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Never Too Far Gone
Heather Cetrangolo
35 episodes
3 weeks ago
Heather Cetrangolo is the creator of Systemic Renewal, a methodology for rebuilding broken systems. Never Too Far Gone is her weekly podcast about the practice of Systemic Renewal and the research behind it. Having spent twenty years developing this kind of leadership in legal practice, community development, education and as an Anglican priest, Heather has now designed an evidence-based approach to rebuilding broken systems, whether in corporate, NFP or government sectors. The podcast is designed to provide a weekly guided reflection for leaders of change to be inspired and intentional in their practice.
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Heather Cetrangolo is the creator of Systemic Renewal, a methodology for rebuilding broken systems. Never Too Far Gone is her weekly podcast about the practice of Systemic Renewal and the research behind it. Having spent twenty years developing this kind of leadership in legal practice, community development, education and as an Anglican priest, Heather has now designed an evidence-based approach to rebuilding broken systems, whether in corporate, NFP or government sectors. The podcast is designed to provide a weekly guided reflection for leaders of change to be inspired and intentional in their practice.
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Episodes (20/35)
Never Too Far Gone
Who Could Ever Learn to Love a Beast?
In this episode Heather explains what a 'Renewalist' is and why it is a different style of leadership to two more readily recognised categories, being management and advocacy. Heather explains from the example of Beauty and the Beast, how Renewalists are people who humanise systems by stepping into them fully. The episode ends with a time for reflection about whether you are "all in" to lead the community you stand within, or whether you feel one-toe-out.
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3 weeks ago
11 minutes

Never Too Far Gone
Planning for the Unplanned
In this quick Learning Byte, Heather shares about the importance of planning for the unplanned, or making space for what John Paul Lederach describes as "Serendipity." Heather shares an example of serendipitous discoveries that have been taking place for her at Holy Trinity in Port Melbourne. This episode finishes with an exercise in observing the unplanned experiences and opportunities that may be nudging you in an unexpected direction.  
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3 weeks ago
9 minutes

Never Too Far Gone
How to Remember That You Are More Powerful Than You Think You Are
Every great leader experiences small, medium and big setbacks along the way. Knowing how to weather and metabolise these experiences can make the difference between going the distance, and not. This is the fourth of a series that draws from John Paul Lederach's book, The Moral Imagination (2005) in which he describes the place of patience, place, time and serendipity in the practice of peacebuilding. This episode shares three exercises for practicing Stillness by observing the place of the past, present and future at each juncture of our story.
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3 weeks ago
7 minutes

Never Too Far Gone
Stillness as Place
This is the third of a six-part series called Stillness, a practical guide to creating pause in the midst of conflict. 'Stillness' is not a meditation or spiritual practice, but the art of suspending judgement to observe what is happening in a conflict, be it an inner-conflict, intergroup or intragroup storming. This series draws from John Paul Lederach's book, The Moral Imagination (2005) in which he describes the place of patience, place, time and serendipity in the practice of peacebuilding. This episode shares two exercises for practicing Stillness by observing place. These are designed to help us notice clues about the best levers for change in our environment.
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10 months ago
25 minutes 55 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Patience in the Startup Phase
This is the second of a six-part series called Stillness, a practical guide to creating pause in the midst of conflict. 'Stillness' is not a meditation or spiritual practice, but the art of suspending judgement to observe what is happening in a conflict, be it an inner-conflict, intergroup or intragroup storming. This series draws from John Paul Lederach's book, The Moral Imagination (2005) in which he describes the place of patience, place, time and serendipity in the practice of peacebuilding. This episode shares three types of patience involved in the startup phase of building new ideas, initiatives or organisations, which are:   Patience with the 'yes' people; Patience with the 'no' people; and Patience with the 'yes but not yet' people.  
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1 year ago
35 minutes 15 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Three Eyes of Three Storms
This is the first of a six-part series called Stillness, a practical guide to creating pause in the midst of conflict. 'Stillness' is not a meditation or spiritual practice, but the art of suspending judgement to observe what is happening in a conflict, be it an inner-conflict, intergroup or intragroup storming. This series draws from John Paul Lederach's book, The Moral Imagination (2005) in which he describes the place of patience, place, time and serendipity in the practice of peacebuilding. This episode introduces the concept of Stillness with three stories from Heather's recent experience of lobbying in Parliament. 
