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Deconstruct
The Real Deal
136 episodes
7 months ago
In Deconstruct, The Real Deal breaks down the most important ideas in real estate. We follow the money from Los Angeles to New York City to explain what investors, brokers and developers are focused on right now. This is essential listening for understanding the great, big world of real estate.
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In Deconstruct, The Real Deal breaks down the most important ideas in real estate. We follow the money from Los Angeles to New York City to explain what investors, brokers and developers are focused on right now. This is essential listening for understanding the great, big world of real estate.
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Deconstruct
Will Trump be a net positive for commercial real estate?

President-elect Donald Trump's campaign promises look to be a mixed bag for commercial real estate. Extended tax cuts would be a boon for dealmaking; tariffs could spark inflation and push the Federal Reserve to throw the cutting cycle in reverse.

Deconstruct sits down with NYU Schack Institute of Real Estate Associate Dean Marc Norman and partners at Holland & Knight Joe Guay and Joel Roberson to parse the impact on investors and developers in 2025.

Do you have guests you want to hear from? Topics you want explored? Questions, feedback, critiques? Write to us with "Deconstruct" in the subject line @ suzannah.cavanaugh@therealdeal.com.

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11 months ago
16 minutes 26 seconds

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The guy holding the gavel at the Fortress v. Cohen auction

Matthew Mannion is auctioneer to the stars of New York City real estate. He handled the Flatiron Building's two-parter, the Times Square Margaritaville's flameout and most recently the UCC auction of Cohen Realty Enterprises' interest in a potpourri of assets.

As foreclosure filings keep ticking up, Mannion shares stories from the courthouse steps and the inside scoop on how auctions get done.

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11 months ago
23 minutes 4 seconds

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Investment lessons from 13th Floor's very active Arnaud Karsenti

Arnaud Karsenti, the head of Miami-based 13th Floor Investments, has a whopping dozen multifamily projects underway in a city set to break another record for deliveries in 2024. Does Miami have the tenants to meet that supply? Karsenti talks in-migration, demand for housing near public transit and the pros and cons of public-private partnerships at The Real Deal's South Florida Real Estate Forum.

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11 months ago
27 minutes 50 seconds

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The ultra-wealthy ride to ranchland

Ranches have long been at the beating heart of Texas — first, as working plots; then, as legacy land. During the pandemic, the properties acquired a new sheen, attracting city-weary Texans and would-be cowboys willing to spend tens of millions of dollars for some peace and quiet and peace of mind. Four years later, demand has come roaring back. TRD's Joe Lovinger talks with one of the state's prolific ranch brokers to find out what's drawing all of that dollar volume to the desert.

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11 months ago
21 minutes 45 seconds

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How real estate donors and housing-conscious voters will drive the election

Election 2024 has been a wild ride for real estate. Housing stole the spotlight as an unlikely bipartisan issue, and the industry’s top donors are allotting dollars based on more than the business. As the nation readies for Tuesday’s vote, TRD Senior Reporter Kathryn Brenzel explains why an “unsexy” voter issue will drive votes, and who big names are backing.

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1 year ago
18 minutes 30 seconds

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Inside the workout room with Iron Hound's Rob Verrone

In the latest episode of Deconstruct, TRD's Suzannah Cavanaugh finds out how loan specialists fix bad debt – or at least try to – by talking with loan workout specialists Rob Verrone and Job Warshaw of Iron Hound. Verrone works with sponsors to hash out modifications for distressed CMBS debt, and Warshaw brings perspective from the other side of the table — he spent three decades heading up negotiations for special servicer LNR Partners.

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1 year ago
30 minutes 19 seconds

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Has climate change become undeniable for real estate?

This month, two major hurricanes pummeled the southeastern U.S. As locals face the damage, the industry may be having its own reckoning with the existential threat severe weather poses to real estate. Or not. As developers respond to continued demand for high-risk real estate, and insurance premiums crush disaster-prone areas, Suzannah and Joe talk with South Florida reporters Katherine Kallergis and Kate Hinsche about the tension between the industry and Mother Nature.

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1 year ago
29 minutes 52 seconds

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The man who bet the bank on post-pandemic office

In less than one cycle, New Jersey-based investor Shaya Prager went from total unknown to the owner of millions of square feet in suburban office properties across the country. Now, as the market turns, he's mixed up with allegations of fraud and at risk of losing much of his fast-grown portfolio. On the latest episode of Deconstruct, TRD's Suzannah Cavanaugh and Joe Lovinger talk with fellow reporters Jess Hardin and Sam Lounsberry to break down the curious case of Shaya Prager.

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1 year ago
20 minutes 6 seconds

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We got a rate cut. Now what?

In the latest episode of Deconstruct... The Federal Reserve slashed interest rates 50 basis points last month to the euphoria of commercial real estate borrowers. One cut does little to move the needle. But the Fed is projecting more cuts to come. Deconstruct breaks down how three different scenarios could affect refinancings.

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1 year ago
17 minutes 30 seconds

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Tides Equities eyes a turning tide for multifamily

In the first episode of Deconstruct's fourth season, host Suzannah Cavanaugh and new co-host Joe Lovinger dive into the swelling concerns and a potential turning point for multifamily owners and operators. Listen for their analysis and Suzannah's conversation with Sean Kia and Ryan Andrade, principals of the fast-growing and oft-criticized Tides Equities.

