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Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens
43 episodes
1 week ago
Send us a text In this episode, spooky season banter quickly gives way to a masterclass on interviewing for fire investigation: open-ended vs. leading questions, letting witnesses talk without interruption, taking notes without breaking rapport, and using scene walk-throughs to correct memory gaps and build timelines. We unpack subrogation in plain English, why early investigator deployment is value-add, and how to avoid bias from client synopses. Real cases include a mid-slope wildland start...
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Send us a text In this episode, spooky season banter quickly gives way to a masterclass on interviewing for fire investigation: open-ended vs. leading questions, letting witnesses talk without interruption, taking notes without breaking rapport, and using scene walk-throughs to correct memory gaps and build timelines. We unpack subrogation in plain English, why early investigator deployment is value-add, and how to avoid bias from client synopses. Real cases include a mid-slope wildland start...
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Episodes (20/43)
Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S.2 Ep.21- Forcing the Narrative During Interviews Can Burn Credibility.
Send us a text In this episode, spooky season banter quickly gives way to a masterclass on interviewing for fire investigation: open-ended vs. leading questions, letting witnesses talk without interruption, taking notes without breaking rapport, and using scene walk-throughs to correct memory gaps and build timelines. We unpack subrogation in plain English, why early investigator deployment is value-add, and how to avoid bias from client synopses. Real cases include a mid-slope wildland start...
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1 week ago
1 hour 5 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S.2 Ep.20- Discussing Quantify vs. Qualify, Error Rates, Courtroom Tactics & Training Updates
Send us a text In this episode Chasity and Scott dig into how real-world investigators apply NFPA 921 on scene and on the stand—focusing on why we qualify conclusions (not quantify them), how to express confidence without the discredited “reasonable degree of scientific certainty,” and practical ways to navigate internal and external pressure during origin-and-cause work. You’ll also hear quick takes on PAPRs in the field (battery life, full-face vs. half-mask), what’s new on the training cal...
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3 weeks ago
47 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
EmberCast 2- Project Fire Buddies: How Firefighters Are Supporting Children & Family Beyond the Call
Send us a text In this Embercast episode, brought to you by the Fire Investigation INFOCUS Podcast, hosts Chasity Owens and Scott Kuhlman sit down with Illinois firefighters and investigators Bob and Zig to discuss Project Fire Buddies — a powerful nonprofit connecting fire departments with families of children facing chronic or life-threatening illnesses. What began as one firefighter’s compassionate gesture has grown into a nationwide movement with 150+ chapters across 14 states, bringing ...
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4 weeks ago
19 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S.2 Ep.19- Passing the Torch: Past President Tim Morris Jr. & President Brad Pierson on Leading Illinois IAAI
Send us a text In this episode, Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens recap a high-energy week teaching “AI for Fire Investigators” with the Illinois Chapter of the International Association of Arson Investigators in Peoria—what they changed from earlier classes, why transparent prompting and hands-on tools boosted engagement, and how they’ll evolve live demos next time. They unpack a standout burn-cell scenario where a clean-burn sat feet away from the true area of origin, using it to highlight ho...
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1 month ago
59 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S.2 Ep.18- Breaking down Fire Patterns with Case Studies.
Send us a text Welcome back to Fire Investigation in Focus! In this episode, hosts Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens dive deep into the world of fire patterns, fire effects, and origin determination, bringing both practical field experience and NFPA 921 insights straight to your headphones. We kick things off by introducing Ember Casts—shorter, 10–20 minute mini-episodes designed to drop in between full shows, offering a “little ember of knowledge, big flames of understanding.” These quick hits...
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1 month ago
1 hour 12 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
EmberCast 1 - Mapping the Future of Wildland Fire Investigation ft. Founder & CEO of EchoSpectra, Jesse Sprague
Send us a text Welcome to the very first EmberCast, a new short-form addition to the Fire Investigation INFOCUS Podcast. These mini-episodes are designed to spark curiosity and deliver timely insights in between our full episodes. In this kickoff EmberCast, Chasity and Scott are joined by Jesse Sprague, founder of Echo Spectra, to talk about an innovative new tool for wildfire investigation. Jesse shares how his background in geology, computer science, and mapping led him to develop a free mo...
