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In AI We Trust?
Miriam Vogel
115 episodes
6 days ago
In AI We Trust? is a podcast with Miriam Vogel of EqualAI that amplifies leaders and voices from across society who are defining, developing, and deploying AI best practices across government, industry, academia, and civil society. In each episode, Miriam sits down with guests to demystify the technology, discuss the importance of AI governance and AI literacy, and spark conversations about people’s hopes, fears, and opportunities in an AI-shaped future.
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In AI We Trust? is a podcast with Miriam Vogel of EqualAI that amplifies leaders and voices from across society who are defining, developing, and deploying AI best practices across government, industry, academia, and civil society. In each episode, Miriam sits down with guests to demystify the technology, discuss the importance of AI governance and AI literacy, and spark conversations about people’s hopes, fears, and opportunities in an AI-shaped future.
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In AI We Trust?
Governing the Machine Book Launch – Miriam Vogel, Paul Dongha, and Ray Eitel-Porter

HOT OFF THE PRESSES: In this special episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel is joined by her two co-authors of Governing the Machine: How to navigate the risks of AI and unlock its true potential, Dr. Paul Dongha, Head of Responsible AI and AI Strategy at NatWest Group, and Ray Eitel-Porter, Accenture Luminary and Senior Research Associate at the Intellectual Forum, Jesus College, Cambridge, to launch their new book released TODAY (October 28, 2025). Miriam, Paul, and Ray share their motivation for writing the book, some of the big takeaways on AI governance, why it is for companies and consumers alike, and what they hope readers will learn from their book. We hope that you enjoy this episode, and please be sure to purchase a copy of Governing the Machine at the link above! And share your feedback at contact@equalai.org! 


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6 days ago
40 minutes

In AI We Trust?
Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, on Leading The Atlantic through the “AI Hurricane Coming Through”

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel sits down with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, for a fascinating discussion about the “AI hurricane coming through” and how he sees the role of journalists when it comes to reporting on new technological developments and promoting AI literacy. During the episode, Nicholas shares his wish list of AI policies and regulations, the most interesting thing in tech he has seen recently, his thoughts on the most important things people should be paying attention to as they work to understand new developments in the AI space, and much, much more.

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2 weeks ago
40 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 13: Steven Overly (POLITICO) and Miriam Vogel (EqualAI): AI and the Changing Tech Landscape - A Reporter’s View

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel interviews Steven Overly, host of POLITICO Tech’s weekly podcast and editorial director of POLITICO Live. Steven shares highlights from POLITICO’s 2025 AI & Tech Summit and his thoughts on how the tech landscape has changed since he first started reporting on it as a journalist. Steven and Miriam also touch on topics including AI in government, AI and the workforce, and how to bring nuance into conversations around AI and ensure that more people are included in conversations about how it will impact their lives.

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1 month ago
40 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 12: the World Economic Forum’s Daniel Dobrygowski and Karla Yee Amezaga

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, cohosts Miriam Vogel and Nuala O’Connor speak with Daniel Dobrygowski, Head of Governance and Trust at the World Economic Forum (WEF), and Karla Yee Amezaga, Initiatives Lead for AI and Data Governance with WEF’s Centre for AI Excellence about the importance of building trust in technology, strengthening AI and digital literacy, and modernizing boards to be fit for purpose for the modern era. They discuss EqualAI’s and WEF’s  new playbooks, including WEF’s Playbook on Advancing Responsible AI Innovation and EqualAI’s new AI Governance Playbook. Find the WEF Playbook here and EqualAI’s AI Governance Playbook here.


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1 month ago
46 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 11: Adam Thierer on AI, Innovation & Tech Policy

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, cohosts Miriam Vogel and Nuala O’Connor are joined by Adam Thierer, resident senior fellow @ R Street's Tech & Innovation team. Adam weighs in on the Trump Administration’s AI Action Plan, the importance of Congress in developing AI policy, and existing legal principles and practices that help define the new digital and AI age. They focused on the mandate for AI literacy, as well as the necessity of AI technologies being regulated in a transparent and trustworthy way that end users, and particularly consumers, can understand.


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3 months ago
58 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 10: Angie Cooper’s Call to Action for the Heartland

In Episode 10 of the In AI We Trust? AI Literacy series, Angie Cooper’s Call to Action for the Heartland, Miriam Vogel talks with Angie Cooper, President and Chief Operating Officer of Heartland Forward, to explore how artificial intelligence (AI) can accelerate economic growth across America’s Heartland. The discussion follows Heartland Forward’s recent annual Heartland Summit, the data-driven insights that inform their mission, and their partnership with Stemuli to create a first-of-its-kind AI literacy video game to promote AI learning for rural students. Angie stresses the importance of increasing access to AI by expanding affordable, high-speed internet and building trust with AI platforms through education initiatives and open conversations with teachers and employers. This episode explores how AI can be utilized as a tool to benefit small businesses, prepare students for the workforce, and advance jobs throughout the Heartland and beyond. 