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1 year ago
49 minutes 14 seconds

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WeWork’s Global Head of Real Estate on Emerging from Bankruptcy and What Comes Next

WeWork emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy last month after a herculean effort to cut costs. The task demanded the cooperation of hundreds of landlords and their lenders. Peter Greenspan, the coworking firm’s Global Head of Real Estate, brings Deconstruct to those negotiating tables for a look at how WeWork addressed 500 leases worldwide, and offers listeners a preview of the firm’s next chapter.

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1 year ago
32 minutes 28 seconds

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BGO's Chief Economist on The Fed's Next Move

Don't expect interest rates to drop back to zero. But your floating-rate loan may be a bit less painful by year's end. The Real Deal's Deconstruct chatted with BGO's Chief Economist Ryan Severino about when rate cuts will come, the data that shows a cooling economy and what risks the Federal Reserve runs if it cuts too little, too late.

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1 year ago
17 minutes 57 seconds

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Special Report: Alexander Twins Accused of Rape

Last week, The Real Deal broke the news that top broker Oren Alexander and his twin brother, Alon, had been accused of rape and sexual assault by at least two women. The complaints detail events that allegedly took place more than a decade ago. But the lawsuits and the nearly 30 people who came forward alleging similar incidents after the story published, according to an attorney representing the two women, speak to a pattern of alleged gender-based violence. Deconstruct speaks with South Florida Bureau Chief Katherine Kallergis, Reporter Sheridan Wall and Senior Editor Ellen Cranley about what we know so far.

_Warning: This episode includes descriptions of alleged sexual assault.

_This episode was recorded Friday, June 14; this is a developing story.

Katherine Kallergis can be reached at kk@therealdeal.com. Sheridan Wall can be reached at sheridan.wall@therealdeal.com. Editor Ellen Cranley can be reached at ellen.cranley@therealdeal.com.
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1 year ago
16 minutes 16 seconds

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How to Jumpstart a Stalled Condo Project

Real estate attorney Isaac Kodsi nabbed Arbor Residences out of foreclosure in late 2023 with two goals: revive the dead condo project and return deposits to former buyers. Not a year later, Kodsi says he nailed the latter goal and is on track to wrap construction by the end of 2024. South Florida Bureau Chief Katherine Kallergis interviewed Kodsi on how he paid back buyers and where sales, led by Sandra Masis of Cervera Real Estate, now stand.

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1 year ago
21 minutes 20 seconds

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Opportunity, Opportunity, Opportunity: Goldman Sachs' Alternative Capital Lead on Real Estate Lending

Last month, Goldman Sachs announced it closed a new real estate credit fund, capable of handing out more than $7 billion. And with regional banks and other financial institutions reeling back their exposure to commercial real estate, Goldman Sachs sees this as the perfect time to get in on the action. Deconstruct chatted with Goldman Sachs' co-head of alternative capital formation, Jeff Fine, what asset classes it's excited about and the opportunity for private credit in real estate.

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1 year ago
27 minutes 24 seconds

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Dealing with Syndications 101 with LP Adviser Aleksey Chernobelskiy

Aleksey Chernobelskiy has many pieces of advice for retail investors writing checks for syndicated real estate deals. But, one of the most important: you could lose it all. As many syndicators — firms that pool equity to buy property — grapple with distress, thanks to rising interes rates, investors have been stuck in the crosshairs trying to determine whether to pump more money into a struggling deal, or walk away.

Deconstruct chatted with Chernobelskiy about syndicator best practices, what retail investors should know about real estate investing, feeder funds tapping wealth for these deals and what LPs can do if everything goes wrong.

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1 year ago
27 minutes 41 seconds

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Developer Sam Charney Dissects New York's 421a Extension and New Tax Break on the Block 485x

Last month, Gov. Kathy Hochul passed a bombshell housing deal that extended the 421a tax abatement and introduced a new tax break for apartment projects: 485x. Developer Sam Charney of Charney Companies talks the profit potential of 485x compared to 421a, demand for sites eligible for the extension and when rental construction will ramp back up.

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1 year ago
26 minutes 55 seconds

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Deconstruct Live! Talks Bank Failures, Multifamily Fears with Fortress, Benefit Street and Urban Standard

It's Deconstruct Live! at The Real Deal's New York Forum. Fortress' Steve Stuart, Benefit Street Partners' Mike Comparato and Urban Standard Capital's Seth Weissman talk bank failures, distressed note buying and lending demand in a live taping of Deconstruct.

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1 year ago
30 minutes 22 seconds

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What Marijuana's Reclassifying Means For Pot Shops and Cannabis Capital

Last week, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration said it would move toward reclassifying marijuana as a less dangerous drug — Schedule III instead of Schedule I. The move has big implications for the intersection of cannabis and real estate. Founder and CEO of cannabis REIT NewLake Capital Partners Anthony Coniglio talks tax relief and opportunity for state-licensed operators and capital providers like NewLake.

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1 year ago
21 minutes 31 seconds

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Looking at the Legislation Critical to Making Office-to-Residential Conversions Work

It's not just tax credits. It's not just zoning by right. To make office-to-residential conversion projects work, developers need all of the above, says Bobby Fijan of Philadelphia-based Form Developers. TRD's Deconstruct chatted with Fijan about some of the legislation, policies, subsidies and programs across the country that have helped push these conversions forward.

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1 year ago
32 minutes 41 seconds

Deconstruct
In Deconstruct, The Real Deal breaks down the most important ideas in real estate. We follow the money from Los Angeles to New York City to explain what investors, brokers and developers are focused on right now. This is essential listening for understanding the great, big world of real estate.