Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

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Matthew Ryan

21 episodes

1 week ago

From the Intergalactic Sports Network and Ember Media we bring you a new look at the history of Wrestling, Media, and Culture!

Join us for deep dives into the subjects, humans, and spectacles of American Society

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From the Intergalactic Sports Network and Ember Media we bring you a new look at the history of Wrestling, Media, and Culture!

Join us for deep dives into the subjects, humans, and spectacles of American Society

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Wrestling

History,

Sports

Episodes (20/21)

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

Consultants, Blackouts, and Broken Backs or the Rise Of The Superstar DJ

In this edition, we take a look at the first radio station and disc jockeys to play their own songs, the impact of consultants, and how much they kill creativity.

Also, a look at the origin story of WNEW, how they seized an opportunity when another station failed, and the story of a guy who broke his legs working in a uranium mine and then became the biggest name in radio by being the first shock jock, Don Imus.

Resources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WNEW-FM

https://www.nyradioarchive.com/wnewfm.html

https://nab.org/hof/inductees/donImus.asp

https://worfm.com/history.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2006/02/imus200602

https://books.google.com/books?id=D-kCAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA29#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://archive.org/details/everythingimusal0000reed/page/24/mode/2up

https://thebluze.com/2017/04/04/underground-radio-in-the-late-1960s/

https://www.nyradioarchive.com/audio/WNEWFM_GirlsJingle_NL.mp3

https://www.nyradioarchive.com/worfm.html

https://books.google.com/books?id=uVYEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://www.nyradioarchive.com/worfm.html

https://archive.org/details/wor-fm-98.7-nyc-first-fm-rock-station-1966

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/27/791955636/pioneering-shock-jock-don-imus-has-died-at-79

https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/biography/don-imus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Imus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eldridge_Cleaver

https://www.musicradio77.com/other/Rosko%20Resigns%20WOR-FM%2010-2-67.mp3

https://www.flicklives.com/index.php?pg=112&recno=6133

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Wonderful_Life

https://halloffame.nysbroadcasters.org/post/scott-muni

https://nyradioarchive.com/

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-sep-30-me-passings30.1-story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/30/arts/scott-muni-74-a-radio-dj-of-fm-rock-programming-dies.html

https://denniselsas.com/scott-muni/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Muni

https://www.radiohalloffame.com/scott-muni

https://radiodiscussions.com/threads/the-old-wnew-fm-record-library.549283/

https://www.musicradio77.com/other/WOR-FM-Muni-Michaels-10-8-66.mp3

https://topviewtix.com/new-york/new-yorks-broadcasting-history?srsltid=AfmBOorxS6wlZ244-tyGXgvT5Ug_rgtVIwA_w3ZfXFbMuVYPnPDAA4Hm

https://www.playlistresearch.com/ny-radiohistory.htm

https://nyradioarchive.com/audio/WNEWFM_197510_PF_CatOlsen.mp3

https://www.facebook.com/groups/278808429125814/posts/2312907445715892/

https://radiodiscussions.com/threads/early-1960s-nyc-am-radio.623044/

https://nyradioarchive.com/images/radioscans/WNEWFM_Ros_NYT19690105.jpg

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1 week ago

1 hour 9 minutes 55 seconds

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

David Sarnoff, The Titanic, And The Metatextual

The only way to tell the tale of radio in New York City is to look back... all the way back to over a century ago, as the concept of broadcast radio would be developed on the backs of a massive international tragedy, David Sarnoff being the reason we have culture and a culture war over the airwaves, and the philisophical question of how do you accurately cover a subject with a limited amount of worthwhile people?

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Resources

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GD6q-aRlFPlYVGJXKKvLQZltkQGk-0EcVOUbNN_lHac/edit?usp=sharing

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3 weeks ago

16 minutes 41 seconds

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

Prologue: Avalanche Of A**holes

Before we kick off season two of Historically Speaking, Matt Ryan provides us with a bit of prologue ahead of our deep dive into the history of radio in New York City.

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1 month ago

4 minutes 58 seconds

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

Hastily Put Together Wrestling Observer Hall Of Fame Ballot

With it being Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame season, our resident favorite Wrestling Historian/Blabbermouth runs through his unofficial ballot for the 2025 class!

