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Discourse Lab
Clayton Smith and Anthony Rispo
18 episodes
1 day ago
Co-hosts Anthony Rispo and Clayton Smith, along with their ideologically diverse suite of guests, use conversation to test ideas, analyze arguments, and question dogmas.
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Co-hosts Anthony Rispo and Clayton Smith, along with their ideologically diverse suite of guests, use conversation to test ideas, analyze arguments, and question dogmas.
Show more...
News Commentary
Society & Culture,
Philosophy,
News
Episodes (18/18)
Discourse Lab
The Left is Dead, Long Live the Left (A Conversation with Erin Hagood)

In this episode the boys are joined by Erin Hagood. Erin is a History PhD student at Columbia University and president of the Platypus Affiliated Society. Erin is a wealth of knowledge regarding the history and philosophy of the left. Listen to this conversation if you want to learn about the origins of leftism, the definition of Marxism, and much more!

If you walk away from this episode with more questions than you started with, that's ok! We cover A LOT in a relatively short period of time. After we stopped recording we all agreed Erin would have to come back on a few more times so we can really get into the weeds.

Please don't forget to follow us on social media, and rate and review us on your podcast player of choice.

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1 day ago
1 hour 42 minutes

Discourse Lab
The Chat Got Leaked. They Are Cooked (Fr Fr).

In this episode the boys discuss Greta Thunberg’s claim that she was tortured in Israeli custody, why they think Israeli statehood is legitimate, the recent “Young” Republicans group chat leak, and more!

Mentioned in this episode:
- Politico article about the leaked YR group chat

Support us:
- Follow us on social media, and rate and review us on your podcast player of choice.
- Buy from our recommended reading list!

Note: There was a ~20 minute section toward the end that the lads decided wasn't very good and would have been a bore to listen to, so they cut it out. That's why you hear that funky lo-fi tune at the 1:19:47 mark. 

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2 weeks ago
1 hour 21 minutes

Discourse Lab
Gaza, Conversion Therapy, and The Woke Right

In this episode the boys discuss why it's difficult for the pro-Palestine crowed to get excited about the possibility of peace in Gaza, the merits of the Chiles v. Salazar conversion therapy case, and wether or not "woke right" is a real thing.

Mentioned in this episode:
- This is what the Woke Right is by Ani O'Brian

Please don't forget to follow us on social media, and rate and review us on your podcast player of choice.

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3 weeks ago
1 hour 49 minutes

Discourse Lab
The Gaza Peace Plan, Sora II, and Book Recommendations

In this episode the boys discuss the recent Gaza peace plan and the newly released AI video generator, Sora II. They also give you their book recommendations!

Mentioned in this episode:

  • Trump’s 20 Point Plan
  • Haviv Rettig Gur’s thoughts on the Trump plan

Anthony's 5 books to help you master you emotions:

  1. Man’s Search For Meaning  
  2. 7 1/2 Lessons About The Brain  
  3. Emotional Agility 
  4. The Courage To Be Disliked 
  5. Meditations 

Clay's 5 books to help you understand the how the modern world order emerged:

  1. Prisoners of Geography 
  2. American Nations
  3. The End of the World is Just the Beginning 
  4. Dominion 
  5. Animal Farm

If you want to support what we're doing and help us grow, there are a few quick and easy ways to do so...

  • Rate and review us on your podcast player of choice 
  • Follow us on social media (you can find all our links here)
  • Use our Amazon affiliate links to buy any books we mention in the podcast. We'll always include them in the description. 
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4 weeks ago
1 hour 7 minutes

Discourse Lab
Finding Common Ground (A Conversation with an Anti-Polarization Crusader)

In this episode the boys are joined by Tony Vanderhoef. Tony is currently studying at Florida State University College of Law, where he is specializing in constitutional law. When he's not hitting the books, he is posting  political news updates on his Instagram, or writing his newsletter, Common Ground (for which he has another Instagram). Tony's on a mission is to provide unbiased, reliable news, and to do his part to combat political polarization.  
 
Listen to this episode to get insights on the need for a more inclusive and centrist approach in politics, hear about the importance of communication between differing viewpoints, the impact of media framing on public perception, and much more!

