This week I sat down with Dylan Sturdy, the creator of Chicago’s first MadMade Print and Zine Fair, happening November 15th from 12 to 4:30 pm. The fair will gather mad and disabled artists working in print and zine for a day of conversation, creativity, and connection.
Our talk moves through Dylan’s path to this moment, the choices that shaped her practice, what community means when you live at the edges of psychiatry, and how making art together can become its own kind of care.
In this episode, Matt and Megan journey into the life and words of Margery Kempe, a 15th-century English mystic whose uncontrollable weeping, visions, and pilgrimages made her both revered and reviled. Told through a mad perspective, the conversation explores how her tears became testimony, how her voice survived interrogation, and how her story continues to challenge the boundaries between faith, madness, and power.
Listeners will discover how The Book of Margery Kempe the first autobiography in English, was dictated, lost for centuries, and rediscovered in 1934, reawakening a voice that still refuses silence. From medieval marketplaces to modern conversations about madness and identity, this episode invites reflection on what it means to live fully, speak boldly, and cry without apology.
This episode explores how political leaders weaponize the language of madness, calling critics “lunatics,” “hysterical,” or “insane," to dismiss dissent and justify control. Drawing on Paulo Freire’s Pedagogy of the Oppressed, we examine how these labels silence dialogue, criminalize difference, and collapse madness, criminality, and foreignness into one category of threat. We ask what happens to truth when it is called madness, and how reclaiming language can restore dialogue and resistance
“Everyone is a little crazy” is a phrase we may hear often, it is meant to soften the edges of difference. In this episode, Matt Bodett unpacks the grain of truth in that claim while pushing back on the ways it flattens lived experience. From the spectrum of human disorientation to the histories of stigma, confinement, and appropriation, this conversation asks: what gets lost when madness is reduced to a universal quirk? Matt traces how culture has borrowed mad aesthetics while sidelining mad people, and offers a different way of thinking, different ways oof reclaiming madness as identity, history, and knowledge.
In this episode of Mad Tea, Matt and Megan explore the extraordinary life of Hildegard of Bingen. From her beginnings in the cloister to her bold preaching tours across Germany, Hildegard emerges as a visionary abbess, composer, healer, and writer who challenged the boundaries of her time. We discuss her luminous visions, her music that sought to echo the harmony of creation, her inventive Lingua Ignota, and her writings on medicine and the natural world. Along the way, we reflect on what Hildegard can teach us about mad authenticity, spirituality, and the greening power she called viriditas. We also share a tea drawn from her world, hyssop, linking the taste of an ancient remedy with the themes of renewal and community. Tune in for history, reflection, and a living conversation with a figure whose voice still resonates across the centuries.
We sit down with Colombian artist Polvo Eres, whose exhibition Our Existence is Protest is currently on view at the Center for Mad Culture. Born out of fear of government crackdowns on mad, disabled, houseless, and immigrant communities, the project transformed the Center into a space of resistance where community members could gather, set type, and print their own posters of protest.
In this conversation, we talk about political violence, the weaponization of psychiatric language, and the power of creating together when traditional protest spaces are inaccessible. As part of the show, visitors also left their own messages of protest, two of which are shared at the end of the episode.
In this episode of Mad Tea, we dive into the extraordinary hidden world of Henry Joseph Darger Jr. (1892–1973). A reclusive hospital custodian in Chicago, Darger spent decades creating a 15,000-page epic and hundreds of massive watercolors that no one saw until after his death.
We trace his childhood losses and institutionalization, his solitary adult life, and the vast universe of the Vivian Girls, their endless rebellions, and the dreamlike collages drawn from mass culture. We also look at the debates around his reception: outsider art, madness, violence, and Queer readings that complicate how we understand his life.
Darger’s story asks us to think about who gets remembered, who is erased, and how madness can be a site of creativity as well as struggle.
In this episode of Mad Tea, we explore how 19th- and early 20th-century psychiatry turned the poetry of the mad into medical evidence. From Dr. G. Mackenzie Bacon’s Writing of the Insane to Ales Hrdlička’s Art and Literature in the Mentally Abnormal, we look at how doctors treated poems and letters as “symptoms” instead of works of art.
We contrast that history with a mad-centered reading—seeing repetition, metaphor, and fragmentation not as disorder but as strategies of expression and survival. Along the way we discuss surrealism, Antonin Artaud, and Hannah Weiner’s clairvoyant journals, highlighting how psychiatry’s categories like “logorrhea” and “graphomania” have been reimagined by poets and activists as creative methods.
We also ask: What happens when madness is read as method instead of failure? What shifts when we reclaim mad poetics as part of literary and cultural history?
This episode explores mad liberation as both personal truth and collective resistance. We revisit themes from earlier conversations, not out of redundancy, but as an act of solidarity in the face of ongoing political hostility toward mad lives. Through reflection, metaphor, and lived experience, we examine how societal roles are imposed, how resistance becomes community building, and why affirming our presence is essential during times of national crisis.
In this episode, recorded live at Access Living on August 7th, 2025, Matt Bodett explores the relationship between madness and culture, examining how it has shaped our histories and creative expressions, and how it has been systematically erased from them. Part of Cripping the Galleries, a collaboration with Bodies of Work, Access Living, the Museum of Contemporary Art Chicago, and the Art Institute of Chicago, the talk invites us to reconsider what is lost when mad culture is silenced and what can emerge when it is recognized. This is also our first episode with an accompanying video, offering a visual supplement to the conversation.
