience—going from being called "Patches" to launching HairDAO—sparked a decentralized science (DeSci) revolution aimed at solving hair loss through community-driven research and blockchain technology. They unpack the unique ways HairDAO operates, how Discord became an essential tool for decentralized collaboration, and the groundbreaking development of innovative treatments like Anagen.
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In this episode, Kartik Sathappan and Jack Dwyer chat with Ben Somers, the brilliant mind behind Recess—a platform that’s basically a "civilization for kids," empowering homeschoolers with real-world tools and mind-blowing experiences.
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00:00 Building a Civilization for Kids
08:53 The Journey to Education Innovation
13:23 Recess: A New Educational Paradigm
21:24 Monetizing Education: The Recess Model
24:07 Navigating Homeschooling Challenges
31:36 The Future of Education and Policy Impact
35:03 Challenges to Educational Freedom
37:41 Education in San Francisco: Diverse Views
39:28 The Cost and Ideology of Education
41:20 Scaling Teaching and Technology
45:58 Personalized Learning and Standards
48:27 The Evolution of Recess
56:51 From Play to Purpose
01:05:42 The Vision for Recess and Beyond
In this episode, Kartik Sathappan chats with Elias Almqvist, the innovative mind behind Exa Laboratories. From his roots as a self-taught tech enthusiast to leading a startup focused on energy-efficient AI chips, Elias shares his journey and vision. Discover why Exa uses PGP for authentic communication, how polymorphic computing could transform chip design, and the surprising role video games played in sparking his creativity.
The conversation also tackles the challenges of jumping from academia to startup life, the future of AI hardware, and the ethical questions shaping the industry. Plus, get insights into how collaboration and risk-taking fuel innovation at Exa. Ready for a dose of tech inspiration? Hit play!
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00:00 Introduction: Exa Laboratories
04:43 Elias’s Journey and Cultural Insights
10:33 From Passion to Hardware Innovation
14:56 Revolutionizing AI with XPUs
23:13 Polymorphic Computing and Prototyping
28:17 Design Trade-offs and Scaling
32:48 Market Landscape and Open Source
36:21 Future of AI: Implications and Ethics
44:21 Advanced Hardware: FPGAs to Space
51:20 YC Experience and Personal Reflections
01:00:56 The Future of Self-Taught Learning
What If Your Notes App Could Talk Back? Kasra on building Lightpage
We discuss Airtable OG days, a notes app that’s your shrink and co-founder, midlife crises staring down AGI, and more—enjoy!
Chapters00:00 Pop-Up Villages to Lightpage Dreams
03:22 What’s Lightpage? Journal Meets AI Shrink
08:50 Crafting a Consumer Hit: From Chaos to Polish
13:56 Users Shape the Beast: Feedback & Future Vibes
20:18 AI as Your Chef and Cash Flow: Culinary to Cash
23:41 Memory, LLMs, and Code: AI’s Tech Soul
30:43 Ethics & Engineers: AI’s Code Conundrums
34:23 Your AI Guide: Companion or Overlord?
45:21 Art, Quotes, and Midlife: Human Soul vs. AGI
53:41 Brain Games & Big Questions: Creative Escape
01:02:49 Lightpage’s Endgame: Curiosity Fuels the Future
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Presh Dineshkumar, founder of The Wellness Company, shares his journey of dropping out of college to work with Jason Calacanis and eventually starting his own company. He discusses his experiences with building multiple apps, including Go Polar, Sunseek, and Posture AI, and how he uses social media to promote them. Presh also talks about the importance of sleep, nutrition, and wellness, and how he uses various tools and gadgets to optimize his health. Tune in to learn more about Presh's entrepreneurial journey and his approach to building a successful wellness company.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Presh Dineshkumar
03:04 Journey into Tech, Startups & Transition to Founder
08:34 Lessons from Jason Calacanis & Founder Updates
13:52 Changing Perspectives in Venture Capital & Content Creation
19:17 Building a Wellness Company & Finding Traction
27:13 The Evolution of Ideas & Drive to Create
31:57 Product Development, Inspiration & the Studio Model
38:37 Distribution Strategies & Growth Experiments
51:04 Educating Users on Health & Wellness Protocols
01:03:21 Exploring Wellness: Light, Fasting & Posture AI
01:20:54 Innovative Wellness Tech: Hair Restoration & Air Quality
01:31:40 Genetic Testing & Advice for Aspiring Founders
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seventh ep of OUT OF OFFICE out now
We discuss feeding your family with memes, ghost writing, running an agency, goonmaps, and more — enjoy!