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1 month ago
1 hour 20 minutes

Discourse Lab
Hate Speech is Free Speech (A conversation with the former president of the ACLU)

In this episode, the boys are joined by Nadine Strossen. Nadine is a civil liberties lawyer, legal scholar, activist, and author who's notable accomplishments are too numerous to list in totality. However, she is perhaps most famous for serving as the first female president of the ACLU from 1991 to 2008. Her books include such titles as Hate: Why We Should Resist It with Free Speech, Not Censorship and, most recently, The War on Words: 10 Arguments Against Free Speech — And Why They Fail.

Listen to this episode to hear about the chilling effects of cancel culture, the nuances of first amendment law, why censorship is not the answer to hate speech, and much more!

Some of Nadine's other books:
- Defending Pornography: Free Speech, Sex, and the Fight for Women's Rights
- Free Speech: What Everyone Needs to Know

IMPORTANT UPDATE! -> If you want to support what we're doing, please use the links we provide in the show notes to purchase any of our guests' work. If you do, Amazon will give us a little kickback that we can use to improve the pod and grow our audience. Thank you!

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1 month ago
1 hour 16 minutes

Discourse Lab
Charlie Kirk, Empathy, and Political Violence

In this episode the boys discuss the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk. They explore the reactions from both the left and right and the psychological underpinnings of political violence. Listen to this episode to also hear about the different types of empathy, the latest FIRE college free speech rankings, Jungian archetypes, and much more.

Don't forget to follow us on social media, and subscribe on YouTube and Substack!

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1 month ago
1 hour 47 minutes

Discourse Lab
Nikos Mohammadi (Non-Democrat Leftist)

In this episode the boys are joined by Nikos Mohammadi. Nikos is a rising sophomore at Columbia College and an aspiring writer. His work can be read in Sublation, Sundial, and the Substack Cracks in Postmodernity. Nikos offers insightful takes on Neoliberalism, Trump, Mamdani, and much more! 

Some examples of Nikos' writing include...
- MAGA Won. It Gave Us Zohran Mamdani.
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Deporting Mahmoud Khalil Is Anti-American
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How Ben Shapiro Lost My Generation

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2 months ago
1 hour 44 minutes

Discourse Lab
Mike Luso (News Theorist)

In this episode of Discourse Lab, the boys are joined by Mike Luso. Mike is a writer, content creator, and journalist. He hosts News Theory on YouTube, a video essay show that brings to light the different narratives and biases in media. Mike has also made several appearances on the Jubilee series Surrounded, most recently in a video titled 1 LGBTQ+ Activist vs 25 Conservatives (ft. Zander Moricz).

Listen to this episode to hear what it's like to be in a Jubilee video, learn what Mike thinks is what's wrong with modern media, and get his take on what it means to be a true Christian.

You can follow Mike on X and Instagram.

And don't forget to follow us on social media, and subscribe on YouTube and Substack!


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2 months ago
1 hour 53 minutes

Discourse Lab
Dr. Joe Duarte (Microagression Skeptic)

In this episode the boys are joined by Dr. Joe Duarte. Joe is a Social Psychologist who's work centers on political diversity, open inquiry, and methodological rigor in the behavioral sciences. He is perhaps best known for being the lead author of the 2015 paper Political diversity will improve social psychological science. Joe has been a prominent voice on how political bias undermines research outcomes and erodes public trust in science.

Listen to this episode if you want to hear what Joe thinks of the current state of social psychology, his opinions on so-called "microaggressions," why he believes most academics are scumbags, and much more!

Don't forget to follow us on social media, and subscribe on YouTube and Substack!

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2 months ago
1 hour 40 minutes

Discourse Lab
Sam Nahins (Loves Ukraine, Hates ISIS)

If you want to support Ukraine please donate to Ukrainian Relief Fund.

In this episode the boys are joined by Sam Nahins. Sam is a writer and former Air Force drone operator. He is currently pursuing an MFA at Columbia University. Sam has been featured on Fox News, Newsmax, French 24, and other programs, where he has been outspoken about his views on Israel, Ukraine, and campus protests. In the Summer of 2025 he spent a month traveling around Ukraine to get a better sense of what life is like for soldiers and civilians alike.

