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Intrinsically Ordered

Cade Bradley

55 episodes

4 weeks ago

My infographic about this case: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a6-vYf6qIZ8r9xS3G_dRGTaF6qi-hOVK/view?usp=sharing A new “victim” has entered the culture war stage at the Supreme Court. After the “No Cake” baker and the “No Website” designer, meet “No Therapy” Kaley— a Christian counselor recruited by well-funded right-wing legal groups to challenge Colorado’s bipartisan ban on conversion therapy for minors. In this episode, I break down the Salazar case, the PR tactics behind it, and the d...

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My infographic about this case: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a6-vYf6qIZ8r9xS3G_dRGTaF6qi-hOVK/view?usp=sharing A new “victim” has entered the culture war stage at the Supreme Court. After the “No Cake” baker and the “No Website” designer, meet “No Therapy” Kaley— a Christian counselor recruited by well-funded right-wing legal groups to challenge Colorado’s bipartisan ban on conversion therapy for minors. In this episode, I break down the Salazar case, the PR tactics behind it, and the d...

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Episodes (20/55)

Intrinsically Ordered

How the Right-Wing Is Bringing Back Conversion Therapy Through The Supreme Court (Chiles v Salazar)

My infographic about this case: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a6-vYf6qIZ8r9xS3G_dRGTaF6qi-hOVK/view?usp=sharing A new “victim” has entered the culture war stage at the Supreme Court. After the “No Cake” baker and the “No Website” designer, meet “No Therapy” Kaley— a Christian counselor recruited by well-funded right-wing legal groups to challenge Colorado’s bipartisan ban on conversion therapy for minors. In this episode, I break down the Salazar case, the PR tactics behind it, and the d...

2 months ago

23 minutes

Intrinsically Ordered

Religious Trauma Therapist On Identity, Self Sabotage, and Queer Identity After Religion (SC Nealy)

On this episode of The Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with SC Neely—therapist, author of 30+ books, and specialist in religious trauma and queer/trans identity. We explore the real signs of religious trauma, how it overlaps with complex PTSD, and the unique challenges queer people face when deconstructing from high-control religious environments. We cover the roadmap from questioning to deconstruction to rebuilding identity, how trauma shows up in the body, why labels can feel ove...

2 months ago

1 hour 16 minutes

Intrinsically Ordered

I Left the Catholic Church (Online Radicalization, The Latin Mass, and Finding Meaning Without God)

In this episode, I share my raw and personal journey through Catholicism—from being raised in a suburban Catholic family to becoming an intense religious fundamentalist who nearly entered a monastery. I explain what it was like to give every waking moment to prayer, theology, and the dream of becoming a monk, only to have my life upended when I was rejected for being gay. What followed was a painful process of leaving not just Catholicism, but religion itself. I open up about the collapse of...

2 months ago

1 hour 2 minutes

Intrinsically Ordered

Catholic Mass & Drag Brunch: Community Meaning-Making Rituals (w/ Co-Host Colin)

What happens when you attend a traditional Latin Catholic Mass in the morning and a drag brunch in the afternoon? Surprisingly, these seemingly opposite worlds share more than you’d expect. In this episode, we unpack seven parallels between Catholic liturgy and drag performance—from ritual and belonging to performance, morality, and meaning. For us, this isn’t about mockery. It’s about understanding how humans create community, how rituals give us identity, and how art—whether sacred chant or...

2 months ago

1 hour 3 minutes

Intrinsically Ordered

'Help, My Loved One Joined Fundamentalist Catholicism' - How to React with @LeaveLaughLove

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, Evelyn from @leavelaughlove joins me to tackle one of the hardest questions we get asked: how do you talk to loved ones who are falling into fundamentalist Catholicism? We unpack: Why people get drawn into high-control religious groups How to maintain healthy boundaries without burning bridges Why “debating” rarely changes minds Compassionate approaches that keep relationships intact When it’s okay to let go Whether it’s your child, spo...

