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More Than A Test
Jennie Tookoian
80 episodes
1 month ago
Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology. Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears. Hosted by Laura Glaab, VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management. She thinks everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems. More Than a Test is brought to you by Amira Learning. ---- About More Than a Test Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology. Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ ---- About Amira Learning Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency. About your Host, Laura Glaab Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management. She thinks everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems. Connect with Laura LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ ---- Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning ---- Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD
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Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology. Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears. Hosted by Laura Glaab, VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management. She thinks everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems. More Than a Test is brought to you by Amira Learning. ---- About More Than a Test Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology. Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ ---- About Amira Learning Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency. About your Host, Laura Glaab Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management. She thinks everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems. Connect with Laura LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ ---- Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning ---- Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD
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More Than A Test
Fostering Belonging and Inclusion at Alamo Heights with Dr. Dana Bashara


In this episode, host Jennie Tookoian engages in a rich conversation with Dr. Dana Bashara, the superintendent of the Alamo Heights Independent School District in Central San Antonio. Dr. Bashara embodies the belief that education is a heartfelt mission beyond just a career path, infusing her leadership with purpose and personal engagement.

Alamo Heights stands out for its historical roots dating back to 1909 and its strong sense of community, serving 4,800 students across five campuses within a unique, landlocked nine square miles. Dr. Bashara, who has dedicated nearly three decades to the district, shines a light on the district's emphasis on belonging, diversity, and academic excellence, harmoniously balanced with innovative programs like early literacy, a local community-based accountability system, and creative instructional methods from classroom carpet circles to rocketry projects.


Join us as Dr. Bashara shares her experiences and insights into how the district integrates character education, cultural diversity, and community values into a robust educational framework. From supporting teachers with autonomy in their classrooms to engaging students in profound learning experiences, she highlights the importance of listening tours and stay interviews in fostering an inclusive and supportive environment. Learn about her passionate leadership journey, the influence of mentors, and her relentless pursuit of excellence in shaping a future where education is truly more than a test.


Key Moments

04:53 Alma Heights Staff Student Benefit

06:23 Unexpected Passion for Elm Heights Education


11:21 Community-Driven Educational Decisions


12:53 "Small Community, Big Initiatives"

17:52 Classroom Transformation: Engaging Learning Environments

19:34 Innovative Entrepreneurial and Bilingual Education

25:43 Balancing Leadership and Motherhood

28:01 Gender Differences in Job Applications


32:06 "Championing the Teaching Profession"

35:55 Empowered Teachers, Diverse Classrooms


39:35 Legacy of Passionate Hiring

41:18 Future Reflections on District Impact

43:41 Alamo Heights: Strong Teacher Retention

47:09 "Heartfelt Leadership Conversation"


Connect with Dr. Dana Bashara

Website: https://www.ahisd.net/


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6 months ago
48 minutes

More Than A Test
Redefining Education: Doctor Micah Studer's Vision for Charter Schools

Welcome to another episode of "More Than a Test." In this episode, we're excited to have Dr. Micah Studer, executive director of Visions in Education Charter School, share insights into how the school is transforming the educational landscape in California. Visions, an online and homeschool program, serves a wide and diverse student body, focusing on personalized learning and community engagement. Dr. Studer discusses the school's innovative strategies that prioritize strong relationships between teachers, students, and families, creating a supportive and inclusive environment. With stories of student resilience and tailored educational approaches, Dr. Studer illustrates how Visions is preparing students for success in a rapidly evolving world. Join us to learn more about this unique educational model and its impact on student achievement.

Key Moments

04:41 Visions' Pathway to Graduation Success


09:58 "Community and Success in Entrepreneurship"


12:52 Homeschool Community's Diverse Growth


13:55 "Parental Engagement in Homeschooling"


18:50 Teacher Satisfaction Boost from Changes


22:15 LCAP Leadership and Career Growth


24:36 Education's Role as the Great Equalizer


29:38 Ensuring Student Engagement and Support


33:08 "Connectivity's Crucial Last Mile"


35:00 "Launchpad: Streamlined School Tech Access"


38:14 "Academic Progress in Challenging Areas"


42:38 Leveraging Data for Innovation


45:23 LitRPG Book Unites Siblings


48:27 The Importance of Small Talk


50:03 "Importance of Communication in Relationships"


