In this episode of How I Met Your Data, Anjali and Junaid sit down with Tony Shaw, Founder & CEO of DATAVERSITY - the force behind Enterprise Data World (EDW) and DGIQ. Tony traces the early origins of a “metadata conference” that became a global learning platform, then gets candid about what actually moves the data profession forward: cycles, culture, and community. We dig into how conference content evolves (remember when data modeling was the headliner?), why governance remains a business function first, and how AI is reshaping both programming and the attendee experience; think smarter discovery of talks, better content matching, and, perhaps someday, intentional networking that beats hallway serendipity. Tony also shares the story behind DATAVERSITY’s Women in Data focus and why younger, more global audiences are changing the room—for the better. In this episode The origin story: buying a tiny “metadata” event and building DATAVERSITY into a global education platform Surviving economic cycles: training, travel, sponsorship, and how digital finally scaled during COVID What’s changed (and what hasn’t): the rise, fall, and return of semantics; AI’s pull on modeling and governance Governance as a business sport: why DGIQ draws nearly 50% of non-IT leaders Global signals: banks in Uruguay winning best-practice awards; Saudi Arabia’s push on data & AI capability AI at conferences: from content discovery to future attendee matchmaking (and the privacy guardrails we’ll need) Women in Data: mentorship, career design, and programming that’s open to everyone, but designed to meet real gaps You’ll like this if… You lead data/AI programs, run governance in the messy middle, or care about how our field learns—together. Also useful if you’re deciding whether to bring your non-data peers to a data conference (short answer: yes).

In this episode of How I Met Your Data Today, hosts Anjali and Junaid sit down with financial services industry veteran Julia Bardmesser about the significance of political capital in data leadership. Julia shares insights from her 25-year career, working across major institutions such as Bloomberg, Citi, Deutsche Bank, and Voya Financial, before founding her strategic advisory firm. She clarifies what political capital is (and isn't) and how it affects the ability to drive data and AI initiatives within organizations. The discussion covers identifying key relationships, managing obstructionists, the importance of high EQ, and tactical advice on when and how to spend political capital effectively. Julia emphasizes that delivering real value to the organization is the cornerstone of building lasting political capital. The conversation is filled with real-life examples and lessons learned, making it a must-listen for data professionals and leaders navigating corporate landscapes.

In this episode of The Prompt, hosts Anjali and Karen dive into the latest headlines about AI adoption and ROI, unpacking why 95% of AI pilots are reportedly failing while a select 5% succeed. Drawing parallels to the dot-com era, they explore the real reasons behind AI project failures, the importance of vendor partnerships, and the pitfalls of unrealistic expectations in proof-of-concept initiatives. The conversation highlights the need for clear business objectives, data governance, and a pragmatic approach to technology adoption. Tune in for candid insights, lessons learned, and a fresh perspective on what it really takes to drive value with AI in today’s organizations.

In this episode of The Prompt, Anjali, Karen and Junaid unpack the unsettling news that shared ChatGPT conversations—via the platform’s “share” feature—were indexed by Google, making sensitive prompts and personal details publicly searchable. Topics explored include: How the share link works, and why “public” really means public Why even seemingly benign prompts can build an unnervingly detailed profile of you The cultural differences in privacy expectations between the US and Europe—and why drones over your backyard might make you rethink your stance. The personal responsibility side of AI use: knowing what not to put into a chatbot. From governance implications to everyday “would you want your search history read out loud?” moments, this conversation is a reminder that in the digital age, once it’s out there, it’s out there.

In this episode of How I Met Your Data, hosts Anjali, Junaid, and guest Jay Krish dive deep into the rapidly evolving world of Agentic AI—a paradigm shift from rule-following automation to systems capable of autonomous decision-making. Jay, a seasoned financial services leader and AI thinker, breaks down what Agentic AI really is: a network of large language models working together to reason, adapt, and act independently toward a goal. Together, they explore: 🧠 How Agentic AI differs from traditional automation and ML 🚸 Why AI autonomy should be earned like parental trust—and the stages of building that maturity ⚖️ The escalating risk matrix: Who owns the risk when AI goes rogue? 🛡 Why human-in-the-loop design must persist, even in autonomous environments 🌎 The unspoken costs: environmental impact and the power-hungry infrastructure behind AI innovation 🔮 What the rise of agent-based systems means for the future workforce—and how to prepare for what's next Jay offers practical advice on getting started, reframing fear into forward motion, and bringing ethical, human-centered thinking into the AI build process. If you're curious about AI's next frontier, the risks and rewards of autonomous systems, and how to stay resilient in the face of transformation—this one's for you.

In this episode, Junaid reflects on the CDOIQ Symposium in Boston, emphasizing the overwhelming focus on AI, especially AI agents, and their impact on white-collar jobs. We discuss the immense value of networking at conferences and debate whether CDOs overemphasize data quality at the expense of other critical areas like culture and literacy. And finally, we explore where CDO's oversteer and what they under value. 