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1 month ago

16 minutes 10 seconds

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

A New Series From Matt Ryan: A Place For My Stuff

Listen to Matt's new monthly/bi-monthly podcast where he tells you stories that come from inside his mind!

It's a literal place for his stuff!

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1 month ago

2 minutes 21 seconds

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

Nepobaby Vince McMahon Makes His Move As Wrestling Collapses: Season Finale

It's the season finale of Historically Speaking, and Matt Ryan lays out the case for why we are where we are now was inevitable, setting the through line from the fall of the IWA to 1982 as the Wrestling Establishment began to topple over like a Jenga puzzle.

Resources

Death Of The Territories: Tim Hornbaker

Capitol Revolution: Tim Hornbaker

The Solie Chronicles: Robert Allyn, Pamela Allyn, Scott Teal

National Wrestling Alliance: The Untold Story: Tim Hornbaker

Inside Out: How Corporate America Destroyed Pro Wrestling: Ole Anderson, Scott Teal

Ric Flair: The Last Real World Champion: Tim Hornbaker

Wrestling At The Chase: The Inside Story: Larry Matysik

The Cowboy And The Cross: Bill Watts

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1 month ago

28 minutes 31 seconds

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

Johnny Powers, The King Of Thebes, and The Death Of The IWA

In our penultimate episode of Season 1, we return to Johnny Powers as he touches down in the Carolinas to try and put out the fire that is the International Wrestling Association, as the Pro Wrestling Establishment becomes the Bacchae for the God known as the Status Quo, while at the same time one old God was cut down the expense of a newer and flashier model down in Tennessee.

Plus Matt breaks down what comes next for Historically Speaking as we line up our next TWO Seasons of Historically Speaking.

Resources

Jerry The King Lawler: It's Good To Be The King

Johnny Powers Interview: 57 Talk.com

https://www.kayfabememories.com/Regions/gcw/gcw22-2.htm

https://www.famousdaily.com/history/tbs-tv-ted-turner-superstation.html

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2 months ago

24 minutes 39 seconds

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

When It Rains In Jersey City, The IWA's Stand In New York

In what is sure to be our longest, most detailed, and most use of our production resources to date, we bring you the war as it sat between the IWA and the Pro Wrestling Establishment.

From the return of the 1956 Consent Decree, to Sam Muchnick crying poverty amid massive houses at the Kiel, the WWWF looking to combat Operation Hairy Hail Mary with Operation Molotov Cocktail, and it working... kinda?

Accounts and insight into the NWA's battle plans against the IWA in Florida and Georgia, as those old tactics come out to play.

We also go as in-depth as we can as the IWA finally touches down in the Tri-State Area, as we feature news coverage of the IWA's New Jersey and New York debuts... and it has to do with the New York Philharmonic and Don Imus hosting Miss Bare America.

References: Too many characters for a podcast description.... Link Below

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1knnhBsBdhEaRYqJaU2pwnUnxfoLra4JEJsimnNtrygc/edit?usp=sharing

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2 months ago

49 minutes 23 seconds

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

The Battle Of New York And Suspend Your Disbelief Theater: Episode 13

We go deeper into 1975 on the 13th edition of Historically Speaking, as IWA's TV continues to be a burr in Vince McMahon's heel and both sides play games in the press or politically on the road to the IWA's northeast debut inside Roosevelt Stadium in New Jersey.

We also debut "Suspend Your Disbelief Theater" as we go back to what we think may be July 5, 1975 as George "Crybaby" Cannon tries to convince George "The Animal" Steele to jump from the WWWF to the IWA and debut one day before he battles Bruno Sammartino at Madison Square Garden.

