In this deeply emotional and inspiring episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Jennifer Levi, founder of the Live Like Braun Foundation, to share the story of unimaginable loss, love, and legacy.
Jennifer opens up about losing her 18-year-old son, Braun, to a drunk driver — just months after their family lost their home in the California wildfires. Rather than let grief consume her, she and her family chose action. The Live Like Braun Foundation was born to honor Braun’s life — one defined by kindness, compassion, inclusivity, and a magnetic spirit that inspired everyone he met.
Jennifer discusses her mission to raise awareness about DUI reform, launch scholarships for students pursuing higher education or trade programs, and spread Braun’s message of living boldly and leading with love. She also shares her advocacy work with MADD and efforts to implement AI-powered car technology that could prevent impaired driving.
This episode is both heartbreaking and hopeful — a reminder that even in the darkest moments, one person’s story can spark a nationwide movement for change.
Learn more and support: www.livelikebraunfoundation.org
Follow on Instagram: www.instagram.com/livelikebraunfoundation
Timestamps
00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Jennifer Levi
01:30 – The California wildfires and family displacement
03:00 – Losing Braun to a drunk driver
05:00 – Choosing action over isolation
06:30 – “The worst day of my life became my life’s work”
08:00 – How the Live Like Braun Foundation began
10:00 – Scholarships, awareness, and impact
12:00 – The problem with lenient DUI laws in California
15:00 – AI and technology to prevent drunk driving
18:00 – Education and defensive awareness for teens
21:00 – Partnering with MADD and law enforcement
23:00 – How Live Like Braun is inspiring kids nationwide
25:00 – Scholarships for trade schools and college students
27:00 – Healing through service and purpose
30:00 – Where to follow and get involved
Powerful Quote
“The worst day of my life has now become my life’s work.” – Jennifer Levi
Guest Bio
Jennifer Levi
Founder, Live Like Braun Foundation
Jennifer Levi is the founder of the Live Like Braun Foundation, an organization created to honor her late son, Braun, who was tragically killed by a drunk driver at 18 years old. The foundation promotes kindness, inclusivity, and courage — values Braun embodied — while also raising awareness around impaired driving and providing scholarships for students pursuing higher education, trade, or vocational programs.
Jennifer’s advocacy includes working with MADD and state leaders to strengthen DUI laws, introduce AI-powered prevention technology in vehicles, and provide educational programs in high schools. Through her work, she continues to turn unimaginable pain into a movement of hope and purpose.
Website: www.livelikebraunfoundation.org
Instagram: www.instagram.com/livelikebraunfoundation
Resources Mentioned
• Live Like Braun Foundation – www.livelikebraunfoundation.org
• MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) – www.madd.org
• HALT Act & AI Vehicle Technology
• “Defensive Living” Education Programs for Teens
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In this powerful episode, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Brian Hughes, Regional Resource Director at Caron Treatment Centers. Brian shares his jaw-dropping story—rising through the beer industry at Sam Adams, spiraling into addiction, landing in federal prison, and ultimately finding purpose through recovery.
Today, Brian helps others find their way out of the darkness. He walks us through Caron’s legacy, his work across the Northeast and Southeast, and how addiction doesn’t discriminate—whether you’re homeless or a CEO. This is a raw, redemptive conversation about second chances, humility, and the power of recovery.
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Website: https://www.caron.org
Email: bhughes@caron.org
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Timestamps
00:00 – Meet Brian Hughes from Caron Treatment Centers
01:15 – Caron’s legacy and history in addiction treatment
03:00 – Brian’s background: Sam Adams, alcohol industry, and addiction
05:00 – His rock bottom: FBI arrest and federal prison
07:00 – First nudge from a judge: 40 days in prison
08:30 – Starting an AA group while incarcerated
09:30 – Why humility was the key to getting free
11:30 – Re-entering the world and recovery work post-prison
13:00 – Landing his first recovery job—while pleading guilty
14:00 – Why his record is now his greatest asset
16:30 – Sitting with people in crisis and offering hope
18:00 – Getting hired by Caron and learning from leaders
19:30 – Why lived experience matters in this field
21:00 – The importance of dignity and respect in recovery
23:00 – What Brian’s job looks like today: family navigation & advocacy
25:00 – How collaboration beats competition in addiction treatment
26:30 – Overview of Caron’s programs and campuses
28:30 – Signature programs: Grandview, Monarch, and Ocean Drive
30:00 – Caron’s neurocognitive treatment approach
31:00 – Admitting younger clients (as young as 17)
32:00 – Final thoughts on humility, service, and second chances
33:00 – How to connect with Brian and learn more about Caron
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#FindingNewWatersPodcast #RecoveryStory #SecondChances
#FromPrisonToPurpose #NeurocognitiveTherapy #SubstanceUseHelp
#ReentrySupport #SoberLeadership #MentalHealthAwareness
#AlcoholRecovery #12StepRecovery #RedemptionThroughService
In this episode, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Drew Horowitz, founder of Drew Horowitz & Associates, to break down what interventions are—and what they aren’t. Drew shares his personal story of recovery, his own intervention in NYC, and how that experience led him to a career helping families navigate addiction, mental health, and crisis with professionalism and heart.
They explore the misconceptions around interventions, the role of sober transport and companions, and how families can better understand the emotional and financial costs of untreated addiction. Whether you’re a loved one trying to help someone take the first step or a professional in the field, this episode is a must-listen.