3 months ago

1 hour 15 minutes

Intrinsically Ordered

“I Followed Every Catholic Marriage Rule… Until I Realized the Harm" - An Ex-Catholic Wife's Story

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I sit down with Isabelle, who grew up immersed in traditional Catholicism—daily rosaries, novenas, and all. Over time, she shifted toward progressive Catholicism before beginning a slow and painful unraveling of belief. We talk about mental health, OCD masked as virtue, the reality of Catholic marriage and NFP, gender and sexuality, and the psychological manipulation baked into so many teachings. Isabelle shares how motherhood, philosophy, and her rel...

3 months ago

1 hour 1 minute

Intrinsically Ordered

How the Left Can Win Debates - Actual Jubilee Participants Talk About Their Experience

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I'm joined by Greg and Oliver—two seasoned left-wing voices who’ve appeared on Jubilee, the Whatever podcast, and in brutal six-hour debates with professional sexists, racists, and homophobes. Together, we unpack the ethics of debate, how to survive the emotional toll, what it’s like to be in the room with Jordan Peterson or Michael Knowles, and why the left can’t afford to stay silent anymore. Whether you're thinking of joining a debate or just curio...

4 months ago

1 hour 51 minutes

Intrinsically Ordered

Gay, Catholic, and OnlyFans Star: Darian Black's Story of Reconciling Faith and Sexuality

I sat down with Darian, a gay creator who once wanted to be a Catholic priest and now runs an OnlyFans—while still attending Mass. We talked about scrupulosity, being queer in the church, spirituality beyond dogma, and the surprising peace he found in ritual. Darian's story is messy, funny, thoughtful, and deeply honest—and it challenges what it means to be both gay and Catholic in a polarized world. You can follow Darian on instagram and tikTok - https://www.instagram.com/darianblackofficia...

4 months ago

52 minutes

Intrinsically Ordered

Two Atheists Go to a Latin Mass - Behind @HeliocentricOfficial's 'Atheist Church Audit'

Jared from Heliocentric joins me to talk about his experience attending a Latin Mass for the first time and what it reveals about the explosive growth of Rad Trad Catholicism online. We dive into the aesthetics, the online media machine, the psychology of conversion, and how social media fuels religious radicalization. We also reflect on sexuality, the pain of being gay in the Church, and our shared experiences with Jordan Peterson. This one goes deep. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00...

4 months ago

2 hours 38 minutes

Intrinsically Ordered

Dialogue: Does the Bible Condemn Homosexuality? Catholic Apologist vs Gay Atheist

In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I’m joined again by Noah from Jesus and Whatnot for part two of our deep-dive into what the Bible says—or doesn’t say—about homosexuality. As a gay atheist and former almost-priest, I argue that the biblical texts don’t clearly address modern queer relationships. Noah, now a confirmed Catholic, brings the counterpoint: that Scripture plainly condemns all homosexual intercourse. We cover Leviticus, Romans, Paul’s invented Greek words, death...

4 months ago

1 hour 20 minutes

Intrinsically Ordered

Coming Out As Gay In Canadian Catholic Hockey Culture - @bradyvandruenen's Story

I got to sit down with @bradyvandruenen55 , a former Catholic school student and hockey player from small-town Canada, to hear his powerful story of growing up gay in a conservative Catholic environment. We dive into Catholic sex ed, hockey locker room culture, the mental gymnastics of trying to be someone you're not, and what it was like to finally break free and come out. This one’s for anyone who’s ever felt trapped by faith, family, or fear. You can follow Brady on: Youtube: ...

4 months ago

48 minutes

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The Ultimate Guide to Coming Out - A Philosopher's Perspective

This is the ultimate guide to coming out—philosophically, practically, and personally. Whether you’re just starting to question your identity, preparing for your first conversation, or figuring out how to rebuild your life after coming out, this video is for you. As someone who almost became a Catholic priest and now helps coach others through the coming out process, I’ve condensed everything I know—from identity labels to safety planning, to navigating family, faith, and fear—into this one ...

5 months ago

33 minutes

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Being Gay At The Most Conservative Catholic Universities - Newman Guide - @leavelaughlove

In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, Cade chats with Evelyn from Leave Laugh Love about the hidden world of Newman Guide colleges — those elite, ultra-conservative Catholic universities designed to "protect" young adults from the real world. Evelyn shares her experience attending Franciscan University, the cult-like enforcement of Catholic morality, the double lives queer students are forced to live, and the gaslighting that comes with leaving. We dive into everything from purity culture...