Connect with Dr. Micah Studer

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/micahstuder/

Website: https://www.viedu.org/


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7 months ago
52 minutes

More Than A Test
Exploring Galveston ISD's Unique Initiatives with Superintendent Matthew Neighbors


In this episode of "More Than a Test," host Jennie Tookoian sits down with Dr. Matthew Neighbors, the superintendent of Galveston Independent School District (GISD). With nearly two decades of experience in the district, Dr. Neighbors shares his personal journey, discussing the unique qualities of the Galveston community and the exciting educational initiatives under his leadership. The conversation delves into how GISD is embracing AI-powered learning tools, expanding academic opportunities, and addressing teacher retention challenges. Dr. Neighbors highlights the district's commitment to empowering students and fostering a culture of trust and resilience among educators. Tune in to discover how GISD is navigating the evolving landscape of public education in Texas and the innovative programs that make it stand out.

Key Moments

  • 04:28 Free College and Job Opportunities
  • 08:18 Galveston's Resilient Historical Legacy
  • 12:29 "Building Trust with Principals"
  • 15:50 Midyear Student Feedback Survey Initiative
  • 16:39 Valuing Community and Maximizing Resources
  • 19:42 Galveston Teacher Incentive Program
  • 23:50 Inspiring Journey of a GISD Teacher
  • 28:19 AI Integration in Education Testing
  • 29:22 Effective Feedback Boosts Student Growth
  • 34:08 Integrated Student Support Database Pilot
  • 37:15 Survey Customization Feedback
  • 39:19 "Advancing Student Reading Levels"
  • 44:00 From Below Average to Top Graduate
  • 46:50 Eager for Solar Window Film
  • 50:09 Island's Recovery and Welcoming spirit

Connect with Dr. Matthew Neighbors

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-neighbors-edd-39014b31/

Website: https://www.gisd.org/

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7 months ago
51 minutes

More Than A Test
The Evolution and Impact of Career Tech Education at Springfield Clark CTC

In this episode of More Than a Test, host Jennie Tookoian welcomes Michelle Patrick, the superintendent of Springfield Clark Career Technology Center in Ohio, to discuss the transformative impact of Career and Technology Education (CTE) on students and communities. As February is Career Technical Education Month, Michelle shares the unique offerings and successes of her institution, which serves the students of Clark County by providing real-world skills and pathways to high-demand careers. From the wide range of programs available—from health sciences to engineering and agriculture—Michelle delves into the critical role of community partnerships, the evolving landscape of CTE, and how these programs equip students to emerge as career, college, and life ready. Whether discussing the challenges of addressing mental health in education or the rewarding experiences of seeing students thrive, this episode offers an inspiring glimpse into the future of vocational education. Join us to learn how Springfield Clark CTC is breaking stereotypes and creating life-changing opportunities for its students.

Key Moments

05:22 Education & Cosmetology Training Program

07:33 New Facility and Oversubscription Challenges

09:58 School Campus Models and Transportation

15:33 Career Technical Education Vision

16:54 Full Circle: From Learner to Educator

21:40 Vocational School Stereotype Struggle

24:40 Ohio Career Tech Teacher Pathway

28:10 Integrated Curriculum for Practical Learning

29:35 Innovative Education and Whole-Child Focus

34:50 Block Schedule Boosts Academic Focus

37:27 Career Technical Education Rewards

39:10 Youth Anxiety: A Growing Concern

44:17 Transformative Teaching Beyond Testing

46:33 "Find Your Literary Connection"

49:00 Anxious Generation Insights

Connect with Michelle Patrick

Website: https://www.scctc.org/

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7 months ago
51 minutes

More Than A Test
Leading a Rural School District: Challenges and Opportunities with Devvon Dettra


In this episode of More Than a Test, host Jennie Tookoian converses with Devvon Dettra, the dynamic superintendent of Rolling Hills Local School District in Ohio. Devvon, a Meadowbrook High School alumnus, offers a unique perspective in tackling the distinct challenges and opportunities within small rural school districts. The discussion highlights how Rolling Hills is revolutionizing education through innovative measures such as consolidating into a single, cutting-edge building, promoting teacher collaboration, and expanding resources and technology accessibility.