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Website: https://www.drewhorwitzassociates.com
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Timestamps
00:00 – Intro: Meet Drew Horowitz
01:00 – What Drew Horowitz & Associates does
03:00 – Drew’s personal intervention story and path to recovery
05:30 – What a compassionate intervention really looks like
07:00 – Misconceptions from pop culture and TV
09:30 – The four models of intervention
12:00 – Common barriers to treatment (work, fear, control)
15:00 – The difference between persuasion and empowerment
17:00 – Why shame never works
19:00 – The manipulative patterns of addiction
21:00 – Why families get stuck in the same cycle
23:00 – Navigating overwhelming treatment options
25:00 – Talking finances: reality vs emotional cost
27:00 – Sober transport: getting people safely to care
28:30 – Companion services explained
32:00 – Smoothing the landing post-treatment
35:00 – What recovery actually costs when left untreated
37:00 – Additional consulting services
39:00 – Why their team stays focused on what they do best
40:00 – How to find and contact Drew Horowitz & Associates
Hashtags
#DrewHorowitz #InterventionSupport #AddictionRecovery
#FindingNewWatersPodcast #SoberTransport #SoberCompanion
#FamilyRecovery #MentalHealthIntervention #RecoverySupport
#SubstanceUseHelp #CrisisIntervention #TreatmentNavigation
#NewWatersRecovery #AddictionResources #CompassionateCare
In this powerful episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Carl Radke, entrepreneur, reality TV star from Bravo’s Summer House, and founder of Soft Bar, a new alcohol-free café and social space in Brooklyn.
Carl opens up about his public battle with addiction, the tragic loss of his brother to overdose, and how hitting rock bottom led him to embrace sobriety in 2021. He reflects on his time in the alcohol industry, the challenges of getting sober in the spotlight, and how a community of support helped him rebuild his life.
Now nearly five years sober, Carl shares how Soft Bar is redefining what it means to socialize without alcohol — offering premium non-alcoholic cocktails, coffee, and a welcoming space for everyone, whether sober, sober-curious, or just looking for balance.
This episode dives deep into recovery, resilience, and Carl’s mission to break stigma and create connection.
🌐 Learn more: https://radkeboys.com
📍 Visit Soft Bar: Brooklyn, NY
00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Carl Radke
01:05 – Launching Soft Bar in Brooklyn
04:15 – From Bravo to the alcohol industry
06:30 – Losing his brother & hitting rock bottom
09:45 – Getting sober in the public eye
11:20 – Why Soft Bar is about more than recovery
14:30 – Not feeling seen when choosing not to drink
17:00 – Wearing sobriety on his sleeve
19:00 – Building a team and a healthier culture
22:30 – Creating connection & community through Soft Bar
25:30 – Sobriety in New York City & thriving in meetings
29:00 – Experiencing the city sober for the first time
31:30 – Morning routines, running, and meditation
36:00 – The Radke Boys website & resources
42:00 – Impacting others through honesty and visibility
46:00 – One day at a time: future plans for Soft Bar
Carl Radke
Entrepreneur | Reality TV Star | Founder of Soft Bar
Carl Radke is best known as a cast member on Bravo’s Summer House. After years of working in the alcohol industry and struggling with substance use, Carl embraced sobriety in 2021 following the loss of his brother to overdose. Nearly five years sober, he is now the founder of Soft Bar, a sober-friendly café and bar in Brooklyn that offers premium non-alcoholic cocktails and coffee. Carl also runs RadkeBoys.com, a resource hub created in honor of his brother to support those struggling with addiction.
Soft Bar (Brooklyn, NY)
RadkeBoys.com – Resources and support
Release Recovery – Zach Clark’s nonprofit
Summer House (Bravo TV)
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#CarlRadke #SoftBar #AddictionRecovery #SobrietyJourney #FindingNewWaters #SummerHouse #AlcoholFreeLiving #RecoveryCommunity #NonAlcoholicCocktails
In this episode, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Cini Shaw, Director at The Lighthouse in New Canaan, Connecticut. Cini shares her personal recovery journey and how it led her to help create one of the nation’s most respected recovery residences for executives, professionals, and families.
From flexible, concierge-style sober living to coaching and family support, Cini explains how The Lighthouse provides an elevated, individualized path to long-term recovery. She also speaks candidly about the stigma women face when seeking help and why compassionate care is critical to lasting change.
Whether you’re looking to understand sober living options, improve family support, or hear an inspiring recovery story, this episode is packed with insight, heart, and hope.
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Website: https://www.thelighthousect.com
Email: cini@thelighthousect.com
Trey Laird Interview: Available on past episodes of Finding New Waters
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Timestamps
00:00 – Welcome Cini Shaw from The Lighthouse
01:05 – What is The Lighthouse recovery residence?
03:00 – Expanding services: Coaching, sober apartments, and intensives
05:25 – Balancing recovery with real life (work, travel, family)
09:00 – Cini’s personal story of alcoholism, detox, and early recovery
11:00 – The power of one act of kindness: her first meeting
14:00 – Why it’s harder for women to ask for help
18:00 – The myth of perfection and mommy wine culture
20:30 – Helping women reintegrate with family while in care
22:00 – Career transitions and building a life that lights you up
24:00 – What is a recovery coach and how are they different from therapists or sponsors?
27:00 – Real-life support: dating, airports, football games, and more
29:00 – Why matching clients with the right coach matters
31:00 – Family coaching and the Invitation to Change model
34:00 – Healing the whole family: The Healing Forest metaphor
36:00 – The meaning of “Wellbriety” and growing wellness
37:30 – Fun, connection, and living a full life in recovery
38:30 – How to get in touch with Cini and visit The Lighthouse
Hashtags
#CiniShaw #TheLighthouseCT #FindingNewWatersPodcast
#WomenInRecovery #SoberLiving #RecoveryCoaching
#ExecutiveRecovery #Wellbriety #AlcoholRecovery
#FamilySupport #HealingForest #AddictionRecovery
#MindfulLiving #SoberTransformation #MentalHealthAwareness
In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Amber Hollingsworth, therapist, addiction recovery coach, and creator of the popular YouTube channel Put the Shovel Down.
