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CZ and Friends
Cecilia Ziniti
16 episodes
5 days ago
High performance without ego - that’s the playbook at Verkada. General Counsel Bill Berry and Senior Counsel, Privacy & Policy Ariana Goodell join Cecilia Ziniti to share how they build a legal org people love to work with—one that ships products, earns trust, and stays close to the business. They get tactical on product launches, privacy-by-design, and how to “be in the boat” with engineering and marketing. They also break down AI’s real impact on in-house work: faster first drafts, sha...
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High performance without ego - that’s the playbook at Verkada. General Counsel Bill Berry and Senior Counsel, Privacy & Policy Ariana Goodell join Cecilia Ziniti to share how they build a legal org people love to work with—one that ships products, earns trust, and stays close to the business. They get tactical on product launches, privacy-by-design, and how to “be in the boat” with engineering and marketing. They also break down AI’s real impact on in-house work: faster first drafts, sha...
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Episodes (16/16)
CZ and Friends
Culture as Strategy: Bill Berry & Ariana Goodell on Trust, Boundaries & Better
High performance without ego - that’s the playbook at Verkada. General Counsel Bill Berry and Senior Counsel, Privacy & Policy Ariana Goodell join Cecilia Ziniti to share how they build a legal org people love to work with—one that ships products, earns trust, and stays close to the business. They get tactical on product launches, privacy-by-design, and how to “be in the boat” with engineering and marketing. They also break down AI’s real impact on in-house work: faster first drafts, sha...
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5 days ago
52 minutes

CZ and Friends
Courage and Conscience: Jordan Breslow on Integrity and Plain English Lawyering
When everyone said yes, Jordan Breslow said no, and that decision kept his company out of scandal. The longtime Silicon Valley GC (Geoworks, Opsware, Silver Spring Networks, Etsy) joins host Cecilia Ziniti to share what decades inside tech taught him about courage, integrity, and how to stand by your instincts when the pressure is high. He tells the now-legendary story of advising Ben Horowitz not to backdate stock options just before the Silicon Valley scandal broke, explains why he sent Ets...
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1 week ago
38 minutes

CZ and Friends
Original by Design: Holly Hogan on AI Guardrails and Leading with Authenticity
Holly Hogan has built her career leading through change, from nearly a decade scaling Automattic (WordPress.com, Tumblr, Day One) to her new role as General Counsel at Deepgram, a frontier voice AI company. In this episode, she shares how to create AI guardrails that enable innovation, why “clear prompting reflects clear thinking,” and how small language shifts can transform how legal teams work and are perceived. You’ll hear: – What it means to be a “GC-in-Residence” at Mayer Brown and why f...
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2 weeks ago
45 minutes

CZ and Friends
Ask.com to AI: Doug Leeds on Curiosity, Persuasion, and Reinventing Leadership
Doug Leeds has lived through multiple technology booms—from the early internet to today’s AI wave. As CEO of Ask.com and IAC Publishing, he went head-to-head with Google, scaled digital publishing, and even pivoted a search engine by partnering with his fiercest competitor. Today, Doug teaches leadership and persuasion at UC Berkeley’s Haas School of Business and is co-founding a nonprofit, Really Simple Licensing, to create a licensing protocol for AI and the open web. Follow Doug: @Do...
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1 month ago
39 minutes

CZ and Friends
Instacart Legal: Making AI Everyday Practice
Today’s guests are Nicole Altman, Senior Counsel, and Kelly Noguchi, Senior Legal Technology and Operations Manager, at Instacart. They are helping shape how a public company’s legal team experiments with, adopts, and scales AI. Together, they show what innovation looks like when it is encouraged and operationalized. You’ll hear: – How Instacart Legal made AI exploration part of team and company-wide goals – Why curiosity and a learning mindset are the foundation for adoption – Real examples ...
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1 month ago
49 minutes

CZ and Friends
Telehealth, Trust, and AI: How Legal Scales Healthcare
Today’s guest is Ali Hartley, Chief Legal Officer at SimplePractice. Ali has spent her career navigating healthcare’s toughest challenges at Sutter Health, Favor, and Carbon Health before stepping in to help scale SimplePractice. Along the way, she’s shown how legal can be more than compliance–it can be a growth engine. You’ll hear: – How telehealth regulations during the pandemic opened unexpected opportunities – Why trust is the foundation of every legal and business partnership she builds ...
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1 month ago
49 minutes

CZ and Friends
Move Fast, Build Trust: Peter Katz on Scaling Legal at Duo & Expel
Peter Katz (GC at Expel; former first GC at Duo Security) shares how he scaled legal inside high-growth cybersecurity companies while keeping the business moving. He explains why great in-house lawyering starts with relationships, clear risk choices, and the humility to say “I don’t know - yet.” You’ll hear: – Why Peter left firm life in year four and chose Vanguard to build business context and people management skills – Building the legal startup inside the startup at Duo—through dual-track...
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1 month ago
36 minutes