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1 year ago
34 minutes 16 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Discerning Your Career Path, with Carl Stauffer
This is the final episode of an eight-part series called Policy Matters, journeying into how to be a successful policy entrepreneur, based on Michael Sheldrick's From Ideas to Impact. This episode explores how to discern your career journey, featuring Carl Stauffer, Senior Expert in Reconciliation at the United States Institute for Peace. Carl looks back over his 30 years of experience as a strategic leader in peace, justice and reconciliation initiatives and reflects on how he came to understand his vocation and discern his 'next steps' at each juncture. This episode frames our career journey in three areas:- 'The Stirring' or times when we feel restless in our current role;  'The Closed Door' which is about how to manage when opportunities we thought would open up to us suddenly do not; and 'The Title' which is about the various ways that people and life experiences communicate to us who we are and what unique gift we bring to the world.
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1 year ago
32 minutes 32 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
When the War is Over (and When It's Not), with Carl Stauffer
This is the seventh of an eight-part series called Policy Matters, journeying into how to be a successful policy entrepreneur, based on Michael Sheldrick's From Ideas to Impact. The final two episodes of this series take a slightly different turn, as we meet with Carl Stauffer, Senior Expert in Reconciliation at the United States Institute for Peace. Carl is a strategic leader with over 30 years experience in peace, justice and reconciliation initiatives, including 16 years on the ground in South Africa. He has conducted training and consultation in 37 countries and 6 continents and comes with 11 years experience as Associate Professor of Justice and Peacebuilding at the Eastern Mennonite University. In this episode, Carl shares how he has witnessed radical attempts to cross dividing lines in our world today, referencing: The building of a parallel democratic process in Myanmar; The Comprehensive Agreement signed between the United States and Vietnam in 2023; and  A legislated framework for transitional justice in Colombia.
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1 year ago
45 minutes 18 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Keeping the Agenda on the Table
This is the sixth of an eight-part series called Policy Matters, based on Michael Sheldrick's newly released book From Ideas to Impact: A Playbook for Influencing and Implementing Change in a Divided World. Michael Sheldrick is the Co-Founder of Global Citizen and has worked with a range of stakeholders to distribute over $40 billion worldwide in the past decade to end extreme poverty. In this episode, Heather explores the third of three phases of policy entrepreneurship, which is what Michael calls 'Implementation.' Once you have a policy change on the table and you've managed to get the right people to that table, how do you make sure it doesn't fall off the agenda?
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1 year ago
37 minutes 9 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Turn Up With Solutions, with Michael Sheldrick
This is the fifth of an eight-part series called Policy Matters, based on Michael Sheldrick's newly released book From Ideas to Impact: A Playbook for Influencing and Implementing Change in a Divided World. Michael Sheldrick is the Co-Founder of Global Citizen and has worked with a range of stakeholders to distribute over $40 billion around the world in the past decade to end extreme poverty. In this episode, Heather interviews Michael as he shares three tips for how to make the most out of a ten-minute pitch to a busy person. 
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1 year ago
29 minutes 49 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Focus on the Ten That Say Yes Not the Ninety That Say No, with Michael Sheldrick
This is the fourth of an eight-part series called Policy Matters, based on Michael Sheldrick's newly released book From Ideas to Impact: A Playbook for Influencing and Implementing Change in a Divided World. Michael Sheldrick is the Co-Founder of Global Citizen and has worked with a range of stakeholders to distribute over $40 billion around the world in the past decade to end extreme poverty. In this episode, Heather interviews Michael, as he shares about the people in his life who influenced him to try against the odds, to not run away from hard things, and the big "yes" from a high school teacher that changed the direction of his life. 
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1 year ago
29 minutes 30 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Working with Corrupt Systems and Corrupt People
This is the third of an eight-part series called Policy Matters, based on Michael Sheldrick's newly released book From Ideas to Impact: A Playbook for Influencing and Implementing Change in a Divided World. Michael Sheldrick is the Co-Founder of Global Citizen and has worked with a range of stakeholders to distribute over $40 billion around the world in the past decade to end extreme poverty. In this episode, Heather sets out two safeguards when partnering with imperfect institutions and people:    1. Never assume you know everything; 2. Commit but don't get married.    This episode includes a practical exercise for discerning strategic partnerships for policy entrepreneurship. 
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1 year ago
32 minutes 9 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Six Enemies to Vision and How to Smash Them
This is the second of an eight-part series called Policy Matters, based on Michael Sheldrick's newly released book From Ideas to Impact: A Playbook for Influencing and Implementing Change in a Divided World. Michael Sheldrick is the Co-Founder of Global Citizen and has worked with a range of stakeholders to distribute over $40 billion around the world in the past decade to end extreme poverty. In this episode, Heather exposes six enemies to vision: overwhelm, playing shy, polarisation, short-termism, judgement and depersonalisation. She reveals the weapons she has used to overcome these 'enemies' and why love wins every time. 