Amber shares her journey of becoming an addiction counselor “by accident,” how she built one of the first teen outpatient programs in her area, and the lessons she’s learned after 20 years working with families and individuals facing addiction. She explains her unique family lawyering model, why loved ones often get stuck playing the “villain” role, and how her method of “invisible interventions” helps families move someone from denial to change without ultimatums or blowups.
From her candid reflections on marijuana addiction and cannabis-induced psychosis, to her strategies for family involvement, Amber brings practical wisdom, compassion, and humor to the complex challenges of recovery.
📍 Learn more about Amber:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PutTheShovelDown
Website: https://www.hopeforfamiliesrecoverycenter.com
00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Amber Hollingsworth
02:00 – How Amber accidentally became an addiction counselor
05:00 – Building one of the first teen outpatient programs
08:00 – Why relationships matter more than clinical techniques
10:00 – The family lawyering model explained
13:00 – How families unknowingly sabotage recovery efforts
16:00 – Invisible interventions and building “credit” with loved ones
20:00 – Content creation and Put the Shovel Down on YouTube
24:00 – Trends in addiction: alcohol, opioids, and marijuana
27:00 – Why cannabis addiction is often the hardest to treat
30:00 – Cannabis-induced psychosis and its impact on teens and families
33:00 – Why marijuana can cause aggression in adolescents
36:00 – Final thoughts & how to connect with Amber
“The formula for change is simple: natural consequences plus empathy equals movement. Families just need to stop playing the villain.” – Amber Hollingsworth
Amber Hollingsworth
Therapist | Recovery Coach | Creator, Put the Shovel Down
Amber Hollingsworth has worked in addiction treatment for over 20 years, helping families and individuals break free from denial and build lasting recovery. Known for her innovative family lawyering model and her popular YouTube channel Put the Shovel Down, Amber equips families with practical strategies to support recovery without confrontation. She specializes in working with families affected by substance use, offering coaching, educational content, and compassionate guidance rooted in experience and connection.
🌐 Hope for Families Recovery Center
📺 Put the Shovel Down on YouTube
Put the Shovel Down YouTube Channel
Hope for Families Recovery Center
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In this moving episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Gregg Champion—entrepreneur, recovery advocate, and co-founder of Startup Recovery—to talk about his 30-year journey in sobriety and the devastating California wildfires that destroyed his home, schools, and 70% of his business in a single day.
Gregg shares how recovery equipped him to respond with clarity, prioritize family and clients, and rally his community during an unthinkable disaster. He opens up about the creation of Startup Recovery, his belief that we should “shift addiction to passion,” and why he rejects the idea of “get well jobs” in favor of pursuing purpose from the start.
From Hollywood to entrepreneurship to building sober living communities, Gregg’s story is one of resilience, innovation, and faith in humanity—restored in the aftermath of tragedy.
📍 Learn more about Startup Recovery:
Website: https://www.startuprecovery.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greggchampion
00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Gregg Champion
02:00 – The story behind Gregg’s “Live Like Braun” hat
05:00 – Discovering his “it factor” and the second definition of Champion
07:00 – Sobriety, entrepreneurship, and founding Startup Recovery
10:00 – Rejecting the “get well job” and choosing passion
13:00 – The January 7th fires: losing his home, business, and schools
17:00 – Keeping kids together to reduce trauma
20:00 – Rebuilding Startup Recovery in Santa Monica
23:00 – Addiction, divorce, and the fallout after disaster
27:00 – Faith restored: strangers’ generosity after the fire
30:00 – Gratitude, perspective, and resilience in real time
35:00 – Startup 2.0 and what’s next
40:00 – How to connect with Gregg Champion
Gregg Champion
Co-Founder, Startup Recovery | Recovery Advocate | Entrepreneur
Gregg Champion has been sober for 30 years and is the co-founder of Startup Recovery, a unique program in Southern California combining mentorship, entrepreneurship, and clinical treatment. With a background in film, branding, and teaching entrepreneurship at USC, Gregg integrates his passion for innovation with his commitment to recovery. His mission is to help people “shift addiction to passion” and live with purpose.
Startup Recovery: https://www.startuprecovery.com
Startup Wellness: https://www.startupwellness.com
Startup Apartments: https://www.startupapartments.com
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with John Lieberman, CEO of Visions Teen Treatment Centers in California, a premier program for adolescents struggling with substance use and mental health.
John shares his remarkable journey of getting sober at just 17 years old in 1985, entering treatment twice as a teenager, and finding hope that recovery could actually be fun. Now celebrating nearly 40 years in recovery and four decades working in the field, John reflects on how his early experiences shaped his lifelong dedication to adolescent treatment.
He discusses his path from floor tech to national outreach director, the founding of Visions, and why he believes in meeting teens with honesty, authenticity, and family support. John also sounds the alarm about today’s challenges—social media, misdiagnosed mental health, and the dangers of THC and psychedelics for vulnerable youth.
This conversation is raw, inspiring, and full of wisdom from someone who has dedicated his life to helping young people and families find healing.
📍 Learn more about Visions: https://visionsteen.co
00:00 – Welcome & introduction to John Lieberman
02:00 – Getting sober at 17 in Pasadena, CA
06:00 – Finding hope that recovery could be fun
10:00 – Lessons from early treatment experiences
15:00 – From floor tech to 40 years in adolescent treatment
20:00 – Why authenticity matters in youth recovery
24:00 – Visions Teen: dual diagnosis & family-focused programming
29:00 – Why all-gender treatment environments matter
33:00 – The rise of anxiety, OCD, and autism spectrum diagnoses
38:00 – Social media’s devastating impact on kids
44:00 – THC, psychedelics, and the reality of psychosis in teens
50:00 – Why parents must get involved in recovery
54:00 – A message of hope for families
John Lieberman
CEO, Visions Teen Treatment Centers
John Lieberman has been working in the field of addiction and adolescent mental health for nearly 40 years. After getting sober at 17, John began his career as a floor tech and went on to become a leader, educator, and advocate in adolescent treatment. Today, he serves as CEO of Visions Teen Treatment Centers in California, widely regarded as the gold standard in adolescent care. John is passionate about authentic connection, family involvement, and raising awareness about the unique challenges facing today’s youth.