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2 months ago
20 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S.2 Ep.17- NFPA 921 & 1033 Upcoming Updates: What Investigators Need to Know for 2027
Send us a text Episode 17 – Fire Investigation in Focus Podcast In this episode, hosts Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens return to the studio to dive into some of the most important updates shaping the fire investigation field. From the realities of starting a new business in the industry to the growing role of education and advanced certifications, Scott and Chasity share real experiences and advice that every investigator—new or seasoned—can learn from. They highlight exciting developments s...
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2 months ago
40 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S.2 Ep.16- Back in The Studio: Catch up with us on Fire Investigation Stories, AI Tools, and Generational Games.
Send us a text Welcome back! In this episode our hosts return to recording live episodes together! Chasity kicks things off with exciting news about launching her own fire investigation company and shares stories from her incredibly busy first week, including four fires and some impressive networking at joint examinations. She takes us through fascinating cases, from a kitchen fire caused by cloth items accidentally left in a broiler to a massive carport fire involving 20 vehicles that initia...
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2 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S2 Ep15- The Body Tells a Story w/ Fire Fatality Expert Elayne Pope- Fire Fatality Investigation Tips and Research
Send us a text Welcome to another exciting live episode from the IAAI-ITC 2025 conference in Atlantic City! Hosts Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens bring you their final live recording from the conference, featuring an incredible interview with renowned fire fatality expert Elayne Pope. If you've ever wondered what happens to the human body during a fire, this episode is essential listening. Elayne Pope, one of the foremost experts in fire fatalities, shares her fascinating journey from a...
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3 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S2 Ep14- Depth of Calcination & Tomorrow's Fire Experts: EKU Student Research Spotlight with Molly Morrow & Maggie Fluharty (live from IAAI-ITC)
Send us a text Live from IAAI-ITC with Fire Investigation Students Molly Morrow and Maggie Fluharty. Scott and Chasity return to in-person recording after their busy 4th of July weekend, diving into an engaging conversation about AI-generated images and Scott's impressive new wildland fire investigation app. The hosts share their experiences identifying fake AI content and discuss the evolving landscape of artificial intelligence in media. Scott reveals his exciting project - a custom a...
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3 months ago
57 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S.2 Ep.13- Spontaneous Combustion ft. Dr. Doug Byron (live from IAAI-ITC)
Send us a text Get ready for a mind-blowing deep dive into the science of spontaneous combustion! Scott and Chastity catch up on their busy schedules, with Scott fresh from teaching at the Fire Investigator Academy in Fresno where students bond over four intensive weeks of training. The hosts discuss recent marine fire investigation training and upcoming wildland classes before diving into the main event. The Doug Byron Interview: Spontaneous Combustion Masterclass The real star of this...
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4 months ago
1 hour 10 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S.2 Ep.12- Live from IAAI-ITC: Guatemala's Only Fire Investigator, and Two Guest Listeners
Send us a text In this compelling episode, host Chasity Owens delivers a solo intro while Scott Kuhlman attends Marine Fire Investigation training through IAAI. This special episode features inspiring stories from Guatemala and engaging conversations with dedicated podcast listeners, showcasing the global reach and impact of fire investigation. Key Highlights Breaking Ground in Guatemala: Gretel's remarkable story of becoming Guatemala's first and only certified fire investigator after starti...
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4 months ago
47 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S.2 Ep.11- IAAI Certification Importance and Updates with Rick & Cassie Jones; ECT, CFI, & more.
Send us a text In this episode, hosts Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens deliver another compelling installment from the International Association of Arson Investigators (IAAI) training conference. Recording remotely while Scott teaches at the Fire Investigator Academy in Fresno, the duo presents an illuminating conversation with Rick and Cassandra Jones, two passionate advocates for fire investigation certification and training excellence. Rick Jones shares his journey from law enforcement cani...