In this episode of The Prompt, Anjali, Karen and Junaid dig into a common and often overlooked issue in today’s data-driven landscape: the mismatch between maximizing data and realizing business value. The hosts unpack the pitfalls of prioritizing AI-readiness and data hoarding over understanding critical business needs. They challenge the popular notion that more data equals more value—highlighting how data volume often leads to complexity, redundancy, and unmet expectations if not tied to clear, relevant use cases. The conversation explores how leaders often equate value with quick wins and flashy dashboards, sidelining the needs of everyday users who are most impacted by these changes and least equipped to leverage them.

Vanessa Jones-Nyoni, Chief Data Officer at Commerzbank NY, joins How I Met Your Data to share her journey from Sierra Leone to the C-suite. We dive into the realities of modern data leadership in a highly regulated industry—balancing innovation with governance, wrangling unstructured data, and building a culture of AI and data literacy. Plus: what it's really like leading a lean team, the power of one-on-one influence, and the mission behind Women Data Professionals.

Welcome to The Prompt, a short-format minisode of How I Met Your Data, where hosts Junaid, Karen, and Anjali delve into the evolving landscape of data and AI. In this lively discussion, they explore the pivotal question of whether the Chief Data Officer (CDO) or Chief Data & AI Officer (CDAO) should report directly to a CEO, a CIO, or another C-level executive. Each host shares sharp insights based on their professional experience, addressing the challenges facing CDOs, such as their typically short tenures and the essential components required for their success. Throughout the episode, the trio touches on the significance of building a data-driven culture, assessing whether data should be seen as a cost center or a valuable asset, and the complexities of integrating data literacy within corporate strategy. They also tackle the important consideration of hiring CDOs from within the organization versus bringing in external change agents, weighing the benefits and drawbacks of each approach. Join them in this engaging conversation that challenges conventional wisdom and highlights the critical role data plays in defining today's business landscape.

What do knowledge graphs, beautiful wine, and the AI revolution have in common? According to Juan Sequeda, Principal Scientist at data.world and co-host of the popular Catalog & Cocktails podcast — everything. In this episode of How I Met Your Data, Juan joins Angela and Karen for an energizing, thought-provoking deep dive into why semantic data modeling is having its renaissance moment, what we’ve misunderstood about knowledge-first design, and how data governance might just be on the brink of being...cool?? From dishing on the history of data modeling’s pendulum swings to exploring how ontologies and entity-relationship diagrams can fuel AI effectiveness, Juan breaks it down with clarity, humor, and plenty of passion (plus a little wine talk for good measure 🍷). Tune in to hear: Why “data modeling” isn’t dead—it just went underground How semantic modeling helps LLMs deliver better, more accurate results The importance of pushing semantics left to reduce tech debt What makes a data product actually reusable (hint: not just pipelines) Why governance might finally be cool—and how to make it a true enabler, not a bottleneck Whether you're semantic-curious, governance-skeptical, or just trying to make sense of your enterprise data chaos, this is the episode that’ll have you rethinking your metadata strategy—and maybe even opening a bottle while you're at it. This one’s for the data dreamers, the AI realists, and everyone stuck in the modeling middle.

Join Junaid, Karen, and Anjali for a special episode of "The Prompt," where they dive into the latest trends in data and analytics. Discover insights into major tech mergers and acquisitions, such as ServiceNow's acquisition of Data.World and Salesforce's partnership with Informatica. Learn about the implications for data governance, vendor lock-in, and AI readiness in today's rapidly evolving market. Are we simply relabeling age-old challenges with new terminology, or are we on the brink of genuine innovation? Get ready for a thought-provoking conversation packed with industry insights.

Welcome to another episode of How I Met Your Data. This time, we’re getting real about the messy, meaningful journey of career evolution. Our guest, Angelique Hopkins, along with our own Karen Meppen, unpack the highs, lows, and hard-earned wisdom of navigating big career moves in the fast-changing world of Data & Analytics. We’re talking about more than just job titles. From navigating burnout to breaking out of career stagnation, Karen and Angelique share honest reflections on their careers, the risks they took, the pivots they made, and the self-awareness that fueled it all. We’ll also explore how AI is reshaping roles, why your network matters more than ever, and what it takes to thrive in a workforce that refuses to sit still. If you’re rethinking your next move or just need a dose of real talk, this episode brings the insight, heart, and just a bit of inspiration to help you take the leap. Let’s get into it.

Welcome to a new chapter of 'How I Met Your Data', where we dive deeper into the real stories behind the data with our new co-hosts, Karen Meppen and Junaid. This episode explores the intersections of data leadership, AI disruption, and culture shifts, while introducing Karen and Junaid's unique perspectives and experiences in the data world. Join us as we discuss the messy middle, transformation fatigue, and the never-ending journey of working with data. Karen shares her rich experience in optimizing processes through technology, and Junaid brings his prophetic insight into the evolving realm of AI. Together, they uncover the importance of data therapy sessions and talk about the exciting, albeit challenging, future of data management. This episode is a blend of personal stories, professional insights, and a sneak peek into the evolving landscape of data and technology. Get ready to explore why working with data is dynamic, challenging, and yet undeniably rewarding.