Visions Teen Treatment: https://visionsteen.com
“The Anxious Generation” by Jonathan Haidt
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In this heartfelt episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Tom Farley—speaker, author, recovery advocate, and brother of the late comedian Chris Farley.
Tom opens up about his personal journey through addiction and recovery, the impact of his brother’s very public death, and how writing The Chris Farley Show helped him heal and see Chris in a new light. He reflects on growing up in Wisconsin, navigating sobriety after years of false starts, and finding purpose in working with teens, treatment centers, and now with Recovery.com.
From stories of Wall Street and New York nightlife to insights on authenticity, grief, and fun in recovery, Tom’s story is equal parts cautionary and inspiring. He also shares the exciting news of an upcoming film adaptation of The Chris Farley Show—and why he hopes it will become a tool for the recovery community.
📍 Learn more about Tom’s work: https://www.recovery.com
📕 Book: The Chris Farley Show
00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Tom Farley
01:00 – Tom’s work with Recovery.com and Recovery Cast
03:00 – How Chris Farley’s story first brought Tom into recovery work
05:00 – Sobriety “attempts” vs. true recovery
07:00 – The meeting that changed everything
10:00 – Writing The Chris Farley Show and seeing Chris differently
13:00 – The “mascot” persona and searching for authenticity
16:00 – Growing up, prep school, and Georgetown years
19:00 – Life in New York finance & Chris’s rise at SNL
22:00 – News about The Chris Farley Show movie adaptation
26:00 – Recovery.com’s mission & patient-first approach
30:00 – Building healthy workplace culture rooted in gratitude
34:00 – Belonging, connection, and living as one whole person
38:00 – Lessons from recovery: action before results
41:00 – Why fun in recovery is not only possible—but essential
“I thought recovery meant no more fun—but I’ve had more fun sober than I ever did drinking. You’re not going to tell a Farley they can’t have fun.” – Tom Farley
Tom Farley
Tom Farley is a speaker, author, and recovery advocate. He wrote The Chris Farley Show, a New York Times bestselling oral history of his brother, the late comedian Chris Farley. Tom has spent years developing prevention and treatment programs for teens and young adults, and today works with Recovery.com, a patient-focused platform dedicated to connecting people with recovery resources and building community through podcasts, articles, and education.
The Chris Farley Show (Book)
Recovery Cast Podcast
Giving Voice to Depression Podcast
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#TomFarley #ChrisFarley #RecoveryPodcast #AddictionRecovery #FindingNewWatersPodcast #RecoveryCommunity #TheChrisFarleyShow #RecoveryDotCom #SobrietyJourney #FunInRecovery
In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Ryan Soave, Licensed Mental Health Counselor, certified trauma therapist, and research consultant for Huberman Lab at Stanford University Department of Neurobiology.
Ryan opens up about his journey from entrepreneur and world traveler to finding his true calling in the treatment of trauma and addiction. He shares insights from years of clinical practice, research, and personal transformation—exploring why we confuse discomfort with danger, how trauma builds over time, and why resilience requires learning to sit with the difficult emotions instead of running from them.
Drawing on practices like meditation, Yoga Nidra, Somatic Experiencing, EMDR, and breathwork, Ryan offers both science and story to help us understand how to uncover our true selves through recovery and healing.
📍 Learn more about Ryan: Guardian Recovery – Ryan Soave
📲 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryan.swa
📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@rjswa
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⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Ryan Soave
02:00 – From entrepreneurship to trauma treatment
04:00 – Research with Huberman Lab & VR experiments on fear
07:00 – The barnacle boat: how trauma builds up over time
10:00 – Early programming and its effects on relationships
13:00 – Why we confuse discomfort with danger
17:00 – Addictive behaviors and the search for relief
21:00 – Meaning-making, worry, and fear of the future
24:00 – Principles in action: practicing recovery in relationships
27:00 – Sensitivity, stress, and self-regulation tools
30:00 – Yoga Nidra and Non-Sleep Deep Rest explained
34:00 – Breathwork, pausing, and the power of stillness
41:00 – Practical tools for re-centering in stress
44:00 – Final reflections & how to connect with Ryan
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💬 Powerful Quote:
“We often confuse discomfort with danger—and then react to it as if it’s life or death.” – Ryan Soave
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👤 Guest Bio:
Ryan Soave
LMHC | Certified Trauma Therapist | Program Developer | Research Consultant
Ryan Soave brings deep experience as a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, certified trauma therapist, program developer, and research consultant for Huberman Lab at Stanford University Department of Neurobiology. After graduating from Wake Forest University and building a successful business career, Ryan faced personal and spiritual challenges that led him to pursue a Master’s in Mental Health Counseling.
He has since worked with thousands of clients with complex PTSD, designed and facilitated large workshops, and spoken at national conferences as an expert in trauma and addiction treatment. Ryan has also been invited multiple times to lead meditations for members and staffers of the United States Congress. Trained in modalities such as yoga, Yoga Nidra, Somatic Experiencing, EMDR, and breathwork, Ryan approaches recovery with passion, commitment, and joy—believing that trauma treatment is an uncovering process that allows people to remember their true selves.