5 months ago

1 hour 24 minutes

Intrinsically Ordered

Eucharistic Miracles Are FAKE - Actual Scientist Review "Scientific Evidence" of Catholic Miracle Claims w/ @Nontradicath

Join the community and join the group discussion on discord: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad I’m joined by Kevin for a deep dive into one of Catholicism’s most emotionally compelling and scientifically dubious claims: Eucharistic miracles. You’ve heard the stories—bread turning into heart tissue, bleeding hosts, and baffled scientists—but how well do these claims hold up to scrutiny? Kevin walks us through the actual studies (or lack thereof), the role of contamination, misleading narra...

6 months ago

1 hour 16 minutes

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Why Jordan Peterson Made Me An Atheist

Jordan Peterson is famous for inspiring many to take religion seriously — but for me, he had the opposite effect. In this video, I walk you through how reading Maps of Meaning turned me from a devout Catholic who almost became a priest into an atheist — and how Peterson’s ideas unexpectedly helped me accept myself as a gay man. We'll dive into belief, metaphorical substrates, value hierarchies, meta-narratives, and why I eventually walked away from Peterson too. Strap in — it’s a journey. 00...

6 months ago

35 minutes

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debunking EVERY catholic apologetic argument - ex-catholic apologists

On today's episode, we react to a 27 page document that reports to take people from agnosticism to catholicism. Myself and Colin (ex-traditional catholics) debunk this document while getting an outsider's perspective from our friend Greg (never been very religious). Let's see how catholic apologetics play out to some experienced debaters and a fresh set of eyes. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 02:39 Discussion on Proving Religion 08:11 The Big Bang and God's Existence 09:30 Critique of ...

6 months ago

3 hours 21 minutes

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Was Pope Francis Really an LGBT Ally? A Critical Analysis

In this critical follow-up to our earlier reflections on Pope Francis’s passing, three gay ex-Catholics break down the truth behind the progressive myth. While headlines hail him as a revolutionary, we ask: did anything actually change for queer Catholics? From catechism clauses to conversion therapy, brunch with trans folks to doctrinal silence—this episode confronts the carefully curated optics of compassion. We’re not here to hate—just to tell the truth. What could have changed? What stay...

6 months ago

51 minutes

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Pope Francis LGBTQ Legacy? What He Did (and Didn’t Do) for Us

Pope Francis has passed—and within hours, I sat down with Justin from Empty Chairs for an off-the-cuff emergency podcast. As a gay ex-Catholic and a gay current Catholic, we unpack Pope Francis’s complicated legacy on LGBTQ issues. Did he really change anything? Did he do enough? Or was it all just nice-sounding words with no lasting impact? We talk about our own experiences inside the Church, from being denied vocations to being fired for our sexuality. We also dive into the real theologica...

6 months ago

50 minutes

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What Does Pope Francis' Death Mean for LGBT Catholics?

Pope Francis has passed. And as someone who was once on the path to becoming a conservative Catholic priest—and now lives openly as a gay man—his death hits hard. In this video, I break down what Pope Francis actually did for LGBTQ Catholics. From his famous “Who am I to judge?” to his quiet yet revolutionary support of queer ministries, this pope changed the vibe of the church, even if he never changed the doctrine. For outsiders, it may be hard to grasp how radical just saying “You are wel...

6 months ago

9 minutes

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the STRANGEST anti-gay philosophical arguments I've ever heard - w/ @Kenapologeticscatholic

In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with Minh ( @Kenapologeticscatholic ) a Catholic apologist and street evangelist, for one of the most intense and philosophical debates I’ve had on the show. We dive deep into the question of homosexuality from Catholic, secular, and philosophical angles—covering everything from natural law, metaethics, and sexual ethics to kink, bestiality, and gender abolition. As a queer ex-Catholic, I challenge Minh on the idea...

6 months ago

1 hour 23 minutes