🚨 In this episode of Mad Tea, we break down Trump’s new Executive Order on homelessness and mental health line by line. What looks like care is actually surveillance, coercion, and criminalization. We name the harm, expose the language, and offer solidarity.
Housing is a right. Madness is not a crime.
Listen now.
Here is a link to the executive order on the government's website:
In this episode of Mad Tea, Matt and Megan explore the idea of ghosts—not the spectral kind, but those that haunt our memories, bodies, and inner landscapes. Through the stories of Milarepa, the Tibetan “mad yogi,” and Vincent van Gogh, they reflect on how madness can be met not with fear or suppression, but with compassion, invitation, and integration. These figures did not escape their suffering but transformed their relationship to it, offering a powerful model for how we might sit with our own madness.
What does it mean to be responsible as a mad person in a world that refuses to recognize your reality? In this episode, Matt Bodett and Megan Sterling explore the difficult, necessary, and expansive terrain of mad responsibility. Drawing from the myth of Herakles and his labors, we ask: What happens when madness causes harm? What is penance without punishment? And how do we create communities that hold accountability without exile?
Through conversation, reflection, and critique, we look at what it means to lead from within madness, to translate mad experience without betrayal, and to honor the silences that cannot be filled. We invite you to consider what kind of spaces, relationships, and futures we might build when we refuse the scripts of guilt and begin to write our own terms of care.
In this special reflection episode, we step away from biographies and histories to explore madness itself—not as a diagnosis, but as a philosophy. What happens when madness is seen not as error, but as insight? Not as disorder, but as sacred rupture?
Drawing on lived experience, poetic language, and philosophical frameworks, this episode invites listeners into a deeper meditation on perception, beauty, coherence, and the illusions we call normalcy. Along the way, we consider the limits of reason, the violence of performance, the possibilities of peer care, and why madness might be closer to the truth than we’re often allowed to believe.
This episode is slower, more spacious. This episode is an offering for those who have stood at the edge and wondered what it means to keep going.
In this episode, we trace the haunting life and visionary work of Unica Zürn. She was a German/French surrealist, poet, and artist. Through drawings, anagram poetry, and hallucinatory writing, Zürn reimagined madness not as pathology, but as a form of expression. We explore her relationships, institutionalization, and artistic resistance, asking what it means to write from a dangerous place.
This episode traces the life of Antonin Artaud—a poet, actor, director, and relentless disruptor of theatrical and psychiatric order. From his early struggles with mental distress and dependency to his expulsion from the Surrealist movement, Artaud's life defied categorization. We follow his journey through experimental theater, his voyages to Ireland and Mexico, and the nine years he spent confined in asylums across France, subjected to electroshock and institutional control.
Rather than romanticize his suffering, we examine the material realities of Artaud’s madness: the brutal conditions of psychiatric internment, the erasure of his agency, and the desperate struggle to preserve language in the face of silencing. We listen closely to the voice that emerged from this crucible.
This is the story of a man who refused coherence, who demanded the impossible, and who insisted that art must be lived, not merely shown. This is Artaud, in all his contradiction and fire.
On April 24th, Julia Macintosh visited the Center for Mad Culture all the way from Edinburgh, Scotland. Julia presented some of her history and advocacy work with friends who came to hear her speak. This visit to the Center was accompanied by the wonderful news that Julia would be opening a Center for Mad Culture UK! Our collaborations will find further ways to create international opportunities for Mad Culture!
In this episode, we sit down with artist Cam Collins, whose current exhibition at the Center for Mad Culture "Copper Odyssey 2: Museum of Miracles," explores the layered relationship between lived experiences and built worlds. Cam talks about their process and the role of printmaking and museums in their work. We get into the way of the Canvas, Redman, and Respecting the Craft.
This conversation is about art, but also about the worlds we inhabit—and the ones we choose to make.
Instagram: @collins_cameron
Bluesky: @copperodyssey
website: camcollins.us
Games: cam999.itch.io
Store: camcollins.bigcartel.com
Attorney and psychiatric survivor Jim Gottstein joins us to discuss his decades-long fight against forced treatment and psychiatric abuse. As the founder of the Law Project for Psychiatric Rights (PsychRights), Jim has worked to expose the legal and ethical violations at the heart of the mental health system. In this episode, he shares the inside story of The Zyprexa Papers—a landmark case in which he released internal documents from Eli Lilly revealing the company’s efforts to conceal the dangers of its antipsychotic drug, Zyprexa. From legal resistance to pharmaceutical accountability, this conversation traces what it means to challenge psychiatric power from within the system.
This episode of Mad Tea explores the deeply complicated 1922 book Artistry of the Mentally Ill by Hans Prinzhorn—a psychiatrist who gathered over 5,000 works of art made by institutionalized psychiatric patients. In this episode, Matt and Megan examine how the book influenced modern art movements like Surrealism and Art Brut, while also reinforcing psychiatric narratives that erased the humanity and agency of its creators. Focusing on the ten artists Prinzhorn called “schizophrenic masters,” the episode gives voice to those who were institutionalized, silenced, and often killed—yet left behind vivid, astonishing works. The hosts question who gets to be called an artist, how madness is aestheticized, and what it means to reclaim these stories today.
In this episode we visit the works and lives of: August Natterer, Karl Genzel, August Klett, Clemens von Ortzen, Hermann Behle, Hyacinth Freiherr von Wieser, Peter Moog, Johann Knopf, Joseph Schneller, and Franz Pohl.
Written and hosted by Matt Bodett and Megan Sterling
Produced by Press Here and a a project of the Center for Mad Culture
Music produced and provided by Had Matter