🌐 Learn More – Guardian Recovery
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📚 Resources Mentioned:
• Yoga Nidra / NSDR guided practices
• Breathwork and Somatic Experiencing
• Guardian Recovery: https://www.guardianrecovery.com
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#RyanSoave #TraumaRecovery #AddictionRecovery #HubermanLab #FindingNewWaters #YogaNidra #NSDR #SomaticExperiencing #Breathwork #PTSDHealing
In this inspiring episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Chris Love, who got sober at just 19 years old and has spent the last 16 years building a life centered around service, connection, and joy. Chris shares his journey from early addiction to finding freedom in recovery, and how getting sober young opened unexpected doors to a fulfilling and purpose-driven life.He talks about overcoming the stigma of getting sober in your teens, the role of faith in his recovery, and why he believes that life in sobriety isn’t just about abstinence—it’s about living fully. Chris also shares his passion for helping others see the possibility of joy in early recovery, proving that sobriety doesn’t have to mean missing out—it can mean gaining everything.⸻⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome & Introduction to Chris Love01:05 – Chris’s story: From partying teen to early recovery04:20 – Why he chose sobriety at 1907:10 – Facing the stigma of young recovery10:00 – Building a support network and finding mentors13:15 – Faith, hope, and spiritual growth in sobriety17:40 – Why recovery isn’t just “not drinking”21:05 – Discovering fun, joy, and adventure in sobriety26:50 – Service work and giving back to the community31:10 – Life lessons from 16 years sober35:00 – Chris’s advice for young people in recovery39:20 – Final reflections & closing thoughts⸻💬 Powerful Quote:“You can have so much fun at 19 getting sober—you just have to be open to the possibility of it.” – Chris Love⸻👤 Guest Bio:Chris LoveChris Love entered recovery at 19 years old and has remained sober for over 16 years. His life’s mission is to show others—especially young people—that sobriety is not a limitation but an opportunity. Through faith, service, and a commitment to growth, Chris has built a life he once thought was impossible.⸻📚 Resources Mentioned:https://www.hqpsych.com/chris-love • Circle of Security Parenting: https://circleofsecurityinternational.com⸻📱 Follow Us: • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecovery • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecovery • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻▶️ Watch & Listen: • Podcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.com • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608 • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw • YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#ChrisLove #YoungRecovery #SobrietyAt19 #AddictionRecovery #FaithInRecovery #FindingNewWaters #SobrietyJourney #LifeInSobriety #RecoveryIsPossible
In this powerful episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Luke DeGrossi, CEO of Novara Recovery Center, to talk about how a single journal entry in a psychiatric hospital changed the course of his life. Luke shares his raw and honest journey through addiction, mental health, and long-term recovery—and how it all led him to build a treatment center designed to meet people where they are.
Luke opens up about what it means to be of service, how to honor the “window of recovery,” and why personal experience can be one of the greatest assets in leading others out of the darkness. Whether you’re in recovery, supporting someone who is, or just seeking hope—you’ll find it here.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction to Luke DeGrossi
01:10 – Luke’s first experience with treatment and the psych ward journal
03:45 – Why he kept going back to recovery, even after falling
06:20 – “What if you had all the money in the world?” and the Novara vision
09:00 – Learning to answer the call when the window of recovery opens
11:15 – How Novara aims to meet people where they are
14:00 – Service, humility, and the weight of the work
17:50 – Family support and the impact of healing together
20:10 – Mentorship, Villanova, and giving back
23:00 – What makes a treatment center truly supportive
26:30 – Final reflections and the future of Novara Recovery
Guest Bio:
Luke DeGrossi
CEO, Novara Recovery Center
Luke is the CEO of Novara Recovery Center, where he leads the company’s strategy and mission to make addiction treatment accessible and effective. With over a decade of personal sobriety and more than 10 years of leadership experience, Luke combines professional excellence with a deep, personal passion for recovery. He also serves as Chairman of the Board for Friends of Valence College Prep and sits on the Villanova School of Business Mentorship Advisory Board.
Resources Mentioned:
Novara Recovery Center: https://www.novararecoverycenter.com
Circle of Security Parenting: https://circleofsecurityinternational.com
📍 Learn more: https://www.novararecoverycenter.com
🔗 Connect with Luke on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukedegrossi/
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#LukeDeGrossi #NovaraRecovery #AddictionRecovery #FindingNewWaters #RecoveryLeadership #MentalHealthAwareness #SubstanceUseDisorder #LongTermSobriety #PsychWardToCEO #TreatmentThatWorks
In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Dr. Greg Hobelmann, co-CEO of Ashley Addiction Treatment and a person in long-term recovery. Greg opens up about his battle with addiction as a practicing anesthesiologist, his path to sobriety, and how he ultimately returned to Ashley as a leader after once leaving in relapse. His story is one of redemption, personal transformation, and the power of second chances. From a deeply personal account of relapse to his rise as a respected recovery professional, this episode dives into how building healthy habits and embracing a life of service can truly lead to freedom and fulfillment in recovery.
Dr. Hobelmann also explores the science of habit formation, the spiritual foundation of sustained sobriety, and how recovery can be not just healing—but joyful.
📍 Learn more about Ashley Addiction Treatment: https://www.ashleytreatment.org
📧 Contact Dr. Greg Hobelmann: jghobelmann@ashleytreatment.org
Timestamps
00:00 – Intro & Welcome
00:56 – What Is Ashley Addiction Treatment?