Resources

Capitol Revolution by Tim Hornbaker

Animal by George Steele

http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=064612

https://www.nyprowrestling.com/results/1970s/1975.html

https://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=bilanzen&wrestler=481&jahr=1975&monat=7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWcrOGeUcKc

https://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=shows&sort=liga&kategorie=8&liga=747&jahr=1975&monat=0&showart=&ansicht=0&seite=2

https://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=shows&show=179044

https://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=shows&sort=liga&kategorie=1&liga=3&jahr=1975&monat=0&showart=&ansicht=0&seite=5

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1329210375172091&set=a.726274668799001

https://x.com/doug_mcleer/status/1943303293293248894

http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=048601;p=0

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2 months ago

9 minutes 57 seconds

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

How did we not see it coming | The Seeds of National Expansion As IWA's ICW Premieres

After 11 episodes, we finally discuss matches and television that aired from IWA, spanning nearly three decades of context and over a dozen scenarios, brawls, and pseudo-national territories. Eddie Einhorn's dream becomes a reality.

From stealing TV Stations from Vince McMahon, Ted Turner's more than curious involvement, Thunderbolt Patterson's war on Jim Crockett Promotions, Jim Crockett Promotions saying he died,

YES, THEY SAY HE DIED, and more in this edition of Historically Speaking.

RESOURCES

Assassin by Joe Hamilton -Crowbar Press

https://www.newspapers.com/article/asheville-citizen-times-11-01-74-ashevil/6109094/

https://www.midatlanticgateway.com/2015/09/thunderbolt-patterson-guest-shots.html

https://prowrestlingstories.com/pro-wrestling-stories/ann-gunkel-nwa-battle-for-atlanta/

https://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=bios&wrestler=1580&bild=0&details=7&liga=1388&jahr=1974&seite=2

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https://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=shows&sort=liga&kategorie=8&liga=747&jahr=1976&monat=0&showart=&ansicht=0&seite=2

https://midatlanticwrestling.net/audio_files/ThemeMusic/thememusic_images/TVStations_1977.jpghttps://historyofwrestling.com/the-battle-for-atlanta/

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2 months ago

25 minutes 5 seconds

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

Koloff, Ladd, Mascaras, and the mystery man tapped to lead the IWA

With 1975 upon us, we look at the three wrestlers tasked with leading the top of the card in the IWA, along with some of the other burgeoning stars, regional icons, and longshot supernovas that would launch the first national wrestling promotion.

Plus a look at some of the territories that the IWA looked to take aim at, and some of the stars either ripe for the taking or waiting at the gates for the impending invaders.

Resources

https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=1139&page=4&s=900

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/sports/football/14ladd.html#

https://midatlanticwrestling.net/almanac/history/1975_02.htm

https://midatlanticwrestling.net/almanac/almanac_index.htm

https://midatlanticwrestling.net/almanac/roster/roster_7502.htm

https://www.cagematch.net/?id=8&nr=1936&page=4

https://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=shows&show=178965

https://www.thesmackdownhotel.com/roster/?promotion=gcw-georgia&date=1975

https://slamwrestling.net/index.php/2010/02/24/announcer-martinez-was-instrumental-in-iwa-video-world/

NFL Films

Wrestling Observer Newsletter

https://www.crowbarpress.com/cbp-books/04-ik-KINDLE.html

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3 months ago

26 minutes 31 seconds

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

Power Vacuums, Garden Envy, And The Men Who Tried To Kill WCW and WWE..in the 70s

Our return to Secret Wrestling History takes us to 1975, the end of Johnny Powers' run as a promoter... for now, as the Martinez's and Eddie Einhorn's IWA begins to take shape in a time where pro wrestling was in the midst of change, evolution, and for Vince McMahon Sr., a rare time of peace on top of promotional prosperity.

Resources

http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=1;t=124546

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3 months ago

25 minutes

Historically Speaking: Secret Wrestling History... with other stuff

Three Rings, Riots, and the secret history of New Japan Pro Wrestling

Our deep dive into the secret history of pro wrestling continues as Johnny Powers goes from top guy to top promoter in this chapter of the "first" national wrestling promotion. At the same time, Matt gets nostalgic about a "backyard" wrestling company that was just teenagers fighting on some random Brooklyn beach.

From Buffalo, To Cleveland, To Tokyo and beyond we look at the rise of Powers and Pedro Martinez' first joint effort, Powers putting on the first "Super Bowl" of Wrestling at Municipal Stadium, to Powers returning to heel form and setting off a riot, plus how Antonio Inoki won his first world championship nearly a decade before the IWGP would find it's way into the Lion's Den