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Drum Syndicate Podcast
Bill Hartel and Marcos de la Cruz
23 episodes
1 week ago
Drum Syndicate Podcast is designed to inspire, educate and entertain the drum community. Bill Hartel and Marcos de la Cruz bring 100 years of drumming experience to this interview podcast. Bill is a full time drum teacher and recording drummer that has "Land of Drums" YouTube channel and website. Marcos is the owner and engineer of Firefly Music Studio as well as a freelance drummer with several bands in the Orange County, Ca area.
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Drum Syndicate Podcast is designed to inspire, educate and entertain the drum community. Bill Hartel and Marcos de la Cruz bring 100 years of drumming experience to this interview podcast. Bill is a full time drum teacher and recording drummer that has "Land of Drums" YouTube channel and website. Marcos is the owner and engineer of Firefly Music Studio as well as a freelance drummer with several bands in the Orange County, Ca area.
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Episodes (20/23)
Drum Syndicate Podcast
Drum Historian Rob Cook Pt. 2

Join us for the second installment of our in-depth conversation with renowned drum historian Rob Cook, as we delve into the rich tapestry of percussion history. In this episode, Rob shares captivating stories and insights on:

  • 🥁 The fierce rivalry between Ludwig and Slingerland, two titans of American drum manufacturing.
  • 🐄 The traditional use of calfskin heads and their role in drum sound evolution.
  • 🎛️ The inception of the mylar drumhead and its transformative impact on drum sound and durability.
  • 🔥 The Slingerland reboot and Roland's strategic involvement with DW's electronic kits.
  • 🎨 The evolution of drum finishes, from classic wraps to modern innovations.
  • 🌲 The unique all-wood drums produced during World War II due to metal shortages.
  • 🥇 Rob's personal favorite snare drum and what makes it stand out.
  • 🎷 Anecdotes and stories about the legendary Buddy Rich.
  • 📉 The decline of iconic American drum companies and the subsequent rise of Japanese manufacturers.
  • 🥁 The legacy of WFL III drums and their place in modern drumming.
  • 🌟 "Traps, The Drum Wonder" - Buddy Rich, child prodigy.
  • 📚 A sneak peek into Rob's upcoming cymbal book, exploring the history and artistry of cymbal making.
  • 🌳 An exploration of the Zildjian family tree and its impact on cymbal craftsmanship.
  • [The Slingerland Book](https://hudsonmusic.com/product/the-s...)
  • [The Rogers Drum Book](https://www.amazon.com/Rogers-Book-Ro...)
  • [The Ludwig Book](https://www.namm.org/library/oral-his...)
  • [Rebeats Official Website](https://rob7476.wixsite.com/rebeats)
  • [Not So Modern Drummer Magazine](https://www.notsomoderndrummer.com/no...)

Rob Cook is the founder of Rebeats and the Chicago Drum Show, and the author of several definitive books on drum history, including *The Slingerland Book*, *The Rogers Drum Book*, *The Gretsch Book and *The Ludwig Book*. His extensive research and passion for percussion have made him a leading authority in the field.Don't miss this enlightening journey through the annals of drumming history with one of its most dedicated historians.📌 *Subscribe* to our channel for more deep dives into the world of drums and percussion.📖 **Explore Rob Cook's Publications**:🔗 **Connect with Rob Cook**:\#DrumHistory #RobCook #VintageDrums #PercussionLegacy #drumtalks landofdrumshttps://fireflymusicstudio.com/Intro music by FARRINGTON, drums by Marcos de la Cruz Outro music by Bill Hartel\#DrumHistory #RobCook #VintageDrums #LudwigVsSlingerland #BuddyRich #MylarDrumHeads #ElectronicDrums #ZildjianFamily #WFLIIIDrums #ChicagoDrumShow

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4 months ago
35 minutes 18 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Drum Historian Rob Cook Pt. 1