02:10 – Dr. Hobelmann’s Story: From Anesthesiologist to Recovery
05:00 – His First Treatment Experience
06:55 – Relapse and Redemption
08:15 – The Return to Ashley
10:35 – Redefining “Addict” & Battling Stigma
13:05 – Father Martin’s Legacy & the Origins of Ashley
17:20 – Monitoring Programs & Why Structure Helps
21:00 – Building Joy and Freedom in Recovery
23:10 – Daily Spiritual Maintenance
26:00 – Habit Formation & Behavioral Change
31:40 – Discipline, Structure & Emotional Sobriety
35:45 – Recovery as a Lifelong Journey
40:30 – Ashley’s Full Continuum of Care
49:00 – Final Reflections on Growth & Gratitude
50:35 – How to Reach Ashley Addiction Treatment
Key Quote
“If I don’t get high in sobriety, I’m not going to be able to stay sober. I’ve got to enjoy this.” — Dr. Greg Hobelmann
In this bold and passionate episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Brandy Klingman—a licensed psychotherapist, founder, and CEO of St. Christopher’s and Magnolia Bell treatment centers in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. With over two decades of experience in behavioral health, Brandy brings a rare blend of clinical insight and fearless advocacy to the conversation.She opens up about the fight to regulate dangerous substances like Kratom and Delta-8, the importance of long-term care, and what it’s like to bring her voice directly into policy conversations in Washington D.C. Whether you’re in recovery, a family member, or working in the treatment space, Brandy’s message is one of clarity, courage, and commitment to truth.⸻⏱️ Timestamps • 00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Brandy Klingman • 01:00 – About St. Christopher’s: 8-month treatment rooted in connection • 04:00 – Infusing clinical care into 12-step models • 05:30 – Why she works in national advocacy and what drives it • 08:00 – The need for people in recovery at policy tables • 12:00 – On stigma, honesty, and modeling change • 15:00 – Her personal and professional path into addiction work • 20:00 – Diagnoses like antisocial disorder: What needs to shift • 23:00 – How young people are reshaping mental health conversations • 24:30 – The risks of Kratom and Delta-8: What’s not being talked about • 30:00 – Foreign synthetics and how they’re getting into kids’ hands • 36:00 – Prevention, regulation, and protecting future generations • 42:00 – Her new women’s program: Magnolia Bell • 44:00 – Final thoughts: action, community, and staying in the fight⸻💬 Powerful Quote“If there’s going to be a decision made about mental health or substance use treatment, we need a voice in the room.” – Brandy Klingman⸻👤 Guest BioBrandy KlingmanPsychotherapist | CEO of St. Christopher’s & Magnolia Bellwww.brandypklingman.comBrandy Klingman is a licensed psychotherapist, founder, and CEO of both St. Christopher’s Addiction Wellness (a long-term men’s treatment center) and Magnolia Bell (a new program for women) based in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. She has over 20 years of experience in behavioral health and is a fierce advocate for regulatory reform, access to long-term care, and ethical leadership in addiction treatment. Brandy is active in both state and federal mental health policy conversations and is on a mission to change the way our country approaches recovery—starting with truth.⸻📚 Resources Mentioned • Brandy Klingman Official Website: https://www.brandypklingman.com • St. Christopher’s Addiction Wellness: https://www.addictionwellness.com • Magnolia Bell Women’s Program: (website not listed yet—can be added later) • Circle of Security Parenting: https://circleofsecurityinternational.com⸻📱 Follow Us • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecovery • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecovery • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻▶️ Watch & Listen • Podcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.com • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw • Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608 • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw • YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#BrandyKlingman #AddictionRecovery #MentalHealthAdvocacy #LongTermTreatment #MagnoliaBell #StChristophersRecovery #PolicyReform #FindingNewWatersPodcast
In this practical and energizing episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Kate Wade and Krissy Metzler, co-founders of The GOALDEN System, to talk about what executive function really means—and why most of us were never taught how to manage time, goals, and emotions in a sustainable way.
Kate and Krissy break down the myths around productivity (“Just use a calendar!”), explain the brain science behind behavior change, and share their system for coaching individuals from overwhelmed to organized. Whether you’re neurodivergent, in recovery, juggling family and work, or just constantly feeling behind—this conversation offers validation, insight, and real strategies you can apply today.
⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro and what executive function actually is
01:30 – Who The GOALDEN System helps (hint: it’s everyone)
04:00 – Behavior change vs. quick fixes
06:00 – The GOALDEN acronym and how their system works
10:00 – Neurodivergent brains and what they need
14:00 – Recovery, ADHD, and still feeling stuck
18:00 – Resistance to change and the path of least resistance
21:00 – Chaos is familiar, but doesn’t have to be permanent
24:00 – How long coaching takes and what it feels like
28:00 – Redefining success and building tools that last
36:00 – A favorite tip: externalizing your thoughts
39:00 – Cognitive flexibility and the truth about pivoting
40:00 – Final thoughts: celebrate your small wins
🧠 Key Topics Covered:
Executive function explained in real language
How behavior change really happens (hint: it’s not overnight)
Why neurodivergence is a strength when you know how to work with it
The GOALDEN system and how it adapts to you
How coaching supports recovery and emotional regulation
Replacing shame with self-awareness and strategy
💬 Powerful Quote:
“You deserve a good day. And we’re here to help you build one—your way.” – Kate Wade
👥 Guest Bios:
Kate Wade is an executive function coach with a background in marine science education and educational psychology. She brings brain-based strategies, humor, and deep compassion to every coaching relationship.
Krissy Metzler is a former English and special education teacher who specializes in behavior change and neurodivergent coaching. She’s also the brains behind The GOALDEN System’s newsletters and workshops.
Together, they co-founded The GOALDEN System—a coaching model that helps people manage time, reduce overwhelm, and feel better equipped to live the life they want.
