Reality isn’t what you’ve been told.
Cosmosis is your portal to the edge of what we know—and what we don’t. Hosted by writer and researcher Kelly Chase (The UFO Rabbit Hole) and lifelong experiencer and filmmaker Jay Christopher King (The Experiencer Group), this podcast explores the mysteries of UFOs, non-human intelligence, consciousness, the paranormal, and the hidden architectures of reality.
We’re not here for manufactured narratives about UFO disclosure or sanitized intelligence community talking points. We’re after the real story—one that’s far stranger, far more beautiful, and far more transformative than we've ever been told.
Each episode brings you in-the-field conversations and deep-dive interviews with experiencers, researchers, scientists, and visionaries—people pushing the boundaries of what’s possible and reimagining what it means to be human.
If you’ve ever felt the signal beneath the noise… if you’re ready to question everything and follow that signal into the unknown—you’re in the right place.
This is Cosmosis.
Come with us.
Brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.
https://Cosmosis.Media
[This is also where you can find all the archives from The UFO Rabbit Hole podcast.]
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Reality isn’t what you’ve been told.
Cosmosis is your portal to the edge of what we know—and what we don’t. Hosted by writer and researcher Kelly Chase (The UFO Rabbit Hole) and lifelong experiencer and filmmaker Jay Christopher King (The Experiencer Group), this podcast explores the mysteries of UFOs, non-human intelligence, consciousness, the paranormal, and the hidden architectures of reality.
We’re not here for manufactured narratives about UFO disclosure or sanitized intelligence community talking points. We’re after the real story—one that’s far stranger, far more beautiful, and far more transformative than we've ever been told.
Each episode brings you in-the-field conversations and deep-dive interviews with experiencers, researchers, scientists, and visionaries—people pushing the boundaries of what’s possible and reimagining what it means to be human.
If you’ve ever felt the signal beneath the noise… if you’re ready to question everything and follow that signal into the unknown—you’re in the right place.
This is Cosmosis.
Come with us.
Brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.
https://Cosmosis.Media
[This is also where you can find all the archives from The UFO Rabbit Hole podcast.]
[The Great Dangerous Books Podcast] Jacques Vallée's 'Messengers of Deception' with Kelly Chase
Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]
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[The Great Dangerous Books Podcast] Jacques Vallée's 'Messengers of Deception' with Kelly Chase
Fan favorite, James Madden, has a brand new project with his brilliant co-host Jared Zimmerer called The Great Dangerous Books Podcast. Check out this episode to catch the vibe of the show, and if you like what you hear, be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.
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In this episode, Jim and Jared discuss the complexities of the UFO phenomenon with special guest Kelly Chase, focusing on Jacques Vallee's influential work 'Messengers of Deception.' They explore themes of manipulation, the unconscious, and the power of images in shaping belief systems. The conversation delves into the psychological impact of UFO experiences, the dangers of ontological shock, and the need for critical thinking in the field of ufology. Throughout, they emphasize the importance of self-awareness and the challenges of integrating extraordinary experiences into one's worldview.
TIMESTAMPS
01:28 Introducing Kelly Chase and Her Work
03:09 Exploring Jacques Vallee's 'Messengers of Deception'
05:17 Vallee's Perspective on UFOs and Manipulation
09:47 The Reliability of Jacques Vallee
12:05 The Nature of Reality and Ideological Structures
15:04 The Impact of Ontological Shock
18:45 The Role of the Unconscious in UFO Phenomena
22:08 The Dangers of Manipulation and Belief Systems
27:44 Connecting Modernity and Public Manipulation
32:56 The Internet's Oppenheimer: Valet's Perspective
35:32 The Power of Images and Human Manipulation
39:57 Gnosticism and the Quest for Knowledge
44:05 The Nature of UFO Phenomena and Human Belief
47:35 The Intersection of Science and Mythology
52:11 Critical Inquiry and the Nature of Belief
55:32 The Joy of Inquiry and the Dangers of Ufology
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Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]
Reality isn’t what you’ve been told.
Cosmosis is your portal to the edge of what we know—and what we don’t. Hosted by writer and researcher Kelly Chase (The UFO Rabbit Hole) and lifelong experiencer and filmmaker Jay Christopher King (The Experiencer Group), this podcast explores the mysteries of UFOs, non-human intelligence, consciousness, the paranormal, and the hidden architectures of reality.
We’re not here for manufactured narratives about UFO disclosure or sanitized intelligence community talking points. We’re after the real story—one that’s far stranger, far more beautiful, and far more transformative than we've ever been told.
Each episode brings you in-the-field conversations and deep-dive interviews with experiencers, researchers, scientists, and visionaries—people pushing the boundaries of what’s possible and reimagining what it means to be human.
If you’ve ever felt the signal beneath the noise… if you’re ready to question everything and follow that signal into the unknown—you’re in the right place.
This is Cosmosis.
Come with us.
Brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.
https://Cosmosis.Media
[This is also where you can find all the archives from The UFO Rabbit Hole podcast.]