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4 months ago
37 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 9: Robbie Torney of Common Sense Media & Special Co-host Nuala O’Connor

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, Miriam & Nuala speak with Common Sense Senior Director of AI Programs Robbie Torney to discuss AI's impact on children, families, and schools, focusing on AI literacy, which builds upon media and digital literacy. Robbie advises parents to engage in tech conversations with curiosity and empathy and encourages educators to view AI as a tool to enhance learning, noting students' prevalent use. Common Sense Media provides AI training and risk assessments for educators. Torney aims to bridge digital divides and supports AI implementation in underserved schools, highlighting risks of AI companions for vulnerable youth and developing resources for school AI readiness and risk assessments. The episode stresses the importance of AI literacy and critical thinking to navigate AI's complexities and minimize harm.


The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy. Featuring prominent leaders in the technology, education, and governance fields, this special series provides listeners with valuable insights and discussions around AI’s impact on society, leading efforts in this area of AI literacy, and how listeners can benefit from these experts and tools.


Related Resources

  • Episode Blog Post
  • AI Risk Assessments
  • AI Basics for K–12 Teachers
  • Parents’ Ultimate Guide to AI Companions and Relationships
  • 2025: The Common Sense Census
  • 2024: The Dawn of the AI Era
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4 months ago
1 hour 9 minutes

In AI We Trust?
SPECIAL EDITION A Pre-Summit Conversation With Van Jones

In this special episode of In AI We Trust?, recorded live at the launch of the EqualAI C-Suite Summit in Washington, D.C., host Miriam Vogel sits down with the dynamic Van Jones — acclaimed social entrepreneur, innovator, and tech evangelist. Together, they dive into a thought-provoking conversation about how AI can be a  transformative force for opportunity creation. With his trademark clarity and conviction, Van offers a hopeful vision for the future of A— one that empowers communities and drives societal progress, but only if we lead with the right values and policies at this critical moment.


Related Resources

  • Dream Machine AI x Library Project
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5 months ago
16 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 7: Open Source Under Threat: Andrew Ng Issues a Call to Action

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, Dr. Andrew Ng joins co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman to discuss AI literacy and the need for widespread AI understanding. Dr. Ng makes a call to action that everyone should learn to code, especially with AI-assisted coding becoming more accessible. The episode also addresses AI fears and misconceptions, highlighting the importance of learning about AI for increased productivity and potential career growth. The conversation further explores AI's potential for positive large-scale social impact, such as in climate modeling, and the challenges of conveying this potential amidst widespread fears across the general public. The discussion addresses AI's potential for social good, the urgent need for AI education and upskilling, and the complexities of AI integration in education. This important episode underscores Andrew, Miriam & Rosalind’s belief in the transformative potential of AI when individuals are empowered to manage, adapt and build with it, fostering innovation across various sectors and in user’s daily lives.

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6 months ago
53 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 6: Bridging the Gap Between Technology and Communities with Susan Gonzales

This episode of In AI We Trust? features co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman continuing their AI literacy series with Susan Gonzales, CEO of AIandYou. The discussion centers on the critical need for basic AI literacy within marginalized communities to create opportunities and prevent an "AI divide." Susan emphasizes overcoming fear, building foundational AI knowledge, and understanding AI's impact on jobs and small businesses. She stresses the urgency of AI education and AIandYou's role in providing accessible resources.  The episode highlights the importance of dialogue and strategic partnerships to advance AI literacy, ensuring that everyone can benefit from AI's opportunities before the "window" closes.

The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy. Featuring prominent leaders in the technology, education, and governance fields, this special series will provide listeners with valuable insights and discussions around AI’s impact on society, leading efforts in this area of AI literacy, and how listeners can benefit from these experts and tools.

Related Resources

  • Episode Blog Post
  • AIandYou
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7 months ago
51 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 5 with Judy Spitz: Fixing the Tech Talent Pipeline

Description: In this episode of In AI We Trust?, co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman speak with Dr. Judith Spitz, Founder and Executive Director of Break Through Tech sheds light on the blind spots within the industry, and discusses how Break Through Tech is pioneering innovative programs to open doors to talented individuals. She gets more young people from a broad array of backgrounds to study technology disciplines, ensures they learn leadership and other skills critical to their success, and gets them into industry- she is single-handedly building a more robust and prepared tech ecosystem.


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7 months ago
1 hour 15 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 4: Mason Grimshaw on AI Literacy and Data Sovereignty for Indigenous Communities

Mason Grimshaw: the Power of Identity, Community, and Representation

Description: Co-hosts of EqualAI’s AI Literacy Series, Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman are joined by Mason Grimshaw, data scientist at Ode Partners and VP at IndigiGenius. Grimshaw discusses his roots growing up on a reservation, and what led him to the field of AI. He explains why it’s his mission to bring AI education and tools back to his community. Grimshaw articulates how AI literacy is essential for Indigenous communities to ensure they retain data sovereignty and benefit from these game-changing tools.

Literacy Series Description: The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy. Featuring prominent leaders in the technology, education, and governance fields, this special series will provide listeners with valuable insights and discussions around AI’s impact on society, leading efforts in this area of AI literacy, and how listeners can benefit from these experts and tools.

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7 months ago
56 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 3: danah boyd on Thinking Critically about the Systems That Shape Us

Description: Co-hosts of EqualAI’s AI Literacy Series, Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman sit down with danah boyd, Partner Researcher at Microsoft Research, visiting distinguished professor at Georgetown, and founder of Data & Society Research Institute, to explore how AI is reshaping education, social structures, and power dynamics. boyd challenges common assumptions about AI, urging us to move beyond simplistic narratives of good vs. bad and instead ask: Who is designing these systems? What are their limitations? And what kind of future are we building with them?


Literacy Series Description: The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy. Featuring prominent leaders in the technology, education, and governance fields, this special series will provide listeners with valuable insights and discussions around AI’s impact on society, leading efforts in this area of AI literacy, and how listeners can benefit from these experts and tools.

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8 months ago
1 hour 15 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 2 with Dewey Murdick (CSET): Centering People in AI’s Progress

Description: In this episode of EqualAI’s AI Literacy Series, co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman sit down with AI policy expert Dewey Murdick, Executive Director at Georgetown's Center for Security and Emerging Technology (CSET) who shares his hopes for AI’s role in personal development and other key areas of society. From national security to education, Murdick unpacks the policies and international collaboration needed to ensure AI serves humanity first.

Literacy Series Description: The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy. Featuring prominent leaders in the technology, education, and governance fields, this special series will provide listeners with valuable insights and discussions around AI’s impact on society, leading efforts in this area of AI literacy, and how listeners can benefit from these experts and tools.

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8 months ago
40 minutes

In AI We Trust?
AI Literacy Series Ep. 1: What is AI and Why Are We Afraid of It?

Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman break down the basics, the limitations, the power, and the fear surrounding AI – and how you can transform it from a concept to a tool in the first episode of the In AI We Trust? AI Literacy series.

The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy. Featuring prominent leaders in the technology, education, and governance fields, this special series will provide listeners with valuable insights and discussions around AI’s impact on society, who is leading in this area of AI literacy, and how listeners can benefit from these experts.

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9 months ago
25 minutes

In AI We Trust?
Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD): Sen. Rounds' 2025 Message: Why Every Senate Committee is Talking AI This Congress

In this episode of #InAIWeTrust, Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) discusses the transformative role of AI and the Senate’s efforts to support its innovation and development. From working to advance AI-driven health care solutions to ensuring U.S. leadership in innovation, he shares legislative priorities and insights from the Senate AI Insight Forums and underscores the importance of AI literacy and collaboration across industry, reminding us: “AI is real, it’s here, it’s not going away.”

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9 months ago
30 minutes

In AI We Trust?
Vilas Dhar (McGovern Foundation): AI for the people and by the people: Year-in-Review and 2025 Predictions

In this 2024 year-end episode of In AI We Trust?, Vilas Dhar of the Patrick J. McGovern Foundation and Miriam Vogel of EqualAI review 2024 and discuss predictions for the year ahead. 

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10 months ago
36 minutes

In AI We Trust?
Elizabeth Kelly (AISI): How will the US AI Safety Institute lead the US and globe in AI safety?

In this episode of #InAIWeTrust Elizabeth Kelly, director of the U.S. Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute (AISI) explains the significance of last week’s National Security Memorandum (NSM) on AI, shares her experience working on the Biden Executive Order on AI, and provides insight into the US AISI including: recent guidance for companies to mitigate AI risks, partnerships with Anthropic and Open AI; the upcoming inaugural convening of International Network of AI Safety Institutes. 

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1 year ago
26 minutes

In AI We Trust?
Michael Chertoff (Chertoff Group) and Miriam Vogel (EqualAI): Is your AI use violating the law?

In this special edition of #InAIWeTrust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel and former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff sit down to discuss their recent co-authored paper, Is Your Use of AI Violating the Law? An Overview of the Current Legal Landscape. Special guest Victoria Espinel, CEO of BSA | The Software Alliance, moderates the conversation with the co-authors to explore key findings, current laws on the books, and potential liabilities from AI deployment and use that lawyers, executives, judges, and policy makers need to understand in our increasingly AI-driven world. 


The article can be found on our website here.

Read the Axios exclusive here.

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1 year ago
28 minutes

In AI We Trust?
Dr. Brennan Spiegel (Cedars-Sinai): AI in healthcare: Will AI help humans to thrive?

In this episode of #InAIWeTrust, Dr. Brennan Spiegel, Cedars-Sinai Director of Health Services Research and Chair of Digital Health Ethics, discusses his use of AI for increased efficiencies and to improve patient care, including co-founding Xaia, an AI mental health tool. He talks about the importance of human-centered design and how AI can enable doctors to better serve and care for patients. 


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1 year ago
22 minutes

In AI We Trust?
In AI We Trust? is a podcast with Miriam Vogel of EqualAI that amplifies leaders and voices from across society who are defining, developing, and deploying AI best practices across government, industry, academia, and civil society. In each episode, Miriam sits down with guests to demystify the technology, discuss the importance of AI governance and AI literacy, and spark conversations about people’s hopes, fears, and opportunities in an AI-shaped future.