📚 Resources:
Website: https://www.thegoaldensystem.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegoaldensystem
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thegoaldensystem
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#ExecutiveFunction #TheGOALDENSystem #NeurodivergentSupport #FindingNewWatersPodcast #BehaviorChange #TimeManagementTools #MentalWellnessCoaching #RecoveryAndPlanning #ADHDSupport #KateWade #KrissyMetzler
In this moving and unfiltered episode of Finding New Waters, we’re joined by Mayor Jacques Gilbert and Hollan Steen, Director of Admissions at Asheville Recovery Center, to share the remarkable story of Apex, North Carolina’s Substance Misuse Task Force.
The episode explores how a mayor and a formerly incarcerated man formed an unlikely alliance to battle addiction stigma, increase recovery resources, and create a more welcoming and inclusive community. They discuss the founding of the task force, the courage it took to start conversations about addiction in a conservative environment, and how their partnership has inspired other municipalities to take notice.
It’s a powerful testimony to the healing potential of connection, humility, and action at the local level.
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Timestamps:
00:00 – Opening & introductions
01:00 – How Hollan & Jacques first connected
05:00 – Breaking through shame and stigma in small towns
07:00 – The courage to walk into the mayor’s office
10:00 – Creating a task force with purpose and balance
13:00 – Building Peak of Hope: The outreach mission
17:00 – Lived experience and its role in public trust
21:00 – The power of family support in launching the task force
24:00 – From a hidden booth to community hugs: Peak Fest’s evolution
27:00 – The stigma in Wake County vs. Asheville
30:00 – Naloxone in Wake County Schools: A real victory
34:00 – Hope, collaboration, and how to get involved
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Key Points:
A mayor and a man with a felony conviction team up to build trust
Recovery stigma in Wake County and the courage to talk about it
The power of representation: why visibility matters in recovery
Supporting families with lived experience, not just data
Why this local model is gaining statewide attention
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Powerful Quote:
“A government official sitting on a couch with a convicted felon, saying together we want to change the world—that would’ve never happened in Apex. Until now.” – Hollan Steen
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Guest Bios:
Jacques Gilbert
Mayor of Apex, NC | Former Police Captain | Community Advocate
Mayor Gilbert served 29 years in law enforcement before being elected mayor. He’s known for his commitment to connection, inclusion, and showing up for those who feel unseen.
Hollan Steen
Director of Admissions, Asheville Recovery Center
Hollan’s journey from incarceration to recovery leader is a testament to the power of second chances. He now leads admissions at ARC and speaks nationally about stigma, advocacy, and lived experience.
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Resources Mentioned:
Town of Apex: https://www.apexnc.org (Search: Substance Misuse Task Force)
Asheville Recovery Center: https://www.ashevillerecoverycenter.com
Naloxone Programs in NC Schools
Circle of Security Parenting: https://circleofsecurityinternational.com
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In this powerful episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Jeff Hatch — a former NFL player turned recovery advocate — for an unflinchingly honest and deeply redemptive conversation. Jeff shares his remarkable journey from playing for the New York Giants to battling addiction, relapsing, and ultimately rebuilding a meaningful life in long-term recovery. With raw insight and humility, Jeff opens up about the weight of secrets, the darkness of relapse, and the spiritual clarity he found through surrender.
Jeff’s path has taken him from the NFL to a federal investigation — and now, to a leadership role in recovery at Eagle Creek Ranch. Whether you’re in recovery or just need to hear a story of hope, redemption, and true transformation, this episode is for you.
👇 TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 – Intro & Reconnecting in Seattle
01:00 – Jeff’s football journey: from UPenn to the NFL
06:30 – Injury, addiction, and painkillers in pro sports
11:00 – The illusion of achievement as a cure
18:00 – Getting honest: From overdose to treatment
22:00 – Early recovery and starting over
28:00 – Relapse, fentanyl patches, and heroin
36:00 – Getting involved with federal law enforcement
43:00 – Facing public exposure and redemption
49:00 – Finding love and rebuilding a new life
55:00 – Living spiritually through chaos
01:00:00 – Jeff’s life today: marriage, career, and fatherhood
01:08:00 – Gratitude, authenticity, and using your pain for purpose
01:12:00 – Outro & how to connect with Jeff
🔗 Find Jeff Hatch:
Website: https://www.hatchcoaching.com
🏥 Eagle Creek Ranch Recovery: https://www.eaglecreekranchrecovery.com
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery
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Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608
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In this heartfelt and deeply insightful episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Steve Lee, Senior Director of Strategic Relationships at Cumberland Heights. Steve reflects on his 35-year journey in recovery, his unexpected transition into the treatment field at age 58, and the guiding values that shape both his life and career. From stories of personal transformation to reflections on ethics in behavioral health, this episode is a masterclass in humility, wisdom, and the power of principled living. Whether you’re in recovery, working in the treatment space, or simply seeking a deeper understanding of authentic leadership, Steve’s words will resonate.
[00:00] Introduction – Meet Steve Lee from Cumberland Heights
[01:00] The Cheeseburger Story – A life lesson in acceptance
[03:00] Starting a New Career at 58 – From family business to treatment field
[07:00] Questions That Clarify Purpose – What do you love, value, and excel at?
[12:00] Two Hats in Recovery Work – The separation of job and personal sobriety
[19:00] A Job Meant to Be – How trusting the process led to the right opportunity
[24:00] The Power of 12-Step Language – When the message hits the heart
[29:00] What Keeps Steve Coming Back – Spiritual growth and humility
[33:00] Ethics in the Treatment Field – Staying true in high-pressure environments
[42:00] True North in Action – Doing the right thing even when it’s hard
[46:00] Friendship, Change, and Growth – Recovery reshaping connection
[50:00] Cumberland Heights & Arches – Trusted treatment for all ages
[55:00] Final Reflections – Gratitude, growth, and staying in the solution
Steve Lee
Senior Director of Strategic Relationships, Cumberland Heights
Steve Lee brings over 12 years of experience in behavioral health and over 35 years of personal recovery. A former family business leader, Steve made a transformative mid-life career change to work in the addiction treatment field. He is widely respected for his ethical leadership, heartfelt communication, and dedication to recovery-centered care. At Cumberland Heights, Steve focuses on connecting professionals and families with treatment solutions that honor the integrity of the recovery process.