Tune in as Devvon shares the district's strategic approach to combating poverty, increasing student opportunities through career-tech education, and fostering stronger community engagement. He also reflects on his personal leadership journey, shaped profoundly by his father, a former superintendent. As Devvon outlines his vision for the future—including further efficiency improvements, bolstering early education, and embracing new initiatives—this conversation serves as a treasure trove of insights for educators, administrators, and those passionate about transforming educational landscapes. Join us for an inspiring look at the evolution of education in Rolling Hills with Devvon Dettra guiding the way.


Key Moments

05:27 Unified Elementary Schools Collaboration

09:05 Rural Struggles and Resourcefulness

10:10 Mindshift Needed for Cultural Understanding

13:13 "People-Driven Curriculum Development"

17:41 Creative Hiring for Chemistry Teacher

20:03 Expanding Certifications in Education

24:14 Analyzing Rural District Challenges


25:52 Community Growth Through Youth Sports

30:09 Community Loss, Leadership Shift

33:02 Cultivating Leadership Through Experiential Learning

36:57 Influence Shift in Student Role Models

39:31 Proud of Administrative and Teaching Staff

43:54 "From Encyclopedias to AI"

46:08 "Social Skills Define Success"


Connect with Devvon Dettra

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devvon-dettra-7b28b7175

Website: https://rollinghills.k12.oh.us/

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8 months ago
48 minutes

More Than A Test
Leading with Technology: Enhancing Education Through Innovation and Operations with Ryan Altemeyer

In More Than a Test podcast, host Jennie Tookoian sits down with Ryan Altemeyer, Associate Superintendent of the Monterey Peninsula Unified School District, to explore the intersection of technology, operations, and education. With over 12 years of experience in the technology industry and extensive leadership in educational operations, Altemeyer shares how his district is leveraging technology to enhance student learning and operational efficiency.


The conversation delves into the unique challenges and opportunities of serving a diverse student population across Monterey, Marina, and Seaside, California. Altemeyer highlights the district's proactive approach to integrating technology, including early adoption of tools like Gmail and current exploration of AI to improve transparency in budgeting and enhance classroom experiences. 


Tune in to learn how Monterey Peninsula Unified School District is navigating change and building a supportive learning environment for all students.



Key Moments


01:33 – Overview of Monterey Peninsula Unified School District


03:51 – Priorities for Students and the Community


05:08 – Ryan’s Journey into Education Leadership


08:46 – Adoption and Impact of AI in Education


11:27 – Developing Policies for Student Use of AI

13:01 – Transition into Leadership and Influences

18:11 – Unifying Departments Around Student-Centered Goals

22:00 – Funding Priorities and Early Literacy Focus

27:11 – Declining Enrollment and Cost of Living Challenges

30:23 – Teacher Recruitment and Retention Efforts

31:06 – Balancing Technology Innovation and Security


Connect with Ryan Altemeyer

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altemeyer/

Website: https://www.mpusd.net/

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9 months ago
37 minutes

More Than A Test
Improving Education with Dr. Svetlana Cvetkovic: From Data to Literacy

Dr. Svetlana Cvetkovic is a passionate educator, researcher, and founder of Encoding Literacy. Dr. Cvetkovic shares her journey from a childhood love of Nancy Drew's books to becoming a literacy specialist committed to addressing the urgent issue of adult illiteracy in America.

We'll delve into the importance of effectively using test results to improve education, the role of AI in customizing learning materials, and why personalized, evidence-based teaching methods are critical for overcoming reading difficulties. Dr. Cvetkovic will also discuss her innovative speech-first literacy approach and the potential of fMRI technology to advance our understanding of the reading brain.


Join us as we reflect on the importance of early intervention, the challenges faced by struggling readers, and Dr. Cvetkovic's mission to create a joyful and efficient learning environment. We'll also touch on the surprising delays in integrating educational research into practice and the exciting future of the "science of learning." Stay tuned for an inspiring and insightful conversation highlighting effective literacy education's power.

Key Moments


20:29 Depends on the individual's journey and trauma experienced.

24:04 Prioritize prevention in teaching reading and spelling.

28:14 Spelling indicates reading issues and needs attention.

32:20 Need vetted resources, a common understanding among educators.