CZ and Friends
Cleared for Takeoff: Kerrie Forbes on Playing Fair and Building Legal Strategy in Aviation
From 16 years at Southwest to leading legal at JSX, Kerrie Forbes knows what it means to navigate turbulence—regulatory battles, competitor challenges, and high-stakes litigation—while keeping fairness and trust as her North Star. In this episode, she reveals how legal leaders can find clarity at 30,000 feet and on the ground. You’ll hear: – How JSX operates under FAA and TSA frameworks while delivering a 20-minute airport experience – Turning adversarial airport disputes into ribbon-cuttin...
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2 months ago
34 minutes

CZ and Friends
Legal as a Product: David Morris on IPOs, Global Expansion & Building High-Impact Teams
What does it look like when a general counsel reframes legal as a growth engine instead of a cost center? Today’s guest is David Morris, a seasoned GC who has led through IPOs, multi-billion-dollar SPAC transactions, and global market expansion. At TripAdvisor, David helped take the company public, opened new markets, including Cuba, and launched a government affairs function that won the license to sell travel into Cuba. Later, he built Vivid Seats’ legal team from scratch, guiding the compa...
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2 months ago
48 minutes

CZ and Friends
From Engineer to CAO: Diane Honda on AI, Trust, and Leading Change
What does going from writing code to leading legal, compliance, HR, and security at a high-growth tech company look like? In this episode, Diane Honda shares her journey from Carnegie Mellon software engineer to GC who took Barracuda Networks public, to her current role as Chief Administrative Officer at Redis. Along the way, she’s shaped how companies adopt AI, built legal teams into growth engines, and developed a leadership philosophy rooted in trust, adaptability, and action. Follow Dian...
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2 months ago
41 minutes

CZ and Friends
Turning Legal Into a Growth Engine: Chuck Kable on Strategy, Compliance & Change
What does it take for a GC to operate as a true executive leader—driving transformation across legal, compliance, and beyond? Today’s guest is Chuck Kable, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary at Innovative Renal Care, whose career includes transformative leadership roles at Axiom Medical, Emerus, and Cardon Outreach. Chuck has guided companies through high-value private equity transactions, built legal functions from scratch, and led turnarounds, including a $400M acquisition delivering ...
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2 months ago
47 minutes

CZ and Friends
Quantum & Law: Kaniah Konkoly-Thege on Quantum, Policy & Leadership
How do legal leaders navigate the complexities of emerging technologies like quantum computing while shaping public policy and guiding organizations through change? In this episode, Cecilia Ziniti sits down with Kaniah Konkoly-Thege, a legal expert whose journey spans from the Department of the Interior to cutting-edge work in quantum computing. Kaniah shares her experiences working on the historic Cobell case, navigating public policy, and bringing a business-first mindset to legal lea...
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2 months ago
40 minutes

CZ and Friends
Navigating Innovation & IP at Scale: Tina Patel on Building Legal at Amazon
How do you guide legal strategy for groundbreaking products like Alexa while managing risk and leading at scale? Today’s guest, Tina Patel, is a retired VP & Associate General Counsel at Amazon Lab126, where she oversaw legal strategy for products like Alexa and Kindle. She unpacks her journey from Big Law to in-house leadership at one of the world’s most innovative companies and shares lessons on smart risk-taking, building ecosystems around transformative products, and applying Am...
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3 months ago
36 minutes

CZ and Friends
Leading With Trust: Tricia Kinney on High-Performance Legal Teams at Scale
Today's guest is Tricia Kinney, a seasoned General Counsel and executive who’s led legal, compliance, and corporate affairs at some of the largest and most complex organizations in North America. Most recently the GC and Corporate Secretary at BlueLinx Corporation, Tricia has built and led teams across industries—from manufacturing to services—navigating M&A, enterprise risk, governance, and global operations. Her leadership experience includes time as Chief Legal & Compliance O...
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3 months ago
41 minutes

CZ and Friends
Think Like a Builder: Jeremy Siegel on Being the First Legal Hire Startups Actually Need
Today’s guest is Jeremy Siegel, a legal leader known for operating where things are messy—and making them work. Jeremy currently serves as General Counsel at Final Bell, a cannabis supply chain platform, and is the founder of Legal Mise, where he advises startups at the edge of innovation, including in AI, logistics, and CPG. Cecilia and Jeremy explore what it means to lead legal from inside the business, how to build trust fast as an early legal hire, and why the best lawyers today are also ...
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3 months ago
28 minutes

CZ and Friends
Built to Scale: Alice Davidson & Jenna Hunt on Evolving Legal at a Global Fintech
Cecilia sits down with Alice Davidson, General Counsel at Tipalti, and Jenna Hunt, Head of Legal Operations. Together, they’ve built and evolved a legal function that supports one of the fastest-scaling global fintech companies—operating across 200 countries, 120 currencies, and 50 payment methods. Alice brings a sharp securities and M&A background, previously serving as CLO at Mogo. Jenna blends legal ops with deep customer success and change management experience. Together, they’ve arch...
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3 months ago
45 minutes

CZ and Friends
High performance without ego - that’s the playbook at Verkada. General Counsel Bill Berry and Senior Counsel, Privacy & Policy Ariana Goodell join Cecilia Ziniti to share how they build a legal org people love to work with—one that ships products, earns trust, and stays close to the business. They get tactical on product launches, privacy-by-design, and how to “be in the boat” with engineering and marketing. They also break down AI’s real impact on in-house work: faster first drafts, sha...