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1 year ago
32 minutes 32 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Is Policy the Best Lever for Change?
This is the first of an eight-part series called Policy Matters, based on Michael Sheldrick's newly released book From Ideas to Impact: A Playbook for Influencing and Implementing Change in a Divided World. Michael Sheldrick is the Co-Founder of Global Citizen and has worked with a range of stakeholders to distribute over $40 billion around the world in the past decade to end extreme poverty. In this episode, Heather shares her own mindset shift towards elevating the importance of policy in effecting social change, away from preferencing grassroots activities. Whilst she argues that "policy entrepreneurship" has an indispensable place in effecting tangible change, she queries, is it the MOST important lever?
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1 year ago
31 minutes 48 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
A Vision of a Thousand Lights by Heather Cetrangolo
This is a time capsule, where Heather shares her 'vision of victory' for Systemic Renewal, as it came to her on an ordinary day, in her study.
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1 year ago
6 minutes 22 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Prepare for Victory, with Brooklyn White
This is the final of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. Change is something that happens as an external event or situation, whereas 'transition' is an inner, psychological process that people go through as they internalise and come to terms with change. This episode is with regular guest, Brooklyn White, Founder of Renewing Hope Agency, Canada. Heather and Brooklyn explore the art of describing a clear ‘vision of victory’ when leading a new beginning. This episode provides a guided reflection on three aspects to successfully stepping into a new beginning, inspired by William Bridges. These are:   Just do it. Let it be incremental. Picture it.
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1 year ago
38 minutes 36 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Ambition Without Naivety, with Brooklyn White
This is the seventh of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. Change is something that happens as an external event or situation, whereas 'transition' is an inner, psychological process that people go through as they internalise and come to terms with change. This episode is with regular guest, Brooklyn White, Founder of Renewing Hope Agency, Canada. Heather and Brooklyn explore the balance between being ambitious for change without being naive about the pace. This episode provides a guided reflection on three aspects to successfully stepping into a new beginning, inspired by William Bridges. These are:   Just do it. Let it be incremental. Picture it.
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1 year ago
35 minutes 6 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Transitions in Long-Term Relationships
This is the sixth of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. Change is something that happens as an external event or situation, whereas 'transition' is an inner, psychological process that people go through as they internalise and come to terms with change. Based on William Bridges' groundbreaking work in Transitions: Making Sense of Life's Changes, this series unpacks the practical implications of his three-part Transition Model. This episode provides strategies for knowing when our long-term relationships are in a transition period and how to move through it well. Why? Because the bottom line is, leaders of large scale social change will unavoidably go through transitions in their core relationships.  
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1 year ago
40 minutes 3 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Transitioning Leadership: Who Leads and How with Ignacio Packer
This is the fifth of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. Change is something that happens as an external event or situation, whereas 'transition' is an inner, psychological process that people go through as they internalise and come to terms with change. This episode is with special guest, Ignacio Packer, Executive Director of Initiatives of Change, Caux Foundation. The conversation traverses three transitions occurring for global leadership today. First, a transition away from cynical or naively optimisitic leadership, towards a grounded, proactive choice to be hopeful. Secondly, a transition away from directive management styles to choosing vulnerability. Thirdly, a transition away from blind acceptance of white, male privilege, towards conscious decisions to choose diversity in leadership representation. 
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1 year ago
31 minutes 37 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Life Transitions for Organisations
This is the fourth of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. Change is something that happens as an external event or situation, whereas 'transition' is an inner, psychological process that people go through as they internalise and come to terms with change. Based on William Bridges' groundbreaking work in Transitions: Making Sense of Life's Changes, this series unpacks the practical implications of his three-part Transition Model. This episode provides practical exercises for identifying the life stage of an organisation or sector, and the developmental needs to be met for healthy transition.  
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1 year ago
35 minutes 59 seconds

Never Too Far Gone
Heather Cetrangolo is the creator of Systemic Renewal, a methodology for rebuilding broken systems. Never Too Far Gone is her weekly podcast about the practice of Systemic Renewal and the research behind it. Having spent twenty years developing this kind of leadership in legal practice, community development, education and as an Anglican priest, Heather has now designed an evidence-based approach to rebuilding broken systems, whether in corporate, NFP or government sectors. The podcast is designed to provide a weekly guided reflection for leaders of change to be inspired and intentional in their practice.