35:40 Teachers juggle multiple roles and responsibilities daily.

48:00 Maya Angelou's advice: Change or adjust attitude.

50:55 Elderly advocate struggles to improve literacy outcome

Connect with Dr. Svetlana Cvetkovic

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/svetlana-cvetkovic-phd-1a161b301/

Website: https://www.encodingliteracy.com/svetlana-cvetkovic

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9 months ago
52 minutes

More Than A Test
Equity and Excellence in Education: Dr. Bonita Jamison’s Approach at MRH Schools


In this episode, we explore MRH’s comprehensive strategic plan, "Honoring our history and shaping our future." We’ll touch on critical issues such as staff retention, made more challenging by the pandemic, and the importance of genuine community engagement that goes beyond simple board meetings. Dr. Jamison will share her reflections on influential books like "Jim Crow's Pink Slip" and "The Anxious Generation," which have shaped her approach to leadership.

Dr. Jamison will also introduce us to MRH’s distinctive "looping" system, aimed at cultivating sustained relationships between students and educators, and the district's move towards competency-based education that values real-world skills over mere test scores. Her leadership involves being a "lead learner," participating in district-wide professional development, reflecting her commitment to lifelong learning.

We'll also discuss the financial challenges facing the district, particularly the impact of declining COVID relief funds, and Dr. Jamison's dedication to providing multiple pathways to success for students, ranging from traditional academic routes to career readiness programs and internships.

Key Moments

10:38 Experiences and relationships foster belonging and impact.

12:58 Board prioritizes equity in education decisions.

18:27 Engaging community, showcasing SEL work, board roundtables.

23:22 Local funding crucial; sustaining programs amid challenges.

31:32 Grant to enhance district's competency-based education.

36:57 Mentor vital in career, combating imposter syndrome.

39:02 Emphasize pathways, market assets in education change.

45:05 Reimagining education by prioritizing student-driven learning.

48:44 Opportunity to foster belonging and address turnover.

56:51 Cellphone connects me with distant family.

01:03:29 Explore diverse paths to success, disrupt paradigms.

01:05:39 Honored to speak about dedicated teachers' work.

Connect with Dr.Bonita Jamison

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bonita-e-jamison-ed-d-she-her-hers-3971b179/

Website:https://www.mrhschools.net/Page/1

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10 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes

More Than A Test
Jerry Boyd on Mentorship, AI, and Addressing Social-Emotional Needs in Education


Education is not just about testing; it’s about preparing students for life, with strong relationships and personalized learning.

Jerry Boyd, Superintendent of Washington County Schools in Tennessee, discusses his innovative approach to education with host Jennie Tookoian. He emphasizes the importance of fostering sustainable mentor-student relationships and integrating AI into classrooms to enhance personalized learning. 

Jerry also outlines the district’s efforts to address post-pandemic challenges, particularly social-emotional needs, and introduces the newly implemented K-8 STEM curriculum. Jerry also reflects on his leadership journey, underscoring the value of teamwork and a philosophy of education that goes beyond standardized testing.


Key Moments


05:46 Skills, STEM, career prep.

08:06 Developing leaders.

17:33 Mental wellness focus.

22:30 Support for success.

27:30 AI supports teachers.

33:13 Student voices matter.

Connect with Jerry Boyd

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrysboyd 

Website: https://www.washingtoncountytn.org/ 


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10 months ago
47 minutes

More Than A Test
Sue Lemon’s Leadership: Overcoming Post-Pandemic Challenges in Education

Education is more than just a test; it’s about nurturing the whole child and shaping the future.

Sue Lemon, superintendent of Rosedale Union School District in Bakersfield, California. They discuss the challenges of supporting students' social-emotional needs, navigating political pressures, and addressing the ongoing effects of COVID-19.

Sue shares the district's innovative approaches, including the Orton-Gillingham phonics method, Universal Design for Learning, and a focus on restorative practices. She also highlights efforts to close learning gaps, implement full-day kindergarten, and explore AI's role in education. Sue reflects on her personal journey and a symbolic story of a hummingbird representing her father's belief in her.