Listen to this episode to hear about Sam's experience in Ukraine, his hot take on who the leader of Russia should be, his thoughts on the war in Gaza, and much more!

You can read Sam's writing on The Line, where you'll find pieces such as Stage Names and A Choir of Crickets.

You can follow Sam on...

  • X
  • Instagram
  • Substack

Oh, and here is the article Clay wrote that features Sam and covers the tragic passing of Brandon Christie.

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2 months ago
1 hour 27 minutes

Discourse Lab
Daniel Idfresne (A Real New Yorker)

In this Episode the boys are joined by Daniel Idfresne. Daniel is a moderate-conservative thinker and commentator who’s writing has been featured in Real Clear Politics, The Free Press, and The New York Post, among others. He’s also a native New Yorker and rising senior at Syracuse University. 


Tune in to hear Daniel’s opinion on NYC Charter Schools, rent control, Zohran Mamdani’s primary victory, and much more!

You can check out some of his writing here:

  • Mamdani’s Trump-Proof New York: Safe Haven for Criminal Migrants?
  • Zohran Mamdani: ‘Working-Class’ Mayor for Upper Class Voters
  • A $20 Mistake: At-Risk Teens Will Pay for Cuomo’s Wage Hike
  • Companies Test Apple’s Playbook To Dodge Trump’s New Tariff Regime

Apologies for Anthony’s bad audio quality! He had some unexpected technical difficulties.

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3 months ago
1 hour 39 minutes

Discourse Lab
The Big Beautiful Episode

In the first part of this episode Clay flies solo. He humbly requests guest suggestions, and also offers a good faith response to some very critical instagram comments. In the second part the lads discuss the "Big Beautiful Bill" (finally!), or at least the parts of it that they found particularly interesting. This one is a bit long, so bonus points to anyone who makes it all the way to the end.

Please DM us on Instagram at @the_discourselab or email us at contactdiscourselab@gmail.com 
for guest suggestions (especially left-leaning ones)!

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3 months ago
2 hours 14 minutes

Discourse Lab
Jonas Du (Not a Fascist)

In this episode the boys are joined by Jonas Du, a Free Press Fellow and founder of Sundial, Columbia University's newest, most ideologically diverse student publication. Jonas shares his personal experience as a young conservative surrounded by mostly left-wing peers, and talks about what lead him to found Sundial. He also shares details about his latest article,Young, Hot, and Triumphant: Welcome to MAGA Summer. Tune in to get Du's takes on the rise of conservatism in Gen Z, the takeover of journalism by elites, and much more!

If you want to hear/read more from Jonas, you can follow him on...
- X
- Instagram
- Substack

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3 months ago
1 hour 55 minutes

Discourse Lab
Fascists, Commies, and Dudes Riding Elephants

In this episode of Discourse Lab, the boys dive into how ideology distorts research, discuss the strengths and weaknesses of moral foundations theory, and struggle (but ultimately succeed!) to explain P-values and P-hacking. 

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3 months ago
1 hour 44 minutes

Discourse Lab
What had happened was...

In this episode the boys explain why you're not getting a full length episode this week. Stay to the end to hear what Anthony and Clay love about the good ol' US of A! 

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3 months ago
33 minutes

Discourse Lab
The Mamdani Effect

In this episode, Anthony and Clay discuss NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani's socialist platform. Listen to this episode if you want hear about the merits of rent control (or lack thereof) , the psychological predisposition of the authoritarian left, the nuggets of gold in Zohran's platform, and much more! Sincerest apologies to Mr. Mamdani for mispronouncing his name on a number of occasions.

Oh, and the boys squeeze in a quick discussion about the innate differences between men and women in the last twenty minutes. Clay explains why he's recently become a bit more sexist, so listen until the end!

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4 months ago
1 hour 54 minutes

Discourse Lab
Welcome to Discourse Lab!

In this intro episode co-hosts Clay and Anthony introduce themselves and explain what they hope to do with Discourse Lab. Expect to learn why they stopped making The Columbia HxA Podcast, when new episodes will drop, why they chose the name "Discourse Lab," and more!

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4 months ago
1 hour

Discourse Lab
Co-hosts Anthony Rispo and Clayton Smith, along with their ideologically diverse suite of guests, use conversation to test ideas, analyze arguments, and question dogmas.