Pablos built one of the first decentralized money networks, the first experimental Blue Origin rockets, one of the first handheld computers, invented 1000s of new patents with Nathan Myhrvold, and most recently launched a deeptech venture firm called Deep Future. And now, on July 12, expect his book: "Deep Future".
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Pablos Holman and Amol on Deep Future
Amol Sarva: [00:00:00] On today's episode, I'm excited to have my pal, Pablo Coleman from the future. Are we rolling? We are rolling. Right on. Bob, are we rolling? Bob? And we're gonna talk about, I don't know I think we should talk about a little bit of origin story before we get to the fund and the new book that's coming out.
And I'm excited to be the first interviewer Yeah. That you've chosen to speak to
Pablos Holman: about your freshly. Finalized manuscript. We're gonna turn the tables. I'm gonna have you on my podcast sometime too. Yeah, that'd be great. Apparently you have, we should
Amol Sarva: have done right now, apparently you have hundreds
Pablos Holman: of listeners, I dunno, hundreds or thousands here.
Here. Not hundreds of thousands
Amol Sarva: Here on this podcast we have the two of us who will listen to it be recorded. Hey, I'm
Pablos Holman: cool with that. I once had a radio show in Alaska and we had a full studio and we broadcast. But we had no antenna. The station had no antenna, but we had 24 hour a day broadcasting. So imagine like how esoteric and weird the DJs for a radio station are that have no listeners.
Yeah. Like we had the best [00:01:00] parties.
Amol Sarva: Yeah. Wow. Then I guess let us begin then with the origin stories. Cool. You were born in Alaska? Apparently. I was born in
Pablos Holman: Alaska. Yeah. It's hard to find an Alaskan who's escaped from Alaska, but I'm one of 'em, I've literally never met anyone who's from Alaska.
I know. Yeah. They make it about as far as Seattle and then they really feel like they've traveled and then they usually go back to Alaska. Very few Alaskans make it this far. So you made it to the great capital of Seattle across the I left Alaska, I went to Silicon Valley and then ended up, yeah, after the.com collapse, I retreated to Seattle.
And but that was good. And Seattle was really good for a long time. Now I'm over it.
Amol Sarva: I, part of part of what's really cool about that experience, or at least that I quite admire, is you got to work with some of the real. Intellectual rock stars of the tech world. Certainly yeah, in the, I guess it would've been the two thousands, roughly.
Yeah.
Pablos Holman: Yeah. After Silicon Valley I went to work I went to Seattle and I started Blue Origin or helped start Blue Origin with Jeff Bezos. Yeah. [00:02:00] And so that was great for me and an inflection point where I took all of the experience of bringing computer technology to life and trying to use the computers to bring other technologies to life.
And so that's what. What I think of as deep tech.
Amol Sarva: Yeah. But how'd you even so what was the Silicon Valley tour of duty then that I
Pablos Holman: started out computer hacking when I was a kid. So when I was in Silicon Valley, it was really about trying to, use the, that skillset to bring new technologies.
And, in the late, in the, like late eighties and early nineties, it was really just take computers into every industry for the first time. But then, once we started putting Muggles on the internet in 94, then I realized, oh shit, this is not gonna go very well. We need to secure things.
So I started working on cryptographic protocols, trying to secure the internet. I worked on cryptocurrency in the nineties. Oh. And a precursor, flus or whatever. No, not that good. Flus is not a cryptocurrency. Flus was a. I guess you could say like digital currency, but No, I was [00:03:00] trying, small group of fringe wackos, cipher p
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