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Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Chai & Conversation
205 episodes
1 week ago
Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation teaches you conversational Persian in a fun and casual manner in weekly lessons of about 15-20 minutes each. Check out our website chaiandconversation.com for more information.
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Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation teaches you conversational Persian in a fun and casual manner in weekly lessons of about 15-20 minutes each. Check out our website chaiandconversation.com for more information.
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Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Speak Lesson 70 | Thanking a Shopowner

In this lesson, we learn some more expressions for expressing thanks, particularly in the context of visiting a jewelry store or other shop and making arrangements in advance.

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1 week ago
13 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Interview | Growing Up Irooni - Nilo Tabrizy on the Cost of Telling Iran’s Story

In this episode of Growing Up Irooni, journalist Nilo Tabrizy joins Leyla Shams to talk about her groundbreaking book For the Sun After Long Nights — The Story of Iran’s Women-Led Uprising, recently long-listed for the National Book Award.
Nilo reflects on what it means to love a country she can no longer return to, the emotional toll of reporting on Iran from afar, and her friendship and collaboration with Iranian journalist Fatemeh Jamalpour, who reported from inside Iran during the Women Life Freedom movement.

Together they discuss:

  • The personal cost of choosing to tell Iran’s story

  • The rise of forensic journalism and verifying truth in the digital age

  • The trauma and beauty of living between worlds

  • The responsibility and tensions within the Iranian diaspora

  • Why every act of defiance by Iranian women still matters


This conversation offers a rare glimpse into the human side of reporting on revolution, identity, and belonging.


🔗 Related Links

  • 📖 For the Sun After Long Nights by Nilo Tabrizy & Fatemeh Jamalpour → Book Link 

  • 🎧 Listen to Nilo Tabrizy on Pod Save America → [Episode Link]

  • 📰 Follow Nilo Tabrizy’s work → Instagram @badboystomeninblackhawkdown | X @NiloTabrizi

  • 📺 Watch the video interview on YouTube → YouTube Link to Full Conversation

  • 🌸 Learn Persian with Leyla Shams → chaiandconversation.com
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1 week ago
1 hour 6 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Speak Lesson 69 | Giving Thanks

In this lesson, we learn some other tārof-related expressions for expressing thanks, especially when talking to people at a party or other social gathering.

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2 weeks ago
17 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Speak Lesson 68 | Talking with a Neighbor

In this lesson, we learn a few more tārof-related expressions useful when talking with neighbors and also learn some useful phrases about gardening.

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3 weeks ago
17 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Speak Lesson 67 | How to Talk About School

In this lesson, we learn how to talk a little bit about school.

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4 weeks ago
17 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Speak Lesson 66 | Tārof When Welcoming Guests

In this lesson, we continue to explore examples of tārof relevant in situations where we have guests at our houses.

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1 month ago
29 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Culture | Ferdowsi's Shahnameh, Part 5

In this lesson, we cover the thrilling conclusion to the Story of Zal in the Shahnameh with Leyla and Dr. Sahba Shayani, where Zal returns with Sam to their palace in Zabulistan, where he enjoys a hero's welcome.

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1 month ago
23 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Culture | Ferdowsi's Shahnameh, Part 4

In this lesson, we continue our discussion of Ferdowsi's Shahnameh with Dr. Sahba Shayani to the fourth part of the Story of Zal, where Simorgh reunites Zal with his father, Sam.

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1 month ago
19 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Culture | Ferdowsi's Shahnameh, Part 3

In this lesson, we continue our discussion of Ferdowsi's Shahnameh with Dr. Sahba Shayani to the third part of the Story of Zal, where Sam begins to have dreams that inspire him to search for the son he had previously abandoned.

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2 months ago
14 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Culture | Ferdowsi's Shahnameh, Part 2

In this lesson, we continue our discussion of Ferdowsi's Shahnameh with Dr. Sahba Shayani to the second part of the Story of Zal, where Simorgh spots the abandoned baby.

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2 months ago
15 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Culture | Ferdowsi's Shahnameh, Part 1

In this lesson, we begin our discussion of Ferdowsi's Shahnameh with Dr. Sahba Shayani. We specifically begin covering the first part of the Story of Zal in the Shahnameh.

