In this episode of Conversations with Josh Andrew, I tackle one of the biggest problems in modern ministry—the loss of relational leadership. Somewhere along the way, church leadership became about polish, platforms, and production—and we forgot that Jesus led through presence, not distance.
I unpack eight principles of relational leadership that every pastor and church leader needs to rediscover. From walking among your people to leading with care instead of control, this episode is a reminder that you can’t graduate from being relational.
Whether you’re a pastor, creative, or ministry leader, this conversation will challenge how you think about influence, leadership, and what it truly means to shepherd people.
🕒 Episode Breakdown:00:00 – Introduction and Purpose00:43 – The Problem with Modern Church Leadership01:06 – The Importance of Being Relational02:17 – Eight Key Principles for Relational Leadership03:02 – You Can't Shepherd from a Stage04:59 – People Need Presence, Not Platforms07:08 – You're Not Too Busy, You've Just Drifted09:50 – Knowing Your Congregation Beyond Preaching11:06 – Control vs. Care in Leadership12:47 – Scaling Through Sending15:39 – Building Disciples, Not Just Systems17:45 – The Kingdom is Carried on Shoulders, Not Spreadsheets18:57 – Conclusion and Recap
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🎧 Listen if you want to:
Lead your church with authenticity
Build trust and culture in ministry
Reconnect with your people beyond the pulpit
Move from transactional to transformational leadership
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