Key Moments


05:24 Parent education partnership

08:15 Leadership growth

14:28 Behavior expectations

34:13 Preparing thinkers

45:51 Excited for AI in education


Connect with Sue Lemon

Twitter : https://x.com/slemonlemon

Website: https://ca01902710.schoolwires.net

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11 months ago
52 minutes

More Than A Test
Dr. Michael Cardona on Transforming San Marcos CISD: AI, Parents, and Leadership

Innovation in education is more than just a test; it's about shaping the future.  


Dr. Michael Cardona, Superintendent of San Marcos CISD, shares how the district is transforming education through innovative curriculum, AI integration, and strategic partnerships. He discusses the challenges of vouchers, funding, and competition with private schools, as well as a groundbreaking coding pathway for students from low-income and bilingual backgrounds.


Michael also highlights a successful collaboration with Texas State University, providing concurrent enrollment opportunities, and leadership programs designed to nurture internal talent post-COVID. He also reflects on the importance of community engagement, the impact of early college programs, and his personal connection to students and staff.  


Key Moments


08:52 Mentorship pathways.

18:46 Celebrating achievements.

21:50 Post-COVID trust.

29:48 Socratic seminar.

41:19 Community over ego

Connect with Michael Cardona

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-michael-cardona-21a51420 

Website: https://www.smcisd.net/ 

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11 months ago
42 minutes

More Than A Test
How Eric Hudspith’s Empathetic Leadership is Driving Growth in Rural Schools

Education is not just about what students know, but about who they become  

Dr. Eric Hudspith, the superintendent of Waseca Public Schools in Minnesota, and author of two books:  Culture Driven Leadership and Creating a Culture of Success, has a career that spans from classroom teacher to district leader, He brings a deep understanding of the challenges facing small and rural school districts.  

Dr. Hudspith talks about his deep passion for literacy and the innovative teaching strategies he’s implemented in his district. He also opens up about the importance of teacher retention and the steps being taken to support educators. Throughout the conversation, he highlights the critical role community partnerships play in closing resource gaps and ensuring all students have the support they need to succeed. He also touches on the future of vocational training and shares his thoughts on how empathy-driven leadership can make a real difference in education.


Key Moments


05:29 Ensuring life options for students.

12:30 Interest-based course expansion.

22:27 Improving teacher retention.

32:22 Empathy in leadership.

39:40 Implementing AI tools.

Connect with Eric Hudspith

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-hudspith-458b48a1 

Website: https://www.wasecacounty.gov/ 

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11 months ago
50 minutes

More Than A Test
Bringing Generations Together: The Secret Behind Blue Earth Area Schools' Success

“Seeing children as whole individuals goes far beyond standardized tests.”

Mandy Fletcher, Superintendent shares her journey with Blue Earth Area Public Schools. Since 2019, she has faced financial crises, including a failed levy and budget cuts, while implementing innovative changes.

Mandy highlights the introduction of a health science academy connecting students with local healthcare facilities and emphasizes community input, the READ Act's impact on literacy, and support for the growing Hispanic and Latino population.

She also discusses how the pandemic reshaped family-school engagement, leading to creative community events. Tune in to discover how small districts can foster resilience in education by recognizing each child's individuality.

Key Moments

12:47 Transition to coaching.

19:44 College vs. workforce readiness.

26:28 Transformative reading initiative.

41:28 Health science academy ties.

53:42 Beckman on connection.

Connect with Mandy Fletcher

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/mandy-fletcher-ab1

Website: blueearth.k12.mn.us

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1 year ago
54 minutes

More Than A Test
Creating Lifelong Learning: Dr. David Lawrence’s Vision for Dayton’s Future

“Education is about more than just tests—it's about heart, perseverance, and community.”

Dr. David Lawrence, superintendent of Dayton Public School, reflects on his extensive journey in education, from teaching and coaching to leading as a principal. He shares school leadership's emotional and physical demands and his dedication to teacher retention through competitive pay and support systems.


As Dayton’s first locally-born superintendent, Dr. Lawrence has a deep personal connection to the community and discusses key projects under his leadership, such as the Welcome Stadium renovation. He emphasizes the importance of authentic leadership and building stable educational environments, and he has a vision for elevating Dayton schools to new heights through strategic planning and commitment to long-term success.