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2 months ago
27 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Interview | From Oklahoma to Shahnameh: Daniel Nayeri, Author of Everything Sad is Untrue on Memory, Myth and Belonging

In this deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation, Daniel Nayeri, author of the acclaimed autobiographical novel Everything Sad is Untrue, talks about growing up as an Iranian refugee in Oklahoma, the mythic structure of memory, and the stories we inherit—true or not. He reflects on what it means to carry generational trauma, how he began writing the book in a Brooklyn bathroom, and the long journey of learning to tell his family’s story with emotional honesty.

We discuss the magic of Persian storytelling traditions, from Shahnameh to Khosrow and Shirin, why he originally wrote the book for adults, and how his father reacted to seeing himself as a character on the page. Daniel also shares a preview of his newest novel, The Teacher of Nomadland, a literary adventure set in WWII-era Iran, and why he wanted to sneak a Farsi lesson into the heart of it.

This episode is for anyone who’s ever tried to make sense of a fractured past—and found something beautiful in the pieces.


📚 Related Links

  • Everything Sad is Untrue by Daniel Nayeri (Amazon):
    https://www.amazon.com/Everything-Sad-Untrue-True-Story/dp/1646140001

  • The Teacher of Nomadland (Preorder):
    https://www.chroniclebooks.com/products/the-teacher-of-nomadland


  • Daniel Nayeri on Instagram:
    https://www.instagram.com/danielnayeri

  • Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation:
    https://chaiandconversation.com


  • Daniel's publisher:
    https://www.levinequerido.com/daniel-nayeri
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2 months ago
1 hour 28 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Poetry | Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, Part 6

In this final part of our discussion of Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, we cover the remaining lines, explaining how love transcends even existence on Earth and applies to the entire universe.

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3 months ago
15 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Poetry | Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, Part 5

In this fifth part of the discussion of Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, we cover the two more lines that describe the life-giving nature of love.

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3 months ago
10 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Speak Lesson 65 | Tārof at a Gallery

In this lesson, we learn some examples of tārof appropriate for talking to older people and see some examples in a conversation at an art gallery.

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3 months ago
11 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Interview | Growing Up Irooni – Tara Grammy, An Iranian Take on Identity, Comedy, and Being All Up in Your Business

In this laugh-out-loud and deeply personal conversation, Iranian Canadian actor, writer, and creator Tara Grammy joins Leyla to talk about growing up as an Iranian weirdo, navigating diaspora identity, creating her hit comedy series Soosi Lee, and embracing curiosity (aka being fusooli) as a cultural superpower. From getting discovered by Woody Harrelson in a tiny Toronto theatre to producing a DIY Iranian Borat-meets-Cribs series in LA, Tara's story is as inspiring as it is hilarious.

She shares her journey through acting, motherhood, cultural expectations, language guilt, and the power of telling your own story—even when no one gives you permission.


🔗 Related Links:


  • 📺 Watch Foozooli: https://www.instagram.com/taragrammy

  • 🎥 Simple Wedding (film): IMDb

  • 📝 Tara’s Harper’s Bazaar essay: Joyful Rebellion – Harper’s Bazaar

  • 📚 Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation: https://www.chaiandconversation.com

  • 🎧 Follow Tara on Instagram: @taragrammy

📣 Connect with Us:

  • Follow Growing Up Irooni on Instagram: @chaiandconversation
  • Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
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3 months ago
58 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Poetry | Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, Part 4

In this fourth part of the discussion of Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, we cover the next two lines in detail, regarding the indispensability of love.

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3 months ago
13 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Speak Lesson 64 | Meeting New People

In this lesson, we learn some more expressions we can use when meeting new people and a new expression related to tārof.

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3 months ago
26 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Poetry | Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, Part 3

In this third part of the discussion of Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, we cover the next two lines in detail, beginning to contemplate the importance of love to all human beings.

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3 months ago
12 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Speak Lesson 63 | Meeting Up with Friends

In this lesson, we learn some useful expressions for talking with friends or people we know, especially people who we haven't seen in a long time.

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3 months ago
31 minutes

Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation teaches you conversational Persian in a fun and casual manner in weekly lessons of about 15-20 minutes each. Check out our website chaiandconversation.com for more information.