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Liminal Living
Dr. Thomas J Rundel
158 episodes
4 days ago
Welcome to the Liminal Living Podcast, where we dive deep into the realm of liminal spaces—those transitional phases where uncertainty is our companion. I'm your host and curator of conversations, Dr. Tom Rundel, and it's my pleasure to serve as your guide through these uncharted territories. With a doctoral background in spirituality and leadership from Portland Seminary, my research has centered on the spirituality found in the narratives of liminality in the Bible, but I have expanded my research to include other faith traditions and cognitive science. Since our launch in 2023, we've been dedicated to exploring the nuances of dark nights and deconstructions, but our journey expanded to include insights from a diverse array of modern-day thinkers and artists. Through a blend of stories, practices, and perspectives, we provide valuable guidance for fellow travelers navigating their own liminal spaces. So, join us as we embark on this journey and embrace the uncertainty in order to uncover the hidden wisdom that lies within the liminal spaces of life.
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Welcome to the Liminal Living Podcast, where we dive deep into the realm of liminal spaces—those transitional phases where uncertainty is our companion. I'm your host and curator of conversations, Dr. Tom Rundel, and it's my pleasure to serve as your guide through these uncharted territories. With a doctoral background in spirituality and leadership from Portland Seminary, my research has centered on the spirituality found in the narratives of liminality in the Bible, but I have expanded my research to include other faith traditions and cognitive science. Since our launch in 2023, we've been dedicated to exploring the nuances of dark nights and deconstructions, but our journey expanded to include insights from a diverse array of modern-day thinkers and artists. Through a blend of stories, practices, and perspectives, we provide valuable guidance for fellow travelers navigating their own liminal spaces. So, join us as we embark on this journey and embrace the uncertainty in order to uncover the hidden wisdom that lies within the liminal spaces of life.
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Christianity
Religion & Spirituality,
Society & Culture,
Philosophy,
Spirituality
Episodes (20/158)
Liminal Living
142: Thomas Jay Oord: Why Prayer "Doesn't Work." Re-enchanting the World
In this engaging conversation, Tom Rundel and Thomas Jay Oord explore the complexities of spirituality, deconstruction, and the nature of God. They discuss the challenges of understanding divine action, the role of prayer, and the implications of a non-controlling God. Oord emphasizes the importance of reimagining past spiritual experiences and the need for a new framework that integrates both scientific and philosophical perspectives. The dialogue culminates in reflections on life after death and the enduring presence of loved ones, offering a hopeful vision for the future of faith and spirituality.
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4 days ago
1 hour 3 minutes 59 seconds

Liminal Living
141: Andrew M Davis: Cosmological Humility, Living Between Science and Spirit
In this engaging conversation, Tom Rundel and Andrew M Davis explore the intersection of philosophy, science, and spirituality, emphasizing the importance of wonder and enchantment in understanding the universe. They discuss the challenges of reconciling modern scientific advancements with traditional religious beliefs, the role of art and poetry in enriching human experience, and the need for a holistic approach to values and meaning. Davis shares personal anecdotes and insights on how to cultivate a sense of enchantment in daily life, encouraging listeners to embrace the mysteries of existence and remain open to new possibilities.
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1 week ago
1 hour 3 minutes 44 seconds

Liminal Living
140: Anthony Smith: This Ain't Revival
In this conversation, Tom Rundel and Anthony Smith explore the complexities of personal and political transitions, the challenges of community organizing, and the contrasting images of God in contemporary society. They discuss the implications of Christian nationalism, the true nature of the Kingdom of God, and the essence of revival as a transformative force for social justice. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of grassroots movements and the hope found in community solidarity amidst political turmoil. takeaways Anthony moved to Birmingham to care for his mother and seek new career opportunities. His political experience provided encouragement through community impact but also revealed discouragement from corporate influence. Change requires a critical mass of people working together, not just one individual in office. The image of God in Christian nationalism contrasts sharply with the God of compassion and solidarity. Revival is not merely emotional experiences but involves real social and political change. The Kingdom of God is about justice, community, and the reversal of societal norms. Grassroots movements are essential for creating meaningful change in society. Hope can be found in local community efforts and mutual aid networks. Cruelty in politics may awaken a collective consciousness to fight against oppression. The narrative of Christian nationalism is a tactic to maintain power and division.
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2 weeks ago
1 hour 5 minutes 40 seconds

Liminal Living
139: Matt Tebbe: Reimagining God Beyond Empire Economics Pt 2 of 2
In this two part conversation, Tom Rundel and Matt Tebbe explore the intersections of adventure, community, and the challenges faced by modern pastors. They discuss the importance of genuine hope versus toxic positivity, the complexities of navigating political issues within ministry, and the moral dilemmas that arise in a world influenced by capitalism and Christian nationalism. Through personal anecdotes and philosophical reflections, they delve into the vital role of community support and the need for pastors to find meaning in their work amidst societal chaos. In this conversation, Matt Tebbe and Tom Rundel explore the complex relationship between self-interest, capitalism, and the teachings of Christianity. They discuss how the Kingdom of God operates on principles of grace rather than merit, and how societal structures often conflict with spiritual teachings. The dialogue delves into the implications of Christian nationalism, the impact of Enlightenment thought on religious practices, and the need for Christians to critically examine their relationship with capitalism and systemic issues. They also share practical examples of how individuals and communities can challenge the dominant economic narratives and engage in meaningful experiments to align their lives more closely with the values of the Kingdom of God
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3 weeks ago
48 minutes 5 seconds

Liminal Living
138: Matt Tebbe: Reimagining God Beyond Empire Economics: Pt 1
In this two part conversation, Tom Rundel and Matt Tebbe explore the intersections of adventure, community, and the challenges faced by modern pastors. They discuss the importance of genuine hope versus toxic positivity, the complexities of navigating political issues within ministry, and the moral dilemmas that arise in a world influenced by capitalism and Christian nationalism. Through personal anecdotes and philosophical reflections, they delve into the vital role of community support and the need for pastors to find meaning in their work amidst societal chaos. In this conversation, Matt Tebbe and Tom Rundel explore the complex relationship between self-interest, capitalism, and the teachings of Christianity. They discuss how the Kingdom of God operates on principles of grace rather than merit, and how societal structures often conflict with spiritual teachings. The dialogue delves into the implications of Christian nationalism, the impact of Enlightenment thought on religious practices, and the need for Christians to critically examine their relationship with capitalism and systemic issues. They also share practical examples of how individuals and communities can challenge the dominant economic narratives and engage in meaningful experiments to align their lives more closely with the values of the Kingdom of God
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1 month ago
57 minutes 36 seconds

Liminal Living
137: Tori Owens & Jonathan Foster: Rooting God in the Human Experience
In this episode of the Liminal Living podcast, host Tom Rundel engages in a deep conversation with Tori Owens and Jonathan Foster about open and relational theology, the definition of love, and the impact of personal stories on our understanding of God. They explore how emotional well-being influences spirituality and the importance of integrating new understandings of God into daily life. The discussion emphasizes the need for a reimagined view of God that aligns with love rather than power, and how this shift can affect our interactions with others and our own mental health.
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1 month ago
1 hour 5 minutes 49 seconds

Liminal Living
136: Matt Alexander: Reimagining God After Burnout
In this episode of the Liminal Living podcast, Tom Rundel interviews Matt Alexander, who shares insights on the challenges faced by ministry leaders, particularly regarding burnout. They discuss the unique pressures of pastoral work, the importance of emotional well-being, and the mission of the Kineo Center in supporting pastors through personal retreats and sabbaticals. The conversation delves into the four components of burnout: vocational disappointment, internalized expectations, relational injuries, and unregulated emotions, emphasizing the need for pastors to navigate their emotional landscapes and foster healthy relationships within their congregations.
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1 month ago
1 hour 13 minutes 1 second

Liminal Living
135: Josh Patterson: From Deconstruction to Re-Enchantment
In this engaging conversation, Tom Rundel and Josh Patterson reconnect to explore themes of radical and process theology, the importance of storytelling in spirituality, and the need for re-enchantment in a post-deconstruction world. They discuss the interconnectedness of all beings, the role of symbols in religious traditions, and the significance of humility in understanding different faiths. The hosts encourage listeners to experiment with their faith and experiences, emphasizing that faith is about risking oneself in the direction of love and that better stories can guide us in our spiritual journeys.
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1 month ago
1 hour 19 minutes 22 seconds

Liminal Living
134a: Let Love Rule: Song Only
Tom Rundel and Jeremie Wilson conclude their Summer Songs of Resistance series with a cover of Lenny Kravitz's Let Love Rule
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1 month ago
5 minutes 1 second

Liminal Living
134: Summer Songs of Resistance Pt 10
In this conversation, Tom Rundel and Jeremie Wilson explore the intersection of music, social commentary, and personal reflection. The discussion delves into the influence of U2 on contemporary music, the role of songwriting in addressing social injustices, and the emotional power of music as a form of escapism. Throughout the conversation, themes of love, hope, and the human experience are highlighted, emphasizing the importance of music in fostering connection and understanding in a complex world. Pt 4 of 4
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2 months ago
17 minutes 6 seconds

Liminal Living
133a: Subterranean Homesick Alien: Song Only
Tom Rundel and Jeremie Wilson continue their Summer Songs of Resistance series with a cover of Radio Head's Subterranean Homesick Alien
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2 months ago
4 minutes 50 seconds

Liminal Living
133: Summer Songs of Resistance Pt 9
In this conversation, Tom Rundel and Jeremie Wilson explore the intersection of music, social commentary, and personal reflection. The discussion delves into the influence of U2 on contemporary music, the role of songwriting in addressing social injustices, and the emotional power of music as a form of escapism. Throughout the conversation, themes of love, hope, and the human experience are highlighted, emphasizing the importance of music in fostering connection and understanding in a complex world. Pt 3 of 4
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2 months ago
20 minutes 21 seconds

Liminal Living
132a: What Are We Afraid Of: Song Only
Tom Rundel and Jeremie Wilson continue their Summer Songs of Resistance series with a cover of an original tune Jeremie Wrote.
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2 months ago
5 minutes 21 seconds

Liminal Living
132: Summer Songs of Resistance Pt 8
In this conversation, Tom Rundel and Jeremie Wilson explore the intersection of music, social commentary, and personal reflection. The discussion delves into the influence of U2 on contemporary music, the role of songwriting in addressing social injustices, and the emotional power of music as a form of escapism. Throughout the conversation, themes of love, hope, and the human experience are highlighted, emphasizing the importance of music in fostering connection and understanding in a complex world. Pt 2 of 4
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2 months ago
21 minutes 15 seconds

Liminal Living
131a: Running to Stand Still: Song Only
Tom Rundel and Jeremie Wilson continue their Summer Songs of Resistance series with a cover of U2's Running to Stand Still
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2 months ago
4 minutes 20 seconds

Liminal Living
131: Summer Songs of Resistance Pt 7
In this conversation, Tom Rundel and Jeremie Wilson explore the intersection of music, social commentary, and personal reflection. The discussion delves into the influence of U2 on contemporary music, the role of songwriting in addressing social injustices, and the emotional power of music as a form of escapism. Throughout the conversation, themes of love, hope, and the human experience are highlighted, emphasizing the importance of music in fostering connection and understanding in a complex world. Pt 1 of 4
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2 months ago
18 minutes 45 seconds

Liminal Living
130: Brian McLaren: Reimagining God for the Modern World
In this engaging conversation, Tom Rundel and Brian McLaren explore a range of topics including the transition from nonfiction to fiction writing, the importance of imagination in understanding truth, and the dynamics of ethics within communities. They discuss the challenges faced by progressive Christianity, the need for recontextualizing faith in a modern world, and the journey of re-enchanting life without falling back into old superstitions. Throughout the dialogue, they emphasize the significance of empathy, community, and the role of storytelling in shaping our understanding of ethics and spirituality.
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2 months ago
56 minutes 51 seconds

Liminal Living
129a: Freedom: Song Only
to listen to the full episode with commentary please check out episode 129
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3 months ago
3 minutes 12 seconds

Liminal Living
129: Summer Songs of Resistance Pt 6
In this engaging conversation, Tom Rundel and Jeremie Wilson explore a variety of themes including the intersection of politics and faith, the challenges of modern Christianity, and the importance of creative expression through music. They discuss personal experiences, societal issues, and the role of wisdom in challenging beliefs. The conversation also touches on the prophetic tradition in Christianity, the impact of war, and the need for a more just and equitable world.
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3 months ago
23 minutes 39 seconds

Liminal Living
128a: How Come: Song Only
To listen to the full episode and hear the commentary around this song, please listen to episode 128
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3 months ago
4 minutes 3 seconds

Liminal Living
Welcome to the Liminal Living Podcast, where we dive deep into the realm of liminal spaces—those transitional phases where uncertainty is our companion. I'm your host and curator of conversations, Dr. Tom Rundel, and it's my pleasure to serve as your guide through these uncharted territories. With a doctoral background in spirituality and leadership from Portland Seminary, my research has centered on the spirituality found in the narratives of liminality in the Bible, but I have expanded my research to include other faith traditions and cognitive science. Since our launch in 2023, we've been dedicated to exploring the nuances of dark nights and deconstructions, but our journey expanded to include insights from a diverse array of modern-day thinkers and artists. Through a blend of stories, practices, and perspectives, we provide valuable guidance for fellow travelers navigating their own liminal spaces. So, join us as we embark on this journey and embrace the uncertainty in order to uncover the hidden wisdom that lies within the liminal spaces of life.