Drum Historian Rob Cook – Part 1: Inside the Legacy of Iconic Drum Brands Join us for an enlightening journey into the world of vintage drums with esteemed author and historian Rob Cook. In this first installment, Rob delves deep into the rich histories of legendary drum companies and the pivotal moments that shaped modern drumming.📚 *Exploring Drum Company Histories:*Rob shares insights from his comprehensive works, including *The Ludwig Book*, *The Slingerland Book*, *The Rogers Book*, and *The Gretsch Drum Book*. These texts chronicle the evolution of these iconic brands, offering a detailed look at their contributions to the drumming world .🎤 *Endorsements and Iconic Drummers:*Discover the intriguing story behind Ringo Starr's association with Ludwig Drums. Despite not having a formal endorsement, Ringo's use of Ludwig drums catapulted the brand into the spotlight during the Beatles' rise to fame .🏪 *Frank's Drum Shop – A Chicago Landmark:*Rob reminisces about Frank's Drum Shop, a cornerstone of Chicago's music scene from 1938 to 1978. Under the ownership of Maurie Lishon, the shop became a haven for drummers seeking quality instruments and expert advice .🎪 *The Chicago Drum Show:*Learn about the origins of the Chicago Drum Show, founded by Rob in 1991. This event has grown into a premier gathering for drum enthusiasts, showcasing vintage and custom drum gear while fostering a sense of community among drummers .🔧 *Innovations in Drum Design:*Rob discusses significant advancements in drum construction, such as Ludwig's internal mufflers and the introduction of Vistalite acrylic drums in 1972 . He also touches on the development of the Octa-Plus kit, popularized by session drummer Hal Blaine .🏭 *Camco Drum Company's Legacy:*Explore the history of the Camco Drum Company, known for its high-quality drums and hardware. After ceasing operations in 1977, Camco's assets were acquired by Drum Workshop, influencing modern drum manufacturing .🔒 *Rogers' Memory Lock Innovation:*Understand the impact of Rogers' introduction of the memory lock system, a hardware innovation that set new standards in drum stability and has been widely adopted by other manufacturers .In a previous interview with JR Robinson https://youtu.be/dQH2CUUiA7s?si=jdJ2Jy10qFdlLgni

he revealed the DW reboot of Slingerland and shared his thoughts on DW's involvement with Gretsch. After our interview with Rob, he shared his thoughts on the DW/Gretsch situation via email.Here's his reply - " It occurred to me what JR probably meant about Gretsch going away. As I mentioned via Zoom it is a rather complicated situation and I did not explain it very well. Here is the deal:-DW had an agreement with Fred W Gretsch to build (in Savannah) and distribute the American-made Gretsch drums in the USA. DW also had an agreement with Hal Leonard to distribute Gretsch import drums in the USA.-GEWA is a large music distributor and manufacturer in Germany that had been distributing DW drums in Germany, and they began to build their own line of high-end electronic drums which were directly competing with Roland V-Drums. GEWA began to export their electronic drums in the USA shortly before Roland bought DW.-When Roland bought DW, the agreement with GEWA to distribute DW drums in Germany was terminated. This was because Roland is a competitor of GEWA.-GEWA negotiated with DW and/or Fred W Gretsch and arranged to build (in Savannah still) and distribute American-made Gretsch drums in Germany, AND in the USA. They (GEWA) also now sell the Gretsch import drums in the USA, through Hal Leonard.-DW did not mind giving up USA distribution of Gretsch, since they are developing Slingerland.


rebeats.comlandofdrums.comhttps://fireflymusicstudio.com/Intro music by FarringtonOutro music by Bill Hartel\#RobCook\#VintageDrums\#LudwigDrums\#GretschDrums\#DrumHistory\#ChicagoDrumShow\#RingoStarr\#DrumCollector\#SlingerlandDrums\#DrumGear

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4 months ago
50 minutes 49 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Katrina and the Waves Drummer Alex Cooper Pt.2

Alex discusses touring with Fleetwood Mac, The Kinks and the Beach Boys, re-recording Walking On Sunshine, his health regimen, his choice of sticks, and reforming The Waves with bassist Vince de la Cruz.https://katrinaandthewaves.com/landofdrums.comhttps://fireflymusicstudio.com/1. #AlexCooper 2. #KatrinaAndTheWaves 3. #WalkingOnSunshine 4. #DrummerLife 5. #ClassicRock 6. #FleetwoodMac 7. #TheKinks 8. #BeachBoys 9. #RockLegends 10. #BehindTheMusic

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5 months ago
35 minutes 43 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Katrina and the Waves Drummer Alex Cooper Pt.1

Alex discusses recording the smash hit "Walking On Sunshine", Nile Rodgers' involvement, overcoming back pain, co-managing a band, shooting videos and losing 3-4 lbs of sweat per gig!

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7 months ago
38 minutes 48 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Lenny Kravitz Drummer Zoro Interview Pt.2

In this episode Zoro discusses studio techniques, his memoir, "Maria's Scarf", attending Berklee College of Music, meeting Lenny Kravitz, playing at the Modern Drummer Festival, playing with Frankie Valli, Bobby Brown, avoiding drugs and alcohol, favorite drummers and much more. https://zorothedrummer.com/L landofdrums.com https://fireflymusicstudio.com/

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9 months ago
53 minutes 52 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Lenny Kravitz Drummer Zoro Interview Pt.1

In this episode Zoro discusses his rise out of a difficult childhood, playing with New Edition, doing clinics, the job of a drummer, his new book and much more.

Intro music: Marcos de la Cruz with Farrington

https://fireflymusicstudio.com/

Outro Drumming: Bill Hartel

https://www.landofdrums.com/

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10 months ago
47 minutes 56 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Studio Legend James Gadson Interview Pt.2

In part two James discusses Jeff Porcaro, working with Smokey Robinson and Donald Fagen, bass drum tuning, recording "Reunited" and " Got To Be Real" in one or two takes, his bout with cancer, and the one snare drum he values the most and much more...


https://fireflymusicstudio.com

landofdrums.com

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10 months ago
16 minutes 39 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Studio Legend James Gadson Interview Pt.1

In this episode James discusses his early career, recording at Motown studios, recording with the Jackson 5, The Miracles and drumming on the top 2 dance songs of all time and much more.

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11 months ago
32 minutes 47 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Tommy Campbell Interview Pt. 2

In this episode Tommy discusses going to Berklee College of Music, playing in odd meters, favorite drummers, getting mugged in New York City and much more...

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11 months ago
25 minutes 11 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Tommy Campbell Interview

In Part 1 New York Jazz Drummer Tommy Campbell discusses Berklee College of Music , playing with Kevin Eubanks, Dizzy Gillespie and John McLaughlin. He also talks about overcoming nerves, Zildjian Day ‘84, his set up, favorite music, and injuries.

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1 year ago
41 minutes 20 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Bill Ward's Drummer Ronnie Ciago Interview

Ronnie discusses attending Berklee College of Music which led to gigs with Mick Taylor (Rolling Stones) jamming with Richie Blackmore's Rainbow and Paul Rodgers. Recording sessions with Rikki Lee Jones, Jack Douglas and being the drummer for Bill Ward's band.

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1 year ago
40 minutes 26 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
World's Most Recorded Drummer "JR" Robinson 2024 Part 2

JR discusses brutal recording sessions (25 takes per song for Bob Seger), his forthcoming book, clearing the room for the "We Are The World" session, his favorite artists and much more.




⁠fireflymusicstudio.com⁠

https://www.landofdrums.com/

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1 year ago
43 minutes 47 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
World's Most Recorded Drummer "JR" Robinson 2024 Part 1

Top session drummer John "JR" Robinson discusses recording with Michael Jackson, essential studio gear, working with click tracks, recording with David Lee Roth and compares with a Quincy Jones and Ted Templeman.

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1 year ago
46 minutes 40 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Black Sabbath/Dio Drummer Vinny Appice Interview Pt.2 2024

Vinny discusses meeting Buddy Rich, his new project Sabbath Knights, working with different producers and seeing Zeppelin open for Vanilla Fudge.

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1 year ago
30 minutes 14 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Black Sabbath/Dio Drummer Vinny Appice Interview Pt.1 2024

Episode 9 features Black Sabbath/Dio drummer Vinny Appice. He discusses playing with John Lennon, Black Sabbath and Dio as well as hand technique, studio recording, drum tuning and much more!

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1 year ago
33 minutes 42 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Simon Kirke Pt.2

Episode 8 features world renowned drummer Simon Kirke. He has played with Free, Bad Company, Led Zeppelin, Ringo Starr and Lone Rider. He has also released many of his own solo recordings as well. Here in part 2 he discusses equipment choices, playing guitar, keeping time, Ringo Starr, Free, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Bad Company and much more.

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1 year ago
36 minutes 37 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Simon Kirke

Episode 7 features world renowned drummer Simon Kirke. He has played with Free, Bad Company, Led Zeppelin, Ringo Starr and Lone Rider. He has also released many of his own solo recordings as well. Here he discusses his time in Free and Bad Company, playing with Led Zeppelin, recording at Headley Grange, drum technique, his favorite snare drum and overcoming substance abuse.

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1 year ago
36 minutes 32 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Jimmy Ford Pt. 2

Episode 6 features World Class drummer and drum builder Jimmy Ford. Jimmy has worked with icons like Lionel Hampton, Dizzy Gillespie, Harry Connick Jr. and Freddie Hubbard. Jimmy discusses time and feel for drummers, ride cymbal technique, working with Lionel Hampton and much more...

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1 year ago
56 minutes 9 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Jimmy Ford

Episode 5 features World Class drummer and drum builder Jimmy Ford. Jimmy has worked with icons like Lionel Hampton, Dizzy Gillespie, Harry Connick Jr. and Freddie Hubbard. Jimmy expands on his early teachers, growing up in New York, seeing Buddy Rich at age 8 and the art of drum building.

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1 year ago
45 minutes 33 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Eric Garten

Episode Four features producer/engineer Eric Garten, who has worked with Josh Freese, Taylor, Hawkins and Jonathan Moffett. Eric discusses past and present drum recording techniques, favorite drum sounds and the day Taylor Hawkins offered to buy his studio. 

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1 year ago
43 minutes 28 seconds

Drum Syndicate Podcast
Drum Syndicate Podcast is designed to inspire, educate and entertain the drum community. Bill Hartel and Marcos de la Cruz bring 100 years of drumming experience to this interview podcast. Bill is a full time drum teacher and recording drummer that has "Land of Drums" YouTube channel and website. Marcos is the owner and engineer of Firefly Music Studio as well as a freelance drummer with several bands in the Orange County, Ca area.