Key Moments

04:53 $21M for Transportation, Ongoing Litigation

14:47 Importance of Bonuses for Teacher Retention

17:27 Success of Education in Jackson, Mississippi

22:13 Celebrating Dunbar's Legacy as First Black High School

41:45 Embracing Authentic Opportunities


Connect with Dr. David Lawrence

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-e-lawrence

Website: https://dps.k12.oh.us/ 


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About More Than a Test

Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0. 

Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543. 

Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


About Amira Learning

Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


About your Host, Laura Glaab

Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


Connect with Laura

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 


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Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD 

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1 year ago
52 minutes

More Than A Test
Dr. Alex Marrero’s Vision: Making Education Fair for Everyone, Not Just About Graduation

“Education is the foundation for equity, and every student deserves the opportunity to thrive.”

Dr. Alex Marrero, Superintendent of Denver Public Schools, brings extensive experience in proactive leadership and community engagement. In this episode of "More Than A Test", he discusses the challenges and successes in transforming education in Colorado’s largest district. He shares his initiatives, such as forming a task force for local educational issues and establishing Community Hubs to support students and families. 


Dr.Marrero highlights the complexities of navigating political and financial pressures while advocating for marginalized communities. Through innovative approaches and a commitment to seeing the potential in every student, Dr. Marrero offers valuable insights into empathetic and responsive educational leadership. Join us as we explore his vision for the future of education.


Key Moments


07:03 Impact of City Violence

16:52 Growth Before Proficiency

24:58 Success Through Engagement

41:00 Challenges of Rigid Education

44:16 Effects of School Closures

52:50 Pursuit of Equity


Connect with Dr. Alex Marrero

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drmarrero 

Website: https://www.dpsk12.org/ 


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About More Than a Test

Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0. 

Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543. 

Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


About Amira Learning

Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


About your Host, Laura Glaab

Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


Connect with Laura

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 


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Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD

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1 year ago
51 minutes

More Than A Test
Building a Better Tomorrow: Dana Addis on Emotional Growth & Learning Integration

“Education is not just about tests and grades; it's about building meaningful connections and nurturing growth”

Dana Addis, superintendent of Hudson City Schools talks about the impact of the Service Learning Program, the challenges of the teacher hiring process, and innovative projects like "Helping Hands."He discusses the district's obstacles, the crucial role of safety, and the importance of community and business partnerships.


Dana shares his journey from teacher and coach to superintendent, his leadership philosophy, and the benefits of personalized education and social-emotional learning. Dana’s stories about his favorite literature, coaching lessons, and his commitment to connecting with students and staff. 


Key Moments

 07:10  Community Support for School Initiatives

 11:37  3D Prosthetics Sent to Tanzania

 17:22  Superintendent’s Active Engagement

 37:06  Enhancing Education with AI

 42:00  Teacher’s Role in Igniting a Writing Passion


Connect with Dana Addis

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dana-addis-1b70604b 

Website: https://www.hudson.k12.oh.us/ 


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About More Than a Test

Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0. 

Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543. 

Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


About Amira Learning

Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


About your Host, Laura Glaab

Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


Connect with Laura

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 


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Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD 



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1 year ago
48 minutes

More Than A Test
Enhancing Education with Patience and Data-Driven Tech: Insights from Ryan Baker

“Ultimately, we don't want a society of people who are mediocre with all their flaws. We want people who are amazing at science.”

Ryan Baker, an expert in AI and education, for a conversation that challenges perceptions and sparks personal growth. Ryan shares his method of spending 30 minutes daily learning something outside of his work, an approach that has inspired Laura. Together, they explore how AI is reshaping the classroom, providing immediate feedback for students and enhancing learning processes. 

From writing feedback to asset-based assessments, Ryan provides a thought-provoking look into the future of education and the balanced role AI can play.


Key Moments

00:00:03 - Daily learning habit

00:01:05 - AI in education

00:02:15 - Fast feedback in class

00:04:38 - Limits of AI

00:06:30 - Screen time discussion

00:09:09 - How to choose EdTech

00:16:52 - Future of AI in school

00:22:41 - Class size and AI

00:25:35 - AI helping teachers

00:26:06 - Building on students’ strengths


Connect with Ryan Baker

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-baker-36567482

Website: https://www.upenn.edu/


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About More Than a Test

Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0. 

Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543. 

Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


About Amira Learning

Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


About your Host, Laura Glaab

Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


Connect with Laura

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 


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Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD

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1 year ago
43 minutes

More Than A Test
Dr. Shawn Bird’s Mission: Fighting for Equity in San Antonio’s Schools

“It's just more expensive to raise children, and so people move out to the suburbs”

Dr. Shawn Bird, Deputy Superintendent of San Antonio Schools, discusses significant changes in the district, including the recent closure of 14 elementary schools and the efforts to serve over 45,000 students across more than 100 schools. Dr. Bird addresses the community's reaction to these closures, the strategic decisions behind them, and innovative solutions like improved mental health support and special education services. 


He shares insights from his extensive career in urban education, the effects of lower funding in Texas compared to other states, and his dual role in overseeing school leadership and academic services. The conversation explores urban enrollment declines, demographic shifts, and the unique challenges faced by San Antonio's district. Dr. Bird also reflects on his journey, passion for teaching, and views on educational leadership.


Key Moments


00:00 Equity and Student Services

04:12 Demographics and School Closures

08:25 Mentor Reunion in San Antonio

13:32 COVID’s Impact on Performance

23:13 Aspiring Superintendent Role



Connect with Dr. Shawn Bird

Website: https://www.saisd.net/


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About More Than a Test

Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0. 

Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543. 

Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 




About Amira Learning

Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


About your Host, Laura Glaab

Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


Connect with Laura

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 


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Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD 



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1 year ago
43 minutes

More Than A Test
Jeremy Roschelle Reveals: How to Balance AI Innovation and Classroom Caution

“Educating teachers, parents, and students about AI is paramount for the future of education.”

Jeremy Roschelle is a renowned expert in AI and education with extensive experience in promoting AI literacy. Jeremy has conducted groundbreaking research on AI applications in educational settings and is known for his insights into the integration of AI tools in schools.


In this episode, he shares his expertise on the importance of AI education, the challenges of implementing AI in classrooms, and how to balance conceptual understanding with practical solutions. Jeremy also discusses AI’s potential to foster equity, particularly for English language learners, and explores innovative uses of AI, such as optimizing school systems.



Key Moments

00:00  AI Needs Complex Options

05:20  Tech Lacking for Math Teachers

11:09  AI Literacy Essential for Teachers

18:52  Equity Needs Effort

28:59  Physics Passion Leads to Cognitive Science


Connect with Jeremy Roschelle

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-roschelle/ 

Website: https://digitalpromise.org/ 


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About More Than a Test

Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0. 

Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543. 

Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


About Amira Learning

Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


About your Host, Laura Glaab

Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


Connect with Laura

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 

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Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD 

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1 year ago
50 minutes

More Than A Test
Revolutionizing Schools: Erin Mote’s Vision for Collaborative EdTech

“Interoperability in education is as crucial as hot water pipes in a building's infrastructure—the system needs to function seamlessly.“

In today’s episode, Erin Mote, co-founder of Brooklyn Lab and a leader at InnovateEDU, dives into the transformative power of connecting organizations with school districts. She sheds light on the pivotal role of interoperability, privacy, and accessibility in EdTech.


Erin recounts her experiences, from supporting military families to advancing special education, and explores the potential of AI in education. Throughout the discussion, she underscores the importance of evidence-based solutions for driving progress.


Timestamps


03:51  Solving educational challenges for military and transient kids.

06:47  InnovateEDU creates change through alliances.

16:10  Evaluating edtech: privacy, security, and interoperability.

27:36  Innovative education model implemented in Brooklyn Lab.

30:03  Incredibly diverse school with 20% JJ involvement.

37:28  Using technology for real-time student assessment.



Connect with Erin Mote

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinmote

Website: https://www.innovateedunyc.org/


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About More Than a Test

Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.


Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.


Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0. 

Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543. 

Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ 


About Amira Learning

Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency.


About your Host, Laura Glaab

Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.


She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management.


Everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems.


Connect with Laura

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ 


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Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning 

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Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD

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1 year ago
53 minutes

More Than A Test
Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology. Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears. Hosted by Laura Glaab, VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management. She thinks everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems. More Than a Test is brought to you by Amira Learning. ---- About More Than a Test Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology. Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ ---- About Amira Learning Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency. About your Host, Laura Glaab Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management. She thinks everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems. Connect with Laura LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ ---- Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning ---- Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD