In this special episode of DejaVue, Alexander and Michael are joined by Daniel Roe and Sébastien Chopin to discuss the recent acquisition of NuxtLabs by Vercel. Questions like "Was Nuxt just sold", "How much influence has Vercel", and "What is Vercel excepting from the deal" are answered.
If you wonder what impact the deal has on Nuxt, you as a user and developer, as well as the open-source community, you should tune in!
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👉 Don't forget to join ViteConf on October 9-10 in Amsterdam
In this episode of DejaVue, Michael and Alexander look into the major release of Vite 7, including the move to ESM-only, dropping Node 18 support, and adopting the Baseline browser target.
They also discuss the evolving Environment API, upcoming changes in Rolldown-Vite, new Vite dev tools, and more.
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Big news in the Nuxt ecosystem. While you out there already know what has been announced - some of us didn't. Luckily, Daniel Roe, Head of the Nuxt team joins this DejaVue episode and discusses the highly anticipated "double trouble": Not one, but two major versions for Nuxt are on the horizon.
After over a year of delays, Daniel reveals the strategic decision to release Nuxt 4 in less than a month from now, followed by Nuxt 5 which will include the long-awaited Nitro 3 integration and significant Vite improvements.
The episode covers the smooth migration experience early adopters reported already, the philosophy behind careful breaking changes, and how the team plans to maintain a yearly major release cycle moving forward.
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Join Alex and Michael with special guest Sébastien Chopin, creator of Nuxt.js and CEO of NuxtLabs, to learn more about the origins and evolution of the Vue-based meta framework. Sébastien shares valuable lessons from open source, how he came to create Nuxt.js in the first place and which challenges came with it.
In the second part of the episode, they cover Sébastien's company NuxtLabs - from its inception over to taking Venture Capital and products, such as NuxtHub or Nuxt UI Pro.
Eventually, the NuxtLabs CEO also outlines how they handle sponsorships of maintainers, and what the future holds for Nuxt and NuxtLabs.
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In this episode of DejaVue, Michael and Alex chat with Matt Perry, the creator of Motion (formerly Framer Motion), about animations in web development.
Matt talks about his journey from designing gaming magazines as a kid to becoming a full-time developer, sharing his experiences with ActionScript, jQuery, and how Motion was born. They discuss how simple and powerful Motion's API is, its ability to work with different frameworks, and how it stacks up against other animation libraries like GSAP and AnimeJS.
But the episode also covers a lot of open source aspects, such as the challenges of keeping Motion going!
Matt explains how Motion+ funds the development of Motion with one-time payments and time-gated (then publicly available) content, to support the project.
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In this episode of DejaVue, Alex and Michael are joined by Jared Wilcurt, UI architect and open source contributor, to get knee-deep into the world of testing in Vue.js, especially Snapshot Testing.
Jared shares his journey from React frustration to Vue enthusiasm, and explains how he identified gaps in Vue's testing ecosystem that led to the creation of his Vue 3 Snapshot Serializer library.
No matter if you are a testing novice, wondering why you should bother with tests at all, or an experienced developer looking to improve your snapshot testing workflow, this episode got something for you - from reducing test noise, improving readability, and gaining confidence in your Vue applications and components.
Discover how snapshot testing complements traditional assertion-based tests and why it might be the missing piece in your testing strategy.
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In this episode of DejaVue, Alex sits down with James Garbutt, open source maintainer and lead of the e18e initiative. James shares his journey from writing web scrapers as a teenager to maintaining critical JavaScript libraries like parse5 or Chokidar and eventually co-creating the ecosystem performance initiative.
The conversation is then all around e18e, which aims to improve performance across the JavaScript ecosystem through three pillars:
James explains how the community-driven approach has produced impressive results all across the web development landscape.
Learn about real-world examples of performance improvements, including replacement packages like tinyglobby and nano-staged, and discover how to contribute to e18e even if you're new to open source. James shares also insights on balancing between backward compatibility and performance, bundling dependencies, and also shares future plans for e18e in 2025.
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Join hosts Michael Thiessen and Alexander Lichter for a special episode of DejaVue - a fascinating panel discussion on open source sustainability with three open source enthusiasts:
The panelists dive deep into what sustainability truly means in open source and get deep into the weeds of different licensing models, debating whether open source functions as a gift economy, and discuss the challenges of project governance.
The panel also discusses important questions about leadership structures in open source projects, the role of companies in funding development, and practical ways everyone can contribute to making the ecosystem more sustainable - whether financially or through other meaningful contributions.
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Rijk van Zanten - CTO and co-founder of Directus
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Nuxt 3.16 dropped and it's packed with goodies! In this episode, Alex and Michael break down all the cool stuff in this release that'll make your Nuxt development smoother.
They dive into the new command to initialize a Nuxt application, the performance-game-changing lazy hydration support that'll boost your app's performance, and named layer aliases (that you've been waiting for). Plus, huge performance improvements, better error messages with Nitro 2.11 and debugging improvements that'll save you hours of head-scratching.
But wait, there's more! The duo also geeks out over Nuxt UI v3, which (surprise!) now works with plain Vue.js too - not just Nuxt. Learn how it leverages Tailwind v4, introduces a sweet CSS variables-based design system, and builds on Reka UI primitives for better accessibility. And somehow, a discount code for Nuxt UI Pro* *cough DEJAVUE cough* gets snuck in there too!
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In episode 52 of DejaVue (yes, it is a whole year), Dennis Adriaansen joins Michael and Alex to discuss data visualization in Vue.js. Dennis shares insights about building chart components, his experience with different charting libraries, and introduces his own Vue charting library. They explore topics like chart customization, performance considerations, and integrating charts into dashboards.
The conversation also gets into broader topics such as open source sustainability, UI libraries, and backend integrations with Nuxt.
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Vite is amazing, I think we can all agree on that statement. But what is Vite actually!? Why is it so great, faster than webpack and the "de-facto standard of the web" already?
Alex is joined by Vite Core Team member Matias Capeletto, better known as Patak, to talk about all these questions.
Learn about the future of Vite, how it uses two bundlers under the hood and why almost every framework adopted it. Enjoy the episode!
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For episode number 50 (not 51 Alex!), Angular GDE and JetBrains DevRel Jan-Niklas Wortmann joins the show. Together with Michael and Alex they dive into Jan-Niklas' angle of being a DevRel, how framework communities are different and why people should give WebStorm a try. Beyond that, Volar and LSPs are also covered, as well as some new announcements!
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In this episode, Michael and Alex are joined by Aaron Francis, software developer, content creator, and co-founder of Try Hard Studios.
Besides covering Aaron's journey into programming, they dive into Fusion, a new library that Aaron has been working on which will fuse your Laravel backend together with your Vue frontend, allowing you to write PHP and Vue in the same file. The three developers dive deep into the technical details of Fusion, how it works under the hood, and also how the community reactions have been so far.
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AI is a hot topic in the tech industry, but how does it intersect with Vue.js?
In this special episode, Michael and Alex host a panel at Vue.js Nation 2025 and are joined by two amazing guests:
The four developers discuss how AI and Vue can work together. Will we all lose our jobs to AI? How does AI might influence the job market and which tips for Vue.js developers are the most important to know regarding using AI in their projects and workflows? You'll get answers to all these questions, and more in this episode.
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If you've listened to the last episode, you know what is coming next! It is time to get take a Vue at the other host of this podcast. Michael is asking Alex all around his past - from how we got into programming and web development, if university was worth it and how he got into the Nuxt Core Team.
Also don't miss out how Minecraft is part of the history, what non-tech job Alex would do if programming wouldn't be in the cards, and why is GitHub account is over 14 years old.
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The guest of this episode is one you've heard on here quite often - but do you also know him well? Together, we take a look (or Vue 👀) at Michael Thiessen, co-host of this podcast.
Learn how his average day looks like, how he became a full-time content creator and find out what he did before getting into Web Development, plus insights on how he created his first course and dealt with impostor syndrome.
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Together with the FormKit author Justin Schroeder, Michael and Alex discuss the challenges of building forms on the internet.
While it seems like a simple task, forms can be complex and pretty time-consuming. Especially when it is more than a Newsletter or Contact Form.
Justin shares his experience building FormKit (multiple times), a form library for Vue.js, and how it can help developers build forms faster and more efficiently. From Accessibility to actually covering edge cases such as form hydration and repopulation!
Of course, we couldn't let Justin go without talking about some of his hot takes from Vue in 2024, over to Vapor Mode, and Tailwind.
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After our recap episode on 2024, it is time to look into 2025 - and share our predictions and even some rather spicy hot takes what developers can expect in 2025. Of course, Michael and Alex once again have the Nuxt team Lead Daniel Roe on the show to get some insights on his takes as well!
Find out more about their thoughts on Vue Vapor, Nuxt 4, Conferences, Alien Signals, Vue 4, Nitro and many more topics that will be (most likely) relevant in this year.
While the focus is mainly Vue and Nuxt, topics around general Web Development are covered too - from AI to Open Source and the job market in 2025.
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Of course, we can't fully start into 2025 with a little ReVue of the past year. And to make sure to catch all the highlights, Alex is joined by Daniel Roe, full-time open source developer and lead of the Nuxt team to go through some notable events of 2024 in the Vue and Nuxt ecosystem.
In addition to the shining moments of 2024, don't miss out a deep dive into web fonts, learn why Nuxt 4 isn't out yet if you didn't know already and maybe even get a slight glimpse into 2025 and Nuxt 5.
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In this episode, Michael talks with Adam Jahr, Founder of Vue Mastery, all about creating technical content - and how this is relevant for you as a developer.
Tune in and figure out how Adam founded Vue Mastery, what his biggest learnings from his Coding Bootcamp times were and learn key tips that can set your content apart from others!
And as a bonus - learn what creating content, regardless the format, has to do with Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings.
Ready? Then wait no further
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