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Introduction: 00:01
How Jason built Memelord.tech and became the internet's meme lord: 00:12
From ghostwriting to building a meme empire: 00:28
Why AI can't replace unhinged human creativity (yet): 03:55
Inside MemeMore's tech stack and Grok integration: 05:28
The strategic acquisition of GoonMaps and building the meme lord mafia: 09:42
Growing from solo founder to managing a team of seven: 22:49
Finding product-market fit when it just feels natural: 29:41
Balancing marriage and meme entrepreneurship: 30:47
Silicon Valley meets Jackass: Jason's upcoming show: 32:47
Advice for young creators: Just start building distribution: 34:30
Why you don't need to follow Silicon Valley trends to succeed: 37:06
sixth ep of OUT OF OFFICE out now
with Erik Dunteman, CEO of Pig, we discuss browsers for agents, opportunity cost, 𝔣𝔬𝔲𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔯 𝔟𝔲𝔯𝔫𝔬𝔲𝔱, picking your wife, fancy cheese, and more — enjoy!
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Pig.dev and Its Purpose
03:18 Differentiating Pig.dev from Competitors
06:07 The Journey to Found Pig.dev
09:12 Use Cases and Applications of Pig.dev
11:38 Navigating Legal and Ethical Considerations
14:14 The Future of AI and Automation
16:57 Solo Founding: Challenges and Insights
19:45 Burnout and Mental Health in Entrepreneurship
22:30 Leveraging AI Tools in Development
23:32 AI in Code Generation and Learning
27:03 The Balance of AI and Fundamental Skills
30:16 Writing, Learning, and the Role of AI
31:55 The Importance of Thinking in the Age of AI
36:37 Public Speaking and Authenticity
39:04 Erik's Journey as a Founder
46:20 Navigating Identity After Failure
49:02 Rediscovering Passions and Personal Growth
50:33 The Joy of Entrepreneurship and Mindset Shift
51:43 The Reality of Startup Risks and Safety Nets
54:14 The Burden of Forced Ideas and Burnout
56:42 Young Founders and the Pressure of Success
01:03:25 The Impact of Relationships on Entrepreneurial Drive
01:10:12 Building Trust in Relationships
01:11:48 The Importance of Time with Family
01:12:49 Finding Compatibility Beyond Checklists
01:14:07 Being Yourself in Relationships
01:15:25 Rapid Fire: Business Insights
01:18:26 Personal Goals and Resolutions
01:19:52 The Balance of Exercise and Mental Health
01:22:26 Navigating Remote Work Dynamics
01:24:10 Final Thoughts and Audience Engagement
fifth ep of OUT OF OFFICE nownew format for the show:
interview people building cool shit in sf (mostly) + a relevant current event.
with Drew Winget, CTO of Daylight, we discuss healthy computing, sunbros, the TikTok "ban", Apple under the new admin, and more — enjoy!
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Hack your Daylight Tablet
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John Markoff, What the Dormouse Said
https://www.amazon.com/What-Dormouse-Said-Counterculture-Personal/dp/0143036769
Bret Victor, Dynamicland
https://dynamicland.org/
Gerald Sussman, Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
https://web.mit.edu/6.001/6.037/sicp.pdf
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Daylight and Its Vision
02:36 The Motivation Behind Daylight's Creation
05:12 Building a New Ecosystem: Hardware and Software Integration
07:54 Challenges of Hardware Startups
10:10 User Experience and Feedback Loops
12:59 Creating a Third Timeline: A New Operating System
15:22 User-Centric Design and Community Involvement
17:41 Navigating Existing Timelines and User Behavior
20:26 The Future of Daylight and Its OS
23:09 The TikTok Debate: National Security vs. User Well-being
34:28 The Impact of Social Media on Youth
37:26 The Debate on TikTok and National Security
40:36 The Future of Technology and Innovation
45:57 The Role of Apple in the Tech Landscape
01:01:24 Health and Lifestyle Choices in Tech
01:03:53 Advice for Aspiring Hardware Entrepreneurs
fourth ep of OUT OF OFFICE out now we discuss resolutions, crypto, immigration, the BRUV party, vail, ads in chatbots, YC, and more — enjoy!
Chapters
00:00 New Year Reflections and Resolutions
06:02 City Governance and Community Safety
15:00 Immigration and Crime: A Global Perspective
21:57 The Hard Path: Consequences of Inaction
28:11 Ski Resort Strikes and Economic Implications
41:10 Personal Experiences with AI and Search Engines
48:53 Insights on Y Combinator's Evolution
55:29 The Value of Incubators and Accelerators
01:00:34 Navigating the Seed Funding Landscape
third ep of OUT OF OFFICE now we discuss the the $ZERO crypto scam(?), Bob Dylan, rating systems, H1B visas, entitlement, and liberal bias in art + dating — enjoy! Originally aired Dec 31, 2024