Reinvention at Any Age – It’s never too late to start living your passion.
Principled Recovery Work – True ethics come from personal accountability, not company policy.
Why We Keep Coming Back – Recovery isn’t just about stopping a behavior—it’s about spiritual growth.
Two Hats, One Mission – Personal recovery and professional roles must remain distinct.
Cumberland Heights Legacy – A beacon for 12-step rooted, clinically excellent care.
“Do my principles hold up when the mortgage is due, when my boss is on me about admissions? A principle is not malleable—it’s either firm or it’s not.” – Steve Lee
Cumberland Heights Treatment Center: https://www.cumberlandheights.org
Arch Academy (Adolescent Treatment): https://www.archacademy.org
Still Waters (12-Step Immersion for Men): https://www.stillwatersrecovery.org
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery
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Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw
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#SteveLee #CumberlandHeights #FindingNewWatersPodcast #12StepRecovery #EthicsInRecovery #AddictionTreatment #SpiritualRecovery #RecoveryLeadership #ArchAcademy #StillWatersRecovery
In this profound and soul-stirring conversation, yoga teacher, doula, writer, and advocate Andrea Boyd dives into a wide-ranging discussion about self-anarchy, healing through breath and movement, the ancient wisdom of yoga and meditation, and the importance of reconnecting with our intuition. Drawing from her decades of teaching and personal experience, Andrea shares insight into self-governance, plant-based living, spiritual sovereignty, and the power of stillness in a noisy world. Whether you’re curious about yoga or on your own journey of recovery and transformation, this episode offers grounding truths and a deep sense of possibility.
[00:00] Welcome & Intro
[01:30] What is Self-Anarchy?
[05:00] Reclaiming Inner Wisdom & the Power of No
[08:00] Why “New Waters” is a Sacred Metaphor
[11:00] The Purpose of Shavasana & Constant Rebirth
[15:00] Connecting Breath, Spirit, and the Body
[18:00] Andrea’s Journey into Yoga
[24:00] Meditation as Self-Validation & Stillness
[32:00] Food, Energy, and Going Plant-Based
[40:00] Why What We Say to Ourselves Matters
[45:00] Self-Governance and Tuning Your Own Instrument
[49:00] Letting Go of Conditioning and Choosing a New Path
Self-Anarchy: Trusting your internal compass and governing yourself from within.
Yoga as Rebirth: Every class, every breath offers the potential for renewal.
Healing Through Breath: The diaphragm, lungs, and body are tools for self-liberation.
Plant-Based Living: Her shift toward veganism as a transformative spiritual decision.
Meditation as Witnessing: Not silencing the mind, but observing it with compassion.
Sacred Practice of Stillness: Why 3 minutes of stillness can change your day.
“Self-anarchy is being able to govern your own body and mind with your innate wisdom—on a cellular level, from eons ago.” – Andrea Boyd
Andrea Boyd is a globally respected yoga teacher, birth doula, author, speaker, and advocate for human and animal rights. Based in Charleston, SC, Andrea has been teaching yoga for over 22 years, leading transformative classes and workshops grounded in ancient philosophy and lived experience. She is the author of The Depth of Birth, hosts retreats and birth education programs, and continues to explore the intersection of personal sovereignty, conscious parenting, and embodied healing. Visit her website to learn more: www.andreaboydyoga.com
Instagram: @andreaboydyoga
Andrea’s Website: https://www.andreaboydyoga.com
Book: The Depth of Birth by Andrea Boyd
Documentary: Earthlings (narrated by Joaquin Phoenix)
Yoga Sutras of Patanjali
The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle
Emoto Water Experiment
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Andrew Maloof, co-founder and CEO of Eagle Creek Ranch Recovery in Boise, Idaho. Andrew reflects on his 12 years of sobriety, his journey from working in Las Vegas nightclubs to owning a treatment center, and how a moment of spiritual surrender changed everything. Together, they dive into what makes treatment effective, why hospitality and connection matter in recovery, and the power of simply showing up.
Whether you’re sober-curious, in long-term recovery, or supporting a loved one, Andrew’s humility, humor, and real-life experience offer deep insight and encouragement.
Timestamps:
[00:00] Welcome & Introduction
[01:00] Sobriety Milestones & The Masters Moment
[04:00] Following Directions: A Recipe for Recovery
[08:00] Fellowship, Inventory, and Staying Connected
[12:00] Embarrassment vs. Empowerment in Getting Sober
[17:00] From UNLV to Las Vegas Nightclubs to Recovery
[20:00] Founding Eagle Creek Ranch Recovery
[24:00] Hospitality in Treatment: Why It Matters
[29:00] That First Honest Prayer
[32:00] Living the Easier, Softer Way
[36:00] Just Show Up: Final Reflections
Key Topics:
The importance of connection in early and ongoing recovery
How hospitality plays a key role in healing environments
The founding of Eagle Creek Ranch and their philosophy of care
What makes a treatment experience truly transformational
Why showing up beats pretending every time
Guest Bio:
Andrew Maloof is the co-founder and CEO of Eagle Creek Ranch Recovery, a residential treatment center for men based in Idaho. With a background in hospitality management from UNLV and a personal recovery journey spanning more than a decade, Andrew combines professional excellence with lived experience. He’s passionate about creating healing spaces grounded in compassion, accountability, and the 12 Steps.
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Powerful Quote:
“Just show up. Be on time. Be present. You can’t pretend to care, but you can’t pretend to show up.”