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5 months ago
53 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S2 Ep10- Building Confidence in Court: What is a SAW Group And Why Everyone Needs one? ft. Deputy Attorney General Lauren Guber, Fire Investigator Brian Fine, and Dr. Elizabeth Buck,
Send us a text In this episode, Scott and Chasity reunite in-studio after several remote recordings to discuss their recent activities and introduce a special panel discussion about the Scientific Advisory Work Group (SAW). Scott shares his excitement about getting accepted into OSU for a master's program, while the hosts debate the value of continuing education in fire investigation. They emphasize the importance of bachelor's degrees for investigators before diving into the main interview s...
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5 months ago
1 hour 17 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S2 Ep.9- iGuide 3D Camera, Efficient Fire Investigation Documentation w/ Kayla Theriot
Send us a text In this episode, hosts Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens catch up before diving into an interview with Kayla Theriot who is in Business Development for iGuide, a 3D camera solution company. Scott, teaching in San Diego while Chasity holds down the fort in Orange County, discusses how they're experimenting with remote recording to maintain their signature dynamic intro style. The hosts tease their excitement about iGuide's technology and its applications in fire investigation befo...
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6 months ago
47 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S2 Ep.8- Past, Present & Future with Current & Past President's of IAAI
Send us a text In this live episode, Scott opens the show solo from San Diego where he's instructing a 40-hour basic origin and cause class, while Chasity is held up at home with the flu. Scott extends a heartfelt thank you to conference attendees who shared feedback and listening habits, with many enjoying the podcast during workouts, commutes, or before calls. He encourages listeners to get involved with their local IAAI chapters to accelerate their learning curves through networking with e...
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6 months ago
45 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S2. Ep.7- Bridging the Gap: Mentorship, Networking, & Getting Involved at IAAI
Send us a text In this episode, hosts Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens record live from the International Association of Arson Investigators (IAAI) International Training Conference in Atlantic City, New Jersey. With nearly 900 attendees at the conference, the hosts discuss the value of networking and the exciting atmosphere of the event, intentionally keeping background noise to give listeners the authentic conference experience. Scott and Chasity begin by emphasizing the importance of...
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6 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S2 Ep.6- Evidence Collection Tools, Lithium-Ion Battery Safety, & Generational Gaps.
Send us a text In this episode, hosts Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens dive into several hot topics in fire investigation. They begin with a lighthearted generational gap test comparing lyrics to "Blame It On..." across different age groups, before transitioning to important professional content. The hosts discuss upcoming classes at the International Training Conference (ITC) in New Jersey, highlighting courses on AI in fire investigations, lithium-ion batteries, and forensic evidence process...
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7 months ago
57 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
Episode 25! "Not Real" Guests, Unbiased Opinion, & Vehicle Fires.
Send us a text In this milestone 25th episode, hosts Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens kick off their celebration with special AI celebrity "appearances" from Donald Trump, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Kim Kardashian, and Joe Rogan to commemorate reaching this landmark. The podcast has surged in popularity, amassing over 13,000 downloads—a remarkable 30% increase in just 45 days—and approaching 100 five-star ratings on Apple Podcasts. Scott recaps highlights from the CCAI conference, highlighting Kei...
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7 months ago
53 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
S.2 Ep.4- Origin Stories with Dr. Greg Gorbett: Evolution of Fire Investigation, New/Old Research, & Advancing Forward.
Send us a text In this episode, hosts Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens bring on a special guest - Dr. Gregory Gorbett, IAAI-CFI, CFEI, CFPS, CFII, CVFI, Senior Fire Analyst/Co-Owner of Fire Dynamics Analysis, and one of Chasity's former professors from Eastern Kentucky University's renowned fire program. Recording from the California Conference of Arson Investigators February Seminar, the trio dives deep into the world of fire investigation with plenty of expert insights and good-natured bante...
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8 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes

Fire Investigation INFOCUS podcast
Send us a text In this episode, spooky season banter quickly gives way to a masterclass on interviewing for fire investigation: open-ended vs. leading questions, letting witnesses talk without interruption, taking notes without breaking rapport, and using scene walk-throughs to correct memory gaps and build timelines. We unpack subrogation in plain English, why early investigator deployment is value-add, and how to avoid bias from client synopses. Real cases include a mid-slope wildland start...