Doug chats with Producer Chris about a variety of topics including irrational money fears, why people commonly talk about their work in social settings, and what their day-to-day lives look like in early retirement. They explore common financial anxieties such as the fear of running out of money and how past experiences shape these fears. They share strategies for steering conversations away from work and towards more engaging subjects like travel and hobbies. Finally, they provide a glimpse into their daily routines, highlighting the freedom and fulfillment that early retirement and semi-retirement offers. Do you like the podcast and want to support the show?  Follow the link to find out how: https://milehighfi.com/support/ Links Bill Perkins, “Die With Zero” Kindle Hardcover Paperback Audiobook Mark Trautman on MHFI episode 260 New ChooseFI Local site ChooseFI Puget Sound Meetup, May 31, 2025 MHFI Etsy Store MHFI Facebook group Doug’s site Check out Producer Chris’s new blog: Epic Financial Journey — Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s the email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles Email the show: doug@milehighfi.com 0:00 Introduction 1:26 Fear of running out of money 8:56 Reacting to stock market volatility 15:01 Sequence of Returns Risk & flexibility 24:43 Why people talk about work 28:49 What else to talk about & complaining 33:27 Chris’s typical day 41:21 Doug’s typical day 49:12 Open time & Parkinson’s Law 56:27 Soundcheck – Rock & Roll Hall of Fame