Welcome to another episode of "How I Met Your Data" with your hosts Sandy Estrada and Anjali Basal. Join us in this engaging conversation as we bid Sandy farewell on her new venture and welcome Rachel Moore Best, a renowned negotiation expert and lecturer at MIT. In this episode, Rachel shares her journey from music studies to becoming a negotiation specialist, emphasizing the significance of negotiation beyond the boardroom and into everyday life. Discover the power of negotiation in enhancing communication, collaboration, and influence within teams while navigating complex dynamics and decision-making. Perfect for data practitioners, engineers, or anyone interested in improving their negotiation skills, this episode is packed with insights and strategies that transcend typical negotiation boundaries.

Welcome to Season 2 of "How I Met Your Data," where hosts Sandy Estrada and Anjali Bansel dive into the dynamic world of data. In this episode, they chat with guest Carly Van Zandt, Senior Director of Data Governance at Fresenius Medical Care.  Carly shares her fascinating journey from biology to data governance, highlighting her innovative approach to demonstrating the ROI of governance efforts, even with a small team. Discover how Carly's unique methodology has transformed data practices and learn about the real-world examples she used to gain executive buy-in. Don't miss this insightful conversation on the impact of effective data governance.

Welcome to the season finale of "How I Met Your Data," where hosts Sandy Estrada and Anjali Bansal guide you through the dynamic world of data. In this episode, Sandy shares highlights from her recent sabbatical, exploring the breathtaking landscapes of Olympic National Park and the vibrant culture of Barcelona. Anjali recounts her own summer adventures in Yellowstone and Hilton Head, emphasizing the stunning beauty and wildlife of America's national parks. As they reflect on the season, Sandy and Anjali discuss listener engagement and the success of various episodes, highlighting insights from data-driven sports success to the evolving landscape of Gen AI technology.  Join Sandy and Anjali as they wrap up an incredible season, share personal stories, and look forward to new data adventures in the upcoming year. 

This episode of How I Met Your Data welcomes Dr. Elouise Epstein, a digital futurist, to discuss the often overlooked world of procurement. Listeners will learn what procurement is and why it's essential to business success. Dr. Epstein provides insights into the challenges that procurement teams face, including a lack of spend transparency, reliance on outdated technology, and the struggle to keep up with a rapidly evolving digital landscape. She also shares her vision for the future of procurement, where supply chains become a core competitive advantage, driven by data, AI, and a deep understanding of supplier relationships. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in data, technology, and the future of business.

Welcome to another episode of How I Met Your Data! In this episode, hosts Sandy Estrada and Anjali Bansal are thrilled to welcome Malcolm Hawker, a seasoned expert in data and analytics with over 25 years of experience. Currently the Chief Data Officer at Prophecy, Malcolm shares his insights on master data management and data governance. The episode kicks off with a discussion about the recent CDOIQ conference in Boston, where Anjali and Malcolm co-hosted a session. They delve into the topics covered during their session, emphasizing the need for transforming data culture within organizations. Malcolm highlights the importance of delivering value and shifting mindsets to foster a positive data culture. Listeners will gain valuable insights on how to prioritize collaboration, continuous engagement, and leveraging product management principles in data leadership. Malcolm also shares his thoughts on the future of data management, including the potential of data fabrics and governance as a service. Don't miss this engaging conversation filled with practical advice and forward-thinking perspectives on the evolving landscape of data and analytics.

This week, Anjali Bansal and Sandy Estrada, welcome Stefanie Gervasi, the Director of U.S. Partnerships and Alliances for Alation.  Alation is a leading provider of data cataloging and governance solutions designed to empower organizations to harness the power of their data effectively. In this episode, they dive into the intricate relationships between software companies, consulting firms, and data executives.  They also discuss the importance of partnerships, the role of consulting firms in guiding clients, and the critical factors for successful collaborations. Whether you're a data executive, a consulting firm, or a software vendor, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge to help you navigate the complex world of partnerships in data. Join us for an engaging conversation filled with practical advice and industry insights. 

This week, on How I Met Your Data Anjali and I have a special edition for you. We're going to debrief on the Snowflake Data Cloud Summit that took place just a couple of weeks ago. Joining us is Michael Cochrane, Cervelo's Global Data and Analytics Consulting Practice Leader, and a longtime colleague of mine.  We dive deep into the evolution of Snowflake, its impact on clients, and how it has transformed from a cloud-optimized data solution to a comprehensive platform supporting multi-cloud and real-time data needs. Mike also discusses the significance of governance, privacy, and cost management in today's data landscape. We explore the latest advancements and releases showcased at the summit, including Snowflake's partnership with NVIDIA and the push towards native apps and containerized services. The conversation also touches on the increasing complexity of data architectures and the importance of maintaining transparency and optionality in technology investments. Join us as we reflect on the exciting developments from the Snowflake Summit and discuss the future of data engineering, AI, and the ever-evolving